TTYD flop

Now tell me how many gamecubes were sold compared to switches

I have Dolphin and hd textures.

I played the original, why would I play the exact same game again?

What is it a flop when compared to?

TTYD is one of my all-time favorites but this remaster absolutely butchered the game with unnecessary changes.
And they're never going to make another good Paper Mario, so enough of that "vote with your wallet" cope.

b-b-b-but *moves goalposts*

Cope, snoygger.

I wish I had the power to kill everyone in this board

NOOO THEY CHANGED A FEW LINES OF DIALOGUE, LITERALLY *BUTCHERED*

Anon Babblefag

It outsold the originals lifetime sales in a few months, it's a success no matter how much you cope and seethe about it

I've played it a hundred times and didn't feel like getting it again when I still have my GC somewhere.

Fans wanted a remake. Nintendo released a demake

it barely outsold the original in a console with 15 million sales by 2004 vs 140 million consoles

kek it was the argument of TTYDfags originally that TTYD did really well actually because it sold a lot relative to the gamecube's install base
Now you are being hoisted by your own petard because the remake sold terribly relative to the switch's install base compared to the original

Vivian is my favorite partner.
I will never touch the Switch version so long as I live. Fuck Treehouse.

I don't buy rereleases, remasters or remakes.
They also made the dialogue worse, the graphics worse, and the framerate worse. I'll buy a Nintendo game once they make something original and good again a hundred years from now.

the remake selling 1% more copies that the original on a system that has sold 600% more (140m to 20m) is GOOD, actually

holy kek

nobody cares mario as a rpg,it's just nostalgia

2M for a remake is a flop.

The absolute state of this board.

All this time i thought the ttydfags were a big majority
Turns out they are not

You really need to take off those AAA goggles man. It's really warped your perception on what's a flop or not as those games have such grossly inflated budgets.

Anything over 1 million is a huge success for AA titles. For Nintendo, that's everything except 3D Mario, Mario Kart, 3D Zelda, Pokemon, Splatoon, and Smash. Fire Emblem Echoes only sold a million at the most and Nintendo cited it as a success during one of their investor meetings.

So, which NSMBU/3D World enemies would everybody like to see in the next game? Personally I want to see Huckit Crab or Hop-Chops next.
Remember, they'll only appear as a minor enemy at best, and never get dialogue. But the exciting part of Modern Paper Mario (and NOT The Thousand-Year Flop) IS seeing which modern-era enemies get in.

sub-30 fps

woke '''localization'''

no new major content or improvements

inferior to Paper Mario 64

Old Mario RPG nostalgia fags are a loud minority

Because it didnt do anything different. I already have the GC version, what exactly am I missing out on that would justify rebuying it? They should have made PM64 with updated graphics.

I already have the GC version, what exactly am I missing out on that would justify rebuying it?

There won't be another old-style Paper Mario ever again because you didn't buy it

Did better than Luigi's Mansion 2 at least.

There wasnt going to be one regardless, because that would require competency and effort

Actually it's your fault.

but

Your fault.

but you

Your fault.

concessi

Your fault.

cope and s

Your fault.

Two new bosses and every chapter has its own battle theme.

Barely, and that's a game that literally noone cares about and is significantly newer so less point of a remake

Not worth full price, I got a fucking infant to take care of and diapers are expensive.

If you buy remake/remaster then they'll make new games

I heard this dozens of times but it never happened.

Nintendo should stop pricing AA games as AAA games. A Gamecube HD port should at MAX be $20.

There was no point in remaking TTYD either. The graphics looked fine still and the mechanics werent updated. You were paying for:

2 new bosses

new battle theme per chapter

worse localization

worse graphics in a few places

Other than that, its literally the same game. Why buy it?

legions of TTYD fanboys

No such thing. It was a failed game on a failed console.

I would have still bought the game if it was only the Vivian change, because that's baseline in 2024.
But they also had to change dozens of other interactions in the game because it was too icky. Noped out.

not on sale anywhere in any capacity

30 FPS when the original could do 60 FPS on far weaker hardware

treehouse localization sterilizing the script, but not before making Vivian a troon

In spectacular irony, this only made the original GCN version even more valuable.

b-but the reviews that say it’s better than the original

Nintendo does this sometimes though, like how Link's Awakening remake preceeded Echoes of Wisdom, FDC remakes preceeded Emio, and Samus Returns preceeded Dread.

1.76m sold in first month

0.18m sold in next three months thereafter

yikes

What's the point of buying it when my steam deck can emulate the original with high-res textures?

Stop sucking Nintendo's dick. The issues run deeper than Vivian being a tranny instead of a femboy

Luigi's Mansion 2 is catching up actually.

oh it sold like shit after the initial marketing push, that must mean it sucks

What actual significance does this have? No shit people are gonna stop thinking about a remake of a singleplayer one-and-done game once the marketing is finished

oh no no no

hope you don't mean monetarily because the gamecube version is at half its value

see
It's performing worse than other titles after their first month

Never played the original.

Was really hyped to play this

Find out troonhouse pulled a troonhouse

Skip it

Rest in piss

Should have made it 60 fps

It's performing worse than other titles after their first month

Okay but again, why does this matter? Without context I could explain this as just name recognition from people browsing the nintendo shop or something, rather than it being some inherent flaw in the games themselves

youtube.com/watch?v=dC-mqz4FNc8
Not just Paper Mario but also other games that run at 30 frames per second as well and a lot of people tend to not have a big deal with it including myself, Glad I'm not the only one that also finds the argument and debate extremely stupid and pointless and I think it's a laughable embarrassment from a bunch of complainers that always tend to make up excuses to make themselves feel better.

Why would I buy a shitty remake or remaster or whatever when I can just play the original?

I'll only buy main series Mario games. Mario RPGs were never that amazing to me.

Yes the debate is stupid, anyone defending 30 fps is a retarded zoomer

Does this mean it sold less than all the crappy ones? The series is doomed?

Thanks for proving my point about the toxic pc pirates

If I could I would kill all salesfags.

thats nothing, last night the snoys were trying to claim 21 million is a flop

You think I pirated this game? No. I played it when it came out on the gamecube before you were born, zoom zoom

I can't believe people are actually saying "Since Vivian is trans in the remake, that means she has always been trans!"
How? When the original version was made by different people (can be verified by watching the credits of the original and switch versions), doesn't use the word "trans" in either version, and if she was always trans, where were you woke people 20 years ago when the game originally released?

Because creators don't own canon, companies do. If a company decides a change is law, then consoomers will follow their word without question.

It still sold better than color splash

Only 1.94m

Sticker Star after 6 months :)

Even rpg like Xenoblade sold more lmao

where were you woke people 20 years ago when the game originally released?

We used to call them faggots. Dick-in-ass loving homofaggots.
But then gay people became too "normal" in America in the 2010's, so the snowflakes had to latch onto other concepts to maintain their "specialness".
Also, the internet wasn't nearly as mainstream or globalized in the early 2000's, so only otaku nerds knew about Vivian in the original JP script being a crossdressing boy, which they thought was funny because it rounded out the three-step joke of the shadows.
Which I'll continue to remind people, the shadows are living jokes based on how they glorify themselves as "bewitching beauties". Except one's an old bitch hag, one's a fat drooling retard, and the only one that's amicable and cute has a penis, no vagina.

Now let’s see origami kings sales

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Sales Door

Maybe it's hard to read because it's in 10,000s for some stupid reason. But I was pointing out Sticker Star sold more than TTYD's remake in the 1st six months.

TTYD Remake: 1.94 million

Sticker Star: 1.97 million

LOL

I love the original game, but this is the same game. I'm not buying anything unless it's a new old school Paper Mario

the only nu-PM that sold worse than TTYD remake is Color Splash

and that's only because the WiiU is an even bigger flop than the Gamecube

wasn't it because it was a new mario game after odyssey? kind of like how arms sold a lot but fucking died after, since it was a launch title

Sticker Star is a 3DS game

TOTAL
LUIGI
VICTORY

did the best after zelda and mk8d on the latest chart

OP is a faggot

oh i got confused, i thought you were mentioning origami king

Luigi bros we can't let that tranny game win

I happened the replay the GC version like a couple of weeks before the remake was announced. So I just skipped it.

I own the original and have played and beaten it multiple times, so the only reason I'd buy the remake would be for my kids to play on the convenience of their Switches. My kids, however, are nine and seven, so I'm not going to buy them something with adult content like trannies.

Name another relevant first party game that's come out in the last 6 months

trans isn't exclusive to adults

No, Origami King sold far more than that, TOK sold over 3million in the 1st six months. I'm only pointing out Sticker Star because even its beat out TTYD's remake despite being reviled and releasing on the 3DS in 2012 when Nintendo were trying to salvage the system from the botched launch.

It's time for you to take the Origami King pill.

Women aren't supporting it. Always them fucking shit up.

Which trans?

The biggest sin was not letting me play the original game. They could've included it as bonus content. But no, they force the changes and make them mandatory from now on. Hard pass.

Brothership will mog

Just say you're a pedophile instead of hiding behind gender affirmation bullshit

The OG game's script would've been meddled with too. America is no longer tolerant of fat shaming, specific and selective forms of misogyny (some misogyny is still totally cool, though), or referring to someone as being in a state of mental instability.

Sticker Staryans won.

America is no longer tolerant

This is a strange way of saying that the asylum patients are now running the place

2m*$60=$120m just to re-release a game that already existed
What are you calling a flop? Lol

People don't know what they want

nearly 2 millions unit for a 20 years old game is INSANE. dont kid yourself, the "remake" part is so little its basically just a repack of the old title.

They aren't running shit, the same jews who were in control in the early 2000's are still in control today. It's just that the deranged lunatics of today prove useful because they're completely willing to serve as eunuchs in exchange for being given "a voice that everyone will hear."

TTYDfags are the most delusional and obnoxious fanbase in all of gaming

I would have bought it on release if it weren't a complete demake.

only reason to buy TTYD demake is to fight Prince Mush and Whacka

could already fight an even harder The Master (basically the same thing as Mush) in modded PM64

could already fight Whacka in modded PM64

Why did people who aren't trannies want to buy this, again?

Why would you play the demake? I'm glad it flopped.

it was never good

late Switch release that outsold the original's lifetime sales in a few months

It's a success no matter how much you shit and cry about it. The Switch is almost dead, games just aren't selling much anymore, 2 millions for a remake this late in the game is excellent. I'll be surprised if the new M&L can even manage these numbers. The new Pokemon game early next year will be the last big seller, and I sincerely hope Nintendo won't be retarded enough to dump Prime 4 on the dead platform.

I'm a third-worlder so I'm waiting for it to go on sale.

I'm tired of pretending that TTYD isn't self-evidently the best Mario RPG by a huge margin.
All 64fags, M&Lfags and nu-PMtrannies have to talk about is sales figures, because they know their games are objectively worse in every metric than TTYD.

Reminder that Nintendo of Europe is probably responsible for Mario's hand gesture changing, those fuckers are RUTHLESS about anything that they can even vaguely conceive as a "nazi gesture" if the Pokemon Teraleak is anything to go by.

i didn't buy it because i emulated it 2 years prior for the first time

TTYDsisters… we were supposed to destroy TOK in sales since everyone wanted TRUE Paper Mario… right?

by a huge margin

Depending on your metric 64 and SS can put up a good fight. For instance 64 has better level design than TTYD. We shouldn't be fighting for the seat of THE BEST MARIO RPG when we've got trannies defending SS slop.

Sticker star got an unfair advantage because it was sold with the promise of being a return to form instead of being sticker star. Nintendo doesn't give a shit about returns, thats the retailer's problem now

You'll get your quirky adventure-puzzle game that only includes turn-based battles out of obligation in 2028 and you'll fucking like it.

I bought the game, but if it really sold that little then whatever. Just let the Paper Mario series die. The new games suck but if people won't buy the old ones then there is no point. People begged for a remaster/remake for years and then either didn't buy it or were able to make a ton of noise with a small amount of people.

Just let the Paper Mario series die

This is what everyone with a brain has been saying for years. Fuck everyone who thought buying TTYD would push Nintendo to make more Paper Mario (and not PAPER Mario). It was never going to happen.

Behold, the best Paper Mario game

I bought two because I’m certain in 10 to 20 years I can sell this thing for $300

The new shit Zelda outsold it in a month thoughever

Those aren't great sales for an original Zelda game. It won't even get close to the Link's Awakening remake.

Either that, or they'll just make more Sticker Star-likes. So yea, either way you look at it, it's dead.

Copey wopey time

What did they change?

Pacing. You have to wait for your star energy to fill from the spectators cheering you before the enemy can attack. This adds a little delay in every turn. More delays are added in menu and other little things, making the entire playthrough longer despite having shortcuts.

Tons of dialogue changes. Like, dozens of edits. To the point where it starts messing with the writing of the game. This is really egregious, both on principle level AND on basic quality level.

New soundtracks. Some don't fit. Some are bad. Moon fortress for instance got butchered.

New visuals are.... a mixed bag. There was no reason to remake TTYD. It messes with the original vision.

several lines of dialogue, casualized the game with instant retries (even in the pit), forced in cardboard aesthetics that ruin the visuals.

really there's no reason to play it over emulating on Dolphin with HD pack

Those aren't great sales for an original Zelda game

It came out on September 26 and those sales are for the period ending September 30, so it's literally 5 days of sales.

even without any kind of HD improvement, the rendered picture in the original game still looks great.

SMRPG was better. Despite TTYD's remake and Brothership, it still remains the best of the recent ones.

Censored!

Not really, they took away a boob jiggle but made the alcohol more accurate and added more leg.

30 FPS!

Nope, 60, although it does dip sometimes on real hardware. I have not played far enough on Switch to really say what my experience has been.

$60!

Take it up with Nintendo that's been their game since forever ago.

The music is worse!

You can change the music back to the original very easily but I think for the most part the rearrangements were good.

It's easier!

An actual complaint. They should've added a Hard instead of an even easier mode. The rematches showed what harder fights could be and I want more.

Bigger chart.

2024 is probably one of the worse Nintendo years. Lost to Palworld, lost Astro Bot, all games flopped and the only thing of note was a Spotify ripoff...
How the mighty have fallen...

Why on God's green earth would I buy a worse version of a game I can easily emulate? Why? It even has a worse script and even worse, I have to deal with pandering to troons. For SIXTY bucks? Fuck off with that shit.

SMRPG was a good remake because it just re-did everything and made it a new way to play.
TTYD is just a remaster with pointless changes that leaves most of the game untouched.

2026 will be the year Nintendo immediately recuperates thanks to Pokemon, whose 10th generation, 30th anniversary celebration and Switch 2 debut ALL rolled up into a single pair of games will rake in over 30 million copies sold, guaranteed.

He's not the one coping, retard

Because if everyone pirates TTYD, Nintendo will understand the market wants more Origami King.

But also, buying and supporting TTYD Remake means you support the complete and utter pussification of how you're allowed to use words, and especially support trannies.
So it's a lose-lose no matter what.

Bug fables is better

It literally just proves my point. Despite being a new game Echoes of Wisdom won't come close to the sales of a remake because it released way too late.
And obviously Paper Mario as a series isn't even in the same ballpark as Zelda in popularity, but you know that already.

True.
There are many reasons as to why TTYD remake flopped, but for me, it's saturation.
Releasing 3 Mario RPG games within 12 months was a mistake. They should've spread out the release dates of SMRPG, TTYD and Brothership.

You want me to be honest? I don't think Nintendo with their current aesthetic policies is capable of making something even remotely like the original two Paper Marios. They have friction against the clean image they're going for. Even if the remake sold well, you really expect me to believe that if they can fuck up the charming nature of a Mario & Luigi game, they can pull off a Paper Mario?

If the remake was any indication, they are STILl on that irritatingly clean aesthetic. It doesn't inspire confidence. I don't want just a new Paper Mario game. I want an authentic Paper Mario game.

Yeah just like how late ds games, late wii games, late 3ds games, late wii u games, all sold less. Why are normalfags like this? Why do they stop buying games halfway through a generation?

They are losing fuel with zoomers and more since people play more on pc/phones now and realized they can find more cute mascots/platform games for 1/10 the price

Treehouse will keep censoring games regardless if you bought TTYD or not. It's been going on for a decade already, at least since FE Fates.

Emio the Smiling Man is the closest thing to a risky and abraisive Nintendo game in a while and no one bought it.

You can change the music back to the original

You'll still get a lot of the new gay tracks, anon.

Not really, they took away a boob jiggle but made the alcohol more accurate and added more leg.

Fuck you

Nope, 60

Objectively wrong

I like Nintendo's games but I do agree somewhat, none of the releases this year interested me. There's the Peach game, the Zeldas, Endless Ocean (apparently worse than other games in its series), a Mario vs DK remake (whatever), Emio (actually remotely interesting), the TTYD remake and Brothership, but the only ones I see myself trying are Brothership and Emio, and I doubt either will even be that good.
I was talking about Super Mario RPG, anon, not TTYD.

If the remake was any indication, they are STILl on that irritatingly clean aesthetic. It doesn't inspire confidence

THANK YOU
Fuck all retards who thought a new Paper Mario would be a good thing

I'm retarded. I kneel.

Because as soon as its true nature as another installment in a Japan-only Famicom series was unearthed, people stopped caring aside from nostalgic boomers who grew up on those games literal decades ago.
Emio only drew a universal audience in because the "Who is Emio?" teaser was so unlike anything Nintendo's done in a very long time if ever, and everything after that was very much standard Nintendo.

I think brothership has a higher chance of doing better, since it’s a new game + it’s being released in November, so it’ll get a boost from holiday sales
All the titles this year are lower budget affairs so they won’t even need to sell even close to the amount of a mainline Mario to turn a profit

it's a huge success

it beat.... uh.... Endless Ocean Luminous, Luigi's Mansion 2 HD, Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition and Emio – The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club

games just aren't selling much anymore

except for the games that are selling.

Why would I buy a worse version of a game I already bought?

b-b-b-but if you don't buy the remake how will they know that you would buy a good game?

If they can't shit out a good game when 95% of the work was already done for them what hope do they have of shitting out a good game when they have to do it all from scratch themselves?

Can't fat-shame or call people "crazy."
Fuck this DEI crap. Hope that Mario & Luigi Brothership bombs even worse.

it's amazing how tards on this board have zero perspective, remasters aren't high-budgeted releases that need to sell unrealistically high numbers. you also have emulation trannies going "muh 60 frames" as if that's at all relevant. Not all games are made under the same situations, 1 million by itself isn't a "flop"

i played the original on dolphin when this came out lmao

oh, i thought it was something important....

Stonetossfag is also a retard

Like clockwork.

emulation trannies going "muh 60 frames"

The original game was 60 frames. Defending this in 2024 is retarded.

Censored

30 FPS

Visual downgrade

Nobody wanted a remake in the first place.

not really

if it's not important, why change it?

*Laughs in Origami King*

your best bet is bug fables. i highly doubt nintendo will ever make a pm like the first two and definitely not as edgy as ttyd

Hilarious how people can’t express
themselves without uttering buzzwords or slurs

The only real issue is that it doesn't go to 60fps, the rest is just Anon Babble being Anon Babble

another "subtle" culture war, undiagnosed schizoprenia-combined-wth-autism thread

Unacceptable for a Remaster/Remake

There hasn't been a real big seller since Mario Wonder, and even that had little legs for a 2D Mario (I was surprised not to see it in this financial report). Everything since did okay at best, and obviously worse if it had released a couple years earlier.

Welcome to dead internet, anon.
All that's left are people too stubborn to give up on it, the rest is bots and astroturfing grifters, all working with the express purpose of data harvesting each other so their respective companies can make a profit by buying that harvested data and selling it to OTHER data harvesters in an endless chain of transactions.

PM64 deserved the remake treatment more with TTYD mechanics since it’s archaic gameplay wise

i'm listening. shill me on this

Lol. Enjoy your shit artstyle, faggot. I'm sure 30 FPS is less important than this.

There's no culture war here because Paper Mario being dead and raped by Nintendo faggots is more egregious than Treehouse troons removing all mentions of "fat" and "crazy" and their synonyms.

archaic

Not even, PM64 is perfectly serviceable even to this day that the only improvements would be menu optimization. Don't let those faggots touch it, they'll completely neuter its timeless pop-up storybook aesthetic.

Bad game design on the right. It's easy for the player to inadvertently mash through without reading it.

Reminder that they removed these Mario face transitions.

Lotta words to cry for help I cannot give you.

And even then, that's not a Treehouse-exclusive behavior, it's DEI strongarming anyone and everyone to bending the knee, as we see the EXACT SAME PROBLEMS from TTYD Remake in Sonic X Shadow Generations.

Now we wait and see how DKCR HD does compared to Switch Tropical Freeze

You're completely right and more people should boycott any instance of that shit on principle alone.

I'm just saying Paper Mario has 2 decades of built up spite. The "FUCK YOU!" is a lot more personal on Paper Mario grounds than DEI grounds.

Sounds like a filter for people who can't stop themselves from button mashing.

Funnily enough Prime Remastered and Dreamland Deluxe were cheaper in cost

Yeah yeah it’s an old meme so feel free to change it up yourself or anyone

I just hope they fixes all those fuckups in the reveal trailer.

You were ALSO paying for

Better transportation for backtracking

Starting the Pit Trials at Level 50

Invisble Peach’s cute feet plapping on the floor while she sneaks around X-Naut Fortress fixupx.com/HatokTalk/status/1793082807830638863

Starting the Pit Trials at Level 50

Man they fucked up the Pit trials so bad. The entire point was that it was a long gauntlet, you shouldn't be able to retry any fight lmao

OG chad here. Played it on my Wii on a CRT last weekend.

Unironically, adding a new superboss to the end of the pit that you get to fight after Bonetail was probably the cause for the sheer casualization of the pit.

Doesn't he only show up on the second run? There's no reason to casualise the first one

And Mario Party Superstars preceded Jamboree

And all the new soulful animations.

Jamboree

return to form

I still see these retarded Lucky Space flooding the board and ruining the economy.

What will happen:

the next Paper Mario will not go back to the OG formula but will mix some elements of the old games with the new formula

autistic TTYDfags will cry that it's not enough and will boycott the game regardless

Nintendo will realize that it's not worth catering to these screeching retards and the Paper Mario series will move on without them

Nice visuals bro!

Isn’t jamboree mid?

Yeah.

bottom looks fantastic

It is

*Raises hand* Hi anon! How are you doing today? :D

That's it?
That's the complaints?

Literally Crash and Spyro you shithead. Yes, Anon Babble hated it but that's still an example it happened.
Maybe the problem is Nintendo doesn't do what other game companies will do.

If true then fuck NOE

That ain’t Bug Fables idiot

Holy soulless

Also they got rid of “END OF CHAPTER” in conjunction with the controller rumbling to send home the fact that that you fucking did it

Highest rated Mario Party. Cope.

Hey anon, what’s a DEI again?

xe takes video game reviews seriously

What a fucking retard

A legion is 1000. That's nearly 2000 legions.

Nobody cares about game reviewers anymore

Can someone give me a QRD on the drama surrounding this character? Was it a tranny or not?

Not in the original, yes in the remake (original Japanese version explicitly states he's actually a guy, new version is like she's trans and respect her pronouns, chud!)

"it only sold two million, what a fucking FLOPPED and SHITTED"

Original JP Script

Crossdressing boy.

NoA GameCube Localization

Girl.

Treehouse Switch Localization

Tranny, but only alluded to in a single line of dialogue that only makes sense if you know the character's history across localizations. Said line of dialogue is never built up to prior, and never brought up again after.
The only reason troons think Vivian is one of them is because they completely ignore the sheer diversity of Japan's forms of self-expression by diluting most of them down to "that's a tranny", so when they saw all those years ago that the Italian localization of the GC version interpreted her as a tranny, they took it and ran with it ever since.

flop

Sold better than Astro Bot

Sold better than Stellar Blade

Sold better than Rebirth

Sold better than Concord

new version is like (clown extreme that doesn't happen)

lol get over it you would have been slobbering over vivian being a """trap""" ten years ago

sold better than four notorious flops

woah

The original version was just some horny jap's fetish.
NoA, experiencing a golden age of video game localization at the time, made the right decision to just remove all references to it.
Now modern NoA, being filled with woke virtue signaling talentless hacks, and not realizing that the original depiction of the character was actually offensive as fuck, decided to put it back in.

TLDR: play the original english localization because it's the best version.

t. ranny

A lot of the rewrites are more accurate though.

NO they aren't retard, they're the Gamecube version with censorship added. They didn't retranslate from Japanese

Vivian is trans in the original, however the way they treat trans characters in 2005 was to call them "really a guy" and get all uncomfortable and shit. She basically gets treated exactly like Birdo did before they retconned the whole trans angle. In the original US release they never address it and she's just a girl and in the remake they got rid of all of the jokes or mentions of it besides the one line in her initial conversation with Mario.

The gamecube version was really localized and not translated accurately.

You've been parroting this for months, but you've yet to offer any indicator you have a fluent understanding of Japanese, nor do you wish to show comparisons between NoA Switch, JP Switch and GC Switch to prove this claim as well as your fluency in the language.

GC Switch

Fucking hell, meant JP GameCube.

You have no idea what you're talking about, that's how they handled any tranny in anything Japanese forever. "A girl who's really a boy".

i make claim

you have to provide deep and detailed analysis to prove me wrong from every possible angle of attack

not how it works lol
get fucked, cuck

inb4 "otokonoko", a slang term that didn't exist at the time of TTYD's release

You're also extremely eager to claim Vivian as a "trans rep win" when the character's entire existence started as a punchline.
The Three Shadows are supposed to be a typical trio of seductive mages of the dark arts, and yet, despite this...

Beldam is a bitch hag, not attractive at all

Marilyn is a fat retard, not attractive at all

Vivian actually looks cute and acts reasonable, but in actuality has a penis instead of a vagina. That's the punchline. LAUGH.

And the new version is literally just the GC version with censorship, faggot

for months

i just got in this thread

your fluency

do you have any fluency? a lot of these silly ways of talking and english speaking slang definitely doesn't exist in japanese. "Hey hey, ladies and germs!" is an immediate example.

I enjoy it, but if they just gave us the option to turn off certain spaces or something it would be so much better.

femboy cissies still think a little bit of transphobic language from regressive 2004 Japan completely invalidates a trans character's identity and makes her non-trans

guitar henk. tuff nut

Nobody gives a shit about that kind of localization. That's not what we're discussing.

remaster made in a desert with a box of scraps

casually sells better than Rebirth launch aligned

The Paper won't waver

Enjoy your shit artstyle

he says about the game about the game with hundreds of improvements to the visuals

the remake is so much better in 90% of the extra details, die mad

I care.

why is the sun in front of the mountains

That's outside the scope of these issues

So the character is just a male crossdresser that trannies are copting and pretending is trans?

You're a 80 IQ mouthbreather if you think that. New sprites are fine. The rest is shit.

might emulate this
was there a mod fixing the censorship?

The original version was just some horny jap's fetish.

Okama/crossdresser is a staple of japanese comedy, common even in childrens media. Nothing necessarily fetishistic about it.

NoA, experiencing a golden age of video game localization at the time, made the right decision to just remove all references to it.

All censorship is bad. Some european versions actually traslated it correcly. America on the other hand was always cancer, back then they censored it because you can't have a gay crossdresser in a videogame, now they censored it because you can't have an offensive trans depiction in a videogame (despite Vivian not even being a tranny). The more things change, the more they stay the same.

cause the people who made these graphics gave 0 shits just like every modern remaster

no the character identifies as a girl
go to the bathroom, you are shitting yourself

Rake in 120 million dollars on a remake that cost a fraction of that

Flop

Did the english version of the switch remake make Vivian a troon or did they just keep it censored?

Precisely. People forget that Japan has always been a fan of bashing on faggots, the concept of a tranny was the last things on their mind because they thought it would be hilarious if this little gay boy existed AND started crushing on Mario.

sun is in front of mountains

mountains unaffected by the heat distortion

the heat distortion looks weird as fuck and unnatural

mountains have less detail

lol

Dev budget $5 to port it over

2 million sales

publisher is literally the #1 company in japan

"""flop"""

NoA also censored a line about lolis in BOTW and a reference to porn in Xenoblade 3

censorship concern trolls bitch about vivian being le troon regardless of language on ideological grounds now, since her sex being male everywhere outside of the US and english derived locations is "sonic's first level is green hill zone" level of dumb trivia question

tl;dr no it's not censored in the switch version, she states now that she has a penis

Nothing necessarily fetishistic about it.

She does kiss mario etc. the jokes are sexual in nature so there is a degree of fetishism and sexualization.

All censorship is bad

No it isn't. NoA made the game better by removing it.

the BOTW line changed purah's diary complaint to be her assistant fussing over her because she looks like a toddler instead of the original pedophilic fussing

Reminder that NoA pressured NoJ to censor rewrite the japanese version of TTYD's switch remake as well

le heckin' all-powerful but weak and tiny Enemy
le Infiltrator and Saboteur
le heckin' american wing overtaking japan, confusing nintendo with sony ironically

The changes in the japanese version are still different from the "localization" and still don't imply that Vivian is a tranny. That's western fanfiction only.

She does kiss mario etc

So? That's the joke, and not an uncommon one. You claimed that whoever made the videogame put Vivian in because that was their fetish, which is a baseless assumption.

No it isn't.

Eat shit.

No. In the remake they use the exact same wording that japanese trans people use to describe themselves

There's no other reason to include such a character. You're really trying to argue that japan of all places makes characters like that for non-sexual reasons? lol

You're also extremely eager to claim Vivian as a "trans rep win"

Not sure what part of my post implied this in any way. It's not about a win or a loss. I don't care about your agenda or anyone else's. I care about accurate translations in gaming. It is a punchline but Vivian is a tranny punchline or not.

No. In the remake they use the exact same wording that japanese trans people use to describe themselves

False. Vivian say "I have the heart of a girl", which is a phrase commonly used by okama characters (Leeron has literally the same exact line in TTGL). Doesn't indicate that Vivian is trans in any way whatsoever.

See you even know the wording. That's what japanese trans people say, sorry buddy.

Kill yourself.

See you even know the wording

And you don't anything about the cultural context.
But I'm pretty sure you're just trolling at this point.

This is true, and retards will deny it

NoA...

cope

And do you know what theyve DONE with that enternity? They havent even gotten back to what they had in 1450, and they get to be lorded around by the ventrue.

youtu.be/oAFsShNi6dE?t=337

Is... is that a lucky space??? BILLIONS MUST DIE

This, unironically.

what the fuck

Time to take a break from this website anon

people are seething over the salute

meanwhile ignoring what happened to the gallows

These motherfuckers need to stop trying to make everything into crude paper cutouts just because it's Paper Mario. That just looks bad.

is he hieling teh fuhrers