Which one ruined the magical girl genre the most?

Cardcaptor Sakura: Itsumo Sakura-chan to Issho!

Bishōjo Senshi Sailor Moon

Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

Only recognize the middle one
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God that's so grim

You know, I think the shift from TV to the Internet is what killed the genre.
You had shows that cater to girls in some way -Totally Spies, Sailor Moon, Winx, Witch, etc.- and there was a generation which took interest in that regardless of the intended target audience. Now that TV is essentially gone, the newer generation does not come into contact with these shows at all so the interest is really low at best and non-existant due to having no knowledge of its existence at worst.
While I think this is also true for many other shows and genres, including game genres, the magical girl genre is quite possible one of the few that suffered the most due to the lack of exposure. I don't think we could just simply point to one series and say "yup, this is the one that killed interest", I think it was more of a slow oblivion due to the fact that we changed from televized shows where you watched whatever is on the channel to on-demand forms of entertainment, so many shows will fade (back) into obscurity.

There's nothing wrong with mahou shojo in terms of writing.
The biggest issue is how little variety there is today.
If you want to blame someome, blame Precure for dominating the genre singlehandedly. There's no point in making long running mahou shojo because Precure will leave you in the dust, both in watch time and especially in merch. It's foolish to even try.
Precure has the monopoly over the genre and it's unlikely to change.
Precure itself is good, great sometimes even. But it killed any possible competition or variety of any kind in the industry.
Wrong. That was a short lived phase which has long ended now. Can you name any mahou shojo from last ten years that tried to be like Madoka Magica? You can't.
Absolutely fucking non-sense

But Sakura is from the same era as Sailor Moon. Why did you stop watching things?

Videogames?
Anyway wdym, they didn't ruin anything. It's a subgenre that managed to exceed its life expectancy, just how many times you can do transforming school girls who alternate between their normal life and fighting monsters before it gets old? The aesthetics are cute alright but no one wants to watch the same thing over and over again.

Unironically this

Precure itself is good

It's literally for toddlers. not even in a good way.

So is majority of mahou shojo especially the most classic one.

CCS, it attracted all the lolipedos to the genre

I really like the #6 pose :^)

Cute toes

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It just goes to show, newfags, even if they use our words, stay newfags

Time also killed the mecha genre and now we're stuck in isekai

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12 episodes of unadulterated kino

madoka saved the genre

I got bored of Madoka by episode 3.

It was one of two shows I watched that season where I went "What the fuck does Anon Babble see in this?"

This one, there's no point in watching anything after it since the genre has already peaked.

None of them really, but if I had to say one then Madoka because every mahou shoujo not named Precure became a dark subversion for the next decade. Some other genres also did the "dark twist deconstruction" meme.

Magical girl suffering is kino though

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What would happen if those 3 came into contact with magia baiser?

Madoka was a deconstruction of the genre but most people have never understood correctly what it deconstructed.
It was a Mahou Shoujo in which the MC DIDN'T become a magical girl and instead watched as her friend became one and all the things that came from it. It isn't until the end that she finally becomes one with understanding of the system she was contracting into.
It wasn't that it was a dark subversion, there had been a lot of Mahou Shoujo that were already "dark subversions" of the happy go lucky plot lines of the original Mahou Shoujo series.

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You can have dark shit, but when the "genre" falls in the trap of constantly trying to subvert itself, basically parodying itself or all the way into calling it magical girls when you want to do something unrelated with that aesthetic, that's when you know it ran out of juice.
It's not even an issue with being sincere nor sticking with traditions, it's just... the appeal is so different that there is probably very little overlap between your target audience and MG fans.

Pretty sure no one tried to imitate it but itself with its endless rehashing. And Madoka definitely did kill the magical girl genre: by showing the general populace that magical girl is a sad husk and the only way they can maintain interest is by making something that is 2edgy4u and full of yuri-slop. The henshin and magical girl aspects are literally tertiary elements in Madoka.

all the way into calling it magical girls when you want to do something unrelated with that aesthetic,

Magical Girls are more than sailor scout style outfits and mascot animals.

by showing the general populace that magical girl is a sad husk and the only way they can maintain interest is by making something that is 2edgy4u and full of yuri-slop.

Most retarded post of the thread.

Making babies with Sakura-chan!

There are the aesthetics anon, I'm talking about plot structure, themes, that are typical to the genre and episode format.
It's fine if you want to throw dark shit in, and sure enough you can mess with it enough, but if your show does NOTHING other than "the girls transform from plain to frilly outfits and shoot things" then you are mimicking aesthetics. Which is also ok and will do exactly that with at least one character if I ever get to make a videogame, but I don't call it a mahoushojo show for mahoushojo fans.

I'm talking about plot structure, themes, that are typical to the genre and episode format.

A lot of older MG shows varied on this greatly. Precure is what started to created a solidified idea of of those in MG shows.

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The Powerstuffed Girls.

What games can I play a magical girl?

There are no fun games where you play as a magical girl outside of the hentai genre.

Holy retard

"dark twist deconstruction" meme

Didn't the original Sailor Moon (the first season) also end up pretty dark with all the characters actually dying before doing the time rewind wish?
To me, it seems like the whole dark twist has been part of the genre since the beginning.

hentai's good too

A dark twist once isn't exactly something that belongs in one genre, an entire deconstruction goes a little beyond that.
Who in their right mind would call Sailor Moon a deconstruction? It's played very fucking straight no matter how many characters you kill.

Solidify maybe, but nah that's not the first at all.

I feel like one of the later seasons even has Evil Usagi from a Dead Future.

but nah that's not the first at all.

I didn't say it was the first, did I?
The point is that the genre only become that over time and that there still existed MG shows that didn't use that structure.

ywnbk(you will never be kino)

Blue Reflection is alright.

Precure

why did girls suddenly start hating being feminine
I notice the shift right around when myspace died

The point is that the genre only become that over time

Oh ok. Well to be fair this is pretty normal when something is new.
No one really knows what they are doing until authors seem to agree on what elements are you are expected to throw into your show.

Made me play that. A little barebones for a RPG but there was an attempt.

punk, goth, emo, scene, gay, trans. Maybe late 60s 2nd into 3rd wave feminism. Maybe later 70s.

That's less Madoka's fault and more about how people are.
When something is successful, there will always be copycats chasing after the success while only understanding the surface level as to why this was successful.

Look at all the "Halo Killers" that were coming out during the 2000s that all crashed and burned because all they took from Halo's success was "recharging health and 2 weapon limit"
And that's what all these "Dark Magical Girl" shows are. They thought Madoka's success was because "it was violent and edgy" and that's what all of them did was up the edge and violence for the sake of it.

That's why I said "None of them, really". It's hardly Madoka's fault, and Madoka is a great show.

I don't know man, the cosmetics industry is still making a killing.

Magical girl formula is way too restrictive and overdone, so there's nothing left to do except subvert it.

Well to be fair this is pretty normal when something is new.

I know, but people still did their own things even during the period where people "figured it out."
Nips do their best works when they aren't just painting by the numbers.

Magical Girl bros what's your favorite outfit from the entire genre? I'm talking everything

If choosing just one is too hard then try a top 3/5