Is Outer Heaven possible in real life? Could you theoretically form your own military-based “country” in the middle of the ocean?
Is Outer Heaven possible in real life...
military-based “country”
Switzerland and Finland are pretty much as close to Outer Heaven you can do in real life.
No. The base would be easily spotted by satellites, then it's just a matter of time before someone with a better army wipes it the fuck out.
International waters are too deep to realistically build your own infrastructure in it without substantial cost. Even if you manage that, you still need supplies from the outside which can be used to apply pressure on your company to behave a certain way and adhere to certain rules, if the UN doesn't just arbitrarily decide to disperse you for being outside international law and oversight.
Outer Heaven only worked because:
a) Big Boss had access to a portion of a magic money fund
b) Cipher was covertly protecting it from interference and propping it up
c) Highly skilled and intelligent people inexplicably lacked the self interest to put their skills to use with literally anybody else, just because "Big Boss is... LE COOL!"
It doesn't work practically. In real life, PMCs are strictly managed and overseen precisely to prevent someone from building their own private army and taking over some tiny shithole country somewhere. Rules based order and all that.
International waters are too deep to realistically build your own infrastructure in it without substantial cost.
please don't tell me you think deep-water oil-drilling platforms themselves actually connect to the sea-floor
en.wikipedia.org
It was even raided by several parties, including mercs
You need anchors for the platforms, and those aren't cheap to set up that far down. The only thing that justifies their cost is literally the oil you get out of it, so if you're trying to hide a fuck off private army base (laughable because of satellites), you're not gonna be openly selling crude, or setting up on a major deposit to begin with. Ergo, you need a magic money fund to do something like this to begin with, and if you have that much money, you have eyes on you anyway.
All I can think of is how many codes these platforms violate.
oh i'm with you on it being highly impractical
the reasoning, not so much
you don't need to anchor because you won't drill oil, just have tugs to keep you on track
but this only works if you take contracts near where you are currently stationed as you probably have no runway for planes and helicopters have shit reach
better to set up motherbase somewhere in bumfuck africa or some island and have multiple smaller staging points all around the world
the magic money fund is a given when looking at the scale of operation, no matter if you base yourself on the sea or land, i would think
How many
What's wrong with them?
yeah people do it all the time
sure is Anon Babble here. i'm not complaining it's amusing.
There's not enough engineers that speak Kikongo to build it irl.
Yeah except Mother Base is not Outer Heaven
The one thing that pisses me off the most about Metal Gear franchise is that the technology was way too advanced for the time period.
It's not just possible anon, it's real.
look for "operazione gladio" on wikipedia
The Metal Gear series proposes a hypothetical scenario where Private Military Companies (PMC's) are the militaries of the world. When the country wants to wage war, they don't use their own army, they hire a PMC to fight for them.
If you're willing to sell your services to the right people, you could possibly survive for a while. It's over once they want to tie up loose ends though
What the fuck would they eat? You can't live on just fish.
Assuming that by Outer Heaven you mean free independent sovereign state of mercenaries that Big Boss dreamed about.
In real life mercenaries were never truly independent. They were always controlled by intelligence agencies. Two most famous mercenary leaders that probably inspired Kojima were Mike Hoare and Bob Denard, worked for British and French intelligence respectively. To be truly independent you would need a large strong military and nuclear weapons, you would need a country with functional economy to feed these. Even then, you wouldn't be allowed to accept mercenary work openly, you will probably end up as North Korea.
Yes.
However, who are you going to cry to once someone decides that they've had enough of you and they just bomb you from miles and miles away with massive ships?
No because america will nuke you
Yes as long as you fight for Israel.
yeah, because the military totally doesn't have super advanced tech that they don't tell the public about
No.
They have borderline magical tech to build such a platform without getting blown away by high tides or hurricanes, and even a bigger eco to support the personnel and maintenance.
It's like a more unified Rapture.
History of Venice
Patton says things that correct
higher ups start seething and prepare to bring the hammer down on him
he dies
within a few years realize he was right and start creating your own werwolf-tier plans
I hate them. At least they didn't damn his memory.
is Outer Heaven possible in real life?
Only if God wills it.
what do they eat?
I hated that kojumba didn't allow us to fully explore inside.
It'd probably be easier to overthrow an african shithole in the belt if you have an army. You'll have to continuously fight to stay in power but with an MGS tier PMC local rebels should be a piece of cake.
Whatever animals Boss fultons.
Fish i think
and what do they drink?
Wild asses.
pee
Big Boss is... LE COOL!
but he is though?
He's cool purely because of propaganda, the man himself is an asshole and anyone who got close should have seen that real fast. Venom behaves nothing like the real one, he behaves like the "legend".
idk, unsalted water maybe
Mother Base would be so comfy to live on
well idk i only played 1&2
be mother base soldier
living soldier life
bunk with a bunch of men
most don't even speak english
big boss recruited another one today
best marksman you've ever seen but he doesn't wash after he shits
water rationing cutting down on bathing time made matters worse
patrolling the platforms, a welcome breath of fresh air
big boss coming in off pequod today from a mission
he approaches you wordlessly and stares
holy shit he's drenched head to toe in blood
you snap to anyway and salute
"welcome home, boss!"
he draws a uragan and shoots you dead center mass with it
Did soldiers in Outer Heaven have kids with each other?
Why do you think Quiet is in a cage
Why aren't the female soldiers in cages too?
Yes
unceremoniously assassinated by the government
Pretty sure Big Boss and Outer Heaven can't exist IRL.
They don't need sunlight to live, so they're below decks
For the men safety
playing MGSV
cutscene starts where Quiet starts showering
I can tell that the model has accurate 3D modeled Joost labia
men start gathering around and hooting
some start masturbating
realize something's off about them
they're all Japs now
they all have the same face
it's Kojima's face
Seriously what the absolute fuck were they thinking
Fruit and vegetables. There are hydroponics bays that you can visit in game
Kojimmy did it because he could and he knew you'd still eat it