I don't give a shit if it's "woke" or not, I just think it's a bad game, it butchers the lore, and its artstyle is absolutely terrible.
Am I allowed to have this opinion or does that make me a "chud"?
I don't give a shit if it's "woke" or not, I just think it's a bad game, it butchers the lore, and its artstyle is absolutely terrible.
Am I allowed to have this opinion or does that make me a "chud"?
You are a faggot and a cuck if the wokeness alone isn't a huge red flag
seeking validation for your opinions
it makes you a cuckold
Do a Barve, chuddite
I literally do not give a single shit about "wokeness" so long as the game and story are good.
Anon Babble whined about Metaphor Refantazio being "woke" and yet its my game of the year.
Veilguard is simply not a good game. It feels like Dragon Age remade for the zoomer Fortnite audience.
You're a racist homophobic fascist xenophobic narcissistic antisemitic orange bigot chud
Everyone in this thread has offended me. Get on your fucking hands and give me 10-push ups or I'm letting the world get destroyed by evil. The party stops here!
Overly fixated on one thing (politics)
Not enough effort left for another thing (making a good game)
there is a correlation whether you want to admit it or not.
It's not a focus on politics, per se. it's a focus on pushing a certain real world political platform, which removes natural nuance, which directly causes bad storytelling, kills immersion, and strips player agency. So in a narrative game you've made half your game dogshit off the bat.
I literally do not give a single shit about "wokeness" so long as the game and story are good.
Wokeness literally affected the writing. Why do you think it's incredibly inoffensive? To avoid offending anyone. Why do you think the muslim stand-in isn't religious anymore?
Anon Babble whined about Metaphor Refantazio being "woke" and yet its my game of the year.
Journos were bragging about how woke it was because it was successful, and Anon Babble had people who actually played it explaining how it wasn't woke
I think you can have a game with "woke" elements which can still be excellent and tell a great story. I even think you can do controversial things like transgender characters and, if you write them well, it will be enjoyable. But Veilguard doesn't do this. it's just shit.
Found the nazi
Hitler lost, chud.
disingenuous
It feels like Dragon Age remade for the zoomer Fortnite audience.
Well yeah, those guys are mid 20's now.
Give up, fellow grandpa, our time has past
Theres nothing more sad that an adult getting mad his playthings are no longer for him
Rent free
How so?
did u beat it already ?
it's a bogstandard rpg, you're just mad because it has pronouns
Yeah I don't want to play a bogstandard RPG in a year when multiple excellent RPGs have released.
what the fuck? Drop on the fucking ground RIGHT NOW YOU BIGOT! GIVE ME 10 BARFS ON THE FLOOR!!!!
Anime has gays and blacks, and even literal trannies on very rare occasions (2 that I know about). The difference is that japanese artists don't believe in identity politics, the idea that identity is just a bunch of stereotypes that you need to have to be genuine. Forspoken hired Black Girl Gamers, an american consultation firm where most employees are black women, what did they do for their black girl protagonist? She's a felon that has a Nike collection
use of pronouns like in the game are stupid though
you cant take something seriously when they conflate being called "her" to a emotional state that then becomes a whimsical indescribable identity instead of an objective statement about the physical traits someone has for dimorphic reproduction
its puts the entire lense of the game into a subjective realm first instead allowing you to engage with an objective setting that then allows to form your own subjective experience in because you cant deny a nonbinary/trans person subjective experience by completely ignoring their pronouns
I think you can have a game with "woke" elements which can still be excellent and tell a great story
You think wrong.
it's a mediocre-to-bad Western action game with some minor RPG elements
"woke" means artificial political propaganda hamfisted down your throat at every step of the way (veilguard). Just because a character is respectful to women doesn't mean the game is woke. But if that same character says "women are great but MEN right? Ugh!" it becomes sweet baby inc danger hair writing
Incase you haven't figured it out yet. Woke is corporate. Woke has killed creativity. Now cope ,& seethe
Unfortunately people can't really agree on what it means.
Half the people will say "woke" to mean what you mean but the other half think "woke" is anything with women, black people or gay/trans people in it.
You have some teenage retards who honestly think GTA 6 is "woke" because one of the protagonists is a woman. Or RDR 2 was "woke" because there were black people and women in the gang.
The word "woke" should honestly be retired because its become completely useless.
Wokeness literally affected the writing. Why do you think it's incredibly inoffensive? To avoid offending anyone. Why do you think the muslim stand-in isn't religious anymore?
He doesn't understand what correlation is.
its the same thing with antisemitism or bigotry. The word has lost its meaning its been regurgitated and applied so much to everything and everything
Ah, I see. So THIS is the game that will be taking over the daily "Starfield is bad" threads.
Am I allowed to have this opinion or does that make me a "chud"?
It doesn't matter how logical your criticism is.
It doesn't matter what you're saying is based on reason, facts, or if you have some kind of other evidence to back up your argument. They don't care about facts or rationality, only emotions. Did you kowtow to the cult? Then you are spared...for now.
Did you disagree with the cult in ANY way? Then you are a chud, simple. They don't want to hear your defense as to why you are a chud. You disagreed with them. You are THE RESISTANCE.
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Who do you think has been buying the games since 2?
I don't give a shit if it's a bad game or not, I just think it's woke.
Hey anon is Bioshock woke or political?
you lost chud
Woke has reached peak absurdity. Since all of the characters are ethnically diverse, they can't have character flaws. It's a fucking joke.
I don’t give a shit if it is woke I just want a good game.
These types are an even a bigger problem than leftists. What a fucking retarded statement.
Or RDR 2 was "woke" because there were black people and women in the gang.
It's not an all or nothing proposition, a game can have varying degrees of pozz just like it can have varying degrees of everything else. RDR2 has some gay decisions that were made due to the political climate at the time that lessen it's feeling of authenticity. Arthur for instance is a rough and tough cowboy that has some awfully modern liberal views on women and PoC, but that's not the worst part, the worst part is that the bad guy is apparent from the get go because he's the only one allowed to say "darkies", and he's not even saying nigger he's saying a neutered version of a no no word. I like RDR2 but it's lacking some grit and believability when it comes to how authentic it feels as a period piece. Go watch The Proposition (2005) to see what the setting should have felt like, and it's even funnier that this low budget movie does it better since it's set in fucking Australia.
Everybody knows what it means. You can argue shit like "well I don't mind Eddie Murphy as a black cop" if you want, but his hiring ultimately stems from the exact same affirmative action hiring that has led to abominations in the modern day.
I'd use RE4 as a good point of comparison. RE4 is a perfectly fine game, but its entire design ethos is what ultimately ruined Resident Evil. There was nothing wrong with making an over the shoulder camera in theory, just like there's nothing wrong with Eddie Murphy. But these initial steps had far reaching consequences, and now we all pay the price.
People might have different lines they draw in the sand when it comes to a game being too woke or not, but it doesn't change the reality that the game is woke.
I think this game is a pile of shit, but it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it's sticky, stinky, and brown
trannies are false flagging retards and shitting up the definition because theyve burned through like 20 words to this 1 so we should stop using it
yeah nah
Why the fuck i should care about your opinon? fuck woke not even a cent from my money will ever go to these faggots.
What a shiity game. It didn't even deserve the piss poor numbers it got.
I don’t give a shit about wokeness. If a game is made by people with actual passion and effort l can respect it, unfortunately that doesn’t apply for 90% of aaa games now. It feels like they are made by people who treat the job like they are burger flippers at McDonalds, zero interest in their actual product and just want to get the day of work over with so they can go home.
only hit 70k on Steam and dropping already
Oof
You underestimate how retarded the average person is.
Yeah, those of us who are in our 20s and 30s and have some level of intelligence might be able to distinguish between "woke (as in overblown political activism)" and "woke (as in things i dislike)", but many other people can't.
Social media is full of literal 15 year olds from Mexico and India who just learned what "woke" means last month and now want to attribute it to EVERYTHING.
Much like SJW was 10 years ago, woke/wokeness were useful terms at one point but they've now been ruined because the well was poisoned by too many low IQ people.
Millions of True Gamers™ disagree with you. lil chuddie
This is my opinion too. I don't see a single redeeming thing about the game. Bad combat, bad narrative, bad companions, no RPG choices, repetitive enemies, awful art style, and braindead puzzles. What is there to actually praise? I guess the environment artists did a good job?
I don't give a shit if it's woke or not
You should, that's one of its major writing flaws and it's inseparable from how bad it is. The cutscenes are like some terrible HR video with awkward, stilted acting and forced in concepts like "non-binary" in a fantasy setting. Like, I get you're trying to make excuses so you can dislike it and don't end up in the same boat as le chuds but it really is just that bad.
70x more players than an actual good game like Ys Nordics
it's a bad game, it butchers the lore, and its artstyle is absolutely terrible.
So it's like any other DA after Origins.
You either accept everything after Origins as non canon or you accept Origins as non canon. Origins and the rest of the series are incompatible.
fpbp
Bitches with fences up their ass say this, but the truth is all those problems stem from that awful ideology. One look and you know this is a game that fucked itself up on purpose.
gtfo my board you little soi sipping faggot
it plays like a shitty mobile game and looks like one too. what a pos but anyway you're a retard le reasonable centrist
IT'S MY HECKIN GAME OF THE YEAR
lmao fucking delete yourself faggot
Dumb redditor.
I don't care if it's woke or not
bad
Sure, Chud. If you can't excuse the game's flaws in order to support a game that finally treats LGBT+ fairly then you're not a real ally.
Of course, now drop down and give me 20 you pathetic nazi inceloid. Now take this puberty blockers and inject the nearest child with them.
What are you, Phobic?
too late bro, you chud now.
I just think it's a bad game
There's your answer.
pretty much like that faggot shit is just as important as graphics,sound and gameplay.I hate those gate sitting retards like you woulnd/t beliee
youtube.com/watch?v=CP0xG_javx4
So the last secret end scene seems pretty stupid. Like everything that happened in the past games was pushed and guided to by so mysterious Illuminati like faction.
This is dumb as shit. The same mistake as erebonian curse in trails of cold steel. This garbage always retroactively makes previous entries worse.
No you have to pick a side in the culture war.
You're either on the right side or wrong side
Game's first cutscene is already pissing me off. Why the fuck is my mage engaged in a dumbass bar fight? They couldn't bother making another variant?
just wait when after years of searching to stop solas instead of attacking him they decide to ask him nicely
disrupts solas's rithual by toppling a pillar in the first 20 minutes
are u kidding me
Lol are they still doing the awful thing where waves of enemies spawn out of nowhere?
That part really surprised me, it's something 2 got so heavily criticized for that they experimented with more traditional encounter design in 2s dlcs and it was a massive improvement.
No idea why they'd go back to shitty wave design.
why do all western fantasy games have this art style that makes it look like it's people cosplaying and attending a larp with weird out of place purple particle effects?
Jesus these people can't write for shit.
Not only is that kind of asspulling something that arbitrarily ruins the prior games narratives and character developments, it also shows they always have to conjure up some bullshit for yet another unsatisfying villain.
then I have bad news for you...
I think these people refuse to look at historical armor and clothing to draw inspiration from, origins looked generic but this shit just seems clueless.
I want to dislike this game but I also want to virtue signal, what do
I recommend offing yourself
Barving so hard rn fr fr. Just quit yapping nigga. Let a nigga barve in peace!!!
The dialogue was the kicker for me
Everything is filtered through a smarmy middle schooler dialogue box.
Not to mention the fucking voice acting ISN'T SYNCED
Nah the big kicker is the complete lack of agency, the amount of "yes,yes,yes" here is insane.
i dont care that its woke
it butchers the lore
Ok anon, follow me on this one, WHY was the lore butchered? Its a series that had a good reputation based on its old lore, so WHY would the ruin said lore? What was the MOTIVATION behind the decisions?
So wait, no black city at all?
don't give a shit if it's "woke"
but the problem with that game story deranged troons pushing modern day politics into a fantasy setting of dragon age you retard
I'm contemplating buying the game just to hate playing it. I want to see this scene and be purified from this series for good
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