We didn't know how good we had it back then

We didn't know how good we had it back then...

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fuck off, retard

the game was a shallow system shock ripoff in terms of design, and the gameplay was slow plodding bullshit punctuated by monster closets and one of the worst shotguns in gaming

the only good part about it is the lighting

filtered

you are supposed to use the shotgun at point blank you fucking retarded idiot
if you want to use a sniper like weapon, then the shotgun is a bad choice
LMAO, what a fucking faggot

LE WORST SHOTGUN EVER

kys

Hi fag who hasn't played it and only watched Civie's video

having to pick between flashlight and your guns

I can imagine it now

marine, you are to kill demons now that are far away, you must pick suitable weapon of death;

do you pick the machine gun, plasma rifle, rocket launcher or perhaps even chaingun for demon killing at long range?

or do you pick short range shotgun?

...

you need to watch some youtubers video fro the shotgun to not to be shit

I could only play it for 20 minutes because I was too scared.

amazing gamedesign, tension and horror when you still armed to the teeth

I finished DOOM 3 last week, it made DOOM 2016 more endearing to me. I now love performing glory kills at any opportunity I have because now I think in all the bullshit jumpscares and spooky crap I had to endure for hours. And those fucker IMPs, I love bashing their skull to the wall, no more jumpscares motherfucker.
youtube.com/watch?v=EHM2OIcG8Ok

Doom 3 is not even a Doom game

Anon Babble always being wrong is an amazing guide for playing actual good games.

Anon Babble says doom 3 is shit

its great

Anon Babble says far cry 2 is shit

its great

Anon Babble says max payne 3 is shit

its great

Anon Babble says need for speed prostreet is shit

its great

Anon Babble says far cry 3 is great

its shit

Anon Babble says forza horizon 5 is great

its shit

I think majority of original Anon Babble liked D3

it's the post-newfag-cancer crowd that just watched a few youtube videos of some absolute braindead incompetent youtube-essay idiots and then just adopted this whole notion that the shotgun is bad

shotgun le bad, therefore whole game is le bad

retard

if you played any mod that tightens the spread you will realize how stupid this post is just play overthinked.

le shotguns are le point blank weapon meme

you are a retarded nigger

FPBP

It's a fun game. They just needed to keep bodies from despawning, and have more variety to monster spawns, density, and shorten their announce phase when spawning. I say the latter because you can spawncamp almost everything.

I like how gay pedophiles will whine about something as insignificant as the shotgun having too much spread

waah waah, I can't snipe with this weapon and have to use it at melee range

Don't use it then. Better yet, instal a mod to change the shotgun.
These faggots, mentally ill subhumans, refuse to mod Doom 3 to make the game better but will spend hundreds of hours modding Bethesda games and then praise bethesda games because the modding is ''good''

Tranny cope disguised as anything but tranny cope.
This is just ''I like this game, therefore Anon Babble hates it (but I am not Anon Babble even though I am faggot on Anon Babble)

Anon Babbleedditors loves Max Payne 3 and considered it the best one in the series and it's complete shit.
Anon Babbleedditpedos love Far Cry 2 and say it's this amazing game. It's terrible.

Eternal > 1 & 2 > 3 >>>>>>>>>>> 2016

Depending on the situation you are in, you equip a different weapon that works best,
so you have to quickly think about the environment and the type of enemies and switch
to a appropriate weapon
It is called ::

"video game mechanics"

Did people's brains literally got mushed from all the brain-rot they are consuming?

Pathetic ass niggers who only play fortnite or some other child games need to get the fuck out of this thread and stop crying

shut the hell up you dumb faggot. no one cares what you have to say

Kill yourself trans freak

Anon Babble says need for speed prostreet is shit

its great

Ayo hol up
I had skipped Pro Street back in the day because it was supposed to be shit but Anon Babble told me it's actually good so I gave it a try.
That doesn't match with your narrative.

disingenuous poster. The problems with the shotgun comes when you are in a situation where distance is good enough for a decent shot, and yet its still its a miss or the shot wasn't powerful enough because of the RNG for each bullet. Shooting a single enemy is no problem, when you are surrounded and running, it becomes a problem.

almost, you need to find the sweet-spot,
just take a step closer to the imp for shoot and back up.

when you are surrounded and overwhelmed , you shouldn't have, you did something wrong

Doom 3 marine > Doom slaya

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OP here sorry wrong image

hit a guy with torch
he dies and decomposes into a skeleton
uninstall game

Anon Babble says Doom: the dark ages is good

it's shit

yeah, everyone was just as hype about this because of its lighting as well.

unironically defending the Doom 3 shotgun

sniper like weapon

5 feet from the wall

Why are you faggots so disingenuous? I love Doom 3 and the Shotgun is inexcusably bad.

Never understood the hate for Doom 3, it's a fun game with great atmosphere. I hate how cartoony nuDoom is.

the numbers are in

If the shotgun is only good at pointblank then why have it? It should be the medium range range, not the point blank weapon. Instead Doom3 is dominated by medium to long range weapons, and one completely unsatisfying pointblank weapon that can still manage to have enough pellets miss that it is not a one shot kill on an imp where the barrel is shoved right down the imps imp's throat. It's not satisfying in the slightest.

this actually. its a video game thing in a video game, shotguns dont need to be hyper realistic, its a video game. if you couldnt make it work then you are a SHITTER

Completely different game. The only similarity is that they look like they are made on the same engine. Actually insane how two companies came out with engines this similar independently. John Carmack is considered a coding wizard and then some random company makes the same thing and puts Xzibit in it.

Doom 3 is fucking garbage

THE RULE HOLDS TRUE

I don't remember ANY of Doom 3's weapons feeling especially satisfying to use.

system shock ripoff

Half-life ripoff actually.

ID had no idea how players would take the gun they designed. They made the gun so that it's really deadly at close range and at medium range it will do some damage but not miss. The gun is mostly the way it is because they did a lot of multiplayer playtesting.

What they didn't consider is that players would have a meltdown because psychologically they feel cheated when the gun does 180 damage up close but ''only'' 50-80 at medium range. The difference in damage is so huge that the player has a tantrum and feels like the weapons isn't doing anything at medium range.
It's just a massive flaw with how human (or retard) brains work. Because you just saw this shotgun oneshot an enemy, now you use the gun at a longer range and your brain can't comprehend, why is it taking 2 shots to kill this enemy? Why did it take 3? Your retard brain just observed with its own eyes that the shotgun kills enemies in one shot, but now it takes 3? What the fuck, something must be wrong

This is a real problem with brainlets. The people who developed Doom 3 and playtested it didn't have this psychological hangup and they understood how much damage they did and the utility of doing less damage spread in a bigger area.

plasma gun
super shotgun from ROE

and hl2 in the expansion with their own gravity gun

that's how shotguns work in real life, what's the point of that webm?

This post fucking stinks.

Alright you fucker, I've acquired Dooms 1, 2, and 3. After this weekend not going to be gaslit about "what doom really is" any more by 2016fags and 3schizos.

the only real DOOM games are 1 & 2. The rest are pale attempts to modernize it.

Forgot 3, king

carmack being involved in 3 is enough for it to count, it's not nu-ID yet.

Carmack is... le good

tranny tranny tranny tranny

Warped.

the game was a shallow system shock ripoff in terms of design

wut
Both system shocks play nothing like it. What are you even talking about? The audio logs or something?

same can be said about george lucas

Tranny losing his mind

you mean the best shotgun? It felt fucking great.

there's a sweet spot between 3 and 2016 i feel like we missed. id's gone so nutty with the mechanics at this point, it may as well be a new series. i like them, but doom is beginning to get twisted out of its natural shape. resurrection of evil is probably the closest to what i would want modern doom to feel like. i think i'll replay 3 after i finish dark ages. if that ever fucking happens, how many times i'm having to replay missions for all the nonsense i missed.

Took your sweet time, Marine?

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FPBP

DOOM 3 started as a remake of DOOM in an attempt to modernize it with advanced tech back then. The team didn't liked the idea because they rightfully thought they were falling into the same pits and cliches. Carmack gave an ultimatum and they made the game. That's why the game doesn't know if it wants to be an immersive sim with the interactable screen and environments, or to throw bunch of enemies at you so you don't forget this is a DOOM game.

assholes and elbows

I'll make a note of it.

Anything past 2016 is irredeemable shit.
The sweet spot would be between 1/2 and 3.
What held back Doom 3 was trying too hard to have cutting edge graphics which lead to less enemies on screen and smaller environments.
They could have made more open maps and said fuck you to everyone who can't run the game and made them wait a year or two for tech to catch up, like Crysis who released a game that no one could run for many years. We could have lived in a ''but can it run Doom 3?'' world.

and the result was good

DAMN I just died because I missed my melee parry! HAHA how silly am I! Classic DOOM gameplay rocks am I right???!!!

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this is why I feel Q4 used the engine to its fullest

This is a toxic post.

I should have parried all those cyberdemons back in 1994

There are what I assume paid shills in the doom subreddit talking about how DOOMTDA is actually good and how they hated eternal but this game is so much closer to "classic doom" so you are not far off according to them
This game is such a fucking clusterfuck

I liked Quake 4 way better than Doom 3.
They should make more (singleplayer) Quake games.

PROTIP: to kill the cyberdemon, parry its attacks until it dies.

agreed, it felt like starship troopers at times, it was great. too bad what ever comes next is gonna be nu-id slop.

I dont see the point, of ehter 3 or the nu trilogy
Classic doom wads are still fun great shit coming out all the time, and classic doom gameplay is pretty much perfection
I guess thats also a curse when you peak with the first game because there is legit nowhere else better to go

I played Q4 expecting it to be total slop and ended up loving it.

Played Prey (2006) immediately afterwards expecting it to be a masterpiece and got very disappointed.

it's time for us to collectively admit that Doom has never been that good

kys zoomer

What, with the absolute worst doom game ever created? How they went from making two of the most satisfying shotguns in video game history to the limp as fuck guns in that game baffles me. Complete shit, and not even scary enough to be considered a good horror game. The desperation with the shitty gravity gun ripoff in the expansion speaks volumes.
DOOM 2 > DOOM > DOOM Eternal > DOOM (2016) > DOOM Dark Ages

DOOM 64 >>>> Poo >>>> DOOM 3

Based plutonia enjoyer.

"the worst entry is actually the best" is a shartnigger raiding tactic

Eternal kids telling you weapon switching is borderline chess or solving high level mathematics

Will stubbornly shoot at imps with the shotgun in D3 from 30 feet away and too stupid to switch to any of the 9 other weapons, and blame the game for it.

Tell me how that makes any sense?

DOOM 2 > DOOM

DOOM Eternal > DOOM (2016) > DOOM Dark Ages

let me fix it for you:
DOOM > DOOM 2 > DOOM 2016 > DOOM Eternal > DOOM 3 > DOOM 64 > DOOM The Dark Ages

BUT WHERE'S THE TUMBLR LINKS??????

A multi-million selling, critically acclaimed, loved by players game is actually le bad and saying you like it is a raid because.....uhhh it just is okay!

interdasting anon

"Real Doom" only consists of the Doom and Doom II scene and the mid 90's Final Doom scene. What is known by "3d Doom" is nothing but mainstream shooters with questionable real Doom influence. When people try to argue that games like Doom Eternal are not real Doom, while saying that Doom 3 is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake Doom as Doom Eternal (plus the pretentiousness). Real Doom plays ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake Doom is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into gameplay. Some examples of REAL DOOM are Master Levels for Doom II, No Rest for the Living, Final Doom (the only real Doom standalone game from other developer) and Legacy of Rust. Some examples of FAKE DOOM are Doom 64, Doom 3 and Doom: The Dark Ages DOOM BELONGS TO FIRST-PERSON SHOOTERS NOT TO TERROR, PLATFORM, RPG OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

Seeing the player's shadow from an imp fireball flying past your head is the coolest shit ever. This game looks so fucking good. Good lighting never ages.

loads in two shells

each shell increases the ammo count by two

Lol, what shit

posting exactly like a shartnigger is not helping your case
just go ahead and post your shitjaks so we can all move on

No amount of shitty revisionism will ever make doom 3 good

dilate troon

slow shitty doom

yeah no faggot

The only reason Doom 3 is praised now is because it's an aesthetic game and no one has energy to actually play games anymore

Doom 1 has better levels and flow, but the super shotgun is too big of a plus to ignore. Plus the level design, while slightly worse, isn’t as shit as people make it out to be
2016 isn’t better than eternal. I went back and played them recently and 2016 is way too slow. Super shotgun feels a little bit lacklaster.
Just because Dark Ages was a disappointment doesn’t make it the worst in the entire series. It’s still fine, and considerably better than the slop that was 3

yeah just having an opinion is fine

no, it isn't

You can always tell when someone got their opinion from a Youtube video. Yeah, the shotty isn't great but it wasn't really a point of contention until there was a video on D3 and now some sperg brings it up every thread.

It’s praised because this board is full of contrarians.

oooh I’m so much more enlightened and not like the other girls because I like the least popular one. god I’m so smart

you know people saying they like it isn't going to change anything or end your world

plasma and chaingun are good. the chainsaw is surprisingly powerful.
the double barrel shotgun from the expansion is good but I assume most people didn't play that

Hey you! Can you help me?! I'm trapped in here! Release the doors locks and get me out!

takes 15 seconds to kill 2 demons

pfahahah

assuming you have doom + doom II on steam, try the plutonia experiment after doom 2

the shotgun in a doom game being shit was never a point of contention

Cmon now. The shotgun in doom 1 and 2 is incredibly satisfying, and the super shotgun still to this day is one of the best feeling weapons in ANY First Person Shooter. Of course a horrible feeling shotgun is going to be something people don’t like. I only played the game a few years ago and it was immediately apparent how big of a problem it was

It's a long shot because it was an Alpha, but the Doom 3 Alpha with trent reznor sfx was immensely better and atmospheric.

A few years back I played Eternal and immediately afterwards Doom 3. The cultural shock is immense

From cleaving gods with your bare hands to being weaker than lowly unarmed zombies
From running around at 60 mph without tiring to being fatigued after after lightly jogging 10 feet
From being catapulted from orbit to a planet’s surface like it was a regular Tuesday to taking damage after dropping from any height higher than 4 feet

playing through doom 3 right now and it's easily the worst id game i have played (so far), it's like a very shitty and cramped quake 2 with good graphics and super unsatisfying guns and dark as fuck levels, why does the flashlight even have to run out if it recharges in seconds? and don't get me started on the cutscenes, half an hour just to start using the shotgun, this game is super poorly designed

See the trick with the Doom 3 shotgun is to pretend it doesn't exist after picking up the Machine Gun.

lol a real retard in the wild
Doom 3 is the best selling Doom

Doom 3 (2004): >3.5 million copies

Doom (1993): ~3.5 million copies (by 1999)

Doom Eternal (2020): >3 million digital copies

Doom II (1994): >1.8 million copies

Doom: The Dark Ages (2025): Player count of 3 million, but no sales figures released (i.e Gamepass)

You don't understand how much of nu-v have been corrupted by youtube video essays until one of them makes a video on an older title. It used to be a nice wee treat when I would check Anon Babble and find a rare Thief thread until a Youtuber released a video on it, and I got 24/7 back to back Thief threads for 2 weeks all filled the identical youtubers opinion. Daily threads but with absolutely no value added. Very sad indeed.

just mod the shotgun you fucking filtered nigger faggot.

sales numbers means quality

Wew lad

"UHHHH WTF THIS ISNT REALISTIC AT ALL

game with demons

It was hard to use since launch, but instead of bitching about it, people just dealt with it. Still is satisfying to a degree.

I still feel the super shotgun from Q2 >

I just keep RANDOMLY DYING
Either hitboxes are FUCKED or there are thousands of fucking small shockwave like attacks that are invisible because I legit just fucking die to nothing
Nothing on the screen, maybe something behind but I wont know I randomly fucking died

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Doom 3 got good reviews too

Nice goalpost moving. And yes, Doom 3 is the highest quality doom, and the most popular and the best selling one.
nuDoom is only more popular with pajeets playing on gamepass

youtu.be/Rvy49sBIYu0

Here's your metal soundtrack bro.

i really like the reload sounds of the weapons

All the little tiny retards throw pebbles at you, you gotta keep moving or they'll get you.
There are translucent enemies that are extremely difficult to see if you have vision issues. There is a chance you might just be missing some of them

Okay so in your mind sales, journalist reviews and user reviews aren't indicators of quality so what is?

they also said star ocean 4 is shit, but it's actually a fun game.
6 is probably good as well, still have to play it at some point

That might be a complaint in of itself but few people compare Doom and Doom 3, D3 was almost always treated as a standalone, seperate game. (after its initial launch) And often skipped when people play through the 'old school' titles. So yeah, nobody was comparing shotguns between Doom 1/2 and 3. As strange as it seems. Doom 3 was too much of a black sheep.

Good atmosphere is superior to the first games ripping off Metallica or the new games with that faggot using guitars as some weird high pitched synth instrument that just screeches in your ear, where the guitar is just a shitty sample that matters so little the guy can just record chainsaws and then pitch it up and distort it until it's the same uniform ear rape high pitch noise

nigga you play eternal which has flashy colors and adhd gameplay with marvel tier lore, fuck off.

My opinion

How many people are playing doom 3 right now faggot?

in reality the real thing people bitched about doom 3 at launch was the flashlight swapping. people just laughed about the shotgun and moved on.

I think its the pebbles
Its stupid

Me

Doom 3 was not only the best Doom game, but was one of the greatest games ever made ever on the planet.

I'm playing the Dark mod again, does that count?

explain this

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Let’s see the steam charts sissies, you love those right?

Why would you play Doom 3 on steam?

BFG edition

Wow, almost 2 million plebs who DON'T play the real Doom 3!

HOLY FUCK

Contraritrannies did NOT like this one

I kneel...

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Bring back Hexen.

Doom 3 if it was a competitive shooter with knife skins

flashlight skins

Bullshit, but i'll believe it.

whoops I meant Heretic

each one has a special animation too

You can tell Bethesda owns doom because the shills have started saying "you can fix it with mods!!!"

Doom 1 and 2 are only regarded highly these days because of the endless amount of custom content that exists. The base games are simplistic and only beloved by autists who speed run nightmare difficulty with no damage taken.
Original Doom 3 should be played, not BFG Edition. 3's biggest downside is the bland level design (excluding Hell) which becomes apparent when you play mods like Phobos.

I knew DOOM had some heavy metal influence, but now it hits home.

LOL

wrong and stupid

No, you meant Hexen.

You are right but boomers and zoomers larpers be like

*circle strafes demons in flat levels in 2.5D engine and autoaim*

You have not played Doom.

mfw neo/v/ pretends doom 3 is good

Tried playing this for the first time recently right before Dark Ages came out. I can respect the graphical detail and the balls they had to try turning DOOM into a survival horror game. Sadly the combat is boring. Level design can be a pain to navigate too since everything looks the same and you need to hit a lot of switches that are easy to miss.

whats with the daily doom 3 glazing?

what's the actual problem?

FPBP

fpbp. doom 3 sucks dicks. its only passable as a VR mod

doom 3 is aryan shemmycuck

Level design can be a pain to navigate too since everything looks the same and you need to hit a lot of switches that are easy to miss.

sounds like a navigational skill issue on your part

speak english basedtroon

The debate about the merits of Dark Ages vs Eternal vs 2016 vs Fuck nuDoom opened another front

defending the worst shotgun in the series

Lol this is why no one takes 3tards seriously, anyone who has two braincells and is not a shill can tell you how this shotgun is fucking dogshit
So much so that they had to fix it with Super Shotgun in ROE

you got filtered, bud

first post is about the meatshotgun

Knew it

reinstalling Doom 3

Okay so in your mind sales, journalist reviews and user reviews aren't indicators of quality so what is?

Y'all know " " Games Journalism " " is a fucking business right? like, heavily tied towards developers.

Next you're gonna tell us how fucking Emmy's mean shit and aren't just shit people pay for...

Get the redux mod.

yet the opinions of Anon Babble users without any credentials or vetting is any better. or the next step up, some random streamer that thinks for you.

yuck how lame I wish you retards would actually glaze good games like quake 2

They hated him because he spoke the truth

It's just first-person Dead Space
Which to be fair is pretty good. But we had a Dead Space come out like 2 yrs ago

roe still not supported

I wish he would hurry the fuck up

Doom 3 was kino.

The atmosphere and vibe is not unlike the setting in the first Alien movie, and I love it.

You idiots only shows that love to eat old dried shit instead of hot new shit to feel special.Pathetic.
Go play DOOM1+2 and the 2016 version the only games that matter.

doom 3 in VR is intense. hd a lot of fun. Shotgun now can be used to kill stuff across the room and they made it kinda easier with the damager you take. I guess they were thinking people were going to struggling with VR so they dumbed the damage down

I love doing that

man with no standards claims everyone else is the problem

what I hate about DOOM 3 the most is the music, the game hypes you up with this banger in the main menu
youtube.com/watch?v=SzI7DLR0DPU
but when you actually get to play the game, the music is mostly ambient sounds and silence.

this post is pure reddit

Love survival horror

Love sci-fi horror

Love Doom

Could never get into Doom 3

I don't even know what it is, I just find it boring.

walk up close

click once

win

Whoa truly a pinnacle of FPS genre right here.

He is, when we're talking about the technical side of things. Dude was a wizard with computer code and was a pioneer for a lot of the basic shit we take for granted today technology wise for games.

Retarded contrarians

Doom 1

Better level and flow

Episode 1 has great levels and flow...because it was the portion that was the shareware part. It gives you just enough weapon and enemy variety with levels that are fairly intuitive that it's hard to get lost. Episode 2 is a bit more varied with the level layouts which get noticeably larger, but are still fine. Episode 3 has some of the worst levels in the game and I don't care how novel it is, a fucking hand is not a fun level to play and Sandy Petersen should've had someone double check his work because his levels are the weakest of the bunch.

this wave of contrarian retardation set off by Dark Ages

shotguns are melee weapons

No.

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enemies are Neo-Assyrian

It was a better doom game than anything that came after it.

I love literally every major Doom game, as theyre all good in different ways

what the hell else is an fps supposed to be?

a fucking hand is not a fun level to play

Sounds like a skill issue.

DOOM 3 gets points for maintaining the same goal of the original DOOM games, which was, a normal dude killing demons and attempting to survive a demonic invasion. It didn't have the cringy "DOOM slayer" you are the only thing the demons fear shit. From that standpoint it's still a very compelling game.

The plot was good too and aligned with the original games.

plot in porn

The plot should support the porn. For Doom 3, the plot and gameplay were made to support the new engine and what could be done with it. So it's a pseudo horror shooter where things are dark, claustrophobic, and enemies could jump out of any shadow...and there are a lot of shadows.

Doom 3 was fucking giga soul

Is there a mod for BFG edition that adds back the slower more tense gameplay with having to hot swap between the flashlight and the guns?

If all you want to do is run around and shoot at shit mindlessly, you can do that in Doom 3. Nobody is stopping you.

That faggot Carmack can fuck himself for that dogshit and untrue analogy

True, to this day tweaker is the best menu song to ever exist

fpbp
We're not rewriting history and pretending it was any good, it was the reason the series got put on an 11year hiatus, turning doom into a tech demo to avoid stepping on quake's feet was retarded

that's how shotguns work in real life

eurofag detected

I agree, doom 3 being a doom game would imply doom games are good which they are not, I'm glad that doom 3 is not considered a doom game

It is a shame that aimlets refuse to enter the instant-fucking-death range of the doom 3 shotgun. Even hell knights fall like dominoes to the beast of a weapon it is. RoE hard to massively increase the number of high tier enemies in it just to make an attempt at slowing the player down once they get the SSG.

that shotgun. holy fuck! So good

spread mod

what the hell else is an fps supposed to be?

Enemies should pose a challenge and have interesting behaviors: rushing, retreating, dodging, flanking. Go play Unreal or Fear.

neither of those games have any of that

see enemy

shoot him

WOW truly the pinnacle of fps!

soul

To add to this, enemies should have different roles that support other enemies in the roster and force different approaches by the player. If the only difference is the paint scheme, then it's not a different enemy.

Well FEAR has one enemy type in the whole game so it's definitely not that and everything is solved by going into slo mo and clicking on heads. No movement, no enemy prioritization, no weapon swapping. Just as basic and bland an fps can be.

Reminds me how I found resurrection of evil at a gas station for 15 bucks a long time ago. Had no idea there was an expansion

mod double barrel shotgun into base game

woops everything is dead

it's unfortunate because it's just as good if not better than the main game imo. the double barrel fucks and the not-gravity gun is pretty fun to use

FEAR technically had different enemies in it, like the remote flying drones, the big ass walkers, and the super heavy troops...but rarely mixed these together. So you mostly fought the Replicant soldiers in office spaces or sewers, who at least were good about splitting up and trying to flank or flush you out with grenades and such. It was one of the few times where a game gave me mines and I actually used them by goading the bad guys into them by shooting then retreating.

Doom 3 doesn't get enough points for having a lot of elements of the first 2 games.

key cards and whatnot for doors

puzzles here and there

lots of hidden weapons, ammo, armor to find which constantly encourages the player to explore

lots of little stories here and there regarding the people on the base

monster closets which the OGs had too

it is genuinely fun to blast imps into dust in Doom 3. The way they fall back, the loud BWOOM. Doom 3 shotgun is one of the meatiest sounding shotguns of any game ever.

2005 game using traditional rendering techniques mogs modern ray tracing slop by using drawn lighting

Many such cases

I fucking miss stencil shadows so much bros.

I remember trying this game out as a kid and I was too scared to progress past the first level.
I just hid in one of the dark corner hoping to avoid the demons.
Dropped the game shortly after.

I think a porno about a male teacher fucking all of the students of an all-girls school can be more interesting than say, a clip of two people fucking in a blank background without sound. The Dark Ages would be the equivalent of a 3 hour long porno with a 30 minutes long introduction explaining the background of the teacher, and also there's bits of story explaining how the school was built in-between the sex scenes.

just skip the custscenes, bro!

that would be like fast-forwarding the video until the next scene of fucking pops up, sure I can do that, but it's annoying and I would rather jack off without stopping to manually search for the next good part.

I think he retracted himself years after he said that, because there are some games that do have good stories.
The way I see it, some games benefit from having a compelling story while other do not. Nobody plays DOOM for the story the same way people don't play fucking Tetris for the story, but for some reason the nu-Doom devs (especially Hugo Martin) thought that the franchise about a guy killing demons should be deeper than that, and that they needed to write intricate lore, and side characters, and that the narrative should span across 3 games.
They ended up doing the thing they mocked in the 2016 game with Eternal, and straight up making that Call of Doom game that was scrapped before they made 2016.

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So we are at this point where people who weren't playing videogames back then are pretending doom3 was good?
You're fucking pathetic.

Doom3 was complete horseshit compared to its direct competition at that time : far cry and half life 2. But since you were still not born at that time you could not know. Just do yourself a favor and neck yourself.

Mesugaki cunny food analogy