are you buying?
Are you buying?
when its on sale
when its on sale
goypassing to try it though I doubt my GPU is up to the task with 8GB
I still have a bit less than two weeks of PC Game pass left, so I can squeeze it in before my month is up.
What these two gay dudes said.
I'm not gay and retarded, so no
My collector's edition arrives tomorrow.
Was going to buy but now i will wait few weeks to see the gamer opinion.
Reviews are lower than i expected so im skeptical
mork is going to review it and shit all over this parry fest
Ill watch his review and have a good laugh then go back to Quake
renting it on gamepass, beating it once and never playing it again
just like 2016
just like eternal
No
1660 ti no ray tracing
It hurts so much bros
Best I can do is $12
buying
its on gamepass.
RED LIGHT
RED LIGHT
GREEN LIGHT PARRY TO KILL MONSTER
that and the comically slow bullets being fired by the mancubi unironically killed my interest
it just looks so stupid
When it’s $20 or less.
probably not. i don't really go for games with male protagonists. i was optimistic about Metal Eden till i played the demo and realized it's ass. was really hoping that would be a Doomgirl game.
they can be sped up significantly
Yes. Day 1 purchase. And Anon Babble will seethe.
Day 1 install on gamepass
previously on ZOOM RING: THE EBONIC AGES
doomfolk! You can't beat me! So... I rebelled against Heaven!
*doomguy breathing heavily*
doomie, can you hear me? To your left.
*a portal opens*
*Volodimir Zelensky, Isabelle and Dave Rivera join the battle*
*another portal opens*
K-Kojima-san?!! And…Suzi?!
*SphereHunter performs a bayonetta-like flip while wearing his Eve cosplay from Stellar Blade and lands epically in front of doomguy*
*Another portal features Anthony Fauci, Keanu Reeves and Better Man*.
We must be better...
*from a portal in the sky appears Doomguy's dragon who was thought to be dead and in comes Rick Sanchez*
Who is a good boy? You you are a good boy! Wubba lubba dub!
*Minecraft's Jack Black and Jason Momoa fall from the sky doing a waterdrop*
I... AM KYIIIIIIV
*Satan watches in bewilderment*
You can't beat me!
I'm surprised that a fella like you is hurting people, come to your senses, you're behaving like Grummz! -says dave rivera
You can be better than this...- says better man
*Satan orders his army to attack*.
*Captain Zelensky moves into attack position*.
I've dealt with tyrants like you and Putler before!
*Doomguys looks seriously*
DOOMVENGERS!
ASSEMBLE...
*Avengers endgame battle theme metal cover by ROYAL BLOOD*
*Everyone races in an offensive that will decide whether good or evil will win*
*Dave rivera orders his followers in Xitter to overload hell's defense systems*
*Isabelle violently attacks the infernal forces*
I may be wholesome but I'm also tough!
*Anthony Fauci throws syringes like kunais*
Try this, chuds!
*Kojima attacks a giant demon using his epic mecha*
Just like evangeliom! -says keanu reeves
*doomguy and satan jump in front of each other ready to finish this epic battle*
blessed
Not at that price
i didn't liked eternal, if it was like 2016 Doom, then i would buy it.
also the reddit page of doom was occupied by some faggot and kept the faggot colors for YEARS, he banned anyone that complained, no one did jackshit about it after that, the faggot died from aids, i think, and now is back to normal.
Doom is dead to me.
I don't generally buy games on release anymore. I will wait a few months when it will be 50% off in a sale or whatever.
No
Based
Nope
Because I got it free with my 5070ti purchase
This damn sure isn't gonna be the game that gets be to buy a memetracing GPU, so no.
fuck no
getting game pass and playing it yes, and then playing E33 and other goyslop games while i got the pass
Lowering the texture pool to 1.5GB supposedly helps and doesn't really degrade graphic fidelity
It's free on gamepass
still got a gtx 1080 so never.
This game couldn't possibly sound any worse:
-origins story
-medieval setting
-"epic cinematic story of the DOOM Slayer's rage" (it literally says this on the steam page lol)
-focus on melee combat
-dodging and parrying soulslike nonsense
-framerate issues on ps5
-cutscenes interrupting gameplay
-enormous maps where you run around in silence for 45 mins accomplishing small tasks in order to unlock your main task
-heckin dragons (YAAAAAAS JUST LIKE GAME OF THRONES!!!!)
Fuck right off. This sounds like they let a committee of accountants and market analysts design it.
it's free on this service that you have to pay a monthly fee to access, and then the service takes it away from you when they feel like it.
day 1 my nigga
enormous maps where you run around
we've gone from locked arenas to pseudo open world where you can just run past enemies
Didn't like Eternal so no.
Filtered.
Beat UV and NM.
I'm borrowing at my local library
erm but did you beat it with one hand tied behind your back and the mod that adds 50 marauders to every encounter?
lemme tell you, the first thing I thought of after beatin Speed of Doom, Ancient Aliens, Okuplok, and UACLABS.wad was I'm going to stand my ground and buy it.
I was expecting someone to bring up UNM, but I think it'd be mental illness to do the required practice and run UNM when you fundamentally dislike the game.
got the premium edition for free so already preloaded
it says recommended requirements are 32gb ram so maybe by the time I feel like upgrading it will be on sale
ultra nightmare isn't impressive, it's literally just nightmare that wastes your time if you take a cheap death, at least it's not as bad as 2016 where the physics could break and fling you into a death pit, fall through platforms and get killed with stuck in animations
I already bought it. I play just about any FPS that comes out.
I dunno if I could do it myself personally, but I've seen Decino and plenty of normie streamers pull it off, so idk.
MFW Doom The Dark Ages and Death End Request Code Z comes out the same day(May 13)
MFW again I already got my PS5 Limited Edition copy of Death End Request Code Z in the mail this past Friday on the 9th.
Also MFW again getting Doom the Dark Ages this week
Fuck this is going to be a very fun week.
When its on sale
$30 sounds right to me. I have too many other things to enjoy to fork over the price they are asking lmao.
It's not that hard past the first few levels. If you've already beaten Nightmare then you're probably good enough at the game and know when to run away when shit hits the fan because of how easy is to die and how easy it is to run away. The only real check is knowing some annoying spawns.
Can't think of a reason not to.
I got the goy pass so I'll play it through that.
PS5
lol
fuck no after Eternal
how do I get good at doom 2016
No
If they ever do Quake, I really hope their focus is just on level design and exploration.
The NuDoom combat just isn't my thing personally, however the worlds and maps are visually gorgeous, and it'd work so well in a Quake title.
how is it possible to be bad at it?
Hopefully some other team at id handles it, or they make a new team at id for it if there isn't one. Regardless of anyone's thoughts on the Doom reboot, a Quake game by the same team is just going to feel too similar no matter how much they try to shake it up.
i'll give you $10 for it
Doom Eternal's gameplay was like assembling a piece of Ikea furniture. Fine if you like following a step-by-step process to reach the same conclusion every single time. But it sure as fuck isn't interesting
who asked?
I didn't buy the last one.
Fine if you like following a step-by-step process to reach the same conclusion every single time
You can say that to boil down a majority of all games ever.
Hahaha nice
muh reductionism
eternal is more overt about it and it makes the gameplay less dynamic
You're trying so hard, and failing just as hard.
muh reductionism
Yes, especially when you're not describing anything that happens in the game itself and are using a metaphor.
I'm borrowing at our local library
Not even for free waste of space on my ssd
Not saying it's bad (I don't like it myself), but Doom Eternal is pretty overt and does strongarm you into playing efficiently, mostly on UV and NM (under the assumption these are the 'real' difficulties for the game.)
Even if there's more 'optimal approaches', the tutorials literally tell you outright that enemies are weaker to certain weapons, and others necessitate specific strategies (hence rock-paper-scissors.) I don't know why you people try to dispute this when Hugo Martin himself has talked about it at length (the fun zone, chess allegories, the 'thinking man's shooter' etc.)
Wrong reply, but still.
WHO?
I chose to get a switch 2 instead so I’ll get this on sale later
the tutorials literally tell you outright that enemies are weaker to certain weapons, and others necessitate specific strategies
Ok and? There are instances of breaking the mold being just as or more efficient despite the game not saying such.
I'm playing through Doom 2016 right now to see if I like Doom at all. Only about an hour in and it's pretty tight. If I can beat this and Doom Eternal by the time Dark Ages is released then I might get it.
it sounds better than anything that mick "electro fart" gordon ever made for nudoom.
Ok and?
That the game is overt in enforcing efficiency, via the tutorials and its actual design.
The "forces you to play a certain way" meme.
That for some reason fanboys deny or try to dispute, it's why a lot of people don't like Eternal (including myself.)
Borderlands 3
oh... no
their shit is pretty generic but ok. I dont think this game will have memorable songs
it's okay but it's not iconic
I don't even like the games
That the game is overt in enforcing efficiency, via the tutorials
No it's not. There is more flexibility as you unlock more of the weapon pool. This only happens if you follow Rule A too intensely to the point you don't even realize it's an absolute rule.
and its actual design.
Many games can be boiled down to achieving efficiency.
it's why a lot of people don't like Eternal
And a lot of people like it. The reception is hardly anything of value here.
it's an absolute rule.
It's not an*
The rail level and hell level back to back is utter kino, enjoy it.
No it's not
You die (a lot) if you don't play the game optimally on higher difficulties.
Many games can be boiled down to achieving efficiency.
Not all games are equally as punishing towards inefficient play, nor give the same kind of negative feedback (a slow clear time, a poor ranking, etc.)
The reception is hardly anything of value here.
A lot of people take personal offense to others expressing their dislike of the game, so I wouldn't say it's of no value, those people care a lot.
Let's not pretend that you weed gamers didn't just use Super Shotgun the entire time in 2016 or in Doom 2 for that matter. Shut the fuck up.
2016 is the best because it didnt force dumb gimmicks on the player. eternal is way too busy with 5 different cool downs and abilities to spam. dork ages turned a fps into parry slop. i dont think dork ages will be bad but so far its shaping up to be the worst of the trilogy,
You die (a lot) if you don't play the game optimally on higher difficulties.
That's a skill issue. I can play it casually up to Mars Core Ultra Nightmare Master Level.
Not all games are equally as punishing towards inefficient play
Then lower the difficulty.
A lot of people take personal offense to others expressing their dislike of the game, so I wouldn't say it's of no value, those people care a lot.
Yes, but I don't know each and every specific point they have to make. I'm concerned about your opinions, and bringing up others feels more like a mask to hide behind if anything.
People should appreciate that Doom 2016 and Eternal are different games that try different things, and that Doom: The Dark Ages is doing something different as well.
In this shithole of a modern industry, it is nice that a dev is trying new things with each entry instead of doing the same thing again and again... and again and again (I know most gamers have shit taste and prefer the same things x100 rather than new experiences)
Eternal fans need to act less elitist, and 2016 fans need to stop acting like they were stabbed in the back by Brutus for Eternal requiring some thought to play.
Chunky medieval shooter with a shield is cool and no one will convince me otherwise but I don't get FOMO I will wait until its on sale for £10
2016 is the best because it didnt force dumb gimmicks on the player
yeah the game that introduced glory kills and chainsawing for magic ammo was a real tribute to the gold standard of fps design...
If this was heretic or hexen okay, but it ain't doom.
That's a skill issue.
Duh, the point is that kind of design (>muh forced to use certain gun meme) isn't for everyone.
Then lower the difficulty.
I agree to an extent, but the framing for NuDoom is that the 'real' experience of playing the games is UV minimum and NM ideally.
Yes, but I don't know each and every specific point they have to make. I'm concerned about your opinions, and bringing up others feels more like a mask to hide behind if anything.
No clue what you're getting at here, but Mayo and his orbiters are a good example of how absolutely fanatical Eternal fans can be.
glory kills were nothing when 2016 came out new but it popularized them. also 2016 gave you enough ammo in the maps that you never needed to chainsaw for ammo, it didn't become a necessity until eternal. your max ammo cap was much higher in 2016.
I boughted
based "2 cakes" frogposter
When it comes to Switch 2, yes.
After finally feeling like enough time has passed since I played Doom 1, I am playing Doom 2 and enjoying it. I am surprised that people feel that Doom 2 is such a big step down. Doom 1 gets worse after E1 anyway. Additionally, I didn't mind the maze like design of D64 when I played it, although I feel like I would be less tolerant of it if I played it today.
Thats retarded
its a good game just not a good DOOM game
yeah but its still a good game though in that argument
(>muh forced to use certain gun meme)
That's not true though.
but the framing for NuDoom is that the 'real' experience of playing the games is UV minimum and NM ideally.
And you're clearly not there yet. Enjoy the experience you had (or not) but don't think it's universal.
, but Mayo and his orbiters are a good example of how absolutely fanatical Eternal fans can be.
I don't care about them. This is irrelevant to the game itself.
I agree with the frog poster
Borderlands 3
Lmaooo
nah doom is doom but they keep reinventing it to be more and more undoom like
heretic lends it's themes more to what dark ages is doing
if I had the time, money, or system specs
sure, it looks fun
That's not true though.
It's a meme but has some half-truth to it, more specifically that you do have to optimal in your gameplay at higher difficulties, and that the game (compared to other titles) is much more punishing of suboptimal play, hence 'strongarming' you.
And you're clearly not there yet. Enjoy the experience you had (or not) but don't think it's universal.
I cleared UV and NM, why would disliking the game's inherent design be mutually exclusive with being able to complete it? There's still much harder games out there.
I don't care about them. This is irrelevant to the game itself.
I don't like e-celebs, but it's pretty disingenuous to say Mayo is irrelevant here, he's heavily shaped the surrounding discourse on Eternal's design and a huge majority of Eternal fans consoom his content.
I would agree with this if it wasn't so in your face about parrying or how some enemies NEED to be parried. Also the mech/dragon levels sound like genuine shit. No doubt the actual gameplay is gonna be sick.
Still retarded, doesn't matter what its called if its a good game anyway.
its called DOOm and its not doomlike -not buying it
same game but its called medieval shooty bastard - yeah its great I'm buying
more specifically that you do have to optimal in your gameplay at higher difficulties
That would be true for anything unless the game is broke. This is not a unique quality to Eternal.
and that the game (compared to other titles) is much more punishing of suboptimal play
This can also be true for other games for other series. This is not a unique quality to Eternal.
why would disliking the game's inherent design be mutually exclusive with being able to complete it
I'm not saying this, I've played games and beat games I've not really enjoyed. I'm saying being strong-armed is an issue of skill and is not universal.
he's heavily shaped the surrounding discourse on Eternal's design and a huge majority of Eternal fans consoom his content.
And I don't know any of that until now. It apparently has more of an effect on you than me.
That would be true for anything unless the game is broke. This is not a unique quality to Eternal.
I literally just posted before that not all games are equally as punishing of suboptimal play, and that they may offer different forms of negative feedback, such as a poor ranking, or poor completion time, I didn't say this quality was exclusive to Eternal either, MMOs have a similar kind of design.
This can also be true for other games for other series. This is not a unique quality to Eternal.
Why would you mention this? It's like saying water is wet. There's games like Eternal out there? Woah dude.
I'm saying being strong-armed is an issue of skill and is not universal.
So you can just 'willpower' through the game's inherent design or what? To be 'skillful' in Eternal is to let yourself be strongarmed by it, specifically to give in and embrace its desire to force you into the 'fun zone' or optimal play (thinking man's shooter) that Hugo Martin talks about.
And I don't know any of that until now. It apparently has more of an effect on you than me.
???
not all games are equally as punishing of suboptimal play
And Eternal is not that unless it's Ultra Nightmare.
Why would you mention this?
Because Eternal being harder than other games in the series it belongs to is irrelevant to Eternal's own mechanics.
So you can just 'willpower' through the game
Yes, because it's design is not as strong-arming as people think it is.
???
You keep bringing the opinions of others to this conversation when I am not influenced by these people at all. I keep saying they are irrelevant and yet you keep bringing them up as if their existence is a quality to Doom Eternal's mechanics.
shut the fuck up guys, are you buying dark ages or what
Any regional price bro in here? doom seems to be twice as expensive as clair obscur
I want to... but i won't
are you buying dark ages
lmao i dont even have a card with raytracing
Man that is a kickass skin, but I really should wait until real reviews come in, this game seems a bit iffy
I enjoyed 2016 and eternal a lot so yeah I'm gonna play dark ages
Ill play it on gamepass
And Eternal is not that unless it's Ultra Nightmare.
Eternal is that around UV, and precisely in NM, are you under the assumption that these are not the 'real' Doom Eternal? The fanbase is pretty clear with its framing (and likely Hugo himself) that UV and NM are the intended difficulties for the game.
Yes, because it's design is not as strong-arming as people think it is.
In what regard? Because there's a run of some guy doing CSG only on UNM after what was probably hundreds or thousands of repeated attempts and deaths?
blocking
parrying
zippy zoom zooming
I play DOOM to play a FPS, sorry
At 80EUR? Fuck no. Maybe off of a keysite if the game looks utterly amazing (since you can't refund on those). I haven't really looked into it yet, I'll check out some real gameplay once it's out for everyone.
They really dropped the ball with skins in this game. There's only like 4 of them, 2 aren't included with the game by default, and all of them are just simple palette swaps.
its first person how will you see the skin?
Only on sale, since I have a passing interest in the LC mythos stuff.
Do you not play any other types of games? Or its just the name and it not being what you think a doom game should be? What if it was called "Medieval Shield and Gun Cunt" instead?
and precisely in NM
No it's not. My skill level allows me to fuck around in Eternal.
The fanbase is pretty clear with its framing
I don't care about their opinions.
In what regard?
Because I casually beat it on Nightmare for my first playthrough. Then I plotted a route for Ultra Nightmare and then beat that. At most it was time consuming, but not hard.
At least until Mars Core Master Level on Ultra Nightmare.
I seem to remember there was interest ina medieval knight game with guns a while back, what happened to that?
100%. Dont know if day one though.
Maybe if I ever get around to playing Doom and Eternal.
.....
that's actually a good point
This is a prequel so you should play this one first
I play sims, strategy, rpgs. I play shooters to play a shooter and have mindless fun
maybe when it's like $20
swings from monkey bar
Gets me every time
Nah, they removed doublejumping, quickswitching, meathook boosting, aerial combat, and bunch of other stuff that made Eternal so good.
Even if that's true, prequels are generally made under the assumption you know what happens in the games that were made prior. But then idk how much fuckin lore there actually is here aside from unga bunga fuck you soldier shreds his way through hell or whatever.
lmao
No it's not. My skill level allows me to fuck around in Eternal.
I'm sure that's the case.
I don't care about their opinions.
You should given they probably share the same stance as the game's lead designer lol.
Because I casually beat it
"Casual" being quickswapping (SSG, Ballista etc) and generally efficient play or dying repeatedly (doubtful), yes. If you didn't die, then you were likely playing effectively even if not to the fullest extent, if you are 'skilled' in Eternal, that means you are playing optimally, this isn't a hard concept to grasp, you can't say that you didn't play optimally and didn't eat shit.
Yeah, they removed doublejumping, quickswitching, meathook boosting, aerial combat, and bunch of other stuff that made Eternal so shit.
That's where you're wrong there's way too much lore in this series it's kinda stupid, especially when they start going all cinematic in Eternal
I kneel
I'm sure that's the case.
yes.
You should given they probably share the same stance as the game's lead designer lol
So he doesn't understand what he actually made then.
that means you are playing optimally
Yes, but optimal play isn't a unique trait to Eternal.
Either way, I will emphasize that optimal play does not equal following the rules.
someone post the webm
don't feel like paying gamepass right now just to play it on xbox, would feel like shit frankly, and even pushing that aside my computer is too old to handle it. the mandatory RT dropped performance too hard for an RTX 2080 Super and an i7-6700 plus no SSD to handle reasonably
Yes, but optimal play isn't a unique trait to Eternal.
At no point did I say that it was.
I will emphasize that optimal play does not equal following the rules.
The highest optimal play in Eternal is still exploitation of enemy weakpoints and quickswapping, so I would say this isn't entirely the case (if at all), even the highest-level Eternal gameplay is the exact kind of thing that Martin goons over.
Am I out of the loop?
Every footage I've seen looks slow and boring so no.
The highest optimal play in Eternal is still exploitation of enemy weakpoints
It's not. You can kill enemies so quickly that exploiting weakpoints can be done for flair before it actually gives the player an advantage.
quickswapping
Which you don't have to do for Nightmare. The game doesn't even immediately tell the player until most of the arsenal is procured, and even on my first run I ignored it.
I would but I have to wait for the big green discount symbol so I can parry the pricetag.
im still playing oblivion and now i definitely want to play skyrim again afterwards
It's not
I am watching the UNM WR speedrun right now, and the player is doing exactly that with the Heavy Cannon PB.
Which you don't have to do for Nightmare.
If you want to die and eat shit, not quickswapping is unoptimal play, unoptimal play will very likely get you killed, you can faceroll through the game without doing it, but you will die a lot, and have a very miserable time, this is the crux of my arguments, and those made by other people.
fuck you Marty, pay Mick
Borderlands 3 isn't a game you should be name dropping in your PR copywriting.
everyone should be excited we're getting another corporate fan-fiction sequel to a once beloved game that completely misses the point.
Nah.
I am watching the UNM WR speedrun
You are using the most extreme of outliers whereas before you based everything on Ultra Violence and Nightmare, specifically your experiences and how you felt throttled. Using others has been the core of your position whereas mine is defying the mold set upon by others. My point has been that rule following and optimization is not necessary for Nightmare, and that UN is when suboptimal play isn't allowed. I even said that about UN too.
If you want to die and eat shit, not quickswapping is unoptimal play, unoptimal play will very likely get you killed, you can faceroll through the game without doing it, but you will die a lot, and have a very miserable time
Didn't happen to me.
this is the crux of my arguments, and those made by other people.
Again I don't care about the majority opinion.
For 5 minutes.
This is closer to Painkiller than it is to DOOM methinks.
Already boughtered it. id is one of the few developers I trust to deliver a good product even if the Simon Says Parryshit is a little much and detracts from the actual FPS part of the game. Cutscenes will be skipped if possible though. Fuck that gay Marvel shit. Just stop it, Hugo.
Cutscenes will be skipped if possible though.
You are using the most extreme of outliers
To demonstrate that exploiting enemy weaknesses and quickswapping remain at the core of optimal play, even at the highest level gameplay possible, something you tried to deny.
My point has been that rule following and optimization is not necessary for Nightmare.
Do you not grasp that death is a 'failure state', and that the player should try to avoid it? Are you going to make the argument that none of the game's mechanics matter because you can just play unoptimally, die and then try over and over again? Do you think the player should not care and not try to avoid that failure state? Why even bother playing the game in the first place?
Didn't happen to me.
If you did not die in the game, dumbass, you were playing optimally, you are acting in extreme bad faith, which is typical for Eternal dicksuckers.
Again I don't care about the majority opinion.
Then why the fuck are you replying in the first place and continuing this thread? You clearly care what I think.
Holy BASED
waiting for the under the mayo megareview
It sounds must closer to classic doom composition than 2016/eternal. Its actual metal and not weird glitch electric fart noises that Mick Gordon is known for. It even sounds pretty similar to Hulshult's doom music which is infinity better than Mick Gordon.
To demonstrate that exploiting enemy weaknesses and quickswapping remain at the core of optimal play
I said these things within the context of Nightmare, not Ultra Nightmare.
I've died on Nightmare I won't deny that. But rule following and optimal play itself are things that hardly need to be followed.
Do you not grasp that death is a 'failure state', and that the player should try to avoid it?
I absolutely get that. It's just death, and yes it sucks if it does happen, but people entering the death state varies widely between person to person. For me I did not run into that issue much.
If you did not die in the game, dumbass, you were playing optimally
I played optimally regardless of the rules. Are you attempting to gaslight my own experiences now?
Then why the fuck are you replying in the first place and continuing this thread?
Because I want to talk to you? It intrigues me that you keep bringing up others.
Its actual metal and not weird glitch electric fart noises that Mick Gordon is known for
I think they didn't want him to feature any guitars, origiinally.
Anon Babbleiggers pretend they are le hardcore gaymers that make fun of "AAA slop"
they also pretend doom eternal "is not hard"
yet they can't replicate clearing unm which is something even normies on controller can pull off
now they cope it's "zoom game" after realizing their hardcore fps creds didn't pass
umm.... Anon Babbleiggies...? what's this...?
how
they didnt but doom music has never been better since they kicked him out and dropped all the gay glitch techno garbage.
doom games should be nowhere over 30 gig in size
i hate these new games being over 100 gig
Absolutely. If the original DOOMs can offer hours of gameplay and modding potential in mere megabytes, there’s no excuse for bloated 100GB installs unless it’s just lazy asset compression and 4K cutscenes no one watches. Give me tight code, modular design, and options to skip downloading crap I won’t use.
It sounds must closer to classic doom composition than 2016/eternal
??
It's generic guitar metal in the background with no melody or theme to it whatsoever, it's just rocking out with some light choir backing. Classic Doom would actually have primary melodic tunes in its songs. None of the new reboot games have sounded like Classic Doom whatsoever besides the occasional moments of using old motifs snuck in there, and even an originally planned version of Into Sandy's City got rejected from Eternal for being 'too video game-y' even under Mick's work.
youtube.com
1tb gen3 nvme is like 50 bucks, this complaint is obsolete.
I bought 2016 and Eternal (+DLC) on sale years later.
I am interested in playing it but it's not a day 1 buy for me, some of the mechanics (like the green parry) look questionable. And of course it's gonna have DLC like Eternal. I can wait.
The new OST reminds me of the old kingdom under fire osts. they sound like really dirty grinds perfect for mindless murder.
I don't really get this complaint. PC storage has also gotten larger and cheaper, and internet speeds are also a lot better on average. People act like it's only games getting bigger and like nothing else has been advancing to accommodate such a thing, which is just wrong.
all the gay glitch techno garbage
I feel like it's just more shallow now. I don't think that Mick would've had problems making music without adding seventy layers of corrupted synth noises or whatever the fuck it was. If anything the process would've been even easier. Hulshult's stuff just sounded basic in comparison and I can't find of a single notable track from TAG1/2.
Dark Ages is literally for people who didn't like Eternal.
I don't think they did a good job of that because now I dislike both.
but what about people that didnt like eternal but don't like parry slop gameplay?
It's interesting to see Doom (New) go this direction with its system requirements after people have spent so much time praising Doom and Doom Eternal for basically being poster boys for god tier modern optimization.
why the fuck is this 80 usd?
the fucked up part is that for IdTech standards versus some other things out there implementing passive RT, this is still more optimized. RT is that much of a fucking hit.
Ray tracing has been the biggest fucking mistake in terms of reaching graphical improvement. The ceiling was so fucking high before RT and now everyone needs to change hardware to accommodate it now because it is MANDATORY now
This is why I still think it's too early to be trying to implement passive RT in everything. The hardware that can even utilize it can hardly utilize it well enough to actually perform well. I don't really care if RT is a setting in games, but man, it should not be default.
I loved Doom 2016 and I fucking hated Doom: Eternal. Anyone else?
it sounds better
only because you are a fucking retarded zoomer that doesn't understand metal mixing or the genre in general
boxy sounding rhythm guitars with no body or layering
painfully obvious "metal preset snare" sample that sounds like from a nickleback demo
meanwhile a random 5k subscriber on youtube can perfectly copy the elements + layering style of mick gordon youtube.com
As someone who has played neither, I see this opinion a lot honestly, and I'm interested in knowing why. On the surface, to me, they look like they should be similar enough to both be enjoyed if you liked one or the other, and yet this opinion is surprisingly common.
they'll never actually remix the good non E1M1 tracks worth a damn
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random glitch and fart noises
wooooah so heckin masterfully layered! truly the next evolution to metal music where you get random shit noises that break the flow of the beat because its so cyber and unique!
actual metal
generic metal you could hear from a random indie with 10 subscribers on soundcloud.
links an example that sounds nothing like the first thing he linked
you understand nothing about this topic, just move on
posts a link showcasing the apes trying to copy gordon's analog synth based sound with the exact same layering being employed under the main rhythm melody but in such an amateuristic way where the whole mix falls apart from how inbalanced the elements are
yep, you're a fucking retard who should keep their mouth shut, holy fucking shit kill yourself
you can't even differentiate between the two styles you posted since you also posted hulshult which apes on gordon's analog signalchain tropes in the exact same way gordon does, and the mickey mouse shit you posted tries, but fails in a hilarious way. again, you need to kill yourself since you have nothing to add to this convo.
mick lost and get fired and id intentionally went out of their way to change future doom music with no more techno farts. keep staying mad music snob while nobody elves gives a shit and will praise the dark ages ost.
None of this shit is even actual honest to god proper metal music. An electric guitar playing hard tones =/= metal automatically! Honestly I can't even call the original Doom midis a full metal either for how often they went weird, ambient or plain rock, but I can't call anything Dark Ages offers to be genuinely Doom-like. It's all tryhard shit that wants to make it more "epic" than it really is, and I wouldn't even hate most of it if it wasn't being billed by retarded fanboys as some magic return to form and "how it always sounded".
You will get different answers if the person is an Eternal or 2016 fan, each equally self-serving. Keep that in mind when you get your answer.
I'm gonna play it on game pass till I get bored
gets BTFO
starts moving goalpost
lol, get fucked on dumb nigger. you lost.
nobody elves gives a shit and will praise the dark ages ost.
even mainstream outlets are saying the soundtrack is repetitive, and everyone is calling out the generic soundtrack, from fans to critics
ign.com
people are even asking for hulshult back, who is just inferior mick gordon.
I saw some reviews calling the new music to be too "conventional". The small snippets they've showed so far sound incredibly generic.
i hope you didnt leave the thread dumb nigger, these are going to keep coming
I honestly don't know either. I think it's got to do with the world design.
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Always based. I will never buy Nudoom crap.
2016 was a very straight-forward shooter where you could just use your favorite weapon without much thought and just steamroll the entire game. Doom Eternal demanded much more from the player and is a much higher APM game where you need to be using your grenades and utility to refill your armor/hp and ammo while also quickswitching through your arsenal. It's pretty autistic and divisive, but once you get it down, it's way more satisfying. The Dark Ages seeks to slow the game back down and do away with a lot of the autism from Eternal without completely going away from that formula.
Gonna miss this nigga. That strong pulsing sound during the foundry levels was oddly fitting. This whole ordeal also fucked his chances of scoring Wolfenstein 3 too, right?
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Not boughting it
pirate once they remove denucép
frog poster
dogshit post reeking of newfaggotry
EVERY SINGLE TIME
skinny arms while being a guitar player
What a fucking bitch. No wonder his songs are fucking shit.
I think that every nudoom song is garbage btw
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you do realize all your cherry picked images are people sucking mick gordons dick right? there are people that did not like his style of music. a lot of diehard mick fans are zoomers that never listened to metal in their life as well so it's not really hard to single out the tryhard music snobs.
i dont buy single player games, i watch them on youtube
the only good post ITT, extremely zased
mick's music fit the games. that's all that really needs to be said. it doesn't have to conform to a genre, a specific style, an archetype. who gives a fuck if it's metal, djent or noise
no.
keeps using the word "snob" to excuse him from criticism to pretend he is not below other people who have more authority on the subject than him
you twice linked something that is aping mick gordon's style without realizing it's aping on mick gordon's style, you're just too braindead to realize
I only wanna buy on pc of course, kill all controller players. But I will have to wait until they bake their lighting, as I am intelligent and haven't upgraded past the 1080ti. Will probably get it on sale too, at that point.
mick did not invent metal you dumb gaylord.
you thought all this time the argument is about mick gordon inventing metal? and you think you have any chance at arguing your retarded point vs me?
no wonder you stayed for 30mins just to get raped, you might have actual brain damage
How did they fuck up so bad with mick gordon?
retarded zoomer nigger that thought he understands metal is surprised he is alone in thinking some borderlands composers did a better job than mick gordon
I'm really going to miss the glory kills. I don't care if it interrupted gameplay it was awesome