are
it was all just a dream
endings (and similar) inherently bad? if you could avoid it, would you rather games not have them?
Are
it's bad because it discourages world building
in e33 you know nothing about lumiere or the world because it ultimately doesn't matter
hell, even dark souls have deeper lore
do you think that applies to something like Bloodborne? seemed pretty fleshed out
Naw. "it was all a dream" games are only bad if the characters you play as do not remember a single thing from the dream. People like to romanticize that your deceased friends and loved ones aren't ever truly dead so long as you keep them in your heart and mind, same thing applies with simulated people from a dream world.
Dropping the blackpill.
The message of this story is absolutely not about accepting grief or even escapism.And yet that’s what’s been endlessly debated here for weeks, which clearly shows the average IQ of this shithole.No wonder most video games have retarded stories.
The real message is the relationship between the Artist and their work.Actually, Child Verso is the most important element of the ending. He is the real dilemma of the game.
Basically, the final choice comes down to this:
Destruction of the canvas: Child Verso stops painting by his own will.
The Artist retains full ownership of hist Art, even after death.
Their work is timeless.
Preservation of the canvas: Maelle forces Child Verso to keep painting (she is even physically aggressive toward him).
Art no longer belongs to the Artist after death, and everyone is free to make it live on according to their own perception and the context in which they live.
It is no longer timeless.
But go ahead and keep shitposting about Maelle/Verso.
People with a decent intellectual level don’t debate here.
I'm glad we have a scholar among us. Thank you for your wisdom, sir. I wish I was just as smart.
The real message is the relationship between the Artist and their work.
Well, yes. The lead developer literally stated this in an interview.
nigger we know the devs put out an interview that said this
Timeless is when someone whos dead somehow owns an object still
Not timeless is when the Art can be interpreted by anyone in different ways till the end of time.
You're as fucking retarded as the writing in the game.
I only accept them in games from the follwing:
super nintendo
sega genesis
Can I get a link to the interview please?
Thank you anon, very cool!
Super Nintendo
Sega Genesis
God damn I was so disappointed at the start of Act 3. What a stupid fucking twist. I haven't finished the game yet because of it, took all the wind out of my sails (and it was pretty limited to begin with).
Clair Obscur is not a "it was all a dream"
the Painting is real, its a real place you are going inside of, Clair Obscur's real perspective twist is that the family are Gods prancing around with their creations, and cause immense suffering for themselves and their creations in the process.
This is not a twist, dimwit.
Game is called Clair Obscur
Resource is called chroma
Godlike figure called a paintress that erase people
Antagonist is called Renoir
Paintings & frames literally everywhere
Wow you're telling me there's a twist where it's all in a painted world?
Shocking.
its not really a twist but a reveal, its rather obvious from the start it isn't anything like our reality.
it was all just a dream
It isn't a dream retard.
People with a decent intellectual level don’t debate here.
You just watched the interview where the dev spoonfeeds it to some other guy and then sell it as your own wisdom.
I personally was really having fun till that moment. The change of story direction kind destroyed the pacing of the game for me and also didn't help that the balance was all over the place.
I don't know about inherently bad, but I don't like them. Mainly because it make all your interactions and learning about the world and the people inhabiting it mostly meaningless, but also because it always boils down to some form of "you have the strength to face life's problems within you already, you don't need fancy superpowers. believe in yourself". Which is fine, but it happens waaaaay too much.
vindicated as a maelle supporter then. And since I support Maelle frankly I don't give a single fuck what message the writers were trying to convey, i'll take my own.
Creationism in my vidya, no that cannot be. Fiction needs to be grounded in science. No one being can create a universe and its beings that would be utterly absurd.
It is a twist to sub 100 IQ brownoids who pay 0 attention.
who's to say you aren't a creation of beings who they themselves live in a higher level of existence Universe which is just like ours but more fanciful and they have a Godlike entity above them that created their Universe?
Maelle was basically making Rings of Power in her ending
I didn't need to read this retarded post twice
the interviews have made me go full death of the author on this thing, they even deny that grief is significant which is just flat out wrong
still not playing, shill.
they even deny that grief is significant
Did they? Maybe I missed that. I think it's also important to remember that he was in a bit of a trolling mood in that interview.
He basically just laughs and makes fun of the guys ending interpretation because he didn't like the jumpscare. He says a ton of things with irony and then there might also be translation issues.
Ain't none of them came over to unerase a gone civilization.
He basically just laughs and makes fun of the guys ending interpretation because he didn't like the jumpscare
Surely you mean the scarejump.
If a Japanese game did this we would call it anime bullshit but since it's the french it's fine
its Anon Babble, you faggots are the most contrarian shits of all time, I've been here over 18 fuckin years and its always the same shit, in and out, you'd hate it/shit on it if it were "anything", why even try to denote "if it were anime"
I enjoyed E33
I enjoyed Second Sight
I enjoyed Jacob's Ladder
Maybe we should not have material things
Embrace the dream
>it was all just a dream
retard lol
its not a dream lol
Enjoying things
that's not allowed here, buddy.
its not really a twist but a reveal
I understood the world was a painting when Lune gives her first dialogue and I'd pieced together that the fundamental elements of their universe are Lumina and Chroma and no one thinks it's weird to live in a city that looks and behaves like a surreal painting. pRenoir and pAlicia EXPLICITLY laying this out was a pretty good indicator, too.
The revelation isn't that they're painted. The revelation is that one of them isn't.
they even deny that grief is significant
The entire point of the story is that it's a tragedy against being seduced by the illusions of the world. Grief is the most powerful of those illusions. You can disagree, but you're disagreeing with Buddha and Jesus. Grief is "Significant" in the sense that you have decided to value it. Try analyzing why you do that and you'll start to understand that grief is a shortcoming that compromises you no differently from lust or greed.
"Dreams" in Bloodborne are separate dimensions that exist either parallel to, or overlapping with "our" reality. We can access these other dimensions in various ways, including sleep.
Retard.
Clair Obscur story is very straight forward. Your schizo post won't make what the story is about real.
but it wasn't all just a dream retard. it was more like a family VR therapy session
Not that anon but what the story is about and what the message is are two different things. Neither your post nor his contradict each other.
it's actually about the beauty of youth you midwith
the entire game is shot from the perspective of maelle's sweet ass
notice how all the camera angles are from below, looking up at her sweet ass?
i don't know how you could have missed this obvious truth, but then again the dumbest people often think they would of been einstein if only they cared about working hard