Look, I'll be honest, this whole debacle just makes the gamer community as a whole look terrible

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Look, I'll be honest, this whole debacle just makes the gamer community as a whole look terrible

Look, I'll be honest, this whole debacle just makes the gamer community as a whole look terrible.
This is a product going from $60 to $70 to $80 after years without a price change, and in the middle of a massive global recession.
Normal people will take a look at the price of something, and either say "oh, that's a bit too high. maybe I don't need that" or "it's a bit more pricey, but I'm still willing to pay it" and leave it at that. They'd just decide if the price is worth it, and "vote with their wallets".
But these people are going fucking feral at this as if everyone is just a hair away from not being able to afford rent, and a new Mario Kart game brand new is the only thing to remain sane. They're trying to blame anyone who isn't bothered by it for everything wrong with the gaming industry, as if we were just supposed to get $60 games until the end of time.
I really wonder how this looks to an outsider. "What are they so up in arms about? Gas rose double the price in just the past five years, and we're not protesting at Shell or Mobil"

I also learned a whole lot from scrolling through the console's subreddit (wouldn't recommend). I learned that companies don't adjust prices for inflation based on the buying power of a currency, but by the wages of employees at completely different companies. I also learned that inflation isn't even real, and it's all just corporate greed. I also also learned that there are real people out there who wish that a political assassination happened so they could pay less for video games.

To be fair most of those complaining are children, man-children or snoys.

as if everyone is just a hair away from not being able to afford rent,

Not even just a hair away, nobody can afford rent in America without two incomes. These business should be keeping prices low so people can afford their shit, not fleecing them for every penny they're worth when they can't even afford eggs anymore. Nintendo is a cheapskate company that barely pays their workers, so the LEAST they can do is offer some sympathy to us gamers in these tough times.

Just ask Trump to turn off the Vietnam/Japanese tariffs and they'll lower the prices.

You say that now but wait until you start figuring out how much of it is done by AI instead of actually paying people. You’ll be paying more but less will benefit from the price increase.

assuming I'll buy a game made with AI

No matter how much you try to talk to us like children it's not going to make us pay that price for your game.

I'm not trying to make you.
I'm just trying to hold a mirror up, and make these people stop throwing a hissy fit over a new product that costs more than the previous one.

They are quite right to stand up as consumers against predatory pricing.

They are even trying to make you pay for the instruction manual for fuck's sake. Complete nonsense.

Tariffs are the price you pay for "winning" the culture war.

The tariffs certainly won't help but it's the price before those people are mad about (and also not only in America. People use $ when talking about it but that's only for ease of understanding on the internet. They are not necessarily buying it in that currency).

in the middle of a massive global recession

Yea turns out printing money for years over a manufactured pandemic didn't work out so well.

Not reading

Also, DROP THE PRICE

Holy shit, we get it. You lost and you can't cope with it.

Switch 1 to Switch 2 is basically PS5 vs PS5 Pro all over again

Not gonna read all that bootlicker whining, if wages aren't increasing prices shouldn't be either.

This, holy shit these people are mindbroken.

yeah, I bet they'll really think twice when they keep spamming livestream chats with "DROP THE PRICES" Really sticking up for the everyman there.
All this just makes them look like children who don't understand inflation, and are lashing out against the company for adjusting for it, rather than the underlying reasons our economies are in shambles right now.

yeah, not defending that one. I'm not buying it. Hopefully the low sales numbers will make them reconsider next time. either way, no skin off my back, I can just look up everything I need to know

gladly, especially since they'll bring more industry to the US. We're going to see heavily cut taxes soon. We'll have more competitive salaries for the low class due to less immigrants taking up jobs. It's all going great so far.

Not really a fair comparison as it's the same Zelda game vs same Zelda game. Wait for the next one that is actually made for the Switch 2 and you will see more of a difference. Probably not as big a difference as going from 2D to 3D but still.

Why? It's fun seeing the seething. I'm not poor so idc

Spend millions on useless shit like DEI consultations and 800 programmers that do 20 minutes of work a day

AAA games are consistently worse and lazy than the previous titles, constantly use recycled assets because your useless programmers come up with 2 designs in 3 years

Keep taking shortcuts like download codes in physical boxes, live service infinite money printer(tm) microtransactions, day 1 patches

Video games are fundamentally different than physical commodities due to almost non-existent need to spend money to create more products

T-T-THE PRICE OF PRODUCTION HAS GONE UP DON'T YOU SEE WE HAVE TO RAISE THE PRICES?

Not buying your slop.

Gas rose double the price in just the past five years, and we're not protesting at Shell or Mobil"

They should be protesting at AIPAC headquarters tho.

Most protests are people chanting slogans and waving signs. That's just the internet version.

You can literally compare Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart World.

The makers of the cheapest "AAA" games being the first to push the limit to new ridiculous highs is actually obnoxious no matter how you spin it

People are just a hair away from not being able to afford rent. Everything has increased with inflation, except for their wages. People are being fucked.
Games are escapism for most people, they use them to distract themselves. Nintendo sells nostalgia. They sell escapism back to a time when their lives were simple and far less stressful.
The games, the Netflix shows, the sports ball, the anime. It's the only thing keeping people distracted so they don't set the society on fire to feel it's warmth.
They're man childern because being an adult is accepting how fucked you are.

Never actually played either so I'll take your word for it.

can't put aside 200$ for two month

Come on anon it's not THAT expensive

What happens when you protest for minor things, and don't even direct it at the core issue?
People don't take you seriously.

The cost of things right now is not a minor issue for anyone.

who don't understand inflation

Theres games coming weeks later with more inputs behind them and they still cost 70USD

So Nintendo is pissing off their main audience

What happens when you protest for minor things, and don't even direct it at the core issue?

Protesting the core issue would get you arrested and sent to Guantanamo.

Nintendo is a cheapskate company that barely pays their workers

lol

especially since they'll bring more industry to the US.

Going take at least a decade to set up

We're going to see heavily cut taxes

soon.
Taxes never, in the history, have gone down

We'll have more competitive salaries for the low class due to less immigrants taking up jobs.

Meaning al the shit you buy from america gets made at a much higher cost, thus everything is going to much more expensive. How come you fags dont get this.
If a toothbrush gets made in china for 1 cent and they pay their wokers 1 dollad an hour, that toothbrush is going to be much cheaper compared to a home grown toothbrush made by people who make 18 dollars an hour.
We have it this good BECAUSE we buy everything over seas. You dumb bitch
This is why this inflation never stops

oh no my food is 10% higher, I need more money says the doctor

oh no! My doctor bills are up, I need more money says the food maker

oh no my food is up again!

Etc etc

Fucking Mr. Doctorate in Economics speaking here. Holy shit for what do we owe the pleasure?

It blows my mind Nintendo has become even more anti-consumer than Sony and MS combined. That is crazy to me.
Nintendo are directly taking a shit into your mouth and you are loving it. This is zealotry.

Boo hoo nigga, not my fault you're too bitchmade to complain about gas prices

domestic industry means that salary is paid to an American. Instead of just being sent out to another country. This is why the tariffs are lower for reciprocal trades. So we can have money flowing back in, and only going out when necessary.

we did complain about gas prices. wanna know what we did?
We voted against the guy who shut down the keystone pipeline.

We voted against the guy who shut down the keystone pipeline.

And emptied our reserves.

Yes, it really does. It makes fanboy bootlickers look even more deranged and desperate than they already did.

kek

Shut the fuck up.

honestly honest desu I'm being honest/frank/forthcoming with you HONESTLY

Does every single comment need to start with this shit?

If anything enthusiasts will be more tolerant of these prices. This will kill the market of adults buying physical games as gifts.

It's only a $20 increase. What is that, like two cups of coffee at Starbucks? Get a job.

This will kill the market of adults buying physical games as gifts.

I'm not sure that's even been a thing for many years now.

Why do you feel that you need to be queer?

Is the Switch 2 another Wii:U in the making?

Regardless, parents still buy physical for their kids and there's always discount/preowned games at stores

the gamer community as a whole look terrible.

I'd rather look terrible than be cucked by Nintendo they ruined Xenoblade series with 3 they will pay

Different set of problems, but the outcome of 'market leader gets cocky and overconfident' may very well ring true once more.

I haven't bought a console, let alone any Shitendo product, in over a decade. Though it's hilarious to see all the autistic screeching that this is causing.

lmao no. It will sell over 100 million. All these retards complaining will look retarded after the system is released and mario kart sells 80 million copies

Seriously. It's both funny and saddening that so many people are so retarded that they don't get this.

Wow you missed out on all those great console exclusives.................

what's funny is that when I was writing that out, I originally said "candid" but changed it because I figured these people wouldn't get what it means.

Nintendo was my escape from the globe

you're complaining that every major company in the industry is pushing to make your hobby more expensive at once?

EMBARRASSING!

Get Nintendo to pay for your euthanasia since they're obviously funding you already, you absolute social parasite.

lmao op is a reddit-tier nigger
seriously this is the dumbest shit I've read in this board and that's a remarkable fucking achievement

i wouldnt mind the price increase if the amount of money i make increased too
sadly everything is more and more expensive nowadays and my income has only gotten tighter

I'm thankful Nintendo has provided such an entertaining release so far. Haven't had this much fun with a launch since PS3/360 era. What a clusterfuck throwback to the classic days.

The crazy thing is, pre-whatever-the-fuck-tariffs-do-to-the-price, $450 or a $500 bundle for the Switch 2 is reasonable for your price paid. Is it as powerful as the Xbox Series X or Playstation 5? Nope, it's still slightly weaker than the Series S, even, besides raw VRAM (12 vs 8). But the Switch is $300, the OLED is $350, and if we adjusted for inflation since 2017 launch, the Switch would've been roughly $390 in purchasing power before the latest nightmare hike. There's also the fact that it has DLSS, VRR, HDR and RT all built in at the system level alongside the MicroSD Express format that may as well be the SSD of cartridges and memory cards. The CONSOLE PRICE is basically to be expected, it's effectively normal at this point for something touting 4K resolution.

It's the Mario Kart price being $80 if you don't buy the $500 console bundle that really set people off on their autism spree of insanity. Like, why the fuck would you buy a Switch 2 and not save like $30 on the price through the bundle at that point? People are so obsessed with this one game's price that they're failing to notice the other games surrounding it aren't $80, limited though they are; they literally just marked up Mario Kart World to encourage people to buy the bundle first and foremost for inflating the game's sales and encouraging a pack-in game practically.

But everyone instantly jumped down the throat of "OH NINTENDO'S STARTING A GAME PRICING WAR" and started frothing at the mouth in autistic rage.

I mean I'm still gonna get it but it'll mean I'll have to eat inside a bit more that month

basically PS5 vs PS5 Pro

you mean PS4 vs PS5?

Yeah. I just purchased an expensive replacement screen for my laptop, and I want a recurve bow, which costs like $900 for a non-shit decent one. So I'm kind of grateful preorders are on pause right now, cause I want a Switch 2 as well.
Why is life so expensive?

touting 4k resolution

That's the thing: it's not 4k. It's trashy 1080p on the handheld, and upscaled 4k on a tv (i.e. not native). Even then, games like CP2077 (a 5 year old game I ran in ultrawide 4k at release ~75 fps) runs at ~40fps 1080p when docked (not 4k). Also, a lcd panel in 2025? Cmon.

other games surrounding it aren't $80

Why in the world would I ever pay ~$70 for a game (BOTW) that's 8 years old? Same goes for ~rest of Nintendo's first party library, which sits around $60 year round (i.e. not worth buying old switch games to play them)

Don't get me wrong, I agree with your general sentiment. However, from someone coming from a high end PC who was interested in jumping into this era, it makes no sense whatsoever for me to pay for this overpriced hardware slop and ecosystem rather than just continuing to emulate.

this whole debacle just makes the gamer community as a whole look terrible.

Good.

Keep in mind that as a handheld device that actually is getting a fan and better clockspeeds when docked this time around, it's still stuck at limitations that could never match up with the competition. Yet it still pulls ahead of PC handhelds in most areas, especially given their limitations in upscaling. I fucking hate that upscaling is a standard now, but we're stuck with that and it's infuriating to see tech and prices stall on needing this now.

that's a fair point, for sure