Why does everyone hate it?

Why do people hate on ER’s DLC so damn much? Literally every criticism I hear about it rings true about base Elden Ring as well.
It improves everything that was good in the base game, the world is much more compact and less of a chore to go through. I felt actually attached to the characters whereas in base ER I didn’t give a shit about them. I was infinitely more exited exploring the realm of shadow than the lands between. The only issue I have is the bosses. They’re fucking shit. Undoubtedly worst in the entire souls series’ of games.
I just recently played it months after the original release, and I know it’s been updated since it dropped so perhaps my experience is different.

Bust most people liked it

It has glaring flaws, but I definitely don't hate it. Seemed like it was very rushed.

I've literally never heard anybody outside of Anon Babble bitching about it. And Anon Babble bitching about something is just its neutral state.

idk, didnt play it, not sure ill ever recover from souls fatigue after beating elden ring twice

it was too massive around the end for it's own sake which lead to the exploration around the giant finger areas, Coast, and the ruins to all be underwhelming. As much as I love how all the areas look the enemy variety and items were lacking

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All the niggas in this DLC feel like tranny self inserts.

Have you considered not being terminally addicted to the internet

kill yourself

I play games every day, all day. SOTE sets off my nigger radar.

It had some 9/10 areas but then some 3/10 areas. I can't pretend to like everything about a DLC like that.

It filtered shitter retards even harder than the base game already did, so the pushback was inevitable

Have you considered not being terminally addicted to the internet

Elden Slop will not get my vote, ever.

Shazam lost.

I liked most of it. It's a condensed version of the base game down to the new leveling system that's specific to the zone itself. It does however have some problems in that difficulty spikes are often and you won't realize you aren't supposed to be fighting a thing yet until you've wasted like an hour doing so. Plus I get the feeling a lot of the difficulty is the fake kind where the developers made the new bosses have attacks that counter specific player behaviors or have new attack chains meant to waste as much of your stamina as possible, as quickly as possible. I'd still rank it a 7 or 8, but the parts I don't like are still shit and like a few particular fights from the base game, I'm not going back to do them again after the first time.

I don't hate it but your post hits the nail on the head in the second sentence. The DLC is pretty much just more end game Elden Ring, including all the flaws that come with that.

bosses bad

you play like this

too many annoying enemies

too many recycled dragons

no likable characters except for the harpoon dude (leda having sexy armor doesn't count)

characters all get miyazaki'd anyway, making them even more of a letdown than the base game's cast

all new equipment is boring

boss fights sucked except for the boar dude

new leveling system was retarded

furnace heads

It was just bad.

ﷲBecause we’re tired of roll slop

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nice discord formatting, btw

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the dlc is blatantly rushed and unfinished
the final boss has zero dialogue, the scadutree curtains never raise, etc. Only the main path is fleshed out. If you go from the beginning to belurat, then ensis, shadow keep, rauh, enir ilem, then the game feels really good and fully complete. But as soon as you go to the southern half of the map, it's cerulean coast, charo's hidden grave, the finger ruins, jagged peak, abyssal woods, and they're mostly empty areas with endless reused enemies. The difference in quality is insane, half these areas are just vistas to ride your horse through. And then you have the areas around castle black like the big thing under the tree that isn't actually under the tree, which you can't even go into. Another finger ruins with nothing in it. Another area that's just lore and two erdtree sentinels. It feels like about 60% of the game is empty

the final boss has zero dialogue

It has 2 cutscenes, stupid retard

the scadutree curtains never raise

They do

Mohg's top guy was also pretty based

made radahn get buck broken by miquella who goes from a tragic wholesome character to mega evil rape twink

bosses have 5,000,000 HP and tekken combo strings so it feels like you're waiting 5 minutes to attack once unless you've already beaten them and know the strings

it's some sealed off shithole basically only available at the near end of the base game

It sucked

>furnace heads

I thought Anon Babble wanted gimmick bosses??

Thats literally all true for basegame Elden Ring why are you only aware of it for the DLC

this you ?

yeah but Anon Babble's retarded

people were also pretty critical of elden ring's unfinished areas

Nah, I know when to charge my heavies.

There's nothing unfinished about either
Anon Babble wanted le shadow of the colossues empty corridor world to quests and the DLC is exactly that. It concentrates most content across a large area and adds 4 more quest areas. Now people don't like this and would have preferred if every dungeon had a final boss and the cintent spread evenly.
Shows you can't take any criticism easily, and most of it comes from Elden Ring late game filtering retards who can't play

Post gameplay

Some of the areas were kinda empty and the last boss is to hard were the only complaints I heard. People complaining about scadu fragments just can't be bothered to read something, and people who won't read shouldnt play souls games.

dlc was great all the trannies didn't want to explore in the new action rpg exploring game and they got filtered.
used spells summons melee weapons bows melee spells imagine playing dark souls game and not using the things they give you

why are you posting screenshots of your own posts at me
nobody asked for empty areas

You may summon me as a cooperator. I'll help you.

Nice cope retard.

summon your own gameplay, faggot

boring le ride horse across giant fields for the nth time
copy pasted enemies even from the fucking base game
peak rollslop 6 times in a row to squeeze in a single hit on boss
dogshit NPC questlines again(teleport like 5 fucking times to exhaust dialogue between the redmane girl and blood guy in the storehouse area)

the areas are visually pretty, that's literally it

I keep files on the ready to practice bosses, so I can help little niggers like you reach the end.

Only trans wierdos play soulsborne or anything Fromsoft. The rest of the sane individuals picked up older WRPGs like Gothic or Mass Effect and not waste time reading text messages about some gloom and doom nihilistic world that will cuck you in the end.

I keep files on the ready to practice bosses

So recording yourself fighting Dancing Beast will certainly be easy

I'm placing my summon sign don't make me wait.

I just hope Fromsoft's next game gets banned from US under Trump. Fuck their satanic garbage.

Has Troons

No thanks

you can use webm for lazys to convert, it's very easy, u're welcome

SUMMON ME NOW.

Still refuses to put money where its mouth is and post gameplay

lol

He doesn't play games.

Literally every criticism I hear about it rings true about base Elden Ring as well.

Yes, SoTE helped people realise that the only bought and played Elden Ring out of habit or because they had become blind fanboys. It was a sobering disaster of a DLC and based on what I've read here I'm not the only one who's done with Fromsoft.

if anything the burnout the dlc caused for me extended to the entire base game. i think the dlc might be better than the base game, but that puts it at a 7/10

I play games, I don't need gameplay.

Plus I get the feeling a lot of the difficulty is the fake kind where the developers made the new bosses have attacks that counter specific player behaviors or have new attack chains meant to waste as much of your stamina as possible, as quickly as possible.

that's been the go to design since ds3

Still too much of a pussy coward to post gameplay

lmao

dlc ending is just 30 seconds of miquella sitting on a chair

why is fromsoft too retarded to provide real endings? remember when everyone made fun of mass effect 3 for its endings but the elden lord endings are also all the same

open slop world gets more slop

"why the hate?"

How about some quality over quantity shit?

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It was the sloppiest slop of slops since the creation of AI art. Even the music was devoid of creativity and relied heavily on AI. I wish Fromsoft would have worked more on their games than rush them out as broken and empty pieces of shits that they always are. If they continue this way then bankruptcy is all that I hope they get to learn their lesson.

Tranny seethe: DETECTED.

le color ending

Kill yourself lying retard

Started ranting about trannies

Clear sign of defeat, I accept your concession, shitter

Concession: ACCEPTED.

no story

lore was awful

characters are too one dimensional

no memorable quests

copy pasted enemies and boss fights

retconned the lore into the worst gayest slop imaginable

npc fights sucked and npcs are nobodies

they haven't fixed npcs for years

same slow system of player character used

endings are meaningless and useless

I swear only idiots play this slop.

Literally won't play the game

He's made you look a right twat

You know a game is damn good when there's dedicated no lifer shiposters seething about it for 3 years straight. No game received this much effort and strong emotions.

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he is now samefagging

Sad!

This thing is good if people call it bad

Flawless logic Paco

He can't differentiate anonymous posters.

to 3 more years of seething, cheers brownoid

Cope harder by posting other people's webms, you don't even own this game

Garbage game for idiots.

You are mentally ill

Yeah
If Elden Ring wasn't excellent, the noncessnt shitposting with seething and vitriolic hatred wouldn't be necessary
This electronic video game literally dominated your life for several years straight

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You are mentally ill

He says after the #726382382628 "OH MY FUCKING GOD I HATE ELDEN RING REEE" thread of the day (it's early in the morning)

Lol

Dedicated and obssessed shitposter calling anyone mentally ill
zero self awareness

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Healing in boss fights is fundamentally broken, because bosses do shit on the level of sekiroborne 5 while we heal like Jonny the dark souls. Not only healing is dogshit because you can’t get a heal off outside of posture break (a good mechanic but don’t force me to posture break if I want to get a heal off) or very few ‘slow’ attacks, it makes learning a boss a fucking unfun chore because nigga I can’t extend my run by heals since boss mad dash, gap closed ranged punished ass raped extension number 69 my shit up (seeing it for the first time). This happened because for some funny reason from decided to balance the DLC around dem brain dead “insta kill boss in 1 hit” builds so everything is hyper aggressive to have a fighting chance (and the moment anyone with a smidge of brain uses even some of the op shit the boss fight is over in few moments). Final boss is also hyper shit, not only gameplay wise but lore wise, a fucking gank fight before him is both more fun and more epic. Too many places are just fucking empty, there is an entire side area in abyssal forest that you can explore for…jack shit! Some other bosses are straight out ds2 level of dogshit garbage like hippo and a boar fag (epic hitboxes from).

It’s a letdown because DLC has many great things, weapons are fucking amazing milady alone was keeping me interested. Neegro keep is probably one of the best legacy dungeons from made in a while and npc interactions are cool (and Ansbach is a bro). It could have been the best DLC from has ever made, but they fucking rushed it, didn’t fully think it’s through and even with zanzibard mamays what the actual fuck is this story line. I fucking hope next time from will actually finish whatever the fuck they are working on while having a a deep look into souls baseline combat.

If Elden Ring wasn't excellent, the noncessnt shitposting with seething and vitriolic hatred wouldn't be necessary

Again, flawless logic Paco

Flawless logic Paco

Why do people hate on ER’s DLC so damn much?

Low IQ
Low T

As someone with hundreds of hours in ER, for some reason the dlc just turned me off completely.
I can't even put it into words but I never even bothered to finish sote. I think the closed off nature of the zones and somewhat railroaded path of the zones went completely opposite to how the base game worked and turned me off.
It's like ER is an open world game and sote is a dark souls game with excessivly large zones, which are two very different things.

Almost forgot, skibidi fragments would be a nice system addition if they fucking bothered to balance it around bosses rewarding most of them instead of finding shit in a half empty field in a middle of nowhere and gave more defence than damage because it wasn’t hard to fucking overskibidi yourself and now you unga bunga melt shit (I rolled save back from back up).

A whole bunch of areas with nothing in them
A colour palette of exclusively brown and grey
Exploring actively punishes the player
Nonsensical story
Bosses have DBZ powers

As someone with hundreds of hours in ER

post playtime

still samefagging

sad

It's literally just PCTroons crying that it's too hard or complaining about all the stutter
It's an overwhelming success on ChadStation and the 10 people who own an Xbox

stop listening to Anon Babble

Since Bloodborne
Really since Artorias but it was still manageable then since anime combo shit was only possible for 2 bosses

I enjoyed it up until the forced stealth section. That killed my enjoyment, and then I just rushed to kill the final boss to get it over with.

IP counter removal was a disgrace. This faggot literally has no life beyond seething about Fromsoftware lol
Shameless minute per minute posting in the same exact style and saying the same things or quoting the same posters

I guess it would be a success when there are no other games to play

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I've never seen this much cope before.

Flawless logic Paco

Every post in this thread is me

This

This company is a cult run by a complete idiot who doesn't know what he is doing for the past two decades.

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Back to samefagging?
Switched to mobile, kek

Is it seriously that hard to believe that people are just tired of shitty boss design where every boss has 8 hit combos and delay attacks that slap the fucking shit out of you unless you dodge at exactly the right time which you can't possibly know the first fight?
I like Elden Ring but the DLC was the worst of Elden Ring, basically a boss fight mode where every boss was made to shit on minimax Youtube epic build retards, to the detriment of all normal players. Then le epik one shot Youtubers just made new gay retard builds anyway within 24 hours so they shitted up their DLC for nothing.

I liked it a lot, though I overhyped it. Not my favorite expansion they've done, though it does improve on the base game quite a bit with all the new weapons, buffs, armor, etc.
The only boss I didn't like is Metyr, which is alongside Fortissax for my two D-tier fights in the game. The presentation for both of these fights is pretty good though. Radahn was hard but I don't know what people were expecting, though I don't like how you fight him. Against Rellana, Messmer, Gaius, etc. you could jump and strafe a ton of attacks but that's much more limited against Radahn. I don't think someone's done a no-roll hitless run of Radahn excluding oneshot builds, though I haven't looked in a while. The boss designs are great and the music is surprisingly good as well, though some could've used more build-up like Rellana and Romina. The latter is a pretty important character in the grand scheme of things, too.
As for the map, it's more beautiful than the lands between but it's on par with it content wise though I like how vertical it is. Also, I liked the mini dungeons a lot more this time around. In fact, I think they were more fun than the new legacy dungeons.
The characters are fantastic, would be the best they've made if AC6 didn't come out. The lore I'm sort of mixed on but after examining it all, it works well and only 10% of it was stuff I didn't really care for like the finger ruins.

filtered

Why do people hate on ER’s DLC so damn much?

lack of skill

The base game and dlc have the trans agenda that is pushed in DEI sloppa like this. Ugly women shouldn't be allowed in vidya.

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It's not hard to believe that there's trash players that don't know how to play.

Anon that woman is literally rotting. Did you want her to have massive motherly rotting J-cups lactating maggots?

In DS1 the anime combos were limited to those tainted by the abyss which was pretty cool.
Four Kings didn't have much but they could gank you if you uhhhh did it wrong idk how you'd get ganked by them but if they did that's basically an anime combo.

I beat the DLC RL1. You just suck

he didn't pick up on Boc being trans-coded and the whole point of his quest being a lesson that you're fine the way you are and shouldn't try to become something you're not

healing complaining

People really are mindless monkeys

"""pro"""tip, the time you could use to land a hit on the boss is about the same time you use to heal, when in low health, instead of taking an opening, take a sip.

The part of her titties that haven’t rotted away, yes obviously.
Also the much larger problem is her overall bone structure is not feminine. Her head is too small and her shoulders are too large, I’m not doing the math but she looks too heroic which is not what women are supposed to look like ever.

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Malenia nuked Caelid because Radahn wouldn't fuck her brother

Miquella did everything because he wanted to bang his brother

No Godwyn or Eclipse stuff

No impact on the base game

Messmer not in it enough

No cutscenes for some of the bosses

Scadutree fragments are easily missable and a really stupid mechanic

Enemies are over-tuned

I did like the Marika lore, Bale, and Mogh stuff

Elden Ring did some legendary filtering, the seethe it caused among lower IQ individuals was incredible. No wonder youtube essayists got hardwalled in the DLC

Stop taking Vaatividya lore, retard
The Battle of Aeonia created a Crucible.

in retrospect my thoughts of the DLC are "loved it everything about it besides the shitty bosses and scadu fragments."

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Am I playing Elden Ring wrong? I find it WAY, WAY harder than DS1-3, in the mod to late game. I played DS1-3 with a classic straight sword and medium shield build, but I can't seem to bear ER with it. Enemies have too much HP and deal massive damage. I have never once minmaxed in a Souls game, but I feel like I have to in ER.

using the biggest pushover in the game as your example

Not helping your case. Morgott is 2 is arguably easier than The Omen. The fucking dragonic sentinel to reach him is harder.

Entire game is just multiple Mountaintops of Giants, lots of empty space for no reason.

Cool areas are hidden and not very obvious how to reach without a guide. Way easier to get lost and not know where to go in the DLC than base game.

Scadutree Fragment collectathon is lame and kills replayability of the DLC.

Bosses are hyper aggressive and attack non stop, already a problem in vanilla ER but way worse in the DLC.

Final boss is lame and ending is anticlimactic.

he is samefagging again

kek

You are expected to use broken weapon arts. Game is either way too easy or way too hard based on this one thing

I find it WAY, WAY harder than DS1-3, in the mod to late game

It is if you don't use many tools available such as buffs, weapon arts, infusions, even throwables. Though they buffed medium shields a ton recently so your build should work, are you using guard counters?

I ultimately enjoyed it, but I'm worried about where From can go from here without reworking the player side of the combat equation

There's no need to rework anything. You can literally do loops around the DLC bosses if you don't suck massive ass and the movement is designed to punish rollspammers. Fuck you and your parry spam and canceling bullshit

Square Off and Impaling Thrust have been godsends, yeah.

Not as much as I should, need to git gud at the timing. I'm terrible at parrying too, but guard counters seem easier to do.

From has been catering more and more to the very loud minority of “I must exploit every possible advantage and the game must still be hard” players who literally cannot just NOT use an overturned weapon or spell since the first patch of DaS2. The average player has also gotten a lot better in general so the baseline needed to be raised.
Tldr yes, stop using a shitty weapon. I’ll bet you aren’t using spirit ashes or weapon arts regularly either, but the game is balanced around you doing so.

game is balanced around spirit ashes

lol

exploring empty areas

complaining about trannies while shilling for Elden Ring, the most pozzed game From has ever produced

I'm terrible at parrying too, but guard counters seem easier to do.

They are and they're very good. Pay attention to combo openings or enders and use them there. Also don't just block everything, you can roll or strafe some stuff to prevent stamina loss from blocking.
Also what shield are you using? You should upgrade it, I'm not joking upgrading the shield makes the boost get boosted and that's a game changer especially since they buffed them.

Shadow of the turd tree was SHIT, it was so bad it almost ruined the great memories I had of the base game. Fuck Miyahacki and FUCK the B team

There's like 1 or 2 annoying faggots in all of these ER threads that say the most braindead, intellectually dishonest shit.
2 examples. They type like a smug dumbass. Saying retarded shit while calling everyone else stupid
The cat poster often appears to support the retardation. It's probably just that one faggot who accuses everyone else of being a samefag.

I once called them tumblr trannies and they started seething

What the fuck is a crucible

It improves everything that was good in the base game

it goes both ways
the DLC takes everything terrible about the base game and takes it further
and the bad was REALLY bad already

Rauh was nice. Couple of nice boss tracks. Rest felt half baked. Like Radahn... Seriously?

I enjoyed it up until the forced stealth section.

The what? Are you talking about the madness forest?
You never needed to stealth.

spoiler

you learn that from a note after the fact or if you're lucky enough to get good message rng.

and somewhat railroaded path of the zones

The DLC has an extremely open design though. It's not railroaded in the slightest.
There are a couple of progression gates, but everything in-between is super open ended.

not yet finished with the base game, just got to the haligtree, but tried the dlc a bit and it's def tougher
that fucking faggot knight in the mauselium killed me more than any boss in the base game so far
also mohg's spear is insanely OP holy shit
was running a parry/stagger/crit build with executioner's greataxe before this
also the performance in the dlc is shit, fps drops to 70s sometimes on a 4090 at 1440p
the world does feel more fun to explore for some reason and the weapons that are dropping are fucking sick
the black steel greathammer looks fucking badass and with occult infusion get A scaling for arcane so it has the same attack power as mohgs for me, and i don't even have the required INT

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DLC has an extremely open design though. It's not railroaded in the slightest.

Yeah except when you explore too much and it instantly breaks all the quests with no warning

also the performance in the dlc is shit, fps drops to 70s sometimes on a 4090 at 1440p

Wait, you can run this game at more than 60?

there's a mod to unlock framerate and increase fov
i also disabled rune loss on death and i don't give a fuck i'm having fun

It's a mod, you have to play offline

It became a parody of itself. I enjoyed it enough but I dread the future of souls games if they continue on the same path and become even bigger of a meme

the black steel greathammer looks fucking badass and with occult infusion get A scaling for arcane so it has the same attack power as mohgs for me

It gets bonus holy when used with the sacred infusion. Holy damage is good in the dlc, too. Some bosses are actually weaker to holy than the other elements.

i'm really liking arcane atm, I got a big collosal club that does bleed that seems cool and hear there's an arcane greatspear in the dlc that i should be able to powerstance with mohgs but might respec to a str/fth build at some point maybe after beating the main game becuase it seems like most the cool weapons i'm finding are str/fth in the dlc like that big ass anvil hammer