Karlach vs Taash

Who is the better companion?

Karlach, duh.

Both look and act like tranny ass bitches

my cinnamon roll wife Karlach, of course. She's built for big human cock and meant to pop out kids

Except trash can't even get art from tranny chasers.

Is this some dumb marketing ploy? Are you on drugs? Why not try a more realistic comparison, like karlach vs that greek gigazangief or trash vs the dude from shotgun roulette.

idk how you can even compare them, one is cute, funny, quirky and reddit (which is ok), the other complains about genders all day. I don't get the hate boner for Karlach

I played with friends in BG3. I didn't use the origin characters

both are reddit incarnate

Both are fucking insufferable

But you can kill the first one at least
Instantly made the game 90% less insufferable

Left

Attractive face

Huge thighs and ass

Pegs you

Is just a tomboy woman

Right

Ugly face

Forces pronouns on you 24/7

Autistic retard that can't talk properly

Is a straight up non-binary thing

The choice is obvious

This. The choice is clear

Karlach is pretty reddit but holy shit is she the MUCH better option, like unless you're actually fucking gay and retarded it's not even a competition.

The woman.

karlach is a big strong demon woman that just wants to be a normal girl with a husband, but is forced to be a war machine. i love my wife.

That thing on the right has one of the ugliest faces I've ever seen. It's like they face scanned some goblino from an LA ghetto. Karlach is actually attractive and that alone puts her above the other creature.

I dislike both games but yes bg3 wins just because of that

My cute girlfriend Karlach, obviously. We have leglock creampie sex daily

Liking "muscle mommies" is unironically the gayest thing after being fucked in the ass.

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Karlach and it can't even be a comparison.
Karlach is likeable while that they/them is literally one of the worst things the game has.

go on dinner date with karlach

sweet and emotional personal time, a little gasp of life before her impending doom

go on a dinner date with taash and xir mom

"So, I'm non-binary"

The superior brash and tomboyish fiendfu

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Karlach

A normal girl with zero issues regarding her sexuality who was forced into a role she fucking hates and just wants to become normal again and have family and kids

Trash

Angry obnoxious dragonkin OC donut steel who can't shut up about being a tranny

quite telling of you to say that while posting a reaction pic of the joker

Annah is closer to Shadowheart. The bitchier Shadowheart from early EA. She even has a trickery domain.

the big shit i had yesterday was better than those two

but you can le kill it

tired of this lame cope
good RPGs don't have companions written so shit you want to murder them

Pics or it didn't happen.

This guy has clearly done some gay shit

Seeing it is a good sign the russian lolcow is here though so it has its merits. He was always trying to bargain with Anon Babble using that canard.

Taash is a reflection of Anon Babble.

writes like a schitzo

talks like an autist

completely cold and sarcastic about anything except her hyperfixation (dragons)

mad a mum for making her tendies

mad at mum for making her hang out with people

mad at mum for making her dress

her mum has to set her up

she's mummy's special boy (female)

Who is the better companion?

uhh... you must be joking, Karlach obviously

implying i don't usually kill 3-5 of the companions from Rogue Trader

Left is at least fuckable but I'm quite confident its personality is goddamn horrid. Right is not only one of the ugliest creations in gaming history but has an even worse personality to match it. Either way in my mind, both BG3 and DAV aren't games I would put any sort of investment in, willingly or not. Hell you could pay me 100,000 dollars to play them both and I'd reject the offer.

her

her

her

her

she

It's THEY, shitlord

BG3 is beyond terrible.

Give three good and I mean "good" reasons why.

Your bargaining will always fail.

dragonirian tries replying with demands again

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Left is at least fuckable but I'm quite confident its personality is goddamn horrid.

She's one of the only companions that's actually likeable

Bioware trannies are soo booty blasted that everyone hates their EA sponsored tranny shit that they are now attacking Baldur's Gate 3 KEK!

don't know. didn't play either. I'm straight. If you played either you aren't.

The Uninstall Wizard.

Sir, do not FUCKING COMPARE

dragonirian tries posting

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

both tranny shit

dragonirian

Wasn't he the one spamming the tencent crap?

karlach actually has a pussy so she wins by default

I'm twenty hours into the game and have done dozens of quests, when do I actually meet this companion?

Neither. Karlach talks and behaves like some tumblr comic character and Taash looks like some Indian using a tiktok filter. Both of their games would be objectively better if they weren't in it.

He's a lolcow.

Even bioware's own subreddit hates traash

Left is also a possible tradwife. She's the one that calls you a degenerate if you try to get her to "open the relationship" and into a theeesome while not giving a shit about her feelings. I think frog does the same thing, and for that matter redeemed shadowheart whitehair - only shar evil shadowheart and some of the others are kind of into it.

Pegs you

it's just amazonian position

Karlach talks and behaves like some tumblr comic character

I will never understand this take, she's just an easygoing goofball who wants to enjoy life

You've never seen the actual tumblr characters

Same with hitler.

While we're talking about Karlach here, did they ever patch in her "good" ending? At release I remember reading how basically the 'neutral" ending is thebest you can get but flagged sa good due to a bug and unfinished shit. Much like all of the fancy part of the upper city being cut out, so was the Karlach "best' ending ..did they fix and add it back in?

lol

Realistically, can Karlach be saved after a trip to Hell? I don't think a party of characters capable of raping Sarevok will get much trouble there.

Not him but for me personally the combat was unbearably boring. And I liked DoS 2. The story was also forgettable

Ok that's two critiques. More than I'd get out of this board anyway.

pretty sure in the recent patches she has a much better ending where she is pretty much saved if you let her go to hell

Both act and talk like Berkeley students who just got isekai'd.
Utter trash.

My balls both on your eyes you fucking faggot!
And theirs!

Both of their games would be objectively better if they weren't in it.

Wyll is the worst part of BG3

I am unironically not actually meme'ing or baiting when I say this, BUT:

Aside from the tranny stuff? Taash is a better and more well written character and personality than Karlach is, straight up. Granted, very low bar and Karlach was allegedly a better character in early access.

If you play as Gale you can save her once you ascend.

Jack has literally nothing to do with those two, neither her personality nor her design are remotely similar

She needs to get rid of the infernal engine, killing devils isn't the problem

left at least looks like a lesbian, right is just a fucking man

What we hate most is our reflection.

she's just an easygoing goofball who wants to enjoy life

Yes anon. The person who was a slave soldier in hell for demons for a decade is a heckin' goofy chungus! It's absolutely HORRIFIC writing.

BG3 is so good and DAV is so baaad. How did Bioware manage to create such a turd of a game?

They're Canadian.

Yeah, why would someone living on borrowed time want to try to be happy and live what little life they have left to the fullest? So stupid

Tiefling lady that wants to fix the thing in her chest so I can mating press her into the dirt.

vs

Writer self insert that exists only to talk about her gender and nothing else.

lol

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why would someone living on borrowed time want to try to be happy and live what little life they have left to the fullest?

Anon, she was a slave soldier. In hell. She should be ten layers deep in trauma and coping mechanisms. Only a truly hideously stupid millennial writer would write a character who was forced to fight wars as a slave for objectively evil beings for a DECADE comes out of the experience being a sweetheart.

Act 1 should have been entirely about Karlach being fucked up and having trouble relating or connecting with the party. She can become a chungus later but the way she just starts out the way she is? No. Absolutely not.

was forced to fight wars as a slave for objectively evil beings for a DECADE

And is level 1 to show for it.

gallose

Gallows? You foreigners are so lulzy.

Ah that explains it.

SweetBaby is Canadian

Canadians ruined Ubisoft

Canadians push trannies in media

The tadpole reset everyone to level 1. Your character was literally a demi-god lead assassin of bhaal. Gale is an ancient archmage. Astarian is a vamp-spawn. Karlach is a blood war veteran and Wyll stopped Tiamat from being resummoned to the prime. Everyone in BG3 was basically a late-game superhero before being brain'd by Illithid.

Yeah that too but I'm pretty sure the tadpoles explain that away in all cases.

Yeah something like that. Anything other than what we got. Karlach feels like a SUPER authentic DnD 5E character in that her backstory is badass as fuck and the way she behaves is indistinguishable from a fat dangerhair redditor woman. She's a perfect exmaple of the real DnD experience

Fat retard who can't into RP

Makes a "badass" character with a "badass" backstory

Proceeds to just act like a modern millenial human in every situation ever

I'd call it ludokino if they were TRYING to make fun of "that player" who sucks at RP. They aren't though, it's just bad millennial writing.

I was mostly just making a joke about how often DnD characters will have these ridiculous backstories in which they are a great conqueror or something despite being brand new level 1 characters.

The D&D level system shouldn't even be considered a part of the story, it's just a gay limitation of the system

Gale has godhood reactivity if you play as him?

There is no hateboner for karlach. She is indeed reddit, but she's still well liked everywhere, Anon Babble included, and all bg3 companions are infinitely better than whatever trash shitguard has

Realistically no, despite who Karlach is. And it should be said what she is. Karlach is a PC, which means at Level 1 she's stronger and more capable than an olympic athlete multiplied by ten. She is Zariel's most capable mortal operator and Zariel herself is the overlord of this slice of Hell - Avernus.

Karlach's life was already forfeit the moment she left Avernus - Zariel sent mortal agents to kill her. Returning to Avernus just makes it all the more easier to kill her. Zariel isn't going to spare her or return her to her employment because just like in the real world it's almost impossible to trust something that quits. In a sense, Karlach violated the contract of her enslavement by running and the penalty is pretty much always death.

The only realistic happy ending for Karlach in Hell is if for some reason the House of Hope in Avernus is "sacred" ground in the sense Zariel granted the place diplomatic immunity as a gift to Mephistopheles regardless whether Raphael was there or not. Because that sort of deal would require the house to be magically protected so Zariel wouldn't have to worry about some random dipshit in Avernus violating the house. Because Mephistopheles or anybody isn't going to rest their head in the house if any stupid asshole Zariel included could just walk in and kill everyone inside on a whim.

So Hope lives there now and owns the house, which obeys her, because it wouldn't make any sense to stay otherwise if Zariel or Mephistopheles could fuck her up, which they certainly would want to. And so it would only make sense this is the only place Karlach could also be safe in Avernus and should have been the implication when she went back that you, her and Wyll would've had to fight their way to the house immediately (after killing the Netherbrain).

There is no hateboner for karlach

Wrong. There's a huge hateboner for her because she's horrifically badly written. The thing is, there's tons of coomers who just want snu-snu.

The D&D level system shouldn't even be considered a part of the story

It should actually.

Yes.

Ok, but I don't think even snu-snu chasers are gonna like traash

comparing Karlach to post transition handsome squidward

it'll be like bg3 where people hate the game entirely not just isolated characters.

only time I had her in my party I immediately hated and replaced her

even having her prance around naked showing off her ass 24/7 couldn't make up for how annoying she was

That's exactly the thing. Because Karlach is ostensibly just a badly written but hot as fuck demoness, she gets the pass for midwits and coombrains. Traash is a LGBTQIA+ shitshow and that spoils her for 90% of players so not even midwits and coombrains are gonna latch on.

Both are gay and shit.
The last good RPG to come out was "Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines". Everything after that is shit and only get worst.

To be fair, that happened to everyone.

always karlach AAAAAAAAAAH

If you've actually played both games, you'd know that Taash is a better character in every way. They have a personality beyond just Reddit. They have an actual character arc, actual interests, and goals. They're a genuinely character.

the "good" ending is going back to Avernus with her, the epilogue says she's found a facility that might be able to fix her heart for good down there

That's cool. Maybe i will actually play as him.

Your level is literally part of your character, it does matter. It's not just for dice mechanics.

Karlach's legs and ass

promises to ride you so hard you will see stars

aside from the tranny stuff

That's the entirety of her character.

played through BG3 in co-op with a friend

friend mostly just wanted the quirky companion interactions and dialogue/options stat checks

went around having fun figuring out how to solo combats while my friend had fun playing a noncombatant diplomat and seducing the characters

I'm about 20 hours into the game and even though she's insufferable, I'm actually bound to agree.
Karlach is literally le wholesome chungus and she is tacked on to the campaign
I romanced her, I liked her, but she doesn't really have a purpose in the story
Taash seems like a really important player, being our lone Dragon hunter and all
She seems like a far more important piece of the narrative
Her voice actress is an ugly ass asian tranny but I kind of like the way she sounds

lame cope

The amount of games that just saddle you with dogshit companions that are immortal is abjectly too much and any games that let me hollow out a horrible side characters skull deserves atleast a tiny thanks for that freedom

You liked shar'teel?

This is how leftie slippery slope works. Constantly introducing more degenerate shit to make old degenerate shit seem normal.
Karlach was an insuferrable riddit character when bg3 released. Now davg releases actual troonmaxx gender shit slurper and brands Karlach normal and everything less annoying than Karlach is now nazi right wing propaganda.

Karlach because she gives you a prostate massage while she milks you into her mouth. That's true love right there.

tired of seeing this bot post.
Having the freedom to kill anything is a base requirement of RPGs that has been flushed down the shitter in recent years

Taash seems like a really important player,

She isn't. Her contribution when the party discovers the truth about Solas's past and the Blight and everything, is

There's a dragon in this story? Nice.

Both are disgusting trannies but karlach is less explicit about it
also this

Bioware trannies are so delusional that they are defending trash.

How would you fix Taash without turning her into Karlach 2?

They are the same picture.

she doesn't narratively contribute to the Siege of Weisshaupt at all, when there is a dragon fucking everything up
She tells you about a dragon nest she wants to check out for a connection to the blighted dragons the gods are using, but instead uses it as an opportunity to come out as non-binary to you

Her, Emmerich, and Lucanis feel pretty irrelevant in general

Karlach is a woman.

Trash is a ''woman''.

The more you know.

Role-playing games

Good RPGs don't allow for a different roles to be played

You're a redditor so you don't get it. You and your manjawed sperg waifu are despised by people with taste.

First off, either remove the non-binary plot entirely or make it subtextual/allegorical by playing into the dragon/firebreathing thing
Second, make her a bit more mature. She's supposed to be an experienced dragon hunter but she acts like a literal child.
Third, give her huge fuckin titties and fix her ugly face
Fourth, either recast her voice actor or give her current voice actor a better microphone

people with taste.

Anon Babbleedditors? loled

They are normalfags who spent their whole lives playing games where the epitome of roleplaying is to either save the world and do everyone's taxes or kill and rape everyone you meet. The kind of "people" who thought blowing up Megaton in Fallout 3 was cool. They can't grasp actual roleplay.
I theorize that they are parroting people smarter than them who used being able to kill practically anyone as a point of praise for good RPGs like New Vegas, but they never realized that this feature is a bare minimum required to be considered anything near a proper RPG, not a be all end all crowning achievement of an RPG.

She's supposed to be an experienced dragon hunter but she acts like a literal child

I don't see a issue here. A lot of people who know their stuff act like literal children, it's called autism

Not him but the thing you fail to realize due to your very limited comprehension is that it is indeed a BASE requirement. Not something that can be used as a one size fits all excuse for being a shit game with shit writing and shit dialog and shit characters and shit roleplaying freedom because "OH BUT YOU HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN HAVING GAY SEX AND LE KILLING LE EVERYONE". This BASIC feature is elevated as some sort of ultimate beacon of roleplaying.

Basically this, choice matters.

WELP

blowing up Megaton in Fallout 3 was cool

But it was cool?

No u!

Childish.

she does finger male chars in her sex scenes

yeah umm......her sex scene is a little strange.

question mark at the end of a sentence that is a statement and not a question

Transgender behavior.

Might be better if that act of hers is cope

That's precisely what it is.

She's cheerful and high energy and when you talk to her about her condition she makes it sound like she has made peace with her fate.
But if she's there when you off Gortash she has an emotional breakdown, the mask finally slips and you see that underneath that cheery attitude all the bullshit she's been through has never stopped eating away at her and all that anger and despair comes out.

an actual interesting nuanced character vs. the most obnoxious tumbler they/them caricature that could possibly exist

lol
lmao

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the one on the right has made me feel uncomfortable while watching some dragon age clips. What do they call piss bottles in they's culture?

You can't tell me lariantrannies are so pathetic that they actually think themselves real men after settling for a manjawed sperg who shoves things uo their arseholes. Surely there MUST be a bottom for you lot to hit eventually.

but anon, i am the bottom that wants to be hit

she was clearly meant to be written as an angsty teen grappling with their gender identity, I don't think any implication of autism was intended. They just did a shit job of it and made her whiny. Making her live with her mother is probably a big contributing factor there.

See Bellara for the intentionally autistic character.

It's a video game cuz
Not serious business

the mask finally slips and you see that underneath that cheery attitude all the bullshit she's been through has never stopped eating away at her and all that anger and despair comes out.

The mask is completely and offensively unrealistic. She should struggle to even ATTEMPT a mask, she was a slave for demons in hell. For a decade. And she's not very old overall. A huge chunk of her life has been abject suffering for and at the hands of objectively evil beings.

Act 1 should be an attempt to stop acting like she's still in Avernus. Act 2 should be this "mask" taking shape and Act 3 can be the mask slipping and cracking under pressure.

If you don't understand that her starting position is wrong and therefore undermines everything else, you can't be helped.

Bellara owes me sex

Reminder that Karlach could've been SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE

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nah, her being incredibly happy and excited to be out of Avernus is a perfectly acceptable way for her to start her character arc

I accept your concession

Come on company wars. you should realize I don't fap to humanoids anymore really, and I'm not the only one here.

If you put a hot model tier sheboon face on Taash I'd be more willing to give HER a chance
I think everyone would be a lot happier with their inclusion if THEY were a bad bitch and not an ugly nigger looking monster tranny

you play game how you want not how devs want
you are trying to dismiss argument cos you dont have any counters and are coping hard
starshit schitzo

I reject your gangrenous smell.

Looks like ww2 propaganda posters.
She couldn't be worse we got the literal worst interpretation possible.

A good RPG would let you kill characters. What, just cause you have hours of dialogue suddenly you're too important? Fuck off.

the literal worst interpretation possible

what a retarded thing to say, she could have been a man (with the same lines)

le racist asian caricature

yeah yeah yeah
I have yellow fever though

her being incredibly happy and excited to be out of Avernus is a perfectly acceptable way for her to start her character arc

I didn't say she can't be happy. I'm saying she needs to be absolute mentally and emotionally SHATTERED by her experiences. She should have some sort of mad dog persona she used to ow demons that tried to fuck with her in the armies of Zariel. She should be a nasty, horrible person or incredible taciturn and quiet or SOMETHING. Anything other than being immediately affable and friendly.

Astarion is happy to have had the vampire curse effects removed and he still manages to be anti-social and damaged in a way that befits his backstory. Some of the writing team was capable of writing that kind of nuance. Not Sarah Hylund or whatever her name was

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I thought she was cute until I listened to her talk (and talk and talk and talk and talk)

what are you even saying tranny? that freedom in rpgs = bad? are you going to say that bg3 together with new vegas arent rpgs with mad interactivity where player has most control over events?
I dont even understand what you are trying to say, its just nonsense.

Come on company wars.

Not actual company wars. I am not loyal to any company, although I can see why you would assume that, since there is this fake rivalry between owlcucks and lariantrannies, the same exact company that for some reason has two different names and playerbases that think the other side is somehow different.
I'm calling you lariantrannies because larian in general is a cringe company with cringe games written and directed by cringe cunts.

you should realize I don't fap to humanoids anymore really, and I'm not the only one here.

No idea how this is relevant. And no desire to find out, to be honest.

She's my #1
I don't mind her dialogue
In fact, I like listening to her talk with Harding

its starshit schitzo hes seething hard since trannyguard flopped, he really likes bioware

I will never understand why this concept is so foreign to devs these days.

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Overrated trash vs overdiscussed trash

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what are you even saying tranny? that freedom in rpgs = bad? are you going to say that bg3 together with new vegas arent rpgs with mad interactivity where player has most control over events?

I dont even understand what you are trying to say, its just nonsense.

you think Larian and Owlcat are the same company?

Honestly baulders gate/divinity characters from
Larian are all dog shit and ugly, none of them are compelling or good in anyway and barely fuckable.

retard literally defending having less choice in rpgs, killing characters = bad now. lol. hes mad with cope.

I accept your concession

lol
lmao

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seethe tranny
trannyguard flopped, on rails experience where player has no control is shit. read a fucking book.

*Baldur's Gate 2, but nice try faggot

what are you trying to say? can you talk you disgusting trannoid? explain yourself in non-contradictory way.

I'm saying she needs to be absolute mentally and emotionally SHATTERED by her experiences

She wasn't kept in a kennel and zapped with cattle prods for ten years straight you fucking autist, she was a slave soldier put on the front lines and was excellent enough at it to be considered one of Zariel's best and most prized fighters. It's still horrible but you act like she was being tortured and raped 24/7 for years and needs to be a broken blubbering mess because of it

I came across this one nigger who unironically called this whitewashing, I'm not even joking.

bg2 is a shit overrated shit, even nwn2 was better and it was pretty shit as well

If she was able to not only survive fighting in the Blood War for a decade but also rise to become Zariel's champion I think it's safe to say she's mentally pretty strong.
And when she finally manages to escape she tries to make the most of her freedom.

Your take is ridiculously reductive. If you spent what you presumed would be an eternity in Infernus and suddenly fell out and your collar was shattered, it would make effectively no sense for you to not feel anything but incomparable bliss in your new station. One can only imagine if you were a death row inmate who, for no reason, just fell out of a prison bus in the outskirts of a major city, they didn't turn the bus around to get you, and only some police officers even remembered who you were after your years of being stuck in a box you knew there wasn't any way out of, what other response would there be but incomparable joy and a desire to run around and indulge in your new freedom?

She wasn't kept in a kennel and zapped with cattle prods for ten years straight you fucking autist

It's hell, they're demons. There absolutely was some level of torture and casual cruelty.

was excellent enough at it to be considered one of Zariel's best and most prized fighters

It's hell. Everybody is trying to eat everybody else. Being highly prized actually just assures that she had the attention of lots of ambitious and evil people who would seek to undermine her physically and emotionally by any means necessary.

It's still horrible but you act like she was being tortured and raped 24/7 for years and needs to be a broken blubbering mess because of it

Being an enslaved soldier usually breaks people for life anon. In this case we're talking about an enslaved soldier fighting in hell for demons, against demons. All of whom are objectively incapable of acts of mercy, kindness or gentleness. She should be absolutely fucked up.

whole chungus > xhe/them

Yeah she cute. I also like grandpa necromancer

I accept your concession

seethe tranny

trannyguard flopped, on rails experience where player has no control is shit. read a fucking book.

what are you trying to say? can you talk you disgusting trannoid? explain yourself in non-contradictory way.

it would make effectively no sense for you to not feel anything but incomparable bliss in your new station.

Yeah, emotional scarring is horrible and tends to ruin lives. It's brutal stuff.

incomparable joy and a desire to run around and indulge in your new freedom?

Doesn't mean she'd do it with the demeanor of a heckin' reddit chungus. That's all. She spent TEN YEARS surviving the armies of the hells. That's who we met. Somebody who hasn't spoken to somebody with an non-evil alignment in a DECADE. She shouldn't be nice and friendly right away.

Ye.

Inb4 lariantrannies itt are so low IQ they take that statement literally

it would make effectively no sense for you to not feel anything but incomparable bliss in your new station

no it wouldn't, you retard. you would be absolutely terrified of everything and everyone all of the time. unless your psychology works nothing like a human's, but in that case how are we supposed to empathize with her since apparently her mind is nowhere like ours and her responses to things don't make any sense?

Bellara, Harding, Emmrich and I think Davrin are the best and I don't mind their presence
Lucanis was okay at first I guess but then he got pissed that I didn't save his city so I've just kind of been ignoring him
Neve and Taash are just disgusting to look at

he's retarded and you are absolutely based and correct.

BG3 and New Vegas are the pinnacle of RPGs

Your level is literally part of your character, it does matter.

No.

Davrin actually surprised me but boy I wish he would talk about literally anything other than "gosh I sure hope I can raise my griffon son right"

I agree, Karlach's personality and Karlach's narrative are completely disconnected
It's a shame because I think most of the characters are pretty well done especially Lae'zel

tourist hasn't played dnd

not even surprising.

Why did you post this webm of yourself and your wife

It was nice to be able to tell him to let Abbas breathe and be himself though, he's being far too protective and sheltering of the griffon and like you said, I'm pleasantly surprised that he's not annoying and is just a Black dude.

holy shit, I remember you. you're still going about karlach not wallowing in depression?

Yeah, emotional scarring is horrible and tends to ruin lives. It's brutal stuff.

you would be absolutely terrified of everything and everyone all of the time. unless your psychology works nothing like a human's

There is context behind why that emotional scarring tends to ruin lives. It's not simply "Bad thing happened, now I'm ruined forever", it's a breach of potential future interactions and permanent reminders that the source of your scars can always happen again. A rape victim isn't in a state of despair because they were raped at some point in their life, they are scarred permanently because the threat of rape lurks around every corner, and every relationship they make from that point on carries with it the risk of repeating that trauma again. Soldiers with extreme PTSD from being on the frontlines struggle with it in various ways, but the knowledge that they never need to return to those battlefields brings countless soldiers comfort as soon as they return home. If you have a tour in hell, and you finally escape it, your trauma is related to Avernus and its demons/devils, not fucking every random person you run across. That's why Karlach very explicitly wanted to murder those disguised "Paladins" in the hut and instantly went on a berserk spree after killing them, because THEY were the source of her anguish. Other than that, killing them and feeling the freedom from the actual source of your problems is the liberating euphoria I'm describing. You two know nothing about psychology, emotional scars, or anything even vaguely related to either.

Liking a woman with a body that looks able to survive pregnancy and birth with minimal problems and can take care of herself and our child while I'm out hunting is somehow gay

You wouldn't survive the Stone Age

This is not a joke, a consensus is indeed forming that Traash is the better character of the two.

why didnt you put a spoiler on that shit jesus christ

Biotranny astroturfers go home

tranny having a melty after being asked to state his argument and his gender clearly

trannyguard disasterkino keeps on giving

proofs?

Not surprising, bg3 is genuinely hated around here.

consensus have formed that trannyguard failed to outsell dos2, its owl fags you have to bickle with, their games have similiar player numbers to trannyguard

It's hell

Hell or Baator is the biggest and worst bureucracy in the multiverse, but it is still lawful, they follow orders and devils aren't going to torture anyone at a lower rank for no reason. They may well be ordered to, to whip some slacker into shape, but they're nowhere near as bloodthirsty and casually sadistic as chaotic evil demons, because they still actually understand that it's retarded to break their soldiers beyond repair and need them in fighting shape, both mentally and physically.

they're demons

Devils. Huge difference in DnD

Cope anon, your reddit character is beaten by the tumblr character.

Karlach is better
But there actually is some value in the tranny character simply because they represent the most base form of what a tranny is
A hulking, disgusting freak that hates itself and others.

She doesn't need to be depressed. She just needs to have emotional baggage about being a slave soldier for a decade. She doesn't, her whole thing is just being sad she can't give out HECKIN' FREE HUGS TO EVERYBODY and will die eventually.

your trauma is related to Avernus and its demons/devils not fucking every random person you run across

Anon, Gortash betrayed her bigly too. That means anybody could be evil and hurt her and she's had a decade of reinforcement and training to believe that's the case by being abused in hell. She should be completely unabvle to trust AND have emotional mechanisms she built to survive Avernus that she can't just toggle off easily.

You two know nothing about psychology, emotional scars, or anything even vaguely related to either.

Stop projecting faggot. You're disgustingly naive and sheltered.

bickle with

what is with the esls today?

Between what, you and your tulpa?

By a handful of mindbroken trannies, yes, just like with every game that sees any level of success

russian lolcow tries to flamewars

everyone says the answer they know will upset him the most

This place is awesome sometimes.

Safe horny in a nutshell

It's literally the game that built every fuckin CRPG we have now dumbass. Especially not-Divinity OS 3

RTwP is shit

I'm shocked

but it is still lawful, they follow orders and devils aren't going to torture anyone at a lower rank for no reason.

lmao, you're hilarious. They absolutely can torture lower ranks if they want. All lawful evil means is you have to find a kike style legal loophole to be able to stab your friend in the back and get away with it. You really think they're gonna punish you for being too evil to a lower ranking demon? Not unless you do something like steal from them or break a contract.

Huge difference in DnD

Not really. Not from a social or emotional angle.

No its hated by everyone because of a russian shitposter.
The game is really shit, but the hate comes from a lolcow everyone knows makes these threads multiple times a day.

consensus is forming that bioware was always overrated, just compare kotor 1 and 2. compare fucking revan and kreya.

Karlach actually fucks cock like a grown women

No its hated by everyone

No it isn't, schizo

He's right though.

Take your meds, ESL shitskin.
Cope.
Not really, Anon Babbleanons like their woke slop as much as anybody.
People having played both games saying as much.

No you aren't, samefag

He's pretty much right. I like the game I hate the lolcow.

You're doing it again. Its sad you do this when there are memes talking about you doing this.

lmao what a bunch of retarded nonsense
have you heard of dagerfall and migh and magic? ultimas per chance? fallouts and arcanums? I mean actual fallouts?
perhaps you should try actual rpgs before coming up with your retarded childish bullshit "muh bg2". its trash.

Oh sorry I guess I was thinking "fiend" not demon. Whatever, try not to AKSSHULLY me too hard.

All lawful evil means is you have to find a kike style legal loophole to be able to

Yes that's literally what I wrote in the following sentence, retard

Not really. Not from a social or emotional angle.

Nigga go and actually read up on what Hell, the Abyss and its inhabitants are like, there's a reason why the Blood war is a thing

Actually getting offended being told Karlach is written like shit

Fuck off this site, normies. You wanting to fuck her doesn't make her well written in the least.

PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP

There it is.

Screeching "reddit" over and over doesn't make her badly written either, sperg

What a retarded question. I fucking hate Karlach and kill her ass every playthrough but even I know she's the far superior choice over Taash.

As soon as I can mod Taash to look like a super model busty Amazonian, I will do that.

6 seconds after your post is the dragonirian post, anon was correct overall.

Yes that's literally what I wrote in the following sentence, retard

Not really no, all you said is the Devils are more tactical but if somebody wants to climb the ranks, they could tactically make sure Karlach's boots are full of enchanted caltrops and that her reinforcements don't arrive when she was told to expect them. They could bribe a healer to cause her immense pain. All devils do differently is that they're kikes. They can still do whatever they want, they just have to swing a chicken first.

I didn't even really want to fuck her at all until I installed the mods to clean up her skin and change her haircut from that stupid San Francisco haircut, then I put her in a tiny bikini for the entire game and still ended up enjoying the romance with Lae'zel a lot more

After several RPGs back in the day that allowed you to corrupt companions if you played as a evil character I was hoping it was going to be a industry standard, but instead companions just got more and more simple.

And I'm sure Zariel would have nothing to say about her champion being crippled by some random shithead

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Give it up, pidor. No one takes you seriously.
Never did, schizo retard.

If they used enough proxies and deniable tactics? Had a good scapegoat? And who's to say they got away with it? That story still involves Karlach catching pain and suffering because somebody wanted to climb.

That story still involves Karlach catching pain and suffering because somebody wanted to climb.

The one you made up and are pretending definitely happened?

I mean all bg3 writing is kinda funny. Its very trope like but its done well. Fore example it has same troped of "ironman heart" in 2 separate characters, wyll and karlach. Its fucking stupid. And I hate karlach cos shes fucking reddit. I think it would be good for her to become hard and cynical in her character arc opposite to frog which goes other way but writers werent competent enough to pull it out so shes just there 1d reddit incarnate.

based so I'm not the only one who loves this dork

The one that isn't a tranny

The one that has a huge fat fucking sexy futa cock (female)

If Zariel gave that much of a shit, then her champion would be on the battlefield splitting heads for the Blood War and not traipsing around Baldur's Gate with a Gith and a gay vampire.

This alone destroys the Dragon Age troon. Dragon Age the Troonguard has zero player choice and you literally can't be evil at all. You have to accept the trannys

Americans didn't abduct asians brides from every nation they fucked over out of obligation anon.

The one you made up and are pretending definitely happened?

It's ten years anon. Are you saying over ten years, not a single devil in that army was jealous that the Tiefling was favored? Not a single one grew jealous of her glorious victories? Any time somebody set their sights on Karlach she would have ended up receiving suffering and hardship as a consequence, even if Zariel had her back.

Your argument is now

For ten straight years, there was no backstabbing and subterfuge in the ranks of Zariel's army

Which is fairly retarded tbqh famjam.

Traash does nothing.
Even in the ending where everyone dies she doesn't do anything and just jobs to a single enemy

Dude she's basically exactly what I want in a game like this. Asian elf, ridiculously autistic, completely wholesome in basically every way. Wields a bow, heals me in combat....I honestly could not have designed a companion for myself that is more suited to my tastes
She's perfection

Did you forget that literally the first thing Karlach wants you to do after meeting her is hunt down and kill the agents Zariel sent to track her down and drag her back to Avernus?

Devils are immensely outnumbered by demons in the Blood war and thus need every single soldier in their ranks to be in fighting shape, crippling someone for no reason would be stupid and make no sense, since their hatred for demons vastly outweigh any of their sadistic tendencies

Started playing this, same character that I'm playing in Veilguard (White Elf Warrior)
I'm still in the intro
Gonna be honest, I'm not impressed at all

crippling someone for no reason would be stupid and make no sense

Unless it would lead to you having a chance to gain more power. Because you're evil.

since their hatred for demons vastly outweigh any of their sadistic tendencies

If hurting Karlach hurts or impedes Zariel even one iota, that brings her closer into the reach of a potential usurper.

Your argument is

all these things that are never alluded to once definitely happened because I think they should have

Both trash.

You're so close to the reality: The game is badly written, I'm only talking about things that are obvious and would 100% have happened if we look at the scenario objectively.

If they had mentioned such things and had them affect Karlach's arc and behavior, it would be better written. Instead they literally ignore a decade of slavery and warfare because the game is BADLY written. SUPER badly written.

Unless it would lead to you having a chance to gain more power.

What power did Karlach have? She was a slave, what would crippling or killing her gain for someone else, other than now being on Zariel's shitlist?

things that are obvious and would 100% have happened

Okay lol

MY headcanon makes OBJECTIVE sense. I am VERY smart

Bioware has never made a good game

What power did Karlach have?

She was a body modded super soldier that was extremely effective on the battlefield. An asset in Zariel's ability to project force.

what would crippling or killing her gain for someone else, other than now being on Zariel's shitlist?

If you have a plan where you need Zariel's military power to falter so you can challenge her directly. Do you really think there's no devil in Avernus who want to depose her?

No, I didn't. Did you forget how strong Zariel is? How strong her top dogs are? I'm saying if she REALLY gave a shit then she would make it happen and there wouldn't really be anything anyone could do about it. The bitch could commission some Inevitables to bring Karlach back, she has that kind of clout.

But she didn't. She put some low-level mooks on the case and forgot about it.

Karlach is absolutely not any more powerful than any of the fucking pit fiends or other greater devils under Zariel's command

So now your argument is that the game is badly written because it doesn't include a subplot in Karlach's backstory where another soldier in Zariel's army didn't sneakily try to cripple or kill her in order to hamstring their own forces in the middle of a war? The absence of this ludicrous scenario is the mark of poor writing?

She was a body modded super soldier that was extremely effective on the battlefield.

They literally took a random slave and swapped her heart out for the engine of an Infernal Machine. That's it. She's not fucking Captain America.

For these things to not have happened other thingss that are objectively impossible would have to be true like:

Nobody in Avernus ever seeking to cause harm to Zariel or her forces

So... I think my story where logical things that would happen in a demonic hell army like betrayal, political maneuvering and vying for power and glory occur makes more sense than yours where there's no power struggles or outside sabotage in an army made of devils that's fighting against demons.

Karlach spent a decade with no allies surrounded by pure ontological evil. It should affect how she behaves in act 1. It doesn't.

She's lvl 1 she's the weakest thing in all of avernus. insects could overpower her.

Mass Effect 1 and 2 are excellent games. Cope.

Karlach is absolutely not any more powerful than any of the fucking pit fiends or other greater devils under Zariel's command

I'm not the one who said this. Game said she was one of the best Zariel had and one of her favorites. More bad writing but it's not badass enough JUST be a slave soldier for the hells, you ALSO need her to be close to a major named character from the manuals or else she's not cool enough!

It's just more bad writing.

. She's not fucking Captain America.

Blame the game, not me. She apparently was special enough for the top bitch to like her.

Did you meet her close friend Elminster or her half brother Drizzt?
He might have been in the cancelled dlc.

being a good fighter who's recognized for being a good fighter is bad writing

You really need to calm down

I mean the other guy is right though, there are tons of things in Zariel's army that mog her. It's just bad writing.

She's high-ranking among the SLAVES Zariel's got, but she's still a slave who can't compare to any of the actual devils in their ranks. If she could, she wouldn't be at fucking lvl 1

best thing about this whole game for sure

If she could, she wouldn't be at fucking lvl 1

That's the tadpole's fault.

She's high-ranking among the SLAVES Zariel's got, but she's still a slave who can't compare to any of the actual devils in their ranks

Anon, if she drew Zariel's favor, we have to assume it was because she was effective enough to do so. It wan't just because she likes the "cut of her jib".

yours where there's no power struggles or outside sabotage in an army made of devils that's fighting against demons.

No, I'm saying the flat assumption that someone crippling or killing a fucking slave in an attempt to gain some kind of power or influence definitely, absolutely 100% would have happened is a retarded notion

wierd how you dont mention 3. its almost like me3 retroactively destroyed me1 and 2 or something making them shit because theres no coherent plotline.

I'm saying the flat assumption that someone crippling or killing a fucking slave in an attempt to gain some kind of power or influence definitely, absolutely 100% would have happened is a retarded notion

You're dishonestly presenting one of Zariels favored warriors as "a fucking slave". The fact is, since Zariel likes her so much, it makes her a HUGE target. People would've come for her or she would've caught blowback from people fucking with Zariel.

Her time in Avernus was raw uncut suffering save for the moments of adrenal elation during victory on the battlefield. She should be damaged for act 1. She isn't. It's bad writing.

neither

bg2 sucks. bg1 sucks. nw1 sucks. icewind dale sucks.
bow to ps torment and repent, bioware trannies.

Left

Attractive face

???

Thing is, Karlach also genuinely enjoys violence, fighting, killing, conquering. She's the kind of person of "Frankly, I enjoyed the war" breed. Some people are just built different, process trauma different and are fucked up by it in different ways. Hell, she even brags about being a good soldier and slayer. Also add the fact that she's the definition of 8 INT

Yes but again, she's by no means as strong as any actual devils. Conversely, plenty of gods take paladins and clerics as champions, they're stronger than your average no-name soldier but absolutely not comparable to actual angels

its just got ripoff

Left is also a possible tradwife

Karlach

Lae'zel

tradwife

???
Just because they are not open to threesomes does not make them tradwives.

He's probably from a snowy steppe nation.
Tieflings are all like that in lacking culture.

fix Traash

Give her a female face, first off. Bigger tits, more feminine body all around. She wouldn't have two big fuck-off horns and shitty hairstyle she'd have a more feminine one with long hair, and likely bangs that can work to frame her face favorably.

I'd set her up so that she's smarter. She comes off like a retarded child much like Bellaria in this game. Also her voice actor is fucking TERRIBLE. Just flat in all delivery with all the vocal fry in the world. Fire that fucking Life is Strange voice actor and get someone who can actually bring this character to life. Also none of that stupid fucking tranny bullshit. Cut all that out of the game. I'd make her into more of a romancable girl Sten. A wise-ass where you're not sure your responses leaves you in good standing with her or not until you learn more about her.

Both are reddit, but reddit trannies are a breed of awful all their own.

So now she was Zariel's favorite little pet and got special treatment? That's a far cry from earlier when you said she was definitely casually tortured enough that she should be emotionally and psychologically in shambles

Not him but I always take shar teel. And Safana. Especially Safana.

Karlach loves kids and wants the two of you to have a happy life together

She isn't hot as fuck. It's that Karlach is feminine and girly and if were human would easily be your biggest fucking cheerleader. That's what she is. She's lovable and just wants to provide for (you). Traash is just looking for a fucking therapist.

meanwhile in dragon age, taking the path that kills trash LITERALLY results in your mc dying no matter what

So now she was Zariel's favorite little pet and got special treatment?

If you hate Zariel, you're gonna kick her cat.

That's a far cry from earlier when you said she was definitely casually tortured

She was. For sure. Because she spent 10 years in Avernus as a slave.

God you're stupid. Even the writer I hate and think is a skullfucked retard would probably say "yeah, she got tortured".

Why do you like you never have an augement?

barbarian

devilspawn

but she wants to create more devilspawn

Yeah tradwife

Elaborate? Didn't get there yet

Taash invites you to dinner with her mom

Mom starts telling you about a Qunari expedition to Thedas a thousand years before the known first expedition, it even predates the Qun

this is a pretty major backstory reveal

game just skips over that entirely, cuts straight to Rook being like "whoa you haven't told your mom you're non-binary yet, but don't worry it's your journey, you do what's best for you"

Taash's "character arc" is like a parody of an afterschool special, except the game isn't in on the joke

Aside from the tranny stuff?

All Traash is is tranny stuff. You must be talking about her performance in combat or some shit.

None of them seem too upset with you being powerful and/or more powerful than they are, and prefer monogamous, respectful relationships with their significant others (Karlach, Lae'zel, redeemed Shadowheart, maybe others etc) so i think its viable. You don't get the idea that any of them will have any problem with a quiet life with you if things go right

you're gonna kick her cat

And I'm sure it's as easy as an evening stroll to do that right under Zariel's nose

Because she spent 10 years in Avernus as a slave.

You literally just scoffed at me for "dishonestly presenting one of Zariel's favorite warriors as a slave." Pick a line and stick to it, jesus fucking christ

Even the writer I hate and think is a skullfucked retard would probably say "yeah, she got tortured".

my headcanon is SO GOOD that the writer would probably agree with me, I am VERY smart

he's talking about the "bad ending" that happens when you don't do every companion quest. Every companion dies and Rook sacrifices themselves to fix the Veil.

I just don't think you know what tradwife means.

Karlach is too reddit for me but I don’t actively dislike her
Trash is repulsive

And I'm sure it's as easy as an evening stroll to do that right under Zariel's nose

Irrelevant. 10 years is a long time.

You literally just scoffed at me for "dishonestly presenting one of Zariel's favorite warriors as a slave." Pick a line and stick to it, jesus fucking christ

I'm not doing anything wrong. She was favored and she was a slave. Both are true.

NOBODY WHO WAS ENSLAVED IN HELL WOULD EVER GET TORTURED! I AM THE MOSTEST SMARTEST EVEERRRRRR

We can both play this game.

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I'm glad you're happy.

it's bad writing

it's bad writing

it's bad writing

No you're just an autistic retard who knows fuck all about the DnD cosmology

it's worth noting that greentext isn't an exaggeration or a joke, it's literally what she says

what do you mean my demon can't be a tradwife why not

Because these guys are "Lawful" evil they don't do hell shit like torture people

lmfao you're adorable.

They're equally woke.

Yes anon it makes perfect sense to torture your own frontline shock troops before sending them into battle. That's guaranteed to get you the upper hand in war, you've got it all figured out

I can tell left one is some monster woman
Right one is some tranny with boobs and a male nigger face

literally wants to have *at least* two kids

wants to live in a quiet cottage until both you grow old

undyingly loyal

What else you want

Yes anon it makes perfect sense to torture your own frontline shock troops before sending them into battle

What about AFTER the battle? What about that? What about if they failed to achieve their objectives? What about collective punishment for the shortcomings of the few being inflicted on the many?

God you're stupid. Like WIDLY dumb. Accept that Karlach is badly written and the intellectual thrashings will abate.

So you have to do all the companions mandatory to not be an hero? No way to skip Traash?

Not a rage induced barbarian devil woman

Correct. Ignore her woke propaganda storyline and you get the bad end.

Shit taste then

A human.

I just like trad women

Good RPG have companions that don't work with other companions, like Edwin and Dynaheir or the bear and shadow thing in Mask of the Betrayer or Mira and the wookiee in KotOR2, or hidden companions like those 3 in Rogue Trader that most people probably doesn't know about. The game is more interesting that way and way more replayable.

I couldn't stomach playing Turdguard longer than half an hour but I find Bellara cute appearance-wise. The only reason I even pirated the game and reduced my SSD's lifespan. None in BG3 comes close, honestly.

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This game is a psychological weapon of hate.

Define trad women

This game is ugly as shit overall but this screenshot reminds of the twilight princess art-style just more HD.

You can literally kill every single companions in Dragon Age Origins

Karlach by default because the DAtV companions dont do anything useful.

This game is ugly as shit overall

In what way?
What's a good looking game to you

A holy (non-devil) woman who is not a rage induced barbarian

Human woman that is traditional in her values and your wife.

Surely there MUST be a bottom for you lot to hit eventually.

No idea how this is relevant. And no desire to find out, to be honest.

You asked about the bottom. Just be glad i'm not showing you my...special collection? I'm not even at the bottom of weird shit, comparatively speaking.

neither

i restarted entire game just to go back and kill her

All BG3 girls are cuter than her
She only looks good with certain lighting

she comes off as a retard in every piece of media I've ever seen about this game

This but unironically I love Bellara the cute asian elf

What about AFTER the battle? What about that?

What about it? How does it make any more sense for Zariel to torture her favorite soldier after a battle than before? You've invented this bizarre world where Karlach was simultaneously Zariel's favored champion and personal lapdog and recieved special treatment, but was also a Gollum-in-Barad-dur tier shitcrawling worm who received hourly beatings and floggings because uhhhhhhh it's hell duh, huh huh huh

What about if they failed to achieve their objectives? What about collective punishment for the shortcomings of the few being inflicted on the many?

If she was Zariel's best soldier, why would she be punished for other soldiers' fuckups? Even if she was, are you just assuming her army is so incompetent that these collective punishments happened often enough for Karlach to necessarily be a gibbering sobbing wreck because of it?

the intellectual thrashings will abate.

If "intellectual trashing" is you floundering and flailing about desperately trying to get me to accept your retarded contradictory headcanon like you have been then I'm really not too concerned

Elves can't be trad wives

Retard

There are evil gods are their worshippers trad?

yep

the game even hard stops the main plot halfway through and the companions all explicitly tell you "solve our personal problems or we won't be able to fight the gods"

Trad wife is nomenclature for humans. Only humans use it to describe other humans. Elves are a fictional invention for literature.
Hope this helps!

I wouldn't describe Rogue Trader as a good RPG or the secret companions therein as a good example of how to implement secret companions

Anyone who says Karlach is just as bad has to be fucking joking. Taash's whole character arc is dedicated to a nonbinary afterschool special and screaming at her mom for asking too many rational questions about it.

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both look like fucking shit

There are evil gods are their worshippers trad

I said Holy not Unholy.

How does it make any more sense for Zariel to torture her favorite soldier after a battle than before?

Because they failed.

gibbering sobbing wreck because of it?

Never said that, she should just have serious baggage and damage. You're stupid and dishonest in equal measure.

Your ENTIRE STANCE is just

I think the devils wouldn't do evil things!

Which is laughable in the extreme.

she's the Chaotic Good party member, and a Barbarian to boot, typically a very resilient lot.

I love her

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Autism

Physically yes. Mentally no, they're comically easy to use mind magics on. Emotionally it should take her a moment to recover from being a slave soldier for a decade. Instead they just pretend like her only side effect from 10 years of slavery in a hell army is that darned infernal engine and nothing else.

No one besides the russian is saying karlach.

she constantly acts like a vulnerable little girl. she's not barbarian-like. not very good either, if you ask me, encouraging children to do the exact things that lead them to become pawns of devils and getting mad at you if you say that's dumb

And troons still say bg3 is woke..
If I can't behead your fugly, writer's self-insert troonoid character, then torment his rotting corpse and defile it by mutilating it and throwing it in a river, THEN your game is woke.

In what way?

Not a question that I can answer in detail but I do know I just don't like the way the game looks

What's a good looking game to you?

I'm a simple guy something like the Original Wind Waker is pleasing to my eye.

Even though I know a lot of people hate the game with a burning passion.

Shadowchud

manly Karlach

a space frog who might be the Miss Universe by the Gith standards but pretty meh for me

a hag

Not really, I still prefer the chink elf
My post wasn't ironic, her being in such a bad game is a waste.
Women are cuter when a little retarded.

Everyone says bg3 is woke, because it is.

Because they failed

When?

Never said that, she should just have serious baggage and damage. You're stupid and dishonest in equal measure.

I'm saying she needs to be absolute mentally and emotionally SHATTERED by her experiences. She should have some sort of mad dog persona she used to ow demons that tried to fuck with her in the armies of Zariel. She should be a nasty, horrible person

Speaking of disingenuity

your entire argument is hurr durr

No, my argument is that all this bullshit you keep making up and saying DEFINITELY DEFINITELY HAPPEN even though it's never even fucking alluded to in game is stupid, and that "well I think it should have happened so it did" is beyond retarded

You may be gay

still say bg3 is woke

Is it not?

Not a single nonstraight, nonwhite character in my BG3 playthrough had any fun or painless life. I slaughtered them all. I had no gay bear sex. I suffered no lesbian couple. I just kept killing niggers and faggots and found myself not wokefied in the least.
Can I do the same in a troonguard playthrough?

Based

she's level 1 because of the Tadpole, all the PC's were probably level 10 to 13 before getting Tadpoled.

fuck off sperg

When?

A few times in ten years of warfare, you're gonna take some losses.

Speaking of disingenuity

There's nothing disingeuous there at all. I suggested a couple top of my head ideas for how her mental and emotional scars from Avernus should or would affect her. None of those suggestions were "blubbering crying baby" though even being a little crybaby about it would be better than pretending it didn't happen and simply leaving a gaping hole in your writing.

DEFINITELY DEFINITELY HAPPEN even though it's never even fucking alluded to in game is stupid

Anon, it either definitely did happen and the game left it out which is bad writing, or it didn't happen, which is also bad writing. Armies of hell are unpleasant horrific things to serve in. She would have been faced with physical and emotional cruelty daily OR the game's interpretation of Avernus is so woefully out of touch and wrong that it's just complete dogshit writing.

Pick one.

Gale is friends with Elminster, not her.

You slaughtering a bunch of people in a woke game isn't really relevant to the game being woke or not.
I know, its still depressing that that joke fits in any way. The BG2 cast being in this game is for the same reason.

her cheeks are comically high up, she had the head shape of a fucking baseball diamond, she's JUST shy of a racist caricature from fucking WW2.

BG2 cast is here because its fun, this game is for fun, it is fun.

Its like they wanted to recreate the pan faced look of ww2 era propaganda posters but put tattoos on it so you wouldn't notice at first.
They are there because they had to find a way to sell the game to baldur's gate fans.

yea no shit, thats the point, the game is a huge fucking jerk off for BG fans, and it should be.

no one else is going to do it, especially now after this came out, enjoy it while it lasts, WoTC will never let something like this come out again without it being heavily propagandized and ideological in nature.

The Karlach ending where she burns up is kino. She goes full mask off, exposing that everything she said about being being ready to die instead of going back to the hells was a cope.
She seethes hard that she doesn't get a happy ending.

Its pretty insulting if you are a bg fan actually. none of the lore makes sense for starters.
Bhaalspawn stuff didn't matter at the end of BG2 Bhaal gives up all claim on the plane via the bhaalspawn.

in which ending

All of them.

You must be a miserable loser if you don't like her

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None of those suggestions were "blubbering crying baby"

With the kind of experiences you're so desperate to assert Karlach had in Avernus, "mentally and emotionally SHATTERED" absolutely implies someone utterly incapable of dealing with the world and people around them due to their intense trauma and shellshock, and who completely breaks down at the drop of a hat

She would have been faced with physical and emotional cruelty daily OR the game's interpretation of Avernus is so woefully out of touch and wrong that it's just complete dogshit writing.

If you can point out to me where in the game Karlach talks about it like it was a walk in the park, go for it. She clearly hated it and it was a terrible experience for her, and she's willing to die to avoid ever going back. Your only contention is that she's not a horrible broken person because of it when it makes no sense for her to be as a barbarian who loves fighting and violence, so you've been trying to invent other, worse scenarios for her involving torture and backstabbing and whatever else you can pull out of your ass to try to justify your dumbass assertion

your right, but it is what it is, they wanted to be an extension of BG2, and it shows.

also in all technicality, Bhaal is "Dead" in this game, mostly.

this

Shadows of Amn was the extension of bg2.

Autists can't comprehend the fact that humans often cope with bad things through humor. So her behavior is incomprehensible to them. When an autist can't understand something he gets mad and that's why they scream about her being ebaumsworld or gaia on here.

Mom, can we get our own Orin?

We already have Orin at home...

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With the kind of experiences you're so desperate to assert Karlach had in Avernus, "mentally and emotionally SHATTERED" absolutely implies someone utterly incapable of dealing with the world and people around them due to their intense trauma and shellshock

Nope. It just means that I know that 10 years of slavery or 10 years of war are both enough to shatter a person completely. She was doing both at once and so should be shattered2

If you can point out to me where in the game Karlach talks about it like it was a walk in the park

I don't care. That's a moved goalpost. The fact is, she should be insanely damaged emotionally and mentally and it should be a barrier to her recovery and making friends. I'm not asking for a full rewrite, just for her first arc to actually payoff and acknowledge her backstory in a way that isn't cringe shit from millennials who've never suffered.

horrible

Being horrible would be logical. She would have had to adapt to living among devils. We can say that's a boring choice but it's better for her backstory. Either change the backstory or change the character because together, they're dissonant garbage.

worse scenarios for her involving torture and backstabbing and whatever else you can pull out of your ass to try to justify your dumbass assertion

I'm not pulling anything out of my ass. That's devils. Devils scheme, torture and backstab. That's basically all they do lmao.

Anon Babble's style of humor is the basis for all of western society's humor you clown.
There is no reason caturday calenders would have existed if we weren't the ones driving culture.

Or I could have standards?

being able to kill taash will make veilguard 1000 times better

asian character design is superi-

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Anon, a few jokes is not enough to cover up being a slave soldier. This is why you're stupid AND why it's bad writing, because somebody as dumb as you would defend an escaped slave soldier being friendly and well adjusted DAY ONE.

karlach. she isn't some weird gender thing. she just has scars on her body.

her cheeks are comically high up

A typical Asian feature

head shape

If anything, it's closer to a stereotypical Grey alien. Her hair makes it look like a rhombus.

Karlach

Cheerful

Fiery, bubbly

Emotional in a good way, she first time see the world of water, blue sky and green trees after many years in fucking Hell

Brash and brave, caring

Only lose temper in a very critical and close to her heart situations

Result: cute, likeable, sincere, overly excited girl but its natural due to sircumstances

Taash

Rude

Overly negative about everything

Seems indifferent ('Kay. Bye. Uguh. Thanks).

Portrayed as spoiled brat (Mom, you didnt make my favorite food today! No, i wont cook it myself! Mom, call me THEY!)

Barely shows anything positive

Result: unlikeable cunt

I'm talking just her head, not her hair, her cheeks are hilariously high, way higher than any Asian I've ever fuckin scene, like I said, its on the tier of "Slap a Jap" propaganda pictures.

Bellara is cute

You are a homosexual

Karlach is also nice in that she fits all the stereotypes of a Barbarian ,but with a heavy emphasize on "Good" over "chaotic".

usually Barbs are depicted as chaotic and angry, where she is is a nice turn on the class.

no

t. Home of sexual

My only issue with Karlach is that she gets too atttached way too quickly and then acts like she's ok with you sleeping around.
When her heart gets repaired and she says "can we go to bed now" (aka can you please fuck me) it has never really made sense in my playthroughs.
However yes Taash is irredeemable. Disgusting to look at, awful characterisation, whole storyline for her is being a literal retarded tranny

Lmao

Taash honestly feels like someone from HR

Karlach is gorgeous, has valid hang-ups, is feminine, goofy, loves you, loves kids, every companion likes her, and she wants to pop out kids.

Traash is ugly, has immersion destroying california gender ideology, has a shit personality, is at odds with all her teammates, and is badly voice acted and written.

So Traash is obviously better. Where did you think I was going with all this?

side note, both are acted by nonbinary actresses, yet one is clearly better. (again, Traash, of course)

Why the long face?

Karlach is gorgeous

What mod did you use to get that?

feminine

lol

she got posted in the same thread as Traash.

get ye gone log poster

Karlach easily. But they both suck.

the same mod that installs your mother's anus. I took picks of it and uploaded it into 3d for modding. dark black and cumstained. just how I left it.

monke seething at human face

LOL normal humans don't have oval/square heads. Monkeys do.

t. miserable fatfuck

How are you gonna defend DoS 2's amor system?

Karlach would make a good trad wife.
Taash wants to be a man.
When you and Karlach are alone you can discuss books, whisper horny things to each other and cuddle.
When you and Tash are alone she sniffs your neck and talks about what a poor creature she is.
Karlach makes my dick exploding, Taash makes me vomit.
Its simple.

Karlach duh. She actually cute and not a hideous creature the writer expects praise for.

based and Karlachpilled

I admit it, I admit it.
I am in love with Karlach.

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SEXOOOO

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The desperation is palpable.

I dont think youve played bg3

Not many have.

I am desperate for red pussy

how do you like them now?

Why did you post this webm of yourself and your wife

Why do you like you never have an augement?

>tranny having a melty after being asked to state his argument and his gender clearly

trannyguard disasterkino keeps on giving

Anon Babble shits on Karlach for being non-stereotypically feminine

Anon Babble loves Jack for being a bald, tattood, niggerlipped, makeup-wearing, gang whore

While shameful, this is a get out of jail free card for coomerism. You have to waifu her though, this only works once.

Taash looks to have better breasts than karlach. karlach's breast look bolted on. as long as I gag Taash with her panties the backshots will be diabolical

Talk about your red oni and blue oni contrast, geez. Except Taash actually makes for an awful blue oni personalitywise

Bleach.

Honestly? Not bad for a tiefling

Play miHoYo NOW
Just any gacha is not enough

im waiting for zzz to go up so i can get my half oni office lady plap wife

tfw wanted to recruit her

locked the wood elves in their tree due to killing the evil bitch

now Karlach don't want to follow me when even Haslin was cool.

Killed her since she had no purpose anymore. My character was supposed to be a nice guy hero, instead I made a morally dubious hypocrite...

wtf you people said that Dragon age was woke when she literally has a boob window.

she

Somebody's about to do some braves!

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Bioware cukstanians, our response?

Neither have I but I can tell the difference between a tomboy and an insane person.

Look at her face, they made her ugly on purpose.

Well considering one is like #2 most beloved in her game right behind vanilla ice cream and the other is such a flaw that basically everyone can't stop talking about how awful she is, I think it's Karlach.

Both look and act like tranny ass bitches

Wrong. Karlach is a horny tomboy hungry for your dick. Trash is just a tranny who's whole personality boils down to "I'm a tranny. Use my correct pronouns CHUD".

still got the fivehead

Karlach sexo.

You joke, but this is essentially how lariantrannies excuse their own game being shit and pozzed.

Um EXCUSE ME CHUD. She's non-binary and goes by they/them! There's multiple cutscenes where cis scum have to be reminded to use her correct pronouns. Check your privilege much???

Karluch Maguch of course

BG3 is only pozzed if you make it pozzed since every character can be permanently killed. Encounter an NPC who's a bit faggy for your tastes? Just kill the fucker.

I can't stand the she male on the right let alone the trash on the other side

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I know nothing about right, but Karlach is a cutie.

Refer to You are a normalfag with no taste.

Karlach is a quirk chungus character. Taash is Bioware trying to win GOTY

based
cringe
They hated him because he told the truth.

Prince OP
Faggot is he
Ali ababwa
Takes a cock
Refuses to stop
Shitting up vee
Now try your best to stay calm
He wants to string you along
Dont feed the troll until he can do it less obviouslyyyy

You can't even call out the troon on her bullshit, let alone kill her.

He makes hundreds of shitposts and houuuur

He bills his mom for his powerrrrr

and here's the unedited photo

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uhhm... so THAT just happened!

I don't mind retarded women but she is just insufferable by all metrics

Karlach:

tall muscular woman

happy-go-lucky

monogamous

loves her family, animals and meat pies

is a Catholic

The other one:

tranny

She should be ten layers deep in trauma and coping mechanisms

She is. It comes out multiple times throughout the game. She is forcing herself to be happy-go-lucky because she knows she's on very limited time.

Karlach

Better Game

Better Quest

Better Writing

Better Voice Actor

Hot

Doesn't look like a sack of potatoes

this

She is.

She's the happiest most outgoing person in the party when she should be struggling to form trusting social bonds and thinking at any second Zariel is gonna pop up and bring her home. She should be forgetting that the party are her friends and on her team and instinctively rebuff them and keep her distance.

Do we see any of that? No, she's a heckin' chungerino the whole time and the only time she breaks down is when she's dealing with her fear of dying.

She should be forgetting that the party are her friends

Why?

Because her allies for a DECADE were demons who weren't trustworthy or truly on her side.

But these ones aren't demons. Why would she forget that? Why are you projecting fucking amnesia of all things onto her?

I think that you should take your pills cus your headcannon delusions are overpowering your ability for rational thought. If you were not dumb you'd know that different people react in different ways to stress and dire situations. But you are retarded.

But these ones aren't demons. Why would she forget that?

Because Gortash wasn't a demon and was most responsible for her suffering of all?

None of those diverse reactions include having no significant social and emotional scarring to being a SLAVE and a SOLDIER in HELL for a DECADE. Every human on the planet bar a few very very abnormal people would take atleast a week to acclimatize to normal life after being a SLAVE SOLDIER IN HELL FOR TEN YEARS.

It's over, shut it down

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SHE SHOULD FORGET HER ALLIES ARE ALLIES

why?

BECAUSE HER ALLIES WERE DEMONS FOR TEN YEARS SO SHE SHOULD BE SCARED THESE ONES WILL BE DEMONS TOO

but they aren't

ACTUALLY I MEAN IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMONS AND IS ACTUALLY ABOUT GORTASH

Christ. I've basically not been on Anon Babble at all since BG3 released and I still recognise you. You've been spazzing out about this for years, projecting the most utterly insane, nonsensical "anyone who experiences trauma can never be happy" shite.

she literally threatens to kill you with a crossbow the first time you meet because she thinks you might be agents of Zariel and you only gain her trust when you kill the fake paladins

Anon, You're just unable to keep two ideas in your head. She should be fully unable and possibly even unwilling to offer full trust because after her favorite person on the whole prime material plane sold her into slavery for demons, she had no contact with anybody who would ever behave kindly or virtuously for a decade.

Her basic reaction to people at least until she finally starts to recover from her trauma would be so be defensive and guarded in some way. How it manfests specifically is debateable but the one thing a SLAVE SOLDIER FROM HELL FOR YEARS cannot be; is a heckin friendly chungeroonie who just loves everybody and is ready to make friends.

Okay? Get it? To be well written Karlach can't be

A SLAVE SOLIDER FOR ZARIEL FOR TEN YEARS WHO JUST ESCAPE HOURS AGO

And also at the same time

FRIENDLY WHOLESOME CHUNGUS WHO LOVES MAKING FRIENDS

Got it? It's horrifically bad writing.

Oh I promised to be nice! Now she trusts me!

She's far too trusting, far too quickly and display no maladaptive or unhealthy defensive mechanisms when she should just be a pile of emotional scars and defense mechanisms the same way her body is basically one big scar.

Act 1 Karlach should be damaged goodx in a big way. She's not and that's absolutely pathetic millennial writing that doesn't understand how TEN YEARS of EXTREME trauma [remember, being a slave, being a soldier and being in hell are all enough to break somebody in 10 years and she was experiencing all three at once.]

Taash feels unbelievably immature.
And that’s saying something comparing against karlach the marvel/reddit quipper.
Taash is like throwing mentally stunted child actor into the middle of Skyrim, Witcher 3, or Cyberpunk.

Make a video game for sensitive white girls with they/them pronouns.

Expect everyone to buy it.

Why did Bioware do this? At least BG3 tries to cater to a wide group.

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She should be fully unable and possibly even unwilling to offer full trust

You're back on "trauma makes you retarded, insane and evil" again. People get kidnapped, tortured and amputated by people they trusted and they still come out of it and forge new relationships. You know this though. You just have a weird kink specifically about Karlach being unhappy. This is a fetish for you.

people wear all their trauma on their sleeve and lash out at anyone new they meet

Okay, so you definitely have never known anyone ever with any kind of trauma at all in their history.

You should kill yourself.

"anyone who experiences trauma can never be happy"

nobody is saying this. we're saying trauma has an impact. we get to see the impact it has on her sometimes, the rest of the time she is out of character.

Okay? Get it? To be well written Karlach can't be

>A SLAVE SOLIDER FOR ZARIEL FOR TEN YEARS WHO JUST ESCAPE HOURS AGO

And also at the same time

>FRIENDLY WHOLESOME CHUNGUS WHO LOVES MAKING FRIENDS

He is explicitly saying that you cannot experience trauma and be happy.

trauma is something you outwardly present 100% of the time that you're awake

You are retarded.

You're back on "trauma makes you retarded, insane and evil" again

Nope. You just literally don't see to grasp how major long term trauma will affect somebody's ability and methods for relating to others.

People get kidnapped, tortured and amputated by people they trusted and they still come out of it and forge new relationships

After time. It takes time.

Okay, so you definitely have never known anyone ever with any kind of trauma at all in their history.

No, but if a guy came back from being a prisoner of war last week, I wouldn't be surprised if he was standoff-ish or didn't trust people he doesn't know.

He is explicitly saying that you cannot experience trauma and be happy.

No, I'm saying it has real immediate consequences and we should be seeing Karlach experience them as we get to know her because her trauma LITERALLY just ended and was EXTREEEEEEEEEEEMELY prolonged, so the emotional damage is going to take a lot of time to heal.

Again: She can become her normal self in Acts 2-3. But Karlach the recently escaped slave soldier who was held against her will in Avernus for a decade? No. She can't be the chungus, it should take her awhile to get back in touch with that version of herself.

No, but

Okay so we're done. You admitted that you have 0 idea how people who have experienced trauma behave. You have never once in your life seen it, heard it, felt it, experienced it in any way. So literally everything you're saying is entirely made up. Presumably because women suffering is a fetish for you.

Why did Bioware do this?

They probably thought

If we cater to everyone (trannies included), then we'll maximise our sales

It doesn't work like that at all. All the sane people will be less likely to buy your game. It's like someone making a drink that's only slightly poisoned. Nobody will drink it.

You admitted that you have 0 idea how people who have experienced trauma behave.

lmao, that's not what I said. Sorry anon, you're just stupid. Karlach should take at least part of act 1 to find herself again, it's complete dogshit writing to imply she can do ten years as a slave soldier in hell and not even take a DAY to recover emotionally.

She's badly written and it reflect REALLY badly on you that you can't see the very basic an unassailable logic being presented to you.

Do you or do you not have any experience interacting with people who have experienced trauma? Yes or no?

The thing on the right is a man, isn't it?

Suck my cock retard. That's an irrelevant attempt for you to try and weasel and pilpul your way out of this like a chicken swinging kike.

10 years of trauma is not invisible day 1. Implying or thinking otherwise shows deep social and emotional immaturity.

What's with niggers and wigs?

Dodged the question

I'll ask it again. If you dodge it a second time, it will be assumed you have no experience with people who have experienced trauma and therefore you will automatically concede the argument.

Do you or do you not have any experience interacting with people who have experienced trauma? Yes or no?

Not him but yes i have. And he's right 100%

They hate getting mogged by every other race so they cope.

it will be assumed

Assume anything you want fuckstick, I don't care what you think lmao.

The only way you could assert highground on those grounds is if you were a trauma counselor with a focus on child soldiers and I'm pretty sure that's the person who would be most poised to agree that: Nobody snaps back from 10 years of slavery and warfare in less than a day

not him

lol

in order to be happy you have to be outgoing, friendly, nice, trusting, etc.

Why the fuck are you being so disingenuous?

Karlach since optional

um if you haven't personally experienced something then you can't have an opinion on it

holy fuck why are BG3fags such insufferable cunts?

He's maximum triggered because I've been in discussions of Karlach spreading my take on her character since I finished my first playthrough and he's been there every time to scream and moan about his misunderstanding of how deep long term trauma impacts people.

Admitted that he has never interacted with someone who has suffered from trauma but talks like an authority on it

kek.

Pop quiz: Amanda Berry escapes from the hellhole she's been trapped in for 2 years, being raped multiple times per day by a man and even forced to give birth due to all the raping. What's the first thing she does when she sees a man after her escape?

There's nothing disingenuous about that. The faggot is constantly obsessed with Karlach being isolated, alone and suffering at all times.

If you have never experienced a victim of trauma interacting with other people after their trauma then you cannot speak on how victims of trauma interact with other people after their trauma, correct.

triggered

You've been having these meltdowns for TWO YEARS.

You've been having these meltdowns for TWO YEARS.

It's not a meltdown. I genuinely enjoy shitting on people who are as wrong as you. I'm smiling WIDE and smoking weed from a glass pipe right now lol. You're the one who's not only laughably uninformed about the consequences of trauma but also emotional invested in a retarded party member from a video game to the point where my opinion of her causes you discomfort and rage CONSISTENTLY

HERE ENGAGE IN MY FAKE GAY HYPOTHETICAL

No. Get on your knees and start sucking my fat white cock faggot, that's all you're good for.

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You're right, a meltdown would be a one off. Not two entire years of this. You've got a serious mental health issue.

I'M LAUGHING AND SMILING AND I'M LAUGHING BUT U ARE MAD

pic related is you

white

You're an amerimutt lol. Don't think I didn't notice you dodging the Amanda Berry question either. Here's the answer: She ran right up to that strange man and hugged him.

You're actually really mad AND you're american so that's why I think a decade of the deepest [non-sexual] trauma one can experience would roll of her back like water on a duck!

lmao, you're so fucking stupid.

an unironic "no u"

while also ignoring the actual instance of a traumatised woman throwing herself into the arms of a man after being imprisoned and raped by a man for years on end

I truly wonder how many times you've lost this argument over these two years. It must be in the hundreds. Admittedly, I dont know how often BG3 comes up on Anon Babble, but I'd wager it's hundreds of times.

Anyways we're heading to 404 and my wife is gonna be home soon. Keep seething retard, Karlach is written super badly and nothing you can do will ever change it.

encouraging children to do the exact things that lead them to become pawns of devils and getting mad at you if you say that's dumb

Yeah don't forget this. It's so true.

There's nothing disingenuous

The other anon is stating it's a flaw that she's a "friendly wholesome chungus" and you have interpreted that as "happy", as if everyone who's happy has to be outgoing and friendly.

If you have never experienced a victim of trauma interacting with other people after their trauma then you cannot speak on how victims of trauma interact with other people after their trauma, correct.

You're talking like one of those faggots that say shit like "you can't have an opinion on abortion if you're not a woman" or "you can't talk about race unless you're a bipoc lgtv". There are these things called 'books', retard. Everyone knows what PTSD is, stop being a faggot because I can use your own logic against you and say that unless you are literally a half-devil that's perpetually on fire you can't have an opinion on Karlach's character at all. Dumb nigger.

while also ignoring the actual instance of a traumatised woman throwing herself into the arms of a man after being imprisoned and raped by a man for years on end

It means nothing you skullfucked retard. Literally irrelevant. tab closed, last word is mine. Get wrecked.

The other anon is stating it's a flaw

Based on what? Everything we know about trauma states that he's wrong. Are you retarded? You are. End your life.

tab closed

No it's not lol you're still here. Your weak little ego could never leave this knowing I've won so thoroughly.

Based on what?

The arguments you've been ignoring.

I'll ask again, why are you being disingenuous?

The arguments that are based on what? Certainly not from the scientific documentation we have on trauma. Nor, as he admitted, from experience. So what is his argument based on? Nothing.

So I'll tell you again. Kill yourself.

They didn't try to cater to everyone. Not even a little. They only tried to cater to themselves
Hell, they specifically catered against Dragon Age fans.

the scientific documentation

That you haven't posted.
It's a fact that constant anxiety and mistrust are among the most common symptoms of PTSD. It's such a commonly known fact that I certainly never saw any point in referencing a medical journal or whatever the fuck counts as 'evidence' in your diseased mind.

Kill yourself.

You first, you've got a >50% to do it anyway, troon.

that you havent posted

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Why are you posting a picture of yourself?

Jesus that is a dire attempt at a comeback lmao

What are you talking about, schizo?

You started talking about "scientific documentation" here: Why are you still lying? This isn't twitter, anyone can just scroll up and see the full conversation.

What makes you think you're doing anything but embarrassing yourself?

Oh you're actually, unironically illiterate. Well if I'd known that I'd have just saved myself the trouble lol.

So, knowing that you literally cannot ready, I'm off. It was fun making you look a fool tonight. Toodles lol

Why are you dodging the questions?

What do you actually think you're getting out of this? Nobody's changing their mind on BG3 just because you have a spergout where you ask for medical documents on PTSD, only to change your mind a moment later.

anyway Karlach is best girl, Taash is Traash