Your Chao reincarnated... RIGHT, anon?
Chao Garden Thread
No, it died. Because I drowned it.
It's cozy time.
A finook in his own garden. Fucking nauseating.
Reminder
Main game
Better on Dreamcast
Chao Garden
Better on SADX/SA2B
Modded PC is the best of both worlds
Modded PC is the best of both worlds
PC is SADX/SA2B port. SA2 still has issues
The cool stencil shadows from the Dreamcast version are gone and have been replaced by more standard framebuffer shadows. Honestly, it's for the best. The DC shadows were impressive for self-shadowing, but due to processing power limitations, devs were limited on the amount of polys they could use for them. So they didn't give the stencil shadows any joints, and frankly it looks weird when characters are in motion with floating Rayman-limb shadows.
SA2B's framebuffer shadows have a couple of issues. EFB shadows are only cast by playable characters and by destroyed cars while they're physics-ing around. Because of this, a lot of models no longer cast shadows, such as all enemies and all non-destroyed cars (cars only cast EFB shadows once you start knocking them around. I have no idea why.)
EFB shadows don't cast on some objects (e.g. boxes) and some surfaces (too many scattered examples to remember).
Pulleys are now an ugly fullbright color and they no longer flash. (Who cares lol). This is caused by that same tinting issue I mentioned earlier; plenty of miscellaneous objects are affected too.
SA2 DC abused the Dreamcast's volumetric fog features for some interesting effects, like security alarms (Iron Gate, Flying Dog, Egg Quarters) and approximated "rain waves" (White Jungle). These effects are gone in SA2B, replaced with full-screen overlays (Flying Dog, Egg Quarters) or with a rotating vertex light (Iron Gate). It could be time constraints, or it could be that the GameCube doesn't have equivalent rendering features that would allow it to do striped fog.
SA2B has transparency issues just like SADX, though differences are subtle. Only example I can remember atm is that water splashes are partially covered by the water's surface
yossh
don't worry buddy
I've 100%'d SA2 so many times I can't even count. I want to get straight to Chao raising and sharing content with y'all but I can't be fucked to get all the emblems again. Should I just download a 100% save file and start a fresh garden from there? Or will that take away from the magic?
every single BLK
Hypothetically let's say there was a new Chao garden with every reasonably important character from SA1 to the most recent game playable. Who would be your main Chao world character?
Or will that take away from the magic?
It will. Do it legit.
Why hasn't anyone made something to capture the feeling of raising chao? Any time I've tried to find a good alternative I get pointed towards Poglings, but it looks ugly and soulless and isn't out. The chao garden came out like 20 years ago, there has to be something else that already exists... Other than just playing a modded 45 year old game
It would still be Tikal
because limitations bred creativity, today shit can do whatever you like. I am unironically convinced that old games have more "soul" because they had to cut corners, rather than chose to, and we accepted it because we knew it had to be done.
That and you were ten.
"....The fuck you lookin' at, nigga?"
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Probably because while anyone could make the Chao formula for evolutions stats and alignments the problem is you have to make a creature people will love. Which is very hard to do. The Chao were a happy accident by Sega and that is how most beloved fictional creatures happen if you try too hard you'll just end up with something that feels soulless.
Stop pretending that this isn't exactly what everyone here wants. This is FUCKING SOUL
W-what?
Looks like shit. The animals aren't cute. They're like some horrible Dreamworks AI generated abominations
That shit is hideous.
I can't even explain what part of this disgusts me. But something about it makes me itchy all over. I hate it with my whole ass
These look like chaos that were fluffified.
Remember Fluffies? Now you do.
He's a puppet of the deep kindergarten. You have no clue how deep this goes.
Chao are brilliant in their simplicity. These overdesigned shits are just trying too hard.
This is repulsive and gives me the vibes of a kids show that pushes LGBT propaganda on children.
Reminder to thank her
The egg with the yellow swirls looks like something out of Billy Hatcher.
That is the only compliment I can think of.
you're all still going to buy it. fuck off.
Miss me with that Cocolemon gay ass shit designs.
No. No actually, I'm not.
No.
They fucking look like MLP characters dude I could make a better chao alternative in MSpaint
Ummm, no. I'm not buying that slop.
Thank you Sachiko Kawamura
THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME FUCKING FACE WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION
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OH BECAUSE CHAO ARE SO WELL KNOWN FOR THEIR DIVERSE FUCKING FACIAL FEATURES????
It begins
Why isn't there a modern chao garden game/gacha/side-game/anything?
Is there any mod that lets you play online or anything like that? I want to visit other peoples chao gardens and have our chao hang out
shows a screenshot that doesn't show any of the dozens of different mouth and eye types
nice cherrypicking faggot
still no official way to play as Cream and Tikal in the chao gardens
literally the oy characters who are directly linked to chao
we JUST did this
Sega doesn't have the money to do a live service game right now. Give them a couple more hits and we can talk about it.
BASED are you this guy?
You're purposely being disingenuous.
Just play the game for old times sake, it's still fun after all these years.
Every one of those has the same face.
I'll torrent it once the modders swap those ugly things out for chao
He has frieza ears.
Sadly Chao islands uses default mouth/eyes, but their heads are wildly different. And dark Chao might not be the best example because of the dark Chao eyes.
playing as Sonic in the Chao Garden
Psychopath behavior.
lose the nose and you've got a cute lil feller.
frieza ears
that's genius
love me some chao eugenics
this took almost 15 hours
This is equivalent to having the same Chao evolution with only animal parts to distinguish them. Horrendous.
I understand the point you're trying to make, but it would be better proven with actual Chao expressions.
still no good fluff sim game
Yes.
Yeah, I am. Except I'm going all out with a ridiculous amount of mods, texture and model replacements, on top of all the Chao stuffs. I'm giving the Full Story mod a try just to experience the story mode in a new way. It's pretty neat so far, though I don't agree with City Escape happening immediately after Iron Gate. I always assumed City Escape happened after Radical Highway in the story.
Now feed it one of those hyper fruits (or whatever they're called) so you can get your one X stat. I recommend running since it's by far the most important stat.
Sadly Chao islands our main source of Chao stuff lacks pictures of that for some reason.
chao-island.com
They have Xs where they planned to put the pictures of them, but they either never did upload them or they were lost to time.
eggman just so I can watch his legs flail every which way when I run in circles around the lobby staircases
You would think Chadtronic would make sure that the designs were pretty diverse, because Chao being the base and changing into widely different designs was the appeal. Why's it that the gamers who have the budget to do things are also usually the same ones who don't understand why gamers like things?
im a vanilla bozo outside of aesthetic tweaks but chao world extended does look fun, i might download it
SOUL = using 120% of an old engine, using every trick in the book. a single developer might handle the music, graphics and story all at once, learning the latter two on the fly as he goes
SOULLESS = letting a new-age engine use 30% of its capabilities to layout your game for you, outsource your important assets overseas, and call it a day
content mods for chao are all well and good, but are there any content mods for the regular game besides randomizers/"play as any character in any level"?
it feels kinda shitty that the chao garden stuff is so extensive but the main game doesn't have enough shit in it to do much more than just replaying one of the short stages over and over to get drives/animals/rings.
There are tons of custom stages, gameplay overhauls, and other tweaks that you can look through on gamebanana.
like 95% of them are just retextures with the remaining 5% being minor fixes
only interesting mod i saw was super hard mode, but that mod is "still in development" but hasn't been updated in a year
If you could have one Chao as a real pet which Chao would you pick?
I had all 3 immortal chaos chao but there's no goddamn way in hell I'm going through all that work again just for screencaps.
so if Chaos is a mutated neutral chaos Chao that awakened it's ancient alien DNA. What do you think the lore and potential of the other two chaos Chao are?
Don't bring wisp shit into this.
I'll be honest I just found the image on Google while looking for one with the three chaos chao and liked the idea of the dark chaos Chao being related to the black arms I don't give a ship about the wisps.