[NEWS] Bungie may lose court case because they sunset their own game

A motion to dismiss is the first thing a defendant does because it has no negative ramifications if it's denied, and it being denied doesn't necessarily mean they will lose the case.

I don't know much about the matrix stuff but the bungie/destiny stuff is pretty egregious, I think they may actually be guilty.

Is Destiny one even worth playing as a single player game?

it's cuz the guys who made the code were replaced by jeets

what's even the original case
someone copied them or they copied someone?

So basically, the case is that some writer is accusing Bungie of ripping them off for the first two campaigns of Destiny 2, and because the campaigns are no longer available in game, they had to resort to fan-maintained sources and videos as proof, which the judge is saying doesn't count as evidence?
You'd think something like the statute of limitations would prevent such a late protest to the story of a game as popular as Destiny, especially since the Curse of Osiris is like 8 years old.
Also, if Bungie's evidence of not ripping this author off isn't accepted, then what evidence does this author have that they were ripped off, if second hand sources like youtube and wikis are apparently not valid?
That being said, Bungie deserves all their shit for their practices, they should've either made a new game instead of removing the old content or designed their system better to support as much content as they were going to put out for this 8 year old game.

I hope they get sued into bankruptcy. Fuck these assholes.

the negative ramification is that now you're going to have to pay many times what you've already paid lawyers to that point

No, not really. The raids are the best part and the campaigns didn't even get decent until The Witch Queen for Destiny 2 and that was like 2022.

I hope they get fucking reamed in court, the sooner that name disappears, the better

Bought

You forgot the massive asterisk that goes along with that "purchase" that Sony made.

Actually I have to add more because I have been autistically going more depth into this scenario and how stupid it is. The moonlanding footage itself was lost..taped over by some random at NASA and they had to rely on homeowners VHS recordings of it live on TV in order to "recover" the footage. So according to the same logic, the moonlanding footage is not in renewable form because those were fan made VHS recordings and not actual ones produced by NASA.
Bungie hire this man! I will represent you (for a sony tier hefty fee)

Bungie allegedly stole the story, plot, and characters from some guy that wrote a book a few years before D2 came out.

Destiny players have to be the most stockholm syndrome'd consumers on the planet at this point.

Also when you look at the mentality of the average destiny player, you'll realize that they got exactly the game they deserve and that you should never feel bad for them

the gunplay is pretty tight
I remember the hype was unreal before release, beating the campaign and being angry the whole time because I expected something way more epic

This
t. destiny 2 addict but holy fuck the people that defend bungie for any mistake they make need to be killed

Oh my god that's right they don't even have complete creative control over it. LOL. Sony even tried to go to court to cease it over how poor they were doing, but I don't recall how it played out. I bet if they did it again they could absolutely do a hostile take over of it. Fuck I would. Actually maybe I wouldn't because they aren't even worth it.

I've been out of the loop, they fucking deleted their old campaigns? Holy kek, hope they get what they deserve.

Is there ANY vidya gam company that's managed to completely and utterly trash their reputation as bad as Bungie? Blizzard is the only one I can think that comes close.

this is bullshit any modern gaming company has version controll on its games, they have all update versions of destiny no fucking way they have not impossible

It's not like they're missing out on anything. Even if Bungie did show the court the original campaign it would be a complete fucking disappointment, there's a reason they deleted it

It's literally gone forever, you can't put in a vanilla disc of destiny 2 and play it without requiring an update, and they never created an offline dev build of the full game.

thats not the point or for them to decide.. imagine you buy food and suddenly the grocery wagie comes into your home and takes away half your food... and you argue hurr you wouldnt have liked the food durrr

they paid for it

copyright infringement?

I'm confused, are bungle suing youtubers for posting videos of the red war and stuff over CRI? Or are members of the player base suing bungle for LITERALLY STEALING the game they paid for (the red war campaign)? What the fuck is happening at this circus of a studio?

Shame about the enviromental artists being locked in this shitty company.

Does the Destiny 2 disc even include maps or is it all just assets needed for the installer?

apparently that's not even the problem they're getting sued because they copied their shitty walmart hotdog from someone else, not because they took it back

using youtube and wikis as evidence

Isn't that what Karl Jobst tried to use and got btfo of court in the process? Isn't this a multi million dollar company why the fuck are they as stupid as some random youtuber?

and there are people who still have faith in Marathon

Destiny sucked from day one in my opinion, the first game looked cool and multiplayer was so so everything else was a boring grindy mess

If you don't try and dismiss the case it basically means you already think you're gonna lose, in which case you should just skip the courts and settle with the other party instead.
If you think you have a solid defence then you should try for dismissal since the judge may agree, saving you a bunch of money, and if not the work and research that your lawyer did is reaearch that he was going to have to do anyway if it went to trial, so unlike you assertion it is not a massive additional cost to seek dismissal.

Seeing them get fucked by their own hubris is nice. So much for vaulted content potentially being available again.

Wait, so Red War is basically lost media now?

It's always just been an installer kek, even Destiny 1 is like that.

Sue bungie into oblivion already.
Then the millions of people who paid $60+ for Destiny 2 will have justice.

Karl used Reddit posts which is even worse.

Yep, their excuse was "Oh the game got too big :)" and they've been constantly deleting old campaigns and dlc (paid dlc) from the game
Imagine if you could never go back and play Halo 1 or 2 or 3 again and you could only go as far back as Halo 5. Can't even emulate them. That's basically Destiny 2.

which is odd because the pursuant needs evidence to prove that bungie copied their novel to make the red war campaign, but there's no fucking evidence anymore. So even if the Bungie could use youtube videos, why would they give their opponent the evidence?
Why is Bungie even getting sued despite the complete lack of evidence?

Wait qrd on why they're being sued?

That is insane, they should be sued for THAT instead of stealing some sci-fi authors slop.

I agree, it was a massive disappointment considering how insanely hyped up it was prior to its release with all of the gdcs and dev talks and shit that they did. The concept art drove people fucking wild, only to find out that not only is the game almost nothing like what bungie had advertised for years, that it's not even close to being a finished product and never would be. Still amazes me that it didn't flop like anthem did, but only because people were enamored by the legendary developers of the Halo series. A decade of clenching assholes whispering to themselves "surely this expansion will be it"

They were old chuds and needed to go
Had to make way for a modern development team of modern sensibilities. You wouldn't want to work with a whole bunch of old, white, racist scumbags either

No one has faith in this slop except the biggest Bungie cocksuckers

the biggest Bungie cocksuckers

Sadly, they are still people that happen to occupy the same planet that we do.

The pursuant could maybe present official Bungie trailers and marketing material outlining the basic story and since trailers only paint broad strokes without specifics then it could be easier to claim copying and say see look these points resemble my story since the more broad and vague you describe a plot the more they can resemble another and then Bungie has no proof to present that it differs in details.

I'm reading some of the examples used to back up his claim of Bungi stealing his work and almost all of them are fucking retarded.
The bad guys are called the Red Legion. A name that has never EVER been used to describe a legion of dudes wearing red ever before. His Red Legion and their Red Legion both weAR FUCKING REEEED COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMEEEEEENT SCREEEEEE

God it just looks like they released a alpha build.

and yet I hope he bleeds bungie dry for every penny

That awful UI with all that unnecessary shit up there

THESE are the same guys who made Halo?

What's funny is that this problem extended INTO 343 as well lol
343 took bungies old work on halo stuff and had so many people run train on it that by the time halo infinite was out literally not a single person in the company had worked on the original code or engine and they could not add new gametypes into the game because the fucking main menu UI couldn't support it. Monkeys on typewriters except theyre making the Room instead of shakespeare

I bought a ps4 for it and kept getting told

the real game begins at level 20...

Forcing myself through their lifeless boring world and repetitive gameplay to get to 20 and it still suck.

You can do that vault once a week to get gear to do it faster!

Wow! I hated it immediately, normies are truly a cancer even if they're my beloved friends

I read it as Uncircuncision Active...

Probably not even the suer thought Bungie would be this fucking retarded to not keep their archived builds functional. Imagine if Blizzard wanted to revive the Classic version of WoW but their old builds were unrecoverable.

Can you give me the TL;DR of all the claims so we can see how far the rabbit hole goes?
I swear if there is anything about "Guardians" I am going to bust a gut.

yeah thats fucking bullshit lol

If your talking about the design documentation we have those but each engine was tune slightly different and those changes were often done on scraps of paper that were thrown away. It's very common even today on job sites where you jurry rig fixes.

But you see. Bungie can no longer present their game to show where anything differs.
So now the court evidence consists only of some evidence showing similarities and nothing showing the works are different can be submitted.

No, they pretty much all got bullied out of the company and had their bonuses stolen. Marty O'Donnel goes into great detail on this in a somewhat recent interview he did with The Act Man. I hope Dave Candland ends up somewhere good, he was at monolith but they obviously just fucking died because Warner thought it would be a good idea to have them make a faggot super hero game, and someone needed to pay for Rocksteady's failure.
cand.land/

Just buy another game. Literally any other game.

I still have my ps4 disc copies of destiny 1 and 2, I hope theres some class action lawsuit or something so I could get a quick buck

Destiny is just borderlands for poors with 0 friends. Absolutely nothing of value was lost.

Next thread please.

Why do the guns look so blocky is it fucking minecraft?

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It's all theater. A fucking bottle rocket pipe dream. The reason we can't (don't) reproduce the tech is because there's fuck all reason to go to the moon. The brown poor people countries no longer care about america dabbing on them.

the Curse of Osiris is like 8 years old.

That's a normal amount of time for court cases.

All the guys who worked on Halo have fucked off elsewhere

I did, they keep pulling me back because I get hopeful for the next expansion and want to play the next raid.

What Roblox game is this?

IIRC its about the story of red war being plagiarised from some other story by some other dude, and thats why the red war needs to be checked.
But bunglo straight up removed it from the game and now cant even bring it back because d2 changed so much, and thats why they have to use 3rd party videos of the campaign.
As far as I know bunglo never got sued for removing content people paid for.

Remember when they said you could use your dropship to meet up with your friends in real time? Yeah, none of us thought that would just be a fancy way of saying "you can join someone else's instance" like almost every fucking multiplayer game in existence, then we didn't even get the fucking dropships, you just teleport in. The 2013 sony conference was so scripted it should be considered false advertisement.

I still have no idea what this game has to do with Marathon.

STOP KILLING GAMES

God I forgot about the useless cosmetic that was the ship

china landed on the moon a couple years ago but literally no one gave a shit

Reminder that Sony paid nearly $4B for this shit hole of a company kek

It has nothing to do with Marathon other than the name and the ship. Apparently they have some aliens on the ship but we won't really know about that until after launch.

I'm sure they did, just like how they also recently found a huge cave system full of gold but it just looks like someone spraypainted the rocks kek.

They fucking should have, but destiny players are basically like battered wives at this point

he didnt mean to release another shit expansion! He's going to make another Forsaken soon!

What a bunch of clowns.

Skill issue

Reminder Bungie straight up deleted hundreds of dollars worth of content thay players paid for and they just bent over and took it

Skill issue

My raid report is pretty good

pay money

Bungie decides to "update" the game and remove the DLC

money stolen

bungie is managed by complete scumbags. that's why they lost a huge chunk of their old talent back when they got bought out by ActiBliz, they were like NOPE NOT WORKING FOR BOBBY KOTICK

Literally 70 year old technology. Of course nobody gives a shit.

Are we supposed to celebrate when they make a plane or a computer as well??

You want our respect chinks how about you do something new instead of the white man's sloppy seconds?

That's where your issue lies.

but it just looks like someone spraypainted the rocks kek.

they're also the most environmentally "green" country on earth! A mining company there rejuvenated an entire hill in one day using this one simple trick.

listen pal I hate chinks as much as you do, I'm just using it as an example for that other anon

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How do we feel about Bungie going under once Marathon flops catastrophicly

Some author alleges that they plagiarized one of his unfinished works. The funny thing about it is that it'd be an open and shut case that'd probably be thrown out of court except Bungie basically shot themselves in the foot through their model of deleting not only old DLC as new ones come out but also deleting the ENTIRE original campaign.

Kek we do that in america too, that's hydroseeding. I see it near construction sites all the time

What exactly is the copyright infringment here? How are youtube videos not enough to disprove infringement? Is it over the actual gameplay? Did they put a minigame in their loading screen? This fucking reeks of ancient legal systems not understanding how technology works. Yes obviously Bungie shouldn't be deleting content and I patiently await the day where the employee of every propriety live service provider experiences what it's like to be burnt alive. That doesn't change the fact that video proof should be enough unless the claim is referring to deleted code.

I celebrate all triple AAA companies (or tripple ASS, I as I like to call them. Lol!) failing financially
I am devastated that ubisoft is still surviving due to tencent's lifesupport. I want all of these shitty retarded game devs to lose their jobs because it would be really funny

Feels pretty decent
Bungie never made a single good game. I don't exactly hate them either but I see them as one of the most overrated studios on the planet

My guess is the judge's logic is that they can alter YouTube video content as they see fit to suit them better in court

Myth and Oni are bad games

Reee.

Looking forward to it.
I've literally never played Destiny and I still hate them.

odds Bungie goes belly up when marathon invariably fails? If not belly up at least Sony wrests control.

Umm you don't understand I need a popup to tell me how many rounds I have lost upon reload.

Person A says "I wrote a story and bungie copied it and that's the main plot for Red War"
Bungie says "we can't even disprove you, that campaign no longer exists"
The courts said "what the fuck are you idiots talking about"
That's the whole thing summed up, it's specifically a copyright issue with the writing iirc

Fuck them for ruining Halo by giving it to 343.

rest in piss

That's a normal time for a court case to end, but the case is only from October of last year.
courtlistener.com/docket/69218284/martineau-v-bungie-inc/

I can imagine the judge looking at bungie and asking himself why no one has sued them yet for literally taking away content people paid money for

Anon those are nutrients and seeds that actually grow, not oil based paint.

That's fair

the gunplay is pretty tight

This is in reference to the aggressive aim assistance and bullet magnetism that enables you to hit shots while flying through the air. Every time destiny "pros" go to other games they get brutally stomped because they rely on aim assistance and bullet magnetism to hit shots and it doesn't exist to the same degree in other games.

The sound design and general I will give you are great, but the "gunplay" is literally just the guns aiming for you

I can't comprehend your mindset, and you should probably think about that.

ignores the thousands and twitch streams of videos corroborating the exact same information

how old is this court

Have you played the raids before? That's really the main thing for me, they're pretty fun at first.

Doesn't matter tho
It's fun to PLAY moment to moment. Even if it's a pseudo thing and youre not actually that good at it
It's a powerfantasy game like most in the genre

the law code requires the original be used for evidence and not a copy (unless the original is unavailable in which case it gets complicated)

This could possibly track? You need explicit permission from youtube to do this though (I'm assuming you mean replacing the file loaded when you play content from a yt url) and it's only granted to big channels. If I pull up yt studio I don't get an option to change the file and if I wanted to do this it would be a new url with a new file time so it would be really easy to figure it out. I guess you could bribe google but that seems really auditable and not something Bungie could do.
There is no fucking way there isn't enough documentation on this to at least get a transcript of the entire story. If they are actually throwing out years old recording footage of this it's a joke.

Years worth of hard work, music, art etc, just gone forever because GAME TO BIG

I cannot wrap my brain around this.

The gunplay was nice before the controller update. There was a time when KBM players weren't punished simply for playing on the better system with better controls, so not only did Bungie nerf KBM by doubling and even tripling the kick on some guns, bloom is 25% larger and has a 12% growth per shot passively compared to controller, and controller was given an accent of higher aim assist (literal bullet magnetism, it's an in game stat that is modifiable) and cross hair magnetism.
There's before and after videos showcasing just how fucked over the KBM player base was. All the best players play controller now as a result.
Not only did they gut KBM, they buffed controller so console babies could get their fix of player retention marketing.

I don't know what the shit is in the chinese pic, I just assumed it was hydroseed.

they're fun until you keep failing the same mechanic over and over again because one faggot keeps aggroing the instakill enemy or keeps running straight into three knights with a shotgun for no fucking reason

Got the link to the interview?

The judge said because it is third party.
Bungie claims they made an original product.
Judge says please show what you made
Bungie says they can't.
They then say here is some third party claiming we made it.
Judge says if they claim they made something they should show what they made first hand

Yes they are
Myth had a semi-interesting story paired with dogshit gameplay in what was the prime RTS era. Myth 1 released the same year as Age of Empires and Myth 2 came out just a bit before AoE2. The Myth games cannot compete with their contemporaries which is why Myth was a dead and forgotten series until a youtuber turned it into storytime content
Likewise Oni was a terrible example of being an action game, a shooter or a cyberpunk cop simulator. It got some popularity by leeching off the success of Ghost in the Shell but had no merits of its own

They're still using a heavily modified version of the engine they used for Halo: Reach. Apparently they even had to scale down Marathon quite a bit from what they originally wanted to do. Fuck the tiger engine, it feels great but it's time to retire it.

I think the thing about footage is they can't prove it wasn't tampered with? This is conjecture, of course, just that it makes sense they can't use YouTube as a viable source to prove or disprove anything without delving further into a rabbit hole of discovery. It'd be easier to assume YouTube has a bias, in that creators can edit videos (and that's full stop, I'm assuming). But yea, clown show fucking court case, bungie deserves to get the boot

but had no merits of its own

It was fun

I get that, LFG is fucking miserable. Thankfully I almost always had friends that wanted to try to complete them on day one (or two, now lol) for the emblem.

youtu.be/eOriiHNw1Fg

TBF I did hear that many of the old devs were tired of Halo and wanted to move far away from FPS games.

was it really tho?

Is this why Datto has been reuploading footage of his old Destiny 2 streams? I'm still subscribed to him and I've been seeing a lot of reuploads of launch D2 content.

deleting content from your game

For what FUCKING purpose

I had fun, so it was fun

sure, but then the gunplay should be called fun instead of great/good/amazing whatever else is regularly parroted. I agree it's fun because it makes it easy to hit shots and live out my space wizard fantasy, but there needs to be a general acknowledgement that the game basically aims for you and that's an extremely large part of why the "gunplay" feels so good

Modern Bungie are a bunch of totally incompetent fucking faggots. They are about to eat shit and they completely deserve it.

ye

You'd think something like the statute of limitations would prevent such a late protest to the story of a game as popular as Destiny, especially since the Curse of Osiris is like 8 years old.

It's only eight years, that's fuck all.

Also, if Bungie's evidence of not ripping this author off isn't accepted, then what evidence does this author have that they were ripped off, if second hand sources like youtube and wikis are apparently not valid?

Bungie are game devs, they should be able to just show their game.

but it doesn't run anymore

Should've maintained your code base better simple as now pay up.

Nah he's just washed and nostalgia baiting, more than likely. He should just do what the other Destinytubers are doing and try to migrate your primary audience and slowly dip their toes into other games, expanding their list of watchable, crowd drawing videos that won't be insta-algorithmed out of existence.

according to Bungie its due to their spaghetti code slowly unraveling and deleting entire blocks of content prevents total unravel

fun gameplay = good gameplay

Ngl i kinda like them, it's what i imagine you would give to disposable drones, but the colors ruin it for me

So what even happens if the judge gets a working copy? Is he expected to do a playthrough of it himself?

ah jeez, this engine is so limiting

we gotta remove le content because it's over 100GB and too bloated

Destiny 2 is currently over 140GB on Steam

Makes their Marathon reboot with the same "limiting" engine

I know that this is the official story, but it's total bullshit.

To force players to buy all newly released DLC

Oh you liked the old stuff, oh well its architecturally outdated and we'll have to delete it

guess you'll just have to buy our new content, consumer-kun!

That's not like a copper mine or something?

true, that's why indians are so happy

This is the only reason that makes sense. Someone should probably explain to the country this lawsuit is taking place in that copying buildable versions of a 100GB EULA'd to shit propriety live service game, over what is probable tens of thousands of versions into tape disks in cold storage is probably a waste of money unless you get sued. I'm guessing every single AAA company in the world just watched this and spent another million on making sure they have every version of every build of their game backed up.
ffs youtube has file hashing and filetimes. You can't tamper with the FILE (.mp4, .opus, whatever) that plays when you watch a video unless you have a giant account, and even then you have to make a ticket, which is auditable (i.e, you can subpoena records)
I have 26 videos with rougly 50k views uploaded. If I want to change a minor editing error I have to reupload the video and make a whole new post (with a new hash and filetime and all the other shit)

So what happens to the case? Does everyone lose?

judge forced to do red war, is just getting mad at the mechanical fucking monkey coding, dies to bugs, glitches into the wall, spends 4 hours on the Tower trying to figure out where to go, thinks he beats the campaign right as he accidentally queues for Crucible

"GUILTY. fuck this game"

A man can dream

Bungie is gonna get fucked over in court because they deleted old campaigns and can't show them to the judge

Imagine if this was the thing that made devs take preservation seriously

Chief Manygame say, game should be fun, like buffalo hunting

How can anyone see Destiny as being a good Bungie game? When Destiny 1 came out it look like your generic sci fi game combine with Borderlands gameplay.

Bioware, Bethesda is on their way

How can anyone see Destiny as being a good Bungie game?

I don't know man. Let's continue to circle jerk and agree how bad it is. Now this is REAL discussion.

It's literally green paint. They really expected a country known for illegitimate business practices to somehow become legitimate when it came to "carbon reduction initiative" business.

Anon, the chinese will literally paint hillsides green and plant rebar painted pink to make it look like from the air or satellites like rolling lush hillsides and meadows of flowers. I'm not kidding, you can look up videos of them doing it

no they would pull the relevant data (in this case the text related to the story) and then do an actual non-clownshow copyright infringement case. Also the 'arty lost.

it was fresh for the time and people were riding the wave of fantastic bungie games for the past decade.

Bungie basically shot themselves in the foot through their model of deleting not only old DLC as new ones come out but also deleting the ENTIRE original campaign.

Holy shit they’re retard

What happens if I Ghost Ogre the Ki-sikil as a chain 2 response?

It's so fucking hilarious homie

they would literally just make a powerpoint presentation and show it to the judges

apparantly, you should never start a game company with a B, it seems

Moot question since LiveTwin is a meme archetype

Based fucking response, I absolutely kneel king

a Who question?

Nothing no one puts ghost orge in their deck twins win. GGEZ

the guns are soo... symetrical blocky.. they look like they are build from legos lol would be cool if it actually was that you know building the entire gun out of different lego blocks with different attributes and gun modes and scopes etc... but nope its just shit art

They kept the gear from before in, but made it unavailable for anybody after
They could have spent time updating the old shit and slowly reintroducing it back into the new system they concocted
They could have reimbursed all players

I can't think of a more anti consumer action than literally taking away what someone paid for

except Destiny 2 was real

keep a single copy of GGEZ in the deck so you can hit the Crossout during battle phase before damage step to Designate GGEZ

I still can’t believe you people are ok with them removing content you paid for

Does AoE let you throw grenades into huge mobs of enemies and see their limbs and organs go flying everywhere?

Literally not a single person in this thread feels this way

who?
I don't play Bungieslop

They should've just made Destiny 3, it's not like there hasn't been story beats since then where it would've made sense to start fresh.
The people who lose access to their guns and armor from releasing a new game already suffered it from Destiny 1.

Wouldn't this work in their favor though, since they can't be proven guilty and people are supposedly presumed innocent until they are?

probably because Bungie promised "10 YEARS OF UPDATES" for Destiny 2

MMOs get shut down, multiplayer servers get canned, destiny gets sunset. It's a part of the gaming ecosystem at this point. Scream and cry and shit yourself all you like, the only good game is the one that's entirely stored on your hard drive

I feel like I'm going crazy when I see this certain archetype....the type that thinks destiny was some ultra rich vibrant setting with sooo much "lore". The same person who watches hours of modern halo and star wars "lore" videos. The guy who memorizes shitty trivia and theories of a franchise that is obviously taken over by retards and the new content is no where near the same quality as before.

These consumers will dig through a 50 meter deep literbox filled with cat turds for a single fortune cookie of writing. Seeing destiny 2 in person and most of the dialogue is delivered in monotone and obviously bored actors who sound like soccer moms.
It had an idea of a serious setting but kept veering off into ironic quirky chungus territory where they're so self aware that you're immortal and this is just a grind for stoners.

Sick people. Deeply unwell sick and disturbed individuals

Anyone that still a fan for Bungie till now deserve what they get. Destiny 1 show all the red flags of what Bungie will turn into. I still remember retards defending the cut content or how you had to buy full price DLCs.

gonna be real, I fucking hate Bungie but I really don't see how the court can't use design docs/videos of the campaign in its entirety to toss this case out

oh well the videos are from a third party

okay, hardly a compelling argument, it's not as though you can't verify that the game was played. Inb4 they're like "well maybe every single one of the people recording these different videos were in on the con" or somesuch absolute retarded drivel.

I'm not but I don't see what I can do besides what I'm already doing (not buying any more of their games).
I thought it was gonna be cool because there was magic in it and space fantasy is something I want to see more of but there was just fucking nothing to it.

If they go bankrupt, they won't even be able to keep that promise.

I always hated the character and armor designs in destiny. It's always some bullshit where it's almost kind of cool but then there's a random element that makes it look fucking stupid and ugly.
Found out they based most of destiny off Mobeus somehow, not sure how they got there

Then those same devs made fucking Concord. They were CONVINCED they were geniuses. Idk what echo chamber they were in, maybe stepping out of the destiny Bungie eco chamber showed everyone how fucking dog shit their designs were. I'm fucking glad. Destiny 2 is the ugliest fucking game I've ever seen.

It's probably more for precedent. The last thing they want is some faglord uploading 100 faked videos from 100 fake youtube accounts to try and steal money from someone else in a lawsuit

I managed to quit destiny when they added a 9 minute tribute to George Floyd during one of their dlc reveal streams

It's so weird that the concept art for Destiny were cool looking, but in game they look so generic.

He could have his own personal recordings of the campaign or trailers and other advertising instead of some random literally who's
Ultimately its not a criminal case but a civil one, you barely have to prove shit

always online games be like

miss me with that shit

The game the old guard wanted to make never released

It as a free pack in with my 1080ti and I never played it beyond part of the intro level. Hated the aesthetic, the characters were all ugly, and the game didn't feel very fun. Did I miss out or what?

virgin westoid thinks his novel idea was stolen

sues the studio and demands they prove him right

chad nippongo thinks his novel idea was stolen

sets himself on fire and commits a war crime

I only played Myth 2 campaign, but it was pretty great. RTS without base building had always been more niche, so I'm not surprised it didn't reach the heights of RTS greats.

the true Yamato Damashii

boob window

Lel nubungie would never allow that

This reminds me so much of the Spenders vs Archie shit
It takes extra to be this incompetent

youtube.com/watch?v=c1QxSfMUujo

Quite a shame. All we got were these lame ass Warframe looking armors from Destiny.

Since we're here to rip on destiny, can I just say that I fucking hates the iconic trio?
The cayde, ikora and blue nigga were the worst characters of any game I've come across.
Seriously, they established 3 races, and 3 classes with a stereotype. They make the trip with the most public exposure be complete contrarian subversion of these tropes, but not in a clever way, just in the most annoying way.

Cool intimidating terminators? Edgy hooded assassin's? I think it's obvious

make him quirky chungus

A female warlock? Could be a cute college Hermione type who's curious about the mysteries of the universe and is mostly book smarts.

Nah make her an angry nigger who's always fucking angry and is actually a stuck up cunt who is the least curious person in the group.

Angel vampire race? But a space knight? Yeah could be cool if you lean into an inhuman alucard type knight that...

EH! Wrong, he's another stoic black man. Doesn't display any nobility, or philosophy. Is somehow responsible for founding the only city and it's a gay communist space station for non whites.

I only heard about some guy named Osiris. Oh turns out he's a queer.

This shitass game was way worse than Blizzard. Worse than the last of us. It's a fucking nightmare of rainbow haired self hating Whiteys focused on using a neon eye rape toy shooter to push woke shit on stoners.

This is why I do not like raids at all. What is the point of the hardest content also dropping the best weapons when there is nothing left to use them on? BiS should come before the raid, the raid should be not for getting better gear but something else entirely like cosmetics or housing items, or something else equally meaningless to power.

God it's so fucking ugly, legit makes me wonder why bungie abandoned the old way they used to design armor. It made sense and was appropriate for the world. Like 90% of the new shit is hideous and doesn't make any sense

I used to work at Bungie, but even if I didn't any software engineer would know this reeks of bullshit. Give an engineer a few days to sync down some old code and content from source control and build it. It would be a huge pain in the ass and would take the engineer away from other tasks, but it is "feasible" to do.

I wonder if Tyson knows this, though. He's a designer, not a software engineer. He would know what source control is but I wonder if someone is just feeding him lies and he's unaware of what a lie it is.

No one is okay with it, but also no one is going to go through the effort of doing something to change the system. At the end of the day, bungoids stole 60$ from me. But I am currently no longer playing their skinnerbox gachaslop. I'm free of their chains, and that's worth more than $60 to me

Hunter sexo

Would this not also establish grounds to sue Blizzard for replacing Overwatch with a fully monetized "sequel"?

It looks like they didn't even bother to make it cool or exotic looking monkey helmet

charming rogue

stuck-up nerd

strong and tough

seems fine to me (I don't read lore), the real problem is that cayde is the only one with any interesting personality. Everyone else is so fucking boring (Eris is ok), and having two "no fun allowed" characters in the main trio is fucking ass for character dynamics. And then they killed Cayde in Destiny 2 and gave every fucking side character an exaggerated version of his quirked up white boy personality

Two of them are nogs and one is a gay robot

T-THE AWOKEN GUY ISN-

he's a nigger, jerry! Get him out of here!

if people would just stop playing gaas shit the problem would work itself out

I hope Bungie goes bankrupt, they don't make good games anymore anyways

I knew a guy that played Destiny 1.
At some point he got sick of the game's bullshit and in order to free himself from the game.
He took the disc out and snapped it in half.
As a way to truly free himself from it's shackles.

You didn't miss anything
But you did unfortunately got the cursed numbers
Pay up now

You overestimate the abilities of these """"""""""software engineers""""""""" my freimd

Like I said, I used to work there. Despite how shitty Destiny is, Bungie has a lot of smart people working for them. The dumb decisions come from the upper levels of management and/or designers. Someone could easily figure this out and get it done, hell I probably could have done it if I still worked there.

Should have sold it to some chump instead of just breaking the disc.

I used to work at Bungie

You got proof you work there?

Bro break in and do it
You gotta give us the red war and forsaken back bro
Do it for us
I'll bake you a cake bro pls

I said the same thing to him and he simply said that he wouldn't of been truly free if he didn't destroy the very thing that was binding him.
He had to destroy the disc.

Your bro got something wrong with him if he had to go that far. lol

he sounds retarded that is prove enough

Nothing that will convince you, they took back my badge when I got laid off last year. How about this though, a gift from Activision when we launched Destiny 1. It's a metallic-ish version of the Alexa ghost product we used to sell. It doesn't have any electrical components, it's just a shell to sit on a shelf on a cheap little pedestal.

it's just a shell

wow, lore accurate too

Maybe show some art or Bungie work you did with a time stamp.

4 billion, wasn't it?

Put it in a jar and coom on it

I didn't do art, I was a software engineer. All my work is in source control or spread across the company network. I could show you my drivers license and my name in the game credits, but I'm not going to go that far.

How about some holiday/birthday cards sent from the company, not sure why I kept these. I don't know if we ever sold these to the public, maybe this isn't very legitimate proof.

Hmmmm never seen Destiny birthday cards before so I'll give you benefit of the doubt. Since you work at Bungie tell me how the fuck did they fumble the original Destiny to what we have now? It's management wasn't it? :[

bro you dont get it its because everything in the game can be 3d printed because you can upload your mind into 3d printed stuff and like its like ghost in the shell bro its so deep do you get it DO YOU GET IT? ITS SO DEEP.

Okay, I'm beginning to believe. Final test: post hand.

I'm a glowfag. The amount of shit that existed only on paper in old safes that just gets unceremoniously destroyed without even a review because need more room or in corrupted files on sharedrives that get completely purged without a second thought would make you apostatic. I had detailed files I created for a classified project not even a few years old that apparently all got purged. I found out when the the problem set reared its head again and I tried to request my own documents and got told they were all gone.

So yes, if this is how the fucking Intelligence Community operates you can only image how high turn over corporate offices functions. And ya, I can 10,000% believe the moon landing tapes got deleted because of the above.

Worked* at Bungie. Like I said earlier, I place most of the blame on management and designers. Can't say anything about where they're going nowadays, I haven't been following it aside from glancing at Marathon which looks boring.

Okay, don't jack off to it too much.

there are glowies posting on Anon Babble RIGHT NOW

Not in a civil case.
In those its about liability, not guilt or innocence
For the plaintiff, which is the dude suing Bungie. Hes got his evidence, being what he wrote and then being as unfair to him, every cherry picked detail that supports his claim that he collected himself
Where as bungie, since they dont actually have their own data now and the judge said 3rd part recordings from fans that have been edited, even if not for the purposes of hiding anything. Just edited to be put online and shit. Are not reliable because of the editing as they cant prove that its exactly the same as what they originally had.
Bungie is in a bad spot because without that all they can argue basically is whatever the plaintiff presents
Which isnt likely to leave them much room if its only things that support his claim as their best shot in that case is to convince the judge the plaintiffs evidence isnt accurate.
Thats not a great position to be in

Oh here's something I found on my old flip phone, a picture of a pre alpha build of Destiny 1. You can't see anything meaningful, looks like it was a game on Control of a Venus map. The purpose was network testing. I hope I scrubbed it of anything identifiable, though I also hope they wouldn't care at this point since it was nearly 12 years ago.

alright dawg you worked at bungie, you gonna show us your cock next or what?

I wasn't going to, but your trips have me thinking about it.

Holy fuck that's awesome to see ancient stuff from Destiny 1. When you was working on Destiny 1 how was development going along? Did Jason Jones and the other senior people had a clear idea what Destiny should become, because I heard there was some creative conflicts with Destiny 1 stories.

No one who'd know any info to find you probably even works at Bungie anymore.
He got trips, you gotta do the pose

You hope bungie goes bankrupt from that court case bungie anon?
I hope they do.

How much were you aware of regarding the development of destiny before it released? Any rare cool info? Despite the dogshit state the game is in now, I'm still enamored with its history and the development phase, sounds extremely interesting.

69, 38, 76, 34

Those stats hurt me and I don't even play anymore

Makes me so glad I held on to the slow as fuck intro armor for each class because it's kino to use now.

I'm going to disappoint you by saying I wasn't involved directly in that kind of higher level decision making. From what I could tell based on my own internal snooping, development of the game on a technical level was more or less good but the creative direction got completely upended about a year before release which I think is more or less public knowledge by now. There was definitely a "clear" direction of where management wanted it to go from a business perspective, i.e. Base game -> DLC 1 -> DLC 2 -> Expansion -> DLC 3 -> DLC 4 -> Sequel -> Repeat, but that shit fell apart after I think the third DLC pack to D1 when we realized it was unsustainable and we couldn't keep up.

holy. This is going in my hecking gamingleaks subreddit!!!!

I'm just thankful they banned Linux users so I had an excuse to tell the few people I know who played this shit that I couldn't.
Linux literally saves you from this shit. Unreal.

Deserved for Gaylo

I see why you were fired bro

no one gives a shit about lander

It's fine. Still neat that we got a genuine Bungie dev lurking on Anon Babble.

Base game -> DLC 1 -> DLC 2 -> Expansion -> DLC 3 -> DLC 4 -> Sequel -> Repeat

What kind of business plan is that? 4 DLCs that sounds retarded.

lol I forgot about that fuck up

I don't know if this counts as cool info, but from what I could tell we were not ready at all to take on the management of a live service game. There was an assumption that we could deploy the game, maybe do a small patch here and there between big releases, and that was it (sort of like Halo). We got a big reality check really fast and had to spin up a dedicated customer support team and a live service team, things you'd think we would have created beforehand. We were flying by the seat of our pants.

worked for borderlands 2

why was destiny 1 so barren of content during release

A model that was meant to generate a predictable revenue stream without having a subscription. Business people love predictability. Unfortunately when we realized that didn't work we sold our souls to the free to play and microtransaction model, something I vehemently spoke out about but could never make any difference on.

A combination of the entire story being thrown out a year before release and biting off more than we could chew. It's fortunate we even had something like the Vault of Glass on release, there were some who thought it was too much and too different (not me, I thought it was cool as fuck). In retrospect I think VoG practically saved the entire franchise by showing a hint of real unique potential.

Well the problem with that is what mention. There was this view like me and other Destiny 1 players saw that the game lack content. The DLCs that came out felt they should've been in base game and that's why people assume cut content happen at that time.

There was an assumption that we could deploy the game, maybe do a small patch here and there between big releases, and that was it (sort of like Halo).

This could have worked if they didn't go full fucking retard on the crucible. A lot of people were expecting halo 3 or reach's level of MP as far as game modes and that could have carried them hard like custom games did in Halo.

I think they were too stupid to figure out how to force specific loadouts so they couldn't do fun things like shotty snipers, rockets only, swords only, dodgeball sticky nade mode, etc. They finally managed to do something like that with team scorched in like 2019 but I assume that was all they were able to muster up in the creativity department. We were never going to get anything like grifball in destiny.

I can tell you for a fact the DLCs were not cut content, at least not in the sense of completed content that we intentionally removed to sell for more money. Hell, the entire character of Eris was rushed through creation in direct response to the negative feedback of D1 lacking content, originally I don't think The Dark Below would have had Eris at all.

bungie is forced to reanimate all their dead and buried destiny content

release it all as one package

end up saving the company from certain death

KEK
Modern game companies need to get fucked like this more often.

what was the story before it got scrapped

It'd be great if this results in the shitcanning of bungie. They were never good and halo always sucked ass.

It's been so long that I really don't remember, but it probably would have been similar to Halo in tone and scope. The reason it was changed was that it was felt like your character didn't have enough agency and was instead just being treated as a grunt to do tasks for more important people. They wanted you to feel like the important one so they wanted to design a story around that and there just was not enough time to do that.

I worked at another big company and chances are, the legal team and the development team aren't talking. Usually faggot niggers in legal just talk to the managers and CEOs who in turn only talk to other managers and CEOs and don't understand dick about how the development process works. Which results in such wildly inaccurate court claims and these billion dollar companies who should have every ability in the world to be as competent as possible end up getting reamed every time.

multislop players/devs getting what they deserve

I have zero sympathy for anybody involved in this case.

Good enough for me
how was it like ruining Destiny?

I really like Halo 3 but I haven't played any other Halo games

ODST is great, you should play that.

BULLFROG

Also just to say, the original story of the game was never actually implemented. It's not like we had cut scenes and voice actors and missions already done and then decided to change all of it. The story was all still in design docs and such while the game at the time was more or less a sandbox of destinations, enemies, weapons, etc.

New DLC literally has a Grenadier unit now so yes.

maybe they shouldn't have deleted the content I paid for then, lmao

ya really surprised?

with larger spaghetti software projects its more complicated than just doing a git checkout

its more like

running the old version requires a half dozen services that no longer exist along with three different build systems we no longer use

and the guys who did it at the time no longer work here

Although to elaborate on this some more, we did have missions locations implemented, e.g. the railroaded hallways you'd go down for a story mission or even for a strike. That's one part of why the new story sucked, it needed to thread a needle through some content that was already created for a different story.

What's going on here? A lawsuit about Bungie functionally destroying the product people paid for like 10 years ago?

By the end of Destiny 1's development cycle before 2 (the best the series has ever been) that's exactly what raids were for. You could get most bis gear through every other endgame activity there was, and raids had unique armors, glamour, ships and sparrows that were really mostly only there for cosmetics and doing them was mostly just for fun and filling out your collections

I could not fucking believe that all the hype for Destinys seamless blending of player worlds amounted to zones with a few dudes running into hallways fighting 10 enemies and talking to the NPC outside like... every MMO ever. Also the F2P launch was a mess that had no clear direction for progressing and I don't care about gear score and the PvP was even floatier but unbalanced Halo with shit netcode. That was what millions of wageslave dudebros were glucking for years?

Bro raids

No I don't care about that stupid shit it really seemed like Halo but soulless and Halo was already watered down Marathon for the OG Xbox era.

Halo games were good multiplayer console games but they have been rehashing pieces of that ever since even into the Marathon alpha and it really really shows.

I dropped Destiny when they said the bs about deleting old content, what the fuck- even mobage chinkslop that gets updated monthly doesn't do this.

yes they do, mobage chinkslop go EoS after 3 years, what the fuck are you talking about

good. fuck Bungie. when I wanted to return to Destiny 2 I learned that the original game I paid for had been deleted and didn't reinstall it.

shit like this is why I feel like cod is treated unfairly by the gaming community.
people bitch and moan about their full priced annual releases that don't actually change much, but is that really all that different from a game like destiny that's """free""" and releases a full game priced expansion every year?
if anything, destiny is worse because they can choose to delete that year's worth of game you paid for at any time for any reason. at least in cod I can go back and play the older games exactly as they were no matter what.

got more sick pics

good
waste more time paying kike lawyers instead of producing shit. maybe they will think twice when releasing their next series of slop

enormous company has to scour youtube to find fan videos for their million dollar lawsuit

jesus christ what lazy retards

I've been out of the loop, they fucking deleted their old campaigns? Holy kek, hope they get what they deserve.

Yup and the crazy part is the morons who still play this game actually defend it. Imagine white knighting a company that's literally deleting content you paid for.

my eyes hurt watching this

Everything that came before Beyond Light is lost media.

That's all I got, sorry. Other than that one time I followed the rules of not taking pictures of things, especially as they added more sophisticated hidden identifiable markers.

Yeah this kind of case, where a wannabe "author" with severe schizophrenia or similar mental illness invents a nefarious conspiracy in his head that is stealing his "masterpiece" and sues over it, is surprisingly common. Real "Pepe Silvia" type situation.

honestly a smart strategy on that claimant to go after bungie in a civil case for deleting all their shit

Honestly as funny as it is to see Bungie get wrecked this shit and the "stop killing games" shit just makes sure I would NEVER make my hobby project games into a reality, or at the very least not ones ever publicly available. I am not getting sued because 40 years from now my game doesn't run on Windows 38 because 64 bit support disappeared and my game I forgot about 35 years ago stops working and someone is mad about it and wants to steal my house.

I know that feel bro, this is me after 20 years of WoW

They already have your money wtf do they care?

WoW made you black?

I suppose the issue is that the key to case is weighing the similarities to the plaintiff's works against the content that's clearly different. Using a recording by a third-party the court can't be certain that just offscreen behind the player is a character reciting a full transcript of the plaintiff's book, and the guy recording just happened to walk past that. Or that a lore essayist puffed up some parts of the story as being more substantial than they actually were int he product, while glossing over derivative parts of the story.
It seems pretty silly by common sense, but The Court would like to see the product first hand, and Bungie at this point is only able to produce things like archived store page summaries or back of the base game's case. Which likely just list off some proper nouns and generic concepts that overlap with the alleged stolen work.

They fucking should have

Why though? This logic is retarded. Every patch in a game "removes" things by virtue of changes. If I patch Elden Ring I lose builds as stats and scaling changes. I update an MMO and the world changes because one faction in the story takes over a new region. Your logic dictates that patching games risks becoming illegal, or devs are required to do some insanely retarded shit like run 5000000 different "classic" servers for every single patch, which remain 99.9999% dead with 0 players just because otherwise they get sued.

Yeah somewhere around mid Shadowlands when Sanctum of Domination released, no idea why.

You can only ninja so much loot before you turn into a ninja

Destiny did have good lore, or at least at certain points.

D1Y1 had incomplete lore, but what it did have was well written and carried that "New Age Vision Quest" vibe despite being essentially random trading card blurbs.

Taken King had 10/10 lore that turned the setting into a cohesive unique world in addition to being well written.

Rise of Iron was the first big misstep, besides the being irrelevant filler, the warlord retcons directly contradicted everything written about Guardians previously, and even now don’t really make sense with the “present day” rules. But the lore was at least written competently.

D2Y1 was the first nadir. Everyone was now a Marvel quipper, several factions and characters were rewritten into their complete opposites and the story seemed to outright disdain the players for having enjoyed D1 or taking its own story seriously. Between that and the gameplay it nearly killed the game

Forsaken was so good it saved the game. Had good lore and made it okay for things to be serious again.

Shadowkeep was pure filler.

Beyond Light is a halfway point where we see a big change in the writers room and start seeing the cracks that will rip open in Lightfall. We start seeing huge retcons from the new writers about "The Dark Side of the Force isn't evil or sentient, despite the fact for years it literally told us it was evil"

Witch Queen this new writing direction that wants to literally replace the entire world built up since D1Y1 is in full force.

Lightfall shits the bed. At this point the last of the old writers have moved on to other jobs and been replaced by new hires who have no intention of continuing the story built up over the last 9 years in favor of their own OC’s. Marvel Quipping is back. The story is as nonsensical as D1Y1’s while being as badly written as D2Y1’s. More importantly the entire fundamentals of the setting like the main villain are thrown out and we are told to our faces none of it ever happened.

I'm glad someone is finally fucking suing these pieces of shit for selling an expansion as a MAIN TITLE, deleting it and then repackaging it and calling it something NEW

he fell for the brand name

raidlets

Let's go raiding, brothers.

Still playing destiny in 2025

You indeed deserve this version of destiny that you will perpetually complain about forever until it shuts down

Keep having fun with the raids, man.

Thanks! Will do.

no longer work here

because we fired them to make room for another ideas guy and so Pete can afford another shitty american muscle car

Good for you buddy! I, however, will not be playing Destiny ever again. Glad you're having fun!

Sony bought this clown studio for 3.5bn dollars

It is indeed more complicated than just syncing from source control, but it's not impossible to do. The source code for the game client and the back end services are in the same repository along with the game content. You would very likely need to use an older version of Visual Studio and maybe a handful of other utilities to get the game and services to compile correctly, and building all the content will take literal days when done from scratch and without a build farm to distribute the load, but again it is not impossible to do. Any sufficiently competent engineer could figure out how to get this done, it wouldn't be easy or fast but it is 100% feasible.

Oh also, the game services supported the concept of being deployed on a single workstation for local development and iteration, so no need for multiple beefy servers. A local test environment could very easily be stood up if necessary.

But that is not what they are being sued for. A sci-fi author is claiming the story of the original campaign was ripping off one of his works. Bungie screwing their customers over is another matter.

Honestly the thing that sounds dumbest to me is Bungie of all fucking companies trying to pretend that a generic FPS campaign is somehow impossible to implement in the same FPS engine.

You have no idea just how more retarded Bungie is today compared to 10-15 years ago.

Bro just go to warframe. Its shit but its free.

What they are saying about adapting the older content to the newer structure of the game is actually true. The game client and its systems has significantly evolved over the years and they wouldn't be able to import the old content without a ton of effort. It wouldn't be impossible technically speaking, but it would be very, very time intensive. Would be much easier relatively speaking to do this but for some reason they claim it's not feasible.

Bungie could literally be so fucking retarded it would create a blackhole that would swallow a planet.
There isn't anything real that would prevent you from loading a map in provided you have the basic shit present
I/O objects, interactables, enemies.

OOOH BUT WE NEED THE BLABBO FRAMEWORK, AND THE DIDDLEDEE SERVER FOR YOU TO PUSH E ON THE BALBODOMPUS TO START THE BOOBADOO CUTSCENE

Fuck you nigger it's not that complicated.

Fuck "mmo" devs who make time limited content anyway.
Why the fuck are you deleting entire expansions you sold people?
Are they seriously FOMO'ing entire expansions instead of giving their game more and more content for people to play?

why would they give their opponent the evidence?

They pretty much MUST if they want to dismiss this pre trial, unless plaintif's case is super weak.

Why is Bungie even getting sued despite the complete lack of evidence?

Who knows what novel guy has as evidence? If he has pretty much anything reasonable now, this goes to an expensive as fuck trial.

Feels like they died a decade ago, and their phylactery has finally seen the sun.

really struggled with adding new content or modifying old content because most of the people that knew how to use the awful dev tools didn't even work there anymore, and they were having issues training new employees on how to use them

this seems to happen to every MS owned AAA game since they keep cycling through contractors.

Is the footage complete? Is it representative? Who's the person who took the footage and what's their relationship to the plaintif and defendants. It CAN be used in a trial, but the defense gets to challenge it, introduce youtube videos of their own. That only happens in the full trial, not pretrial.

Go see the evidence tape Data East made for Fighters History v Street fighter or whatever it is for an example.

Doesn't matter. The expectation is that the people who own the shit be able to demonstrate what the fuck they have. If they're using someone else's shit, that someone else is subject to cross examination, and that means no throwing out the case early. It's full trial time.