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Together we stand!

I really wish that we didn't, but she's the only Paladin in the group...

Why can I "I don't like you, die!" every party member in the game upon first meeting them but her and the paladin?

But you can't do that with Camellia and the mongrels, aka the prologue characters

I killed her with no issues whatsoever when she got uppity after rescuing the traitor in that cave thoughbeit

I wish they made her conflict of wanting to be the friendly neighborHOOD knight with the fact that she's supposed to be a lawful good paladin more apparent.
I get that that's what her quest is about, but the writing could have been better.
Still, I don't hate her as far as companions go.

You can't do it to any of the prologue characters or Woljif. You only start to get that option once you meet Ember.
In fact, I'm not sure you get it for Daeran either, I'd have to check, because you meet him in the middle of his party and I'm not sure you're allowed to attack him there.

I think it all just comes down to whether her trusting Curl and Jannah was a mistake or not. Do you console her because even if something good deeds don't turn out well, it's still worth to keep trying and always believe the best in everyone? Or do you tell her to toughen up and assume there are some people who are just untrustworthy? It's actually kind of the dilemma for most of the companion quests, just applied to different kinds of relationship, Seelah applies it to some friends she made recently, Ember applies it to strangers and even demons, Arueshalae applies it to herself, Sosiel applies it to his brother, Daeran applies it to people he doesn't trust in (Liotr), etc.

It's actually kind of the dilemma for most of the companion quests, just applied to different kinds of relationship

You know, now that you are pointing that out it seems kind of obvious, but I hadn't realized that before.
Interesting.
Maybe I should stop thinking about builds and pay more attention to the game.

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This game has too many fucking classes and archetypes. Half of these shits are unnecessary and some don't even have their own unique identity, constantly overlapping with each other

Is there a fast way to change the portraits of the followers? the portrait art in this game suck ass and I figured out how to fix the mainchar portrait but cant find a way to fix the others

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Toybox

There is a wokeless wrath mod.

”I guess I would be hungry…”

Aaracokra

This is fine.

Aasimar

This is fine.

Catfolk

This is fine.

Devas

This is fine.

Dragonborn

This is fine.

Drow

This is fine.

Elves

This is fine.

Halflings

This is fine.

Kinder

This is fine.

Orcs

This is fine.

Tieflings

This is fine.

Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity

This is fine.

brown people and pronouns

NNNOOO MY HECKIN IMMERSION STRAIGHT WHITE MEN ARE OPPRESSED NNNOOO

tsmt

cursed item

lol, lmao

I kind of feel bad for Seelah back she is, how to put it, very tame and vanilla compared to what you got with the others.
I kind of wish she was in a different kind of adventure where her unique twists would shine better with tamer companions.
I assume the intent with her was to have at least SOME normalcy in the party with a small twist. I like the Camelia version of this where as crazy shit is brewing under that normalcy.

Catfolk

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YOU'RE RACISTS!

outside of maybe 2 all companions in that game are unlikable faggots, its a big issue i have with wotr

play in turn based mode

"nO rEaSoN tO pAuSe"

I'm so glad I'm playing dragon age origins instead of this shit.

I feel like black skin on white armour could look excellent, in the same way white hair works on black skinned characters, but they always make the nig look goofy

Yes, being trapped in a form you don't desire is a curse.

That feeling you're describing is precisely why she was in WotR. Seelah's entire deal is that she's the perfect paladin, but for a life of adventure and travelling. Her banking on the good in everyone, always giving second chances, prefering to relax and let people be merry, and advocating more for being generally decent than some stick up the ass model citizien, are all traits that make her completely ideal for an adventuring scenario. It makes common people trust her more. Her issue is that it's not the scenario she's seen herself thrown into, she's in a war, and a particularly gruesome one where the enemy is also specialized in manipulation and deceit. She's in a situation where relaxing and being permissive is possibly the worst thing she can do, because she'll find demons taking the chance to stab her in the back before she finds people grateful enough to help her back.

If she had been in, say, Kingmaker, or some other adventure path, she'd have been too perfect of a character. And in WotR the writing problem she already has is that if you play thing right, there's no actual reason why she'd face that dilemma at all, since everything turns out completely right no matter how many second chances she wants to give out and how friendly she wants to be. The part at the end where you tell her to toughen up only makes sense if shit went wrong, and also if you yourself aren't one of the chaotic mythic paths in which case there are good chances you're doing the same as her but more.

Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity

Who wears this shit?
Its just like the coffin in DS 2.

Funny how Ember drives her crazy

always stealing other people's culture and history so they don't have to own up to their own

Fucking pathetic.

She's an iconic, they're very limited in what they can do with her: can't romance her, can't change her personality and can't romance her
Same as Amiri, basically, except for the fact that Barbarians are inherently more interesting and unpredictable than Paladins

Redemption is a big theme in the game, even tho it's never really explicitly stated
The relationship between one's nature and their upbringing/values, combined with some unexpected external influences (mythic powers, scientific progress, meme crystals) is the predominant struggle that ties almost every storyline together
Neat shit yo

People who run into their first magical item on the first map of the game without knowing that they should identify shit first

cursed item

gets beheaded for using it

can't change her personality

Did you even do her questline?

I did, twice
The outcomes aren't nearly as drastic as Daeran's or Arue's, they're mid-tier at best

Daeran stays the same regardless, the only difference is that you make friends with him
Seelah can change her entire outlook on how being a paladin works

as Daeran's

Well yea because I turned him into exploding meat chunks with 1 crit.
Like he asked me to. It was assisted suicide

Seelah was totally fine what‘s everybody mad about

There are support groups for your condition at the local asylum

*sucks air through teeth*

She keeps yelling at my retarded daughterwife Ember

Is she actually a bad character or are people just freaking out over a nigger main character?

s-she's.... b-b-b-b-BLACK!

She's pretty good, there's nothing wrong with her. Not the most interesting character though, as was said higher in the thread, her deal is being "the normal one" (together with Sosiel) in a party full of total wierdos.

see
Also she starts drinking like a nigger in the middle of a military march and publicly disresepects your 2nd in command who calls her out on it which is bad for any military.

She's a fantasy african who joined the crusade from her wakanda homeland, don't get what's the fuss. Sosiel and the troon couple are another story

Sosiel is even more inoffensive than Seelah

Ember would be a total retard if the world didn‘t bend over to accomodate her
I do love how she invalidates arue‘s redemption though that‘s pretty funny

Sosiel was too zesty for me and turned me the fuck off. I don't mind homo niggas too much damn he just has this air to him that makes me sneer with disgust AND this is coming from a dude who on accident romanced fucking Daeran and stuck through it.

Sosiel doesn't come from fantasy africa, he is a random metropolitan gay guy

You're wrong on both counts

Yeah he comes from fantasy America instead, complete with it being a multicultural paradise unlike the real thing

Sosiel

He's from Andoran, which is closer to where Seelah comes from than of Mendev.
And you need to go through 5 acts, select the option to be pushy with Anevia like 3 times in each one and pass a persuasion skill check of 50 to get Anevia to say she's trans. It's literally fucking easier to convince demons to turn good than it is to make Anevia explain she was a dude and changed sex to slam clams with Irabeth.

That said shes not really a bad character overall. Unlike the autistic fox
I used Regil, Lann, Daeran, Ember, and her for the most part. Had to kill Daeran though and get a merc to replace him.

Nigs in western fantasy settings will never not be comical

If you never start a romance with Sosiel then you're never going to find out that he's a fag until the very end of the game when one of the ending slides reveals he got married to a man

But enough about white people.

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not that anon but Sosiel was obviously a fag from the getgo

Mission: The Bell Tolls

fail check

reload

fail check

Reload

Why is the game designed like this?
When twitch brotherman was playing this he was reloading the game every 20 seconds because he was failing something constantly

anon unless you are either deaf or very dense it is very fucking obvious that he is a very homosexual man and if you wish to cope bisexual.
Praise to the people who has done the voice work and directing for letting you immediately get a profile read on the characters just from their talking mannerisms and tone.

i like seelah
she is pretty cool

faggots here will try to convince you that pathfinder is european medieval fantasy, even though that's not the case at all
it's just Anon Babble brainrot, as always

what traitor

plays a dice toss game

"why do I not win every dice toss"

terminal retardation

jannies are trannies lel niggers smell

The word he's looking for is deserter, and he means the Aldori friend Seelah has

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Man I just can't get myself to include Ember in my parties at all. I just think that putting a person who has the mental development of a child in battle just plain wrong and makes me mad. I DO her quests and such but I kind of feel bad for missing out on her banter on things because of it.

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Uh oh, jannoid got upset at all the evil Anons using the nigger word

I like Ember too much to not bring her with me everywhere, but it does feel kinda irresponsible. I justify it with her often being easily the strongest member of my party though, the game just give heaps and heaps of items that synergize perfectly with her.

In evil playthroughs I just flat out don't recruit her though.

So how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast yesterday?

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I don't understand the question.

this lmao

Let's be honest - people hate the character because she is an ugly nigger.

It's not satire or anything. It's just a basic assessment, people might make a joke off of it but it's literally how they truly feel.

So that means those posts that got deleted were basically a janny getting mad at people for making fun of a nigger in a fantasy RPG (a place where no nigger should ever be as it is meant to be an escape). What a joke.

nooo why did my spergout get deleted!!!11

fucking lmaoing at Anon Babblecels

2024

Still no Ember romance mod

No you don't get it.

I should have the right to escape niggers at all times and never see them in anything.

But NO ONE should have the right of escaping from my endless rantings and bitching about niggers.

on her banter

Ember and Nenio have some of the most interesting banter on the game.

Sosiel, Seelah are meh, Greybor, Lann and Daeran are just awful, Arueshalae is just intersting just to bring a demonic perspective, Regill is hit or miss, Camellia idk because I don't like her that much so I don't usually bring her, woljif is merely clumsily adorable in his interactions.

Lann and Daeran are just awful

Regill is hit or miss

this is the worst taste I have seen all year
congratulations

Ember is basically a kid! You can't bring her into combat

She is 110 years old and deity-touched, she will do fine.

Lann and Daeran are just awful

Regill is hit or miss

oh shit nigger what are you doing?

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Lann is plain boring bright knight without a plan, I tired of him fast, Daeran is just let me hide myself in a fachade of hedonism kind of noble, which made me feel disgust for.

Regill sometimes overdoes the "why so weak?" slick too often.

nobody forced you to take a trip to Anon Babble. stay in your thought policed home site if you like it so much.

fantasy races is fine

niggers and LGBTBBQ are not

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SOVL

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Yea I'm surprised too. Would mating press that hobo elf

says the hypocrite who wants to police fantasy games
lmao

nobody's forcing you to be retarded either.

Wot
Lann, Daeran, and Regil have nice banter together
Nenio is the worst character in the game

Nenio is the worst character in the game

At first I agreed, she just feels like furry bait with a stupid focus on being socially awkward.

Then I found her obssessive naivness entertaining and brought her along, but my mains are always ember, Regill and Arueshalae, and sometimes Nenio.

Daeran is fun, he has some entertaining ones, and the fact he actually can't bring himself to be mean to Ember is pretty heartwarming. Most of the time he's just an asshole, and while some of his assholes moments are entertaining, when he's just being meangirlstacy mode without a real joke to add it's really just not.

Seelah and Sosiel are interesting once in a blue moon when they happen to disagree with someone or say something hilariously out of touch, like Seelah trying to be nice to Ember but having her militant atheism grind her nerves hard, or Sosiel complimenting Camellia on being a kind and beautiful noblewoman. The rest of the time they're as interesting as watching paint dry, but at least they're pleasant and let you have one relatably normal person in the party.

Arueshalae has some really nice tidbits to contribute, but sadly a lot of the time they're taken over by regular shittalking from the party members that don't trust her, and that's too repetitive. Regill is one of those and he makes those take up like three quarters of his dialogues to everyone, just constant criticizing that ends up feeling unnecesary. Camellia is honestly boring as shit, she's just the meangirlstacy mode from Daeran but eternally and without any punchlines.

Lann tries hard to be the funny guy and doesn't really succeed. Actually only funny when it's someone else throwing shit at him. Wenduag is pathetic, her every interaction feels miserable, but in that way you can sometimes find specks of character mentality that are interesting to analyze.

Woljif is pretty good all around, no complaints, Ember is excellent and her shtick of saying the most obvious things that none of the more conflicted party members want to hear out loud makes for a lot of great interactions, and Nenio is just lolrandumb. Sometimes the lolrandumb manages to be funny, most of the time it's just "aight then".

Oh and Ulbrig also turned out to be one of my favorites. He's just got a well rounded set of topics to talk about, strikes a nice balance of nice and sincere conversations and "displaced sarkorian out of his element" comedy.

Ulbrig is just a really solid character, strong gameplay wise with an interesting backstory and a fun personality.

and the fact he actually can't bring himself to be mean to Ember is pretty heartwarming

literally all but two characters are not "mean to Ember" that's not special, she's just le hecking wholesome girl almost everybody likes

Already fixed it.

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Regill, Wenduag, Camellia, Woljif, and occasionally Seelah aren't nice to Ember. Ulbrig also, while not mean, doesn't trust Ember since she's a witch. That's way more than just two. Can't say I actually remember a single Lann/Ember conversation though.

Thesis

Antithesis

I fear the synthesis of this process

God, chuddies are pathetic

Regil IS nice to Ember and constantly wishes his men were half as brave as her though?
I use them together all the time.

Based.
How does that affect you personally?

Regill

Treats her with respect

Wenduag

The same and also sucks her off because she thinks she's playing everyone

Woljif

Bullies her at first but comes to feel guilty about it and they become friends

occasionally Seelah

She seethes at her fedora tipping but she doesn't hate her or anything
It's only Camellia (because she's a cunt) and Ulbrig (because Ember is a witch) that don't like her

Seething.

Nah hes right about Seelah. She seethes so hard at Ember all the time and goes straight into being offensive about it

I want to rape Ember.

Seelah only seethes when Ember tips her fedora which is all the time, she still gets worried about her when she gets kidnapped, she still supports her when she tries to convince some demons to join your side

I mean she is of age, right?

I don't think Wenduag being convinced Ember is lying and playing everyone and treats her with fear and respect counts as "being nice".

Right?
They shouldn't HAVE to fix the devs mistakes, just don't BUY it. This behavior will never end if you make NO attempts to punish it.

I'd be like fucking a downie. Morally dubious but not illegal.

It's funny that Seelah is supposed to be the iconic poster child for the paladin class when I don't think I've ever seen someone who has her as their favorite companion or put her in a list of favorites. Like holy shit she's just so fucking bland that I feel no shame in shitcanning her for a merc in the same role every time.

every game discussion on this cursed board always turns into a spergout about politics
Anon Babble and its consequences have been a disaster to the Anon Babble website

Regill not even responding

shit kabob

Holy fuck I wish there was an index for these interactions, funniest shit I've ever seen

tranny shits xir pants and starts samefagging about evil Anon Babble chuds

i-it's Anon Babble's fault!

Retard.

Lol retard

She's an iconic, they're very limited in what they can do with her: can't romance her, can't change her personality and can't romance her

Unironically would any players actually care if Owlcat was allowed to do things with the iconics

She looks cute!

Nobody serious says this.

can't change her personality

Not only can you change Seelah's personality, back in Kingmaker you could already make Amiri both change in her outlook on her tribe and gender roles in it, and also could completely mindbreak her at the end to the point she just runs away.

why is the game designed like this

What if you just y'know didn't reload

Yes, I want to romance Seelah because she's the only normal person in the party and slaughter Amiri because she's dumber than Valerie

responding or even reading posts by literal bots

You must be new around here
Seelah's a perfectly serviceable character that fits the game like a glove (as eloquently explained by ) and most of the bitching comes from people that never actually played the game much

What if you just y'know didn't reload

He plays for anything but perfect results

If I don't get my 20 on my religion lore check I am not going to sleep until I do.

Sounds like a skill issue with your ability to skill monkey

camtard has shit taste and doesn't like Amiri

Not surprised

You missed out a twinge. I played a full on evil demon lord that was exclusively nice to Ember and the end result was her typical good ending but with the goofy ass addition of 'also she's hoping you'll to stop being a dick to people'.. Honestly surprised she didn't just leave but I guess never being directly rude to her is enough.

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Care as in get pissed off or something like that

I thought them not allowing iconics to be romanced was just a writing thing from Owlcat, not a Paizo order. Vaguely remember reading something like that, but I could easily be wrong.

Just use Toybox and see all your out of combat rolls to 20.

But anon, save scumming is part of the fun.

that's why you use the ironman mode

Why can't I romance best girl, though?

Arue is right there though. You can even use her to enact the think about it logically pasta on Areelu.

You can devour her. To a Swarm, it's pretty much the same thing.
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swarmfag in the building

Ok everyone, evacuate slowly

*wins*

If you're too mean to Ember, she just loses confidence in herself and is basically mindbroken
Instead of some OP level 9 spell she just gets like -2 INT and that's it, pretty sad don't ask me how I know this

Someone vocaroo'd that once. Lost to time now, I think.

Can't bring myself to do it personally. Whether valiant paladin or abyssal dick, always gonna be nice to the weird atheist elf.

MY GREATEST ALLY

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the true power fantasy is being a force for good

You can. Ascending together means become lovers

You can actually miss that encounter by dicking around too much so that's another layer of meta protection on the sheboon

a petty crime is beneath an aeon

Terendelev? No.
Ah, actually, Jerrybeth right? Also no.

at aeon rank 8 you get a new dialogue with seelah which literally is "you commited crimes as a kid." she goes "yeah" and you can tell her to get out. as an aeon if you kicked every "criminal" out of your party you'd be left with like, just ember, soseil and regill.

Regill literally executes a bunch of crusaders, your crusaders. He has no aura because Owlcat is retarded and they think that since he's a lawfag that means an aeon must be okay with him

but regill's actions were lawful, it is lawful under the hell knights law

What part of crusaders do you not understand? He can kill his soldiers all he wants, but those weren't his

He took control of the order or rather they let him, I think he's allowed to do what he wants with them

He did not, this happens before that. The crusders' leader is still alive and he's about to say something before the gargoyles interrupt them

I know it's before he officially lets the rest of the survivors in as Hellknights but I think he was acting under joint-command of the entire unit at that point, not that I think they actually thought that far ahead for it to be considered as an excuse for an Aeon

the portrait art in this game suck ass

Not true.

they dont want you killing all the companions immediately in the prologue
you can very much kill her later in the game

I figured out how to fix the mainchar portrait

Show your main character portrait.

Never met that character in my playthrough, guess I just missed her :^)

You can get rid of your companions during Irenicus' lab

nooo there's too many options my zoomer skibidi brain can't handle it I need streamlined curated streamer approved options only!!!!

Aislops soseil and seelah

keeps daeran

playing as a woman

every time with the "wokeless" crowd

Are you me?

He isn't nigger-coded

Nah he is right. There are classes built around fighting enemies that are barely in the game.

They placed themselves under his command when they asked for help against the gargoyles.

It basically doesn't matter though beyond some flavor. Once you know the good traits to pick and download the buff mod the game gets pretty easy unless you're playing on the hardest difficulty.

they were under his command, as per the chain of command

to be fair I do appreciate a companion that for once is not some sort ochosen one, son of a god or demon, possesed by eldritch horror etc. one of a kind snowflake. I wish i liked her. I just dont

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alright post the dialogue that says he had taken command of them before their leader died

The problem is turn based mode. The game is 10 times easier on rtwp.
Turn based is often totally absurd with enemies that just wipe half your party in one turn on normal difficulty but stand around idling on rtwp.

huh not the pic I was going for
oh well

rock pet

it'd make sense. like those pets you keep for skill bonuses

somethingsomething want to fuck spiders

Not him but I will guide this big breasted fox as her god

I liked ekundayo.

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approach dragon

you need to make 2 easy dice rolls

then you get 2 absurdly hard ones

if you fail them you end up in the fight with the dragon who is 15 levels above you unbuffed and exhausted.

What aside from "reload" am I supposed to do? It's just bad dungeon-mastering.

thx

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At least he is a human and not a negro-elf or some shit.

He didn't like me sparing some monsters even though I did it so they can eventually repopulate and add some spice to life. As their Chaotic neutral ruler I think ahead.

I'm an incel and I never saw myself as a father, but Ember stirs some dormant paternal instinct in me I didn't know I had.

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greybore...

no im too busy playing a different game rn, someone else can

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! A BLACK PERSON!

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the fucking music swell

Yeah, Ember stirs some instincts in me too. but they're ot paternal.

Kept seeing that Sosiel was a boring goody two shoes priest but his first few interactions are him losing his cool and beating the ever loving shit out of someone with his fists and goading people into starting fights while gambling. Is this what passes as a normal priest for heathens like protestants?

Same but its both combined

Sadly does not work on my linux or maybe its Polish language mod

Its because they are forced

Posts like this make me feel like I have higher than average intelligence.

soseil's whole thing is that he's just like his brother (who was a paladin that immediately fell and became a hellknight) by all accounts he's terrible at practicing what he preaches

heres something most of Anon Babble wouldn't know, you can fucking toxic yaoi soseil in demon and literally beat him into staying with you in the later acts

I wish there was a white paladin.
Preferably male.

She's probably older than you

But what about her voice?

She says she was born around the time the Worldwound appeared so she's at least 70

uoh
lolibaba sexo

Very low quality AIslop.

Thanks.

she's dumber than Valerie

Wrong. Valerie is canonically dumber than the meathead barbarian.

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Valerie's Int

Wendu's Cha

Nenio's Wis

what did owlkek mean by this

who invited the geld dragon?