Kingdom Hearts

Sora has come a long way, which design is the best?

Hands down its KH1 for me, they really nailed that perfect balance between Square and Disney in his KH1 design.

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I want to say KH1 but the actual model is awful, he looks much better in drawings, Smash and what little we see of him in KH3
So i'll go with 2 Wisdom Form

KH1, but to be fair KH2 is the perfect model for the more fast-paced combat (not sure if KH1 Sora would work well)

hair gets shorter and affected by gravity more and more as he ages

jrpg pattern baldness

Riku's hair gets less affected by gravity

He got a bright future that lad

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1 and 2 compliment eachother perfectly, 3 is heavy downgrade and 4 is obviously a 1 time gimmick

Why does nu-Sora look like that ugly chick from the Last of US?

2 is still the best

He got worse in every aspect.
-his IQ dropped by like 20 points every game
-he became more cringe every game
-he forgot how to socialize like a human after the first game.
-he became more of a bitch
-in terms of combat KH3 sora is actually weaker and less versatile than KH2
-his animations got worse
-his design and personality got worse every game.

Sora's face gets fatter the older he gets

-in terms of combat KH3 sora is actually weaker and less versatile than KH2

Retard
Also he did canonically got his mind fucked with twice

it's true.
-Summons in KH3 are not even full partners. they were downgraded to limit only.
-Limits in KH3 were downgraded to cut-scenes
-KH2 sora can go into 5 forms when he wants, KH2 has to wait fro a gatcha game popup and can only have 3. they're weaker, last for barely any time and all the forms function basically the same.
-KH3 sora can't use reaction commands, can't steal enemies weapons or perform amazing feats because he's too retarded and weak.
-KH2 has a sense of power growth you can feel as the game goes, KH3 sora has none and nothing he does is as impressive and stylish as KH2 sora
-KH3 sora cries like a bitch and gets knocked out from xion falling on him.

Sora has a form for every keyblade

but can only carry 3 so that doesn't matter.
and most of the forms play the same. they don't really change the gameplay.

Dude the canonical answer is ALWAYS 1(Id personally say 1-2 are equal) cause for 1 thing Nomura has stated in interviews that the first design he landed on was where he struck gold.
Second look at the fucking Smash renders bro that shit BLACKPILLED me on how fucked Sora got. For 2 you lose a little edge but he still largely looks cool but seeing the side by side with the 3D model Sora looks like fucking ASS man. Hes got that weird orange tint on his skin, the spikes are all droopy and gross. Despite any major time passing they decreased his eye size and lifted up the eyeline which looks fucking WRONG. The color pallete is fucked and looks muted and shit(and dont give me shit about how Im comparing it to a CG model they tried to make a better model for the Yozora fight and it looks fucking WORSE). Like fuck man seeing those Smash renders made me wish fucking ANYONE ELSE was given the directors chair
And 4 is not even in my calculations, thats just fucking Noctis AGAIN

Went a little too realistic Asian-boy instead of that anime "wait they're not white?" aesthetics.

KH3 Sora has shotlocks, but imo it's not worth the loss of him taking Saix's own weapon and beating him with it.

truth nuke

he looks off in smash you autist

2 > 1 >>> everything else >>>>> 4

KH1 has the best everything
(yes even the combat)

Final fantasy style is literally based on my exact fucking face and Idk how to feel about it. Do I look uncanny or am I ideal beauty? I literally have the same exact face.

I'm sorry to say this anon, but you were just another Nomuraslop character all along

Pot calling the kettle nigger in a KH thread
Dumbass

God I wish I were real

How old is Sora supposed to be in the new game?

Personally, I think KH2 Limit Form is still the best design. You get the better structure of the KH2 clothes with the better color scheme of KH1. KH3 has too much UE4 stank and I can't really pass judgement on KH4 Sora yet since we've only seen him in Quadratum, which allegedly has a realistic shader.
17-18. He's 14 in KH1, 15 in KH2, going on 16 in KH3, and at least a year has passed between KH3 and KH4 judging by the DLC. He looks a lot closer to 18 in the anniversary drawing (picrel) than the model, though (the new screenshot gets closer, at least)

I like that Sora grew up with us but I wish that he was a little older currently.

I think he'll at least act a little older in 4, honestly. Nomura talked in interviews how he wants to focus more on slow moments where the characters get a chance to develop, which is something this series has honestly really, really lacked.

2 > 3 > 1 > 4

3 is still the worst because of how fucking gross the hands look.

I’m looking forward to it. I hope that we’ll get a new trailer by the end of the year.

2 is the best, 1 is decent, 3 sucks

3 is a heavy dowgrade but at least it keeps some consistency. Im thinking Soras Kh4 Design is a "keep the world order" situation where he will only look like that in this world.

Im thinking Soras Kh4 Design is a "keep the world order" situation where he will only look like that in this world.

To some extent, probably.
khinsider.com/news/Nomura-discusses-Kingdom-Hearts-4-Missing-Link-and-Dark-Road-in-extended-Famitsu-interview-19073

Q: One year has passed since KHIII, so Sora's character design in KHIV is slightly more mature. His hair is silky and realistic, and even the impression he gives off has changed.

Nomura: Even when we were working on KHIII, there were discussions within the team about how realistic we should make the characters. We certainly could have made the hair silky smooth in KHIII if we wanted to. This time, since we are starting anew with the Lost Master Arc, we decided to make some drastic changes. The [characters'] appearances also match the nature of the world [they're in].

Q: I hope we will meet Sora again, looking as he did in KHIII. Has this new costume design been finalized?

Nomura: No, not yet. There may still be some finer changes, such as with the details. As for the silhouette, I think it'll be similar to the one in this trailer.

I think he's like 50.
he just got Korean plastic surgery.

2 Limit Form > 1 > 2 > Dream Drop Distance > 4 > 3 Second Form > 3
BONUS: SMASH RENDERS
KH1 > KH2 > Wisdom Form (DDD) [Personal Favorite] > DDD > Timeless River > Valor Form (KH2) > KH3 > Ultimate Form (KH3)

KH1 Sora has the most personality. Namine truly lobotomized him and did a hack job when putting his mind back together again.

I'll be blunt I hate Sora being retconned into a shitty Asian. He never looked Asian. I haven't felt this angry since Tidus from Final Fantasy 10 was revealed to be an ugly ass Asian with uncanny valley face during the CG sequences (Wakka was Asian but he did not look uncanny in the CG scenes). I cannot stand the idea that Nomura insists Sora is a shitty Asian. I will not accept Cloud as Asian. I will not accept Squall as Asian. I will not accept Zidane as Asian (Nomura redesigned him during Dissidia). I will not accept Cecil as Asian (Dissidia). I will not accept Warrior of Light as Asian (Dissidia).

And I will not accept Sora as a shitty Asian. Mr. Disney a shitty Asian? Nomura get killed Gunpe Yokoi style. I really fucking hate Sora being an Asian this is the reason I will NOT buy Kingdom Hearts 4.

Every Japanese-made character is asian until explicitly shown otherwise. How haven't you learned this yet?

I started to hate Sora's wardrobe as Kingdom Hearts 2. I hate the spam of Mostly Black With Some Red. I understand KH2 Sora has black but his colors are blended with other lively variety. I hate Nomura's obsession with black clothes for Sora. If anything right now I'm surprised Nomura has not given Sora a Full Black Outfit like the shitty characters from Final Fantasy 15. It utterly drains the color and life out of Sora to see him wearing dark clothing. I just can't fucking stand it.

In that regard the series Metal Gear fares better you have Japanese mixed characters like Miller but you look at him and he looks Full White American. Say what you will but I just like white people, don't give me that everyone is Asian bullshit because Japan made it. What's next? Asuka from Evangelion is Asian? The bitch is blatantly German.

what happened to anime characters having insane haircuts and fluffy hair? now they're all experiencing hair thinning

I agree. One of the worst scenes in the history of Kingdom Hearts is Sora's final speech to Xehanort...

A real leader accepts Destiny no matter what.....but me I like to use Bad Writing super powers to cheat Destiny and revive my dead friends.

I don't care if that entire cut scene was mistranslated the end result is as presented BAD. This is shit. It makes Sora look like a hypocritical retarded bastard. And you know what I really hate? How Sora forgave Namine who poisoned his brain.

If I were writing Kingdom Hearts Sora would have KILLED that bitch the instant she confesses how she damaged his brain. After that I would have Sora go on a personal adventur to find a cure to his damaged brain and memories. That would give him more agency as a character. Fuck trusting cunts who poison your life. And I hate how Namine got revived because Nomura is a shit writer.

This fucking series became so shitty I just can't stand it. These days Sonic Fans and Assassin's Creed fans, YES Assassin's Creed, have every right to make fun of Kingdom Hearts fans. Kingdom Hearts became extremely THAT shitty. And the main protagonist being a hopeless dumb bastard is a huge turn off.

Its perceived to have high production value to make everything sleek/clean/thin as opposed to something more bold and brash. It can work in a case by case basis but you hate to see it when applied to a staple character with history cause that was their identity for the longest time.
I mean just look at Fate/Melty characters. Bad case of that shit

KH2 is peak

On a related tangent: KH4 looks like shit
It looks exactly like KH3
Just kill this franchise already, it's a fucking disgrace
KH used to be a bonafide AAA high quality premium franchise
The last time that was the case was Kingdom Hearts II
Everything after that is soulless slop for midwits

Nomura and Osaka Team ruined KH

Woah dude you had me in the first half but Anon Babble is a NAMINE board and we dont take that slander lightly

kill this franchise already, it's a fucking disgrace

That's not the way the industry works. When a series turns bad you need many failing sequels to tarnish the brand costing the developer a lot of money. These idiots working at companies take a long time to realize their series does not sell well. In the mean time you as a fan get to see many trash ideas tarnishing a once beloved series.

Does he give a shit about his mom?

I prefer the OG render for 2
Smash render his hair look generic as fuck whreas in KH2 render they are stylized to look like a 2D aime drawing
And his facial expression looks like shit on the Smash Model
The belt on the pouch being blue instead of black is also cringe

KH3 both look like shit

KH used to be a bonafide AAA high quality premium franchise

Smash render is peak soulless
Looks AI generated

Based
It's fucking cringe how he turned Tifa into a chink like Rinoa too

Yeah the outfits suck
He's been trying to recapture that KH2 outfit but he just can't do it

t. zoom zoom

KH1 and KH2 were blockbuster AAA games in the PS2 era
But you don't remember it because you're underage

This got the Dearly Beloved mix?

No Sora, don't go to South Korea! They'll force you to get plastic surgery!

no drive gauge

yep it's doa kh2 speedrun autists will have to wait 10 more years for kh5 maybe it will be good kek

Here's my concept for an Emperor's New Groove world.

Sora arrives in Kingdom of the Sun just as Kuzco is being poisoned by Yzma and Kronk. That's the opening cutscene for the world.

The poison actually does kill Kuzco. He splits into his Heartless and Nobody as a result.

His Heartless is by far the largest one in the series. Bigger than the Darkside, or even the largest Emblem Heartless.

It goes on a massive rampage across the kingdom.

Meanwhile, Kuzco's Nobody is the llama, this is never adequately explained, but there's a joke about the Nobody symbol being hidden in an awkward place on his body all along.

Sora never meets Kuzco, who goes through a mostly unchanged b-plot with Pacha, unaware of what his Heartless is doing.

Instead, Sora teams up with Kronk, who comically misrepresents the situation.

The New Organization is working with Yzma to try to harness Kuzco's Darkness for their own ends.

When he's being portrayed in an especially negative light, Kuzco diegetically pauses the game multiple times, including during gameplay, to "set the record straight."

The final boss is Kuzco's Heartless. About to destroy Pacha's home, the New Organization is also about to take control of it.

Before you land the final blow on Kuzco's Heartless, he pauses the game one last time and puts his foot down.

"There's NO WAY I have that much Darkness in my heart. I'm a great guy."

He erases the boss, and replaces it with a normal Shadow, which has exactly 1HP, and doesn't even attack.

You still get the dramatic slowdown and all the rewards for beating the boss, though.

Llama Kuzco has gone through all of his character growth with Pacha in the meantime

He falls down a ravine and dies in a slaptstick fashion.

With his Heartless vanquished, this restores him.

Having failed the Organization, and with Kuzco alive, Yzma attempts to escape, but Kronk accidentally mislabeled her potions, so she ends up trapped as the kitten, like in the movie.

Sora would have KILLED that bitch

but namine is too fuckable. you can't kill peak sexo.

ex guage could still be used as a drive resource.
but we all know the game will be shit and drop the ball mechanically.
and we all know even tho nomura says he'll bring back reaction commands, it's going to be cheap cinematic QTEs like FF16 instead of proper reaction commands with real time gameplay properties and frame data.

This won't ever happen. First of all it's too good for Squeenix writers.
And second, they'll never touch Emperor's New Groove because of Eartha Kitt.
And it deviates too much from the movie for Disney to approve it anyway.

Missing Link Worlds

Scala

Dark World

Final World

Unnamed World

Pinocchio

Neverland

Kingdom of Corona

Monstropolis

San Fransokyo

Disney Town

Destiny Islands

Land of Departure

Arendelle

Olympus

Pride Lands

Hollow Bastion (KH1)

100 Acre Wood

Agrabah

Beast's Castle

Dwarf Woodlands

instead, Sora teams up with Kronk,

good good. the best character.
but you forgot Kronks moral crisis. also you need a boss fight with the villain Yzma.
You need a part where Yzma demands Kronk Help her, While Sora and the other also need help and he needs to consult with his should angle/devil to make a choice.

I didn't have room for that. That broad summary I wrote already hit the character limit. I think there's a lot to play with with Kronk's conscience. The Angel telling him that learning from Sora's naive optimism and obsession with the Light is a good thing, and his Devil telling him that it's much cooler to be the bad guy, and that Sora's a loser with horrible fashion sense.

I hate Nomura

KH4

Replaced the villain from KH1-3 with comic relief Marvel quipping mobile gacha character who appeared in 2 cutscenes in the actual games for 6 minutes and 36 seconds

Organization XIII is replaced with mobile gacha characters who have cardboard one dimensional personalities and appeared in 1 cutscene for 2 minutes and 55 seconds in the actual games

In order to understand backstory you need to play mobile gacha (WHICH IS OFFLINE NOW)

Another mobile gacha that was supposed to contain crucial backstory got cancelled

QTEs

Strong woman representation

Unreal Engine 5

Nomura is retiring and giving away the franchise to literally who

IT'S OVER

and that Sora's a loser with horrible fashion sense

It's true

I can fucking hear it.

You... Uh. You sure you wanna be seen with this kid?

He's a dork. A looooser. Who told him all those zippers were a good idea? And the Plaid? Ew. It's not 2010 anymore. It's like they plucked him outta the catalogue for THAT store at the mall.

On one hand, I would've loved to get Missing Links story.
On the other hand, I'm glad I don't gotta go through 3 years of Agrabah again