What should I buy?

take the 1440p oled pill

27" 1440p 240hz glossy oled

I couldn't possibly be happier with this monitor. I use dldsr to render at 4k for any game i have the gpu overhead for, and anything very intensity stays at 1440p
and yes dldsr makes a huge difference, it looks just as good as a real 4k monitor when it's on
I also have a 55" LG C3 though

alright thanks guys, I'm going to buy nothing and keep shitposting on my 24 inches 144hz tn, shit sucks

1440p lol

1440p lol

1440p lol

the regret is bright in there

This. I've got a 24" 1080p 60hz TN monitor from 2011. It's perfect and anything "better" is actually worse. You're getting swindled if you buy anything more.

the regret is bright in there

SAAR PLS DO REDEEM

4k on a small screen is a waste of money

In my opinion, OLED is technology for television, not for PC monitor.
If you have the habit of watching movies, series, documentaries, anything like that, on the living room television, then put an OLED because it's the only way to have a decent image in your home nowadays. Just don't watch the news on it...
The technology doesn't seem appropriate to me for a monitor, however, unless you're a total retard and can't understand that on your PC monitor you have a lot more to worry about than contrast.

anything except IPS, i will never fucking buy this dogshit meme again

4k at 32" means you will scale to 125% anyway, which is then equal to 1440p. Old vidya (with little to no text) at 4k look neat though

4k

32"

None of these.

4k starts at 40". You wouldn't buy a 16" 1080p monitor, so why would you buy a 32" 4k one?

The biggest problem with OLED for computers is the atrocious subpixel layout, which makes all content designed for computers look like absolute shit.

The maximum size for a 4K monitor should be 21.5" for that pixel perfect 200% 1080p scaling. So good you could lick it.

the regret is bright in there

esl

spending 4-5x the money on a monitor for the sake of... clearer text, which cleartype already does for free

There is nothing sadder than macfags who are too stupid for Windows.

jeet thinks his cheap 4k piece of shit is better than a 1440p OLED

L M A O

which cleartype already does for free

Cleartype is going away. Open the settings app in Windows 10/11 and tell me the text looks good at 100% scaling. It doesn't. Same with any other WPA apps.
And text clarity at 100% scaling still looks better on a Mac than on Windows with ClearType even after they removed the subpixel anti-aliasing in 10.14.
I use Windows and macOS side by side on 24" 1440p monitors and macOS still looks better, but if there was a 5K 120hz monitor, I'd buy two in an instant to replace these for that retina quality text.

I currently have a 60hz 27" 1440p monitor and I legitimately don't know what to upgrade to.

I fucking need a higher refresh rate, I need g-sync. But premium monitors these days are weird, 1440p has become this budget to mid-range option and premium monitors are ridiculously priced OLEDs. Like 6 years ago, you could buy a premium monitor for 600 bucks, now it feels stupid to spend 500 bucks on a non-OLED monitor. But I don't want oled because oled is bad for desktop use and only good for media.

I need to find a really good 165hz 1440p 27" monitor, preferably with good calibration out of the box

Open the settings app in Windows 10/11 and tell me the text looks good at 100% scaling

Looks fine. Whatever your issue is, it's probably dogshit subpixel alignment.

retina quality text.

Always makes me laugh when guys with no understanding of reality repeat marketing buzzwords as if they mean anything. "retina quality" as defined by apple is 60 PPD. 60 PPD is a 24" 1080p monitor at 3 feet away, which is the standard desktop distance, and the standard desktop monitor. Nothing made in the past 15+ years is "sub-retina quality".

And text clarity at 100% scaling still looks better on a Mac

It absolutely doesn't. Mac text quality is atrocious if you're not driving way too many pixels to try and make up the gap because Microsoft copyrighted cleartype. The only way macs can compete is with bloated resource hungry displays to try and hide their awful font rendering issues.

if you have the money then buy the most expensive thing

Looks fine. Whatever your issue is, it's probably dogshit subpixel alignment.

There is no ClearType in WPA apps. It's turned off because it was designed for tablets that might have their displays rotated and therefore subpixel anti-aliasing gets screwed up due to no longer having an RGB layout.

Always makes me laugh when guys with no understanding of reality repeat marketing buzzwords as if they mean anything

Retina on a desktop/laptop display is 218-220PPI. Any monitor with less than this isn't retina and it absolutely makes a noticable difference.

It absolutely doesn't.

It does, which is why people use MacType to get a similar look on Windows. Before 10.14, Apple licensed the ClearType tech from Microsoft in order to do subpixel anti-aliasing up until 2018 when it expired, but their current grey anti-aliasing actually looks better. I know because I've ran macOS 10.13 and macOS 12 side by side and macOS 12 has clearer text.

overpriced garbage

Is OLED for monitors "safe" now? I have burn-in from the browser and desktop on my OLED TV, as well as some icons from Elden Ring, but that model is from 6 years ago.

isnt 27in better for 1440p?

No. Too small.
1080p for 24-27 inches.
1440 for 32 inches
4K for 40 inches
8k for 110 inches
Unless you're a drooling crapple retard like you'll be perfectly content because at normal viewing distances it is literally impossible to see the difference, even if you have better than 20/20 vision, which you don't.

32 inch 1440p is the same pixel density as 24 inch 1080p.

I've got 20/30 vision and can see the difference between my old 1080p 24 inch and new 1600p 24 inch display, even 3 feet away on my desk. The 1440p one is much clearer. I wouldn't buy a 1080p display ever again and if I ever went bigger, I'd go for 4K/5K/6K/8K.

You say I don't understand reality but I look at a mac vs. a windows and the text looks better on the mac whatever the technological backend.
What am I doing wrong on windows to not get the same or better quality?

WPA apps

Not applicable to 99% of real users. I did check on the settings, I guess they're using some greyscale shit instead. It's barely noticeable with a proper setup, requires a lot of zooming.

Retina on a desktop/laptop display is 218-220PPI

As defined by Apple themselves, Retina is 60 PPD and up. PPI is a completely worthless measurement of display quality and only a MORON such as yourself would use it.

MacType

Nobody uses this shit. I looked it up to be polite, it's absolutely fucking hideous and sacrifices readability for blur city and massive issues with line thickness.

I detest Apple's font design philosophy, it only "works" on high DPI setups and it doesn't really work there either.

Good thing my pc is mainly for gaming

PPI is a completely worthless measurement of display quality

If you've ever seen a 1080p 27" monitor, you'd know right away this isn't true. They have an ugly screen door effect unless you view them from like 8-10ft away, which nobody is doing at a desk.
PPI does matter and is the reason why TVs are 4K now despite being the same sizes as the old 1080p ones, because even at 15-20ft away from a TV, you can still tell the difference.
Anybody saying otherwise is just a poorfag coping.

It is, 1440p on a 32" is borderline. I had the chance to get one for free from my office, but after trying it out decided not to. And had I actually paid for it I would have regretted it. That said I find 32" too big for a desktop anyway, you have to either move your eyes/head too much, or push it further back which makes it pointless. Although I use my setup for work as well, maybe it's fine and more immersive for gaming.

1600p 24 inch display

Didn't know this was a thing. I might finally have a replacement for my ancient NEC MultiSyncs if these have proper color.
24" 16:10 is the perfect size and aspect ratio. 16:9 is a joke and I hate that it ever caught on.

muh PPI

Man, you're still going?

the reason why TVs are 4K now despite being the same sizes as the old 1080p ones, because even at 15-20ft away from a TV, you can still tell the difference.

Really? Let's test that, shall we? You said "same sizes", so we'll go for the standard 1080p size, which was 43". Plenty of 4k screens are made at this size. And you said 15 feet away, so let's compare PPD.

At 15 feet away from a 1080p 43" screen, the PPD is 161. At 20 feet it's 215.

The theoretical upper limit of visual acuity in humans is around 140 PPD. So a 1080p screen at this distance is already unresolvable on a pixel to pixel basis. So you are talking absolute shit, because you don't understand the first fucking thing about vision.

bro do gamer really buy 1k$ for monitor
i just cant

4K

Only if you have a 4090 and plan to upgrade to a 5090 next year.

Then why make 4K TVs? Put them side by side and the 4K will undoubtedly have a sharper and richer image assuming the media you are displaying is in 4K.

Then why make 4K TVs?

Because they need to convince blubbering retards like yourself that they need new TVs. Same shit as when the government shut down analog TV transmissions and forced everybody to buy new TVs in 2009 in order to stimulate the failing economy.
THINK. FOR. ONE. FUCKING. MINUTE.

Whatever you do, never buy anything aside from 16:9 unless you want to get shafted by 98% of the games.

Then why make 4K TVs?

This is really a topic for another thread entirely, but it mostly comes down to "we need to sell more TVs, so people need a reason to upgrade". For a while it was HD, which was a significant improvement in picture quality. Then they tried 3D, which didn't take off at all. Now it's 4k.

But what's funny is the vast majority of 4k TVs are completely unsuitable for 4k. They're too small. 4k for the living room (6 feet away on a couch) starts at 85". Anything smaller is too small to make any appreciable difference in picture quality. And this is to say nothing of how atrocious 4k is as a media format, nobody even buys BDs anymore, and even if they did color 35mm film resolves to 1440p at best due to the minimum size of dye clouds.

4k is absolutely incredible for computing. It's near worthless for video, and completely worthless for your modern streaming setup. I guess maybe the netflix menu text will look slightly sharper.

Only cinematic movie games do that shit, and on a 16:10 monitor, it's just like watching any modern movie on a 16:9 TV with black bars at the top and bottom because the art of pan-and-scan somehow got lost about 15 years ago.

You should never buy anything that isn't 16:9 because you will be paying more money for less screen.

NTA and I don't know about the numbers, but the screen door effect is very real. People just assume a 1080p panel has 1080 pixels covering the entire height, and do not account for the fact that on a panel with a lower resolution, the gap between the pixels will also be bigger, and you will be able to tell.

The first TV I bought was a 42" 1080p Sony, and I returned it after less than week because the screen door effect was so bad, waited a few years for 4K panels to appear.

art of pan-and-scan

lol pan and scan is a blight on cinema and nobody should be wishing for its return
you lose half the movie

Your issue was screen distance, I imagine your living room is miniscule. I've had multiple 1080p screens in multiple living rooms, and I've never had any issue with them sitting on a couch. Obviously if you've got your face right up against them you can see the pixels, and even the subpixels.

You should've just bought a smaller screen for your shack.

Your issue was screen distance

Obviously, but that's the case for literally every display.

You should've just bought a smaller screen for your shack.

That's a retarded argument against higher display resolutions. We're hitting diminishing returns for what's generally feasibly in the home, but 4K was very needed for TVs, as was 1440p for monitors.

1080p is the best and maximum resolution one will ever need. You adjust the display size based on how far away you are sitting, that's it. Nothing more.
1080p is THE standard today, yesterday, and 50 years from now.

4K was very needed for TVs,

Name one reason why. Your own basic inability to understand resolution isn't one, I'm talking about actual tangible benefits for real users.

In an absolute best case scenario, 4k offers a 10% improvement over 1080p for video. For computing obviously, that improvement can be up to 400%. 10% is hardly "needed", it's a far more marginal improvement than the jump from 1680x1050 to 1920x1080.

No and it never will be. Wait for micro-LED in 50 years

I actually need a new monitor, what would you guys recommend for ps5?

A TV.

would you still say that if I use a pc as well but don't game on it as much?

Depends on what kind of games you play.
Since you said PS5 I assume you don't need a mouse and keyboard and the TV will be better for a couch+controller setup.

To sell more TVs. This has always been a thing going back to the beginning. They saturate the market and then need to come up with a new angle to get people to upgrade. Sometimes these upgrades are worthwhile, sometimes not. Back with CRTs there were advancements over the decades like going from b&w to color, or stereo sound, or upgrading from RF to composite/s-video/component, or just being able to buy larger TVs in general. Then came HD and flat panels, and these were far cheaper than CRTs to produce, and they quickly saturated the market by the early 2010s. So they needed to look for something else to get people to buy. They tried curved TVs, 3D gimmicks, etc. Nothing really stuck until 4K.

4K is, in many situations, a total meme when it comes to TV. Unless youre sitting up close to a massive screen like some kind of Goober, its not gonna matter. And even in situations where it actually isn' physically possible to resolve the difference, chances are the limiting factor is the bitrate of whatever 4K stream you're watching on jewflix anyway

Slightly unrelated but does anyone know what these lines are?

A few months ago my monitor started having these faint vertical lines, it's particularly noticeable in low contrast images or grey ones.

It looks like backlight failure or something with the ribbon cable, they aren't solid lines but rather transparent lines across the whole screen.

Enjoy your burn in.

I got this thing. 24 inch, 1440p, 165hz. Would only update to something more premium at the same size now.

retard from 2015 spotted

I don't see why you wouldn't get a 4k in this day when DLSS and FSR exist?

Whichever one has BFI.
That's the only tech that matters right now.

35mm film resolves to 1440p at best

35mm holds up to about 6K of resolution.

what should I buy?

4k

4k

4k

at the same size now.

impossible. 24" is dead. 27" is now considered too small for most people. 32" is the new standard.

Cope more, the issue is fundamental to the organic components that give OLED its name. Enjoy babying your PC monitor, black soulless wallpaper, hiding the taskbar and topbar, always worrying about static UI elements. And spending 2 grand for the pleasure of that? Nah, fuck that

35mm holds up to about 6K of resolution.

No, it doesn't. Anything above 1440p just makes the grain clearer, there is no further information to be gleaned from the film due to its physical limitations.

70mm could maybe go up to 6k.

I'd buy a 32" 6K display if anybody made one at a reasonable price. $5000 (stand not included) is ridiculous.

You can easily run 4K off a much lesser card with DLSS or FSR

DLSS or FSR

So 480p-720p.

Confirmed for never actually having used DLSS or FSR. You run it at 1080p or 1440p and upscale to 4K. With the higher resolution, the artifacting from the AI upscale is far less noticeable than at 1440p.

That's what I thought too but that one came out last year.

With the higher resolution

but the human eye can't see more than 1080p

Name one reason why.

Already did. Both the lack of screen door effect for all content, as well as the benefits of 4K movies and games, are readily apparent to me. That you choose to watch your $99 24" Costco kitchen LCD from the other side of the living room with the equivalent size of a postage stamp is your business.

There is nothing sadder than windowjeets who are too poor for Mac.

gigabyte m32u, 4k 32 inch 144hz lcd for 499.99
or if youre outside of us you can try to find Philips Evnia 32M2N6800M which is a 32 inch 4k 144hz ips MINI-LED for around 750-ish,

1080 is all you need

literally the best panel type behind oled and mini led lmaoo
dont tell me you bought that washed out TN panel or that blurry ghosting mess that is VA?
slop

4k is a damn gimmick, sonny.

IPS is literally the best panel type

wew lad, enjoy that glow

60Hz is absolutely dogshit.
IPS looks like absolute shit on dark games. VA/QLED is fine for TVs, but monitors usually have awful image quality so you want OLED

benq

that company does nothing right except their dyac 2 tn panels

muh glow

practically not that noticeable in any good monitor, the one you posted is some shit low quality monitor that wasnt even calibrated right

anyway VA monitors have shit response time, horrible ghosting, blurry mess, random black dots appearing

bought 42" OLED TV

looks great but too big for desktop use

Can't decide whether I want to replace it with a 27" or a 32" OLED monitor.

practically not that noticeable in any good monitor

This. My NEC eIPS monitors from 2011 have almost no backlight bleed. They glow when black obviously, but it's completely uniform. Only cost $900 back then too.

Go for the 32", its the sweet spot of high PPI while not being obnoxiously too large to fit on a normal desk. 4K also improves text readability on OLEDs significantly. 1440P OLEDs have known text fringing problems

I don't need 4k, faggot.

the g27q is one of the best budget 1440p 144hz ips monitors and it doesnt suffer from anything like in that picture the guy posted, in fact the picture is pretty good and bright i.rtings.com/assets/products/Tu7AMJhX/gigabyte-g27q/display-large.jpg?format=auto

only cost $900

only

nigga thats more than my entire PC

I own a 28 inch monitor and I think it's very big so no, I would recommend a 27 inch or 28 inch monitor instead

text fringing is seeable only with a magnifing glass, unless you have a baby desk forcing you to nose kiss the monitor

I have a 43" monitor and I think it's too small.

I have a 24 inch monitor and I think it's too big, but nobody is making decent screens smaller anymore.

4K also improves text readability on OLEDs significantly. 1440P OLEDs have known text fringing problems

This is a good point. Even if you think that you shouldn't really need the higher PPI, there are technical issues like subpixel layout that just get solved automatically.

I'm looking at it right now on a 1440p OLED and it aint pretty. Games are amazing but web browsing is not great

Would I be able to fit a 27" IPS monitor for static shit without it feeling too cramped? My desk is 60x30 and using a second monitor with the TV annoying because it takes up so much space (and I have bookshelf speakers next to my desk). I currently have the IPS monitor on an arm and pull it in front of the TV when I use it.

1440P OLEDs have known text fringing problems

That's a shame. I have a 7900xtx so running 4K isn't really a problem but 27" is pretty comfy.

To be clear the 1440p oleds have absolutely zero issue in games, it's just web browsing or anything using text rendered by the operating system. I have a 32" VA on an arm in portrait and have plenty of space.

Pic related (work in progress).

You're sitting too close. Like I said, 1080p is all anybody ever needs, just get a smaller or bigger screen from where you are sitting. 4K is a joke.

you should buy a 55 inch 60 Hz television, fuck monitors

I got

1080p 23.8" 180hz IPS

1080p 23.8" 75hz IPS

LG OLED C2 42"

4K 27" 60hz IPS

I'd only be using it for games and anime/movies so that's not a problem. I'll probably go for the 32 first and get a 27 if it feels too big. What monitor do you have? I've been looking at the AW3225QF.

Buy this and stream yourself using it.