Thoughts on the state of fighting games?
Thoughts on the state of fighting games?
Buy an ad, faggot.
Funny how mk fumbled the bag this gen like for example sol is in the astrobot but scorpion/sub is not
that's fucking horrific
amazing
MK went woke and died, simple as.
It really is like the 80s again with everyone dancing and shit.
The lack of new IPs is so dire this dude is forced to include blazblue who hasn't had a game in a decade, and the generic faggot from a gacha game
I thought Liu Kang was the MK MC?
More like “Who Kang?”
it's been shit for a very long time
I cant believe how hard i laughed at this stupid shit
akira not even acknowledged
vfbros...
Where is soulcalibur
Get your 3d party mashers out of here
I'm shocked they still have a fanbase after the entire scene that gave them their rise to popularity is long dead.
Notice how series that came after arcades and/or are console only never last?
3d party mashers
Tekken is RIGHT THERE
There was a French Game Symphony Festival and they held a Smash Tournament as part of the entertainment.
Only Smash could get away with such an insane event.
I thought it was Johnny Cage. Like Jack Burton in BTiLC
....ummm
Johnny cage is with the reboot
God I hope AK is fun, I just wonder what the fuck his heat stuff will be.
COUNTER!
There’s nothing that warms my heart more than seeing MK be constantly shat on for being fucking pathetic.
Too bad it's still probably the best selling fighting game out there, even if M1K "flopped" by MK standards.
Robo Ky>>>>>Ky kiske>>>>>>Sol badguy
Where's neco arc?
C-can I join too, k-kisamas?..
Isn't that a theme from Dragonquest playing on an animal crossing map?
Alright, let's try to see if we can make it serious.
Tekken 8's taken a turn for the worse with the season 2 patch, Bamco released a panic patch. But even in spite of this, reception of tourneys has been shockingly positive, which makes reveals like Fakuram all the more facepalming as the devs genuinely have lost the pulse on their own franchise and seem to not understand why people like it, which is why they also forced out the AK teaser recently. They're desperate even though the fans could literally repair some goodwill themselves through gameplay.
SF6 has been pretty stable, throwloops being adjusted has provided more positive feedback for fans. Tourneys are strong, prizes are high, worst thing to worry about is Elena's healing.
Strive got hit with a major leak that only seemed to just leak two characters and nothing else. Apparently the balance has gotten worse over time and even the trannies are getting uppity over it.
Granblue has been getting colder and more obscure as time passes.
COTW has an embarassingly small presence on PC despite it being only a few months. Saudi money still backs major tourneys but no one knows how long the prince will indulge in his toys for. No sales numbers or whatever so no one really knows how bad or good it is right now, but it's not talked about that much, mainly more known for its prize money than gameplay.
Sega devs reveal they're taking VF so seriously that they're willingly ready to cancel it if it doesn't live up to their vision. Seems extremely dramatic, but would be a serious blow to the genre if that came to be, personally.
Meanwhile, other niche titles like anime fighters and SNK fighters are about as alive as they ever were, so not much has changed.
If anything, I'd say it's something resembling stability, but somewhat sensitive as well. It'd be very easy to fuck up, but also hard to make it be acknowledged as "in a good spot".
Robo-Ky is really cool though
I'm not sure that really has anything to do with MK being a critical flop. Guilty Gear debuted on PlayStation.
Everyone knows Stryker is the MC of MK.
My thoughts... really? Then get ready for dooming.
Most of you never cared about fighting games. Most of you did not grow up playing them like I did. I remember discovering Guilty Gear through XPlay on G4TV for Xbox - Guilty Gear XX Reload. I went to EBGames soon after and bought me a copy of the game. It was amazing. Be and my brother played it so much. Before that I played in Arcades. Marvel Super Heroes, Marvel vs Capcom 1, Soul Calibur 1, Tekken 3, etc. (I also enjoy other stuff like Jurassic Park, Rush, XMen 4player cab, Ninja Turtles 4player cab, Simpsons, etc).
Growing up a hardcore gamer in the 90s through 00s was an amazing time. Myself and others were the target audience. Fighting Games were always trying to innovate, trying to evolve the genre, push it to the next level. I remember discovering Combos online for the first time and what was possible in the fighting games I played via Youtube, etc. I was mindblown by the amount of combat depth. The combos video introduce me to new Music Genres I fell in love with. I discovered websites like SRK.com Dreamcancel.com Tekkenzaibatsu.com etc. I discovered Doujin fighting games like Melty Blood and Big Bang Beat Revole. And then there was Mugen. I start watching Gameacho and Mikado YT channel
During the 7th Gen Casualization period of video games I grew sad knowing all the games I loved were getting casualized. However at the time Fighting games were not casualized... yet. So I felt a sigh of relief knowing that in the end I'd have my fighting games... Fast forward to today and things have changed. All the games are watered down. Doujin scene is dead. Japan doesn't make any indie fighting games at all. And the entire FGC was taken over by LGBT gays and casuals and the oldhead simply sit back and allow them to run the scene.
No will say it but I'm saying it. Real fighting games enjoyers know this is fact. But most don't care because they're too hard to be hardcore.
>Sega devs reveal they're taking VF so seriously that they're willingly ready to cancel it if it doesn't live up to their vision. Seems extremely dramatic, but would be a serious blow to the genre if that came to be, personally.
Their words fill me with optimism if anything.
The new entry's producer Riichirou Yamada added to this, reiterating how if the studio head decides development is stopping "it really does stop". The team also aspires to make something that apparently "hasn't been made before" and it's not just a case of "creating games from games".
seems very soulful
buy some pills skitzo
Jack was the sidekick in BTiLC. The story was about Wang.
But most don't care because they're too hard to be hardcore.
Is not your fault honestly casuals spend more money in the games than pose-uhh i mean, fightan enthusiasts.
No one here knows how to fight the online "Discordslop" skinner box ladder problem (also skill gaps aswell)
Kazuya should be getting slapped across the face as well.
You are just nostalgiafagging yes fgc sold out but who cares if you cared about le epic arcades and playing with bro
As good as they ever have been, and better online than ever.
i love the slap part
idgaf how you feel, no wait actually i find it funny.
Now that games are less autistic is my time to shine and you can't do anything about it cause even if you try to give yourself some air of importance for being le skilled oldfag no one gives a fuck nor respect the old games, meanwhile people praise my mad skillz in sf6 HAHAHAHAH
unironically
ZoomerGOD response
MillenialDIETY responses
Gen x 40 year old man-child cuck sobbing
Excellent post.
ayyy yooo that nigga scorpion got dropped less GOOOOOOOOOO
Who let that granblue nigga in? He lame as fuck
Fighting games just aren't interesting anymore. They're B tier games that can be made on the cheap and pumped out regularly. Adding insult to injury is the fact their monetization practices are incredibly predatory. It's just a boring and stagnant genre at this point which is why people cling to one or two games and ignore the rest
Don't give up bro.
fighting games are no different than gacha slop at this point. its funny to see everyone bitching about 80 dollar games meanwhile a whole ass fighting game is sold in multiple bundles forcing the player to spend at least 100 dollars.
59.99 just the game
79.99 for game+DLC before game is even out
Then another 29.99 for DLC2
then another 29.99 for DLC3
like holyshit lmao
SF6 has been pretty stable, throwloops being adjusted has provided more positive feedback for fans. Tourneys are strong, prizes are high, worst thing to worry about is Elena's healing.
SF6 is stale as fuck
Characters either abuse game mechanics in the same way (which is really effective), or they don't really work
This leads to a very uniform game plan against most characters because it's more about system mechanics than character kits
The only matches I find fun anymore are low tier to low tier, because there's none of the drive rush into corner rape abuse
I wouldn't be too optimistic about S3 changes, there's no indication that they're gonna remove throw loops yet
As for Elena, her healing is locked to SA2, which is going to make it far less obnoxious than it was in SFIV
Strive got hit with a major leak that only seemed to just leak two characters and nothing else. Apparently the balance has gotten worse over time and even the trannies are getting uppity over it.
Strive's balance is weird
The game is very enjoyable, until you get to something like top 8 characters which are incredibly stupid. You can lose some matches against them because they made you block once, leaving you stuck in their pressure with no options other than "guess right"
S4 patch had the right idea, they wanted to increase individuality and nerf damage
Some changes are sensible, like Nago no longer being able to cancel his H normals or his Blood Rage super leaving him at 1HP, Faust interacting more with his items, or Giovanna being even stronger than before if she's holding 100 meter
However they buffed some top tiers, and reworked some characters which made them top tier
Decreasing damage made high HP characters (=top tiers) stronger and made low damage characters (=low tiers) weaker
They nerfed chip damage on guard crush in an attempt to try to nerf Goldlewis (top tier), and the result was that Bedman felt more of a nerf
Also the last DLC character is obnoxiously good
Pretty bad. I've went back to playing sf4 and considering buying sfv again lol
Bro don't sf5 basically killed street fighter for half a decade it's a game for noone
But Ryu, you're already there
I need VF6 right now
Still cheaper than a year of Netflix.
and it's awesome
Add Jinx there.
Modern fighting games are absolute dogshit that miss the entire point of the genre. they appeal to ADHD riddled zoomer children who don’t actually play the games but just watch streams of them.
who else should i add? I'm thinking Gill, Maximo, Demitri and Blanka would be solid.
he is the most boring guy in his own franchise
banger pic
They're in a bad state because I haven't played a fighting game in 2 years
They will be in a good state when I decide to play again
I already have strive and sf6 installed now I'm just waiting for the motivation to hit
the most boring dogshit roster imaginable
you're trying too hard
Awful
you're literally the same IP as before
generic basic bitch shit
That post didnt really age..
so well
2XKO is unironically DoA
lol actual kusoge
I thought this was the game that was supposed to save the genre?? Saysham and Maxishillian kept advocating for free fightan????
There's nothing about 2xko that sticks out to me
It's so bland even from a spectator perspective
Can't imagine watching this during EVO where it's the best place to market the damn game
infinite meter
lil nigga not pushblocking or bursting
fake webm
I like Guilty Gear Xrd
Way to miss my point, dev bro
what fucking point use your defensive mechanics just like that guy is using his offensive mechanics like assist and tag switch
I dont know why this game looks like dogshit while being backed by Riot/Tencent. All other fighting games run on "potatoes" so that retarded argument instantly loses any weight. This games entire art direction is so fucking ugly and generic its insane. Even LoDs on character models and stages look like early PS4 title and animation wise it looks ass too.
I'm still playing Killer Instinct. Don't care about any new shit.
based
END THE ULTRA
is KI the first fighting game with autocombos?
SHADOW COUNTER
The point is that..
2xko is supposed to be a easy game for new comers..
New Rival Schools when?
guilty queer
best fg
lol what
its pride month anon, be nice to the guilty gear troons
the state of fighting games is a lot healthier than the state of fighting games players.
realistically there's probably too many, as weird as that might be. unfortunately if it isn't a big player like SF, you better be on the train ride at launch and git gud enough to hang when it becomes a ded discord fighter, or there will be no point playing 90% of them.
its pride month
Not where I live though so fuck guilty trooncels.
you better be on the train ride at launch and git gud enough to hang when it becomes a ded discord fighter, or there will be no point playing 90% of them.
I really wish Casualfags didnt have such retarded mentality
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the problem with strive is guard crush and defensive mechanics being weak with extremely harsh consequences if baited. I don't know why the fuck do they have such an hard on for that bullshit mechanic no one likes.
Also, but maybe it's the shitter in me talking, i hate when i guess right on a mixup or some bullshit neutral skip and i'm forced to rps anyway or it's still their fucking turn just because. Look at millia, or look when i block nago or unika faggot ass neutral skip. Nope they still can do their bullshit. Too much man, too much
I'm still mad they turned the game into marvel instead of street fighter adjacent.
how so? "casual" player of GBF, i hit matchmaking not long after 2B came out, and never find a game. can't play the game casually, it's that simple.
Who the fucks in the middle
fightan YouToobers shilled THIS
Look at millia
just air throw her
retard has no transferable fundies
tale as old as time
YEET YEET YEET YEET
Bad. New releases are ugly and dumbed down, but the scene is flocking to these shitty new releases because recency bias means these games have more active player bases -- relatively speaking because even new games can barely get a couple thousand active players, old fags just drop games and move on and new fags are too intimidated to play.
slime fighter 6 getting zero system changes with elena update
tekken 8 suiciding repeatedly
Holding out for VF6 being sick (they're already beta testing new features in VF5, and the yakuza devs are onboard to create a yakuzalite single player for the normies)
Also hoping I live to see a new Fight Night before I die, sometimes it's fun to chill out and throw hands
i hit matchmaking not long after 2B came out
Are you talking about ranked? Most people hang around S ranks
I don't think guard crush is fundamentally bad, Bedman or Dizzy taking 30f to charge a move in your face should be rewarded, the problem is when characters like Goldlewis or Sin can just force it on you, rob you of YRC/Deflect Shield and force a mix
defensive mechanics being weak
I don't know how people keep saying that when IB/IBFD/Backdash can completely get you out of pressure and even grant you a punish
FD barely costs tension and really blows through some blockstrings, especially if you stand block (eg. Slayer fS, Sol's only got 2D as a low gatling from cS)
IB/IBFD are risk free if you're in absolute guard as well, if you know your knockdowns you can attempt them on wakeup as well
extremely harsh consequences if baited.
Only backdash/reversals/burst and Deflect Shield in certain scenarios
Dying on a whiffed DP is universal anyway
Also, but maybe it's the shitter in me talking, i hate when i guess right on a mixup or some bullshit neutral skip and i'm forced to rps anyway or it's still their fucking turn just because. Look at millia, or look when i block nago or unika faggot ass neutral skip. Nope they still can do their bullshit. Too much man, too much
Kinda depends, left/rights aren't too bad if you have meter since you can either do a DP OS (iirc like 421S+H if you're playing Sol) or universally a Deflect Shield OS (2146D+FD)
Millia dies in two combos, and everyone gets decent combos if you anti-air her with 5P/5K/cS, she's more annoying than super dangerous
Nago just dies if he overextends, and his overhead does not lead into a combo if he doesn't get a counterhit (even with a Roman Cancel)
Too early to speak about Unika's pressure yet but you can jump some of her stuff or FD it out
precisely.
Most of the playerbase hangs around lobbies/online groups/offline locals, not in badly designed skinnerboxes.
Especially GBV ranked is ass outside of NA West
Man there's something about KOFXV...
I fucking hate it, it's an unbalanced piece of shit, but I can't stop playing it. I guess I don't want it to beat me, but it kills my mental health to lose to some scrubby favela mutt because I play hard characters while they're facerolling with Terry
I play hard characters while they're facerolling with Terry
thats my biggest gripe with kof15 you can play ez mode niggers like yashiro ryo and benimaru and just do 50% dmg in most basic confirms
they are too aggravating, take too long to learn, require too good a netcode/connection and I am too old and slow.
Who do you play?
IB/IBFD
cmon man, i'm talking about reliable, consistent, humanly doable stuff
Only backdash/reversals/burst and Deflect Shield in certain scenarios
so everything besides burst lol
...
unika charged stun dipper is -3, you still have to rps and she has a dp. It summarizes what pisses me off about the game
Must be hard not being able to read.
still struggling to explain why any fighting game was made after SF2 that isn't just devs seeking rent
Scorpion would rekt them all
GBVSR ranked are fairly active though. At worst you might cycle between a few players. You have to play in the evening to get matches.
why
Forgotten...
I don't want to guess between a charging invincible attack or run up command grab on wake up tho
What kind of retarded thought is this? The devs like fighting games so they make more. Are you dumb?
cmon man, i'm talking about reliable, consistent, humanly doable stuff
There are sequences like Nago fS.S that can reliably be IB/IBFD'd, and if you're still in blockstun by the time the second hit lands, it is absolutely risk free.
Don't dismiss a defensive option because you haven't put in the time to lab it.
unika charged stun dipper is -3, you still have to rps and she has a dp. It summarizes what pisses me off about the game
DP when minus is not a real RPS (and it's not exclusive to Strive), it deals no damage and it lets you know you're fighting a reckless idiot who can't handle any pressure.
If you hold onto that info and just do nothing the next time, she just dies.
World Warrior ain't that good lil bro
combo videos will save fighting games
The only fighting game I really gave a chance was Blazblue but I lost interest in it after CF was done and over. I tried to get into Guilty Gear with Xrd and Strive, but it just didn't have any longevity for me. I constantly wanted to play other games (singleplayer) and I knew I wouldn't really get much out of the fighting genre if I didn't practice. I basically played a bunch of casual matches with friends and realized that was the extent of my interest in playing fighting games.
I used to really dislike the season pass thing, but I also realized I don't play these games long enough for them to matter to me since I won't even be playing them by the time the season pass hits, so it's just irrelevant to me. It's really not hard to get into fighting games if you just want to sit down and actually learn them, but when there's so much other shit to play, it's hard to spend all my time practicing like that for one game. They're just not for me and that's fine.
I'll still occasionally watch the top 8 of a tournament here and there.
download 3S on a whim yesterday
can't stop playing it
First fighting game this has really happened to me with. It's super technical but still fun for a total beginner like me even when I get my ass kicked by 1500 hour Akumas
how about you get ass kicked in games i play instead huh
I'm open to playing more 90s Capcom stuff
3S might not be all that well-made and I hate how unforgiving the motion inputs are, but it is still more fun than many better games somehow. The animation and aesthetics at least help to make it a lot more engrossing and satisfying than other games. It wouldn't feel so good to hit someone with Makoto if she wasn't animated the way she was, etc.
Only Arcana Heart and some of the Samurai Spirits games gave me the same "Shit, this is great, let's play it a ton" feeling that 3S did. Most fightan games, even better designed/less unbalanced ones just don't. They just don't feel as good to play.
More like in the freezer and moonlighting in the other half of the Nasuverse.
Worst it's ever been for me, the new games are shit and I don't care about online. Still a few of us old farts at my locals who play fun games but obviously that's not going to last forever. Most have families and jobs that take up their time or they're just not autistic enough to keep showing up to play against the same group of dudes forever.
I do play new releases a bit but basically only French Bread is a company worth supporting these days. SNK still makes games that are at least ok but they've got other issues. I feel straight up ashamed of having given Bamco and Capcom any money at this point.
Play jojo
I've actually always thought that game looked cool, maybe I will try to get into it
I miss when fighting games had good mobility
same
HFTF is good despite its numerous issues.
Defensive play is so powerful and active (free pushblock, invulnerable rolls, free guard cancels) but are either too risky or suffer specific counters that stops the game from being too turtle focused. Unless you play kak fuck you
The game might see some resurgence on fightcade now with the part 7 anime coming out. Since its a free jojo game, you have tons of fresh faced newbies that have never touched a fg before coming in wanting to do timestop shenanigans.
Game is absolutely an unbalanced mess though full of bugs, but man do I love it
HFTF is good
its not
it is
Yeah, the retards got it wrong.
I wish the hitstop was toned down, watching it takes so long, along with the long combos
genre needs a good fighting game where you fight with melee weapons
Does this nigga not know?
Maybe next game, Soulcalibros.
Need to lick that body from nipple to cock
Soulcalibur and Samurai Shodown were both good (and the latter actually felt like you were fighting with weapons)
Unfortunately, they are now both dead, and nothing in the genre is like them anymore
Who could possibly step up?
weaponlord
Good thing literally dozens of other weapons based fighters existed before SC did lmao, dude's a retard for saying that shit
you mean soul calibur? i didn't get into that because seems the games don't have enough players
bad. we're in the late stages of Capcom convincing the other fg devs that their fans will cheer for the same shit Capcom's cult puts up with, this gen revolves around rushdown, toxic positivity has many communities in a chokehold, and the ArcSys leaks confirmed there's probably no DB FighterZ 2 on the horizon. we're only 2 seasons into most of the new games, but it already feels like they've been dragging their heels for 4 years–it's bad times.
remedial genre for rogs
What is the appeal of tiktok?
literally dozens
List 24 weapon based fighters made before Soul Calibur
none of them add anything to the genre and basically just double down on the dwindling player base
the devs do not like fighting games. they are assigned to work on them by an employer, for money. how old are you?
it has the biggest volume of "content" of all social media by far, and the algorithm is tailored to shit you like
someone in this thread could have a tiktok where you scroll and get all sorts of random fgc tidbits, combos, cammy cosplay ass twerking, twitter drama etc.
the short form content makes it easy to consume
I don't think anyone that makes a fighting game like this is doing it to make rent.
none of them add anything to the genre
Braindead or just hasn't played anything but MK, Tekken and SF?
city builders haven't added anything to the genre since Sim City, 4x games nothing since Civilization, FPS games nothing since Call of Duty 1, mecha games nothing since AC1, RPGs nothing since Baldur's Gate 2, etc, etc
This is how you sound
It's a morrigan/dimitri from darkstalkers situation.
Technically speaking, yeah Liu Kang is the MC. Scorpion is far far my recognizable.
play gio, she has the zoomies
add anything
You mean new mechanics? Many games do, but that's already a retard's thought process. New mechanics are fine, but they're not needed to justify newer fightans. Even actual children would understand this. Ask a little boy in the arcade in the 90s how to improve SF2 and his answer would be
More characters! More stages! More moves! Bigger and more fluidly animated sprites! Faster and with more elaborate and brutal effects! With more and better music!
And none of that "adds anything", it just improves what's already there, but that's already more than enough to justify making and playing a new fightan.
I wonder when LTG will realize he's a rog too.
I'm probably older than you : I started my journey with Street Fighter 2 Turbo, Killer Instinct & Mortal Kombat 2.
After enjoying Tekken 3 ,Melee Soul Calibur 2 with friends and brothers, I went through most of the best arcade fighters : KoF 98, Garou mark of the wolves, Waku waku 7, Real Bout Fatal Fury, Second Impact & Third Strike.
I even tried Ehrgeiz, Pocket Fighter, Last Blade & X-Men Children of Atom...
I think it started to change a lot with the over reliance on online and e-sports.
Couch PvP has such a different energy...
Yummy tummy
whiff fullscreen
get punished
bitch and her dog needs to chill the fuck out
There's Combo Devils, whenever that comes out.
he is a new age black though
Sol Fartguy
best MC
Lmao
str*ve is the poster boy of neutered mobility. even compared to xrd, which already made it a lot worse.
Too random, rushdown too strong and it's the only playstyle, too much damage, no skill-based defense just pure guessing and luck, too many cutscenes, too much downtime
but at least we're finally rid of stun for the most part
i think fighting games suck
AZURE BLAST AZURE BLAST BLAST AZURE BLAST
The downfall of fightans... back in my day, that wouldn't work even against the AI
what the fuck were they thinking
plays fighting games as his livelihood but continues to be bad at them
fathers a daughter but abandons the mother
has one of his girlfriends laugh in face over him not believing the name Daluan wasn't a black name
has had his shit kicked in front of a live audience, acts humble in real life, but talks shit on his videos
The only thing he's done intelligently is not getting into physical altercations at these events like Noel Brown did.
I found the problem, play a better fighting game.
Wouldn't it be fun if you actually had some cancel options and a bunch of moves as opposed to the usual 2 or 3?
Barbarian
Battle Blaze
Blandia
Dragoon Might
Dual Blades
Savage Reign
Martial Champion
Red Earth
Samurai Shodown
Samurai Shodown II
Samurai Shodown III
Samurai Shodown IV
Battle Arena Toshinden
WeaponLord
Suiko Enbu 15
Knuckle Heads
Time Killers
Criticom
Bushido Blade
Dynasty Warriors
Kizuna Encounter
Guilty Gear
The Last Blade
Last Bronx
:)
Good thing there's more than one weapon fighter besides SC
That was sick
Holy fuck...
Samsho is literally most down to earth fighthan ever, an well placed heavy slash can shave 50% of health and footisies are core more than anything.
Nobody plays, ever, then people proceed to complain about some anime fighter.
Who's ready for Ingrid?
I just miss fast-paced games like XX, V.Sav, and Melty with free-form chain combos/strings, fun movement tech, and solid defensive options/mechanics.
I'd give my left nut for that leak to be real. SF6 is in desperate need of a character like Alex.
Just because you don't have to do combos doesn't exactly make it a noob game
Anyways, even if it was, SNK killed with their incompetence, so it's over.
he's pretty coolguy
Are there any arena fighters with a 'scene'?
a bunch of moves
she has every move, bitch was offered three character kits just because she's in the anime
Still can't believe they removed his DI. God, Strive is so fucking lame.
what exactly do you mean by 'character like Alex'
Slash
Powah bawm
Elbow
Manon but not dogshit
Grappler players just want more grapplers. We all know Gief is gonna take a nerf in the update, so at least let them dream.
pudgy thighs sex
strange, i thought grapplerfags loved the "my character is dogshit lol" os
holy shit, anon btfo'd
make a self insert of all your favorite things and even voice him for half of the franchise's history
eventually make him into a stripped down cuck version of himself
What did Dykesuke mean by this?
Whichever one's the latest. Otherwise, for anime slop, Storm 4 or whatever is ironically the most "geared for competitive" because they specifically started balancing the game to play like that, but for actual arena shit, Gundam Vs has always been kino.
I still don't get the thought behind removing gatlings. How is that supposed to make anything easier?
When I tried it out, heavily restricting the gatlings just made me mash S because I didn't see the point of the other buttons.
I always preferred Sub-Zero anyway. He's just too cool.
I started playing 3s about 3 months ago now. It's a ton of fun, but ranked on fightcade is dogshit. Just endless Kens and Ryus who are boring as hell to fight. Some part of me wonders if 3s would be a better game if you just removed all the returning characters from the roster.
Lowers the skill ceiling, making it easier to reach
watching justin wong getting washed in power stone
funniest shit ever
WASHED????
Rare case of anon calling the other's bullshit and it works. Good stuff
I guess maybe they thought that since Gatlings were fast paced, removing them would "slow the pace down" and thus make it easier to process things.
I remember she was leaked before then, and thought it was just early elphelt concept
dunno what they were thinking with many other characters still to-be-butchered instead
wtf unika in melty??
That neck on Hyde looks abit off
This just makes me angrier that Unika's weapon isn't a pilebunker instead or a big gun instead of the lame ass fanfic sword it is now. How does Dykesuke just keep getting more lame?
unika's weapon is cool because it is a railgun motorcycle sword, I just don't like unika
KYAAAGHAAAGGHAGAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaa...
>This just makes me angrier that Unika's weapon isn't a pilebunker instead or a big gun instead of the lame ass fanfic sword it is now.
but it is?
It's a big fucking gun too, dumbass
Contrary to what this board believes for some reason, gatlings do NOT make things easier or better for shitters and people who are new. As shown with how games having specific combo system and button order structures always being more popular than anime fighters always were despite having links which anime fighter players on this site seemed to hate and think are more difficult for whatever reason. They want to get railroaded into things that do damage and make them feel good so a system that is, "do these SPECIFIC gatlings and button button special to knockdown" is considerably easier and more appealing when starting out just like it is in Tekken.
Dumbass
I feel like fighting games have the potential to die within my lifetime.
Soive still being popular somehow despite feeling like it's still in the beta
Slime Fighter 6
Kekken 8
Why is it cringe then you dumb NIGGERS
Let me guess, a Brazilian or Mexican made this with AI and thought he was tech savvy
Lan Di was in a fighting game?
MK is objectively better - and more influential - than GG or Tekken.
Pull up and catch the fade bro
Rivals 2 if you play platfightan
I hate living in a society where pixel art is seen as 'primitive' or 'antiquated', no matter the resolution of execution.
I don't know if better but it sure was influential.
I wish the games were good because a modern violent fightan sounds like a good time.
(You) problem bro the way she swings that thing with reckless abandon like her grandpa then starts throwing the most obnoxious projectiles like her grandma is sick.
Where were you when you found out that Fight Night has the best blocking mechanics in any fighting game ever?
blocks mitigate damage
the more you block, the less it mitigates and it goes from 100% damage prevention to some chip damage
if you continue to block the chip damage multiplier increases with each hit, to the point blocking is useless
actually DODGING restores your block
still cant believe these devs convinced riot that making bbtag 2 would be a good idea
Devs are openly hostile towards the playerbase, thanks to Harada popularizing it. They add shitty mechanics that ruin the core gameplay, on purpose, and respond with either nothing or passive-aggressive hostility like the granblue director and devs wearing 66L shirts, a mechanic people fucking hate. Fighting games deserve to fade into obscurity.
Was.
Devs aren't openly hostile and passive aggressive that's literally just the retards at Tekken. It is however unfortunate seeing the granblue guys decide to follow harada's footsteps in retardation with the 66L shirts and refusal to actually do something significant about it.
is this guy cheating?
No sales numbers or whatever
Not even number of players, they are completely screwed.
To be honest that's kinda based Devs shit in pro players mouth and they have to take it or go flip burgers for a living
No, he's just playing against someone who doesn't know how to fightan.
nah he's just outgorilla'ing the gorilla
But anons on Anon Babble always say that fightans suck because devs pander to pro players...
No they pander to scrubs but pro players still win and that's why devs shit in pro players mouth like harada and Murray openly stated they are sick of seeing the same pros over and over
The Tekken devs shat in everyone's mouth you fucking idiot season 2 was so bad it reached an all time low and Tekken 8% happened because of how shit it was to everyone, casuals included.
and they have to take it or go flip burgers for a living
You think Granblue players are doing it for the money, nigga?
If he gets into a physical fight because of fighting games then he's every bit of a rog he despises.
Niggers act hard but can’t fight irl so they stick to social media to talk shit about whitey in the hopes of a crumb of white pussy cuz they women don’t want them no mo cuz they aren’t men
What in the FUCK are you talking about?
And yet they are still playing the fucking game
only 4k players online now
four thousand active individuals playing your game is somehow a bad thing
How many are playing City, by the way?
don't worry bros... Costume 3 is coming...... for Terry, Bison, Mai, and Elena.........
Not in shillbot
Oh no
I'm a hypercasual who buys fighting games, clears the story/arcade mode then never plays them again. I want to finally start getting gud and maybe getting into online/offline multiplayer
Which game should I pick to learn?
Not pictured: MELTY BLOOD TYPE LUMINA (PS5). Oh, and Smash Ultimate I guess.
Do you want to learn something with a (somewhat) active niche fanbase, an actually active game, or a dead game?
I don't play over hyped MUGEN.
I like SF6 but some throws take way too long when you get hit by them. Getting throw looped by Mai feels is awful because it takes so long. Thank god no one plays Dhalsim so I don't have to tank his noogie which takes even longer.
The entire fanbase and culture was co-opted by corporate censorship and troons
You own all of these games, so surely you should learn whatever you think feels the most fun to play
If you want to play offline then you'd have to look around and see what people near you locally play
How dead are the "dead games"? Literally impossible to get a match online?
Basically anything that lets me learn the basics well would be nice.
I might eventually gravitate towards Strive or SF6 since there are monthly offline tournaments at my workplace.
It is, these games used to have like few hundered thousand players in Arcades everynight at it's peak.
Even the last title had tripple that player count and nobody had to suffer with online matching.
They're called "dead" for a reason. You'd have to find matches through discord. Surprisingly, not all of them are anime fighters.
If by "basic" you mean "grasping the basic senses of fighting games as a whole", Under Night has a pretty indepth tutorial that covers a lot of fighting game scenarios and concepts. You can start there. I'm not saying to learn Uni but use the tutorial. If you like how the game plays during that then go ahead, but start small. Just remember: there's no better teacher than actually playing the game after you learn all that info. And it can be a lot to take in so don't be ashamed to take a break if you feel like it.
in arcades
Okay boomer. You know arcades are dead, right?
my friend, a dumbass sub 90 IQ mentally ill retard, cannot do gatlings because "I have 500ms reaction time, how am I supposed to know if I'm going to hit you or not to continue my combo?" to which I of course say "just press the buttons in sequence dumbass" and then he just stares at me. I tell him "go into training mode and press the buttons in order" so he goes into training mode, presses the buttons either way too early or way too late and then after 2 minutes of failing says "I'm bored, I don't like training mode, let's just fight each other"
SF6
Very fast to play, you can just pick modern, mash like a gorilla and yolo DI to get to plat/diamond
You can also take it a little more seriously with classic controls and not have to worry too much about extreme tech, the bulk of opening up people is just strike/throw/shimmy
Not much character variety, low tier characters are dreadful to play
Very good online quality, you get matches quickly at any time and they're rarely laggy
GGST
A shit ton of variety in character archetypes and probably some of the broadest range of skill requirement
You can pick Sol and learn to unga the bunga in a week, you can also pick Zato, HC or Asuka and never be done learning these characters
Execution varies, gatlings make basic stuff very easy but you still have links and slightly difficult stuff like fast RCs
Balance is weird, top tiers are too strong but the rest of the cast is fair
Online is poopy, the lobby system is bad, match quality is sometimes dodgy, however the game has still a lot of players including a lot of newbies/scrubs
MBAACC
Batshit insane, imbalanced as hell, very small playerbase
However the character variety is great, and the skill ceiling is absurd
Uni2
Anime bullshit if you wanted less batshit insane air dashing, but still expect knowledge checks and weird shit
Character variety is great, the game also rewards blocking and it has variable recovery
Combos get pretty long and can lead into crazy setups
Probably has the best tutorials
Few players, but you can still get matches
Guilty Gear
GG is not a weapon fighter at all though.
Bots have unironically taken over here, now you can't even tell what is or isn't a schizo post.
which makes reveals like Fakuram all the more facepalming
Tekken 7 dlc line up was so good in Bamco's eyes they decided to just do it again. Lidia being the last dlc of 7 and first of 8 is hilarious.
Granblue has been getting colder and more obscure as time passes.
Don't worry, bro, they're adding full autocombos. This will surely restore the playerbase and finally get those retarded, incompetent casuals in.
worst fg
makes more money than all the rest combined
Nta but can you break down the system mechanics?
casuals love combo videos
Based af and thank you for reminding me of kizuna. Haven't played in like 8 years but I'm going to check that on fightcade
Marvel style tag fighter
Only 10 characters at launch
Skullgirls had the excuse of being a small indie team unironically. What's theirs?
all modern fighting games are dumbed down rock paper scissors simulators for retards
imbalanced as hell
as bullshit as the top tiers are, the system mechanics are strong enough to let mid tiers dunk on top tiers.
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Combo videos are an artform
making a game with a combo system open enough to make combo videos like this is an artform
Based +R appreciator
play skullgirls
I miss P4A. Kusoge but the incredibly fun kind and the visuals are still among the best in the genre. Some of the best work the Blazblue team ever did imo.
play kusoge that was censored by troons
more strict combo routing is one of the big downfalls of Strive
there are very few characters that have it
youre in a thread talking about +r and mbaacc, we like kusoge here, skullgirls is still one of the best fighting games ever made and the devs all quit anyways.
Thanks Anon Babbleros. I haven’t done UNI’s tutorial yet, so I’ll start there and give Strive/SF6 a try later.
uni's tutorial is genuinely amazing, it even teaches you about option selects.
I haven't played a single fighting game released after gen 7
I stopped playing it when anons stopped making lobbies for it, so like 5+ years ago
i kinda want to start hosting lobbies on the weekends like the unibros do but that is a genuine commitment
If you're gay, sure.
They are less good than they were in the 90s/2000s but still good enough for me to enjoy. This will probably be the last gen I play them though, all series are getting a little TOO streamlined, retardedly gorilla aggressive, Americanized or a combination of all 3
SF6 is already more than I can handle. Holy FUCK that game is so fucking ugly.
I don't know the details enough to 'break it down' but from gameplay shown, it has 8-way dashes, some kind of air dash on-hit cancelling, super jumps, wall jumps, moonwalking, and some characters have a vertical wall run.
so any cool or interesting developments from the strive leaks or is everyone too lazy
No one gives a shit enough about the game to look any deeper
Strive
cool
Literally every character has a weapon thoughbeit except jam
God I hate Strivers
This is not +R though
They were using Xrd character's as models to test new shit like strive slayer and venom, It had some Lucy moves, she had a hack glitch effect that did nothing since it wasn't complete in that dev build and the old dev builds. That's it and people just kinda blew it out of proportion. Also the jam concept shit was fake.
I was thinking someone would mod in something cool by now, like a entirely new game or something
Bet Lucy's hacks will fuck with your controls like the status effects in P4A or something.
I like the idea of Lucy's hacking being on (you) the opposing player rather than the opposing character. Would make more sense since no one in GG are cyborgs strangely enough.
MK is some fucking heinously cursed shit
introduce new big tiddy waifu in new game generation
instantly give her bad end
has awful costume change and even shittier ending in sequel
not even in MK9
corpse is a cameo in the shitty (((nu MK))) reboot
demoted to a washboard NPC in MKX
brought back in (((MK:1))) just for her character to get literally KORRA'D like toph in LoK and is turned into police chief who is a doormat for everyone else
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fucking heinous diabolical level shit
even Juri han still gets to be the hottest capcom character in the ugliest "modern audience" streetfighter game
They've been modding strive like that since release slowpoke you don't need source code for that. Adding shit like new moves, Goku, playable ragna(forma 2d) and a bunch of other shit.
strive mindbroke dozens
Is. MK still gets movies, the other two don’t.
I just realized all 6 are japanese and only mk is western.
You realize this now? America has been a wasteland for fighting game development.
You could have counted Labzero back then but looking at them now? lmao
I guess Killer Instinct is a thing
MK is still the only fighting game that feels good. Like it actually “feels” like you hit someone, I hate how Japanese fighting games have infinite combos with no sensation of power behind their blows. I’m not sure if that’s due to the poor sound design they all have or what. Like, Tekken’s block effects sound exactly like Gran Turismo 5’s impact sounds: like an empty box being through down the basement steps. It’s awful.
I hate how all anime fighters have one single frozen frame for a character when they’re hit. It just looks so bad, so cheap, so wimpy. I wish more games aped MK9’s damage system.
Tournament scene is trying to hold it together but there's little they can do when the quality of new games available is so bad.
The sprites in P4U are easily the best ArcSys have ever done. They look so much nicer than BB or GG.
gatling and reverse gatling are so goddamn goated. i'm about to quietly commission the guy behind Granblue Chaos to update it for the new characters cause he's exclusively worked on Granblue Harmony for like a year now but i still prefer Chaos.
It's a bit hard to see it from a beginner's perspective because I wasn't a beginner when I played Strive, but I imagine it did help people overall. Sometimes when people are arguing gatlings are easier they say that it was easier because you can just mash out P>K>S>HS, but combo and pressure routes were rarely actually like that in GG before even if you could gatling buttons like that. The way Strive is railroads you into something that's more effective, it may ask a new player to have the knowledge that the best option they have to gatling off of 2K is 2D, but I imagine they'll quickly realize the value of 2D and a hard knockdown as a result, which in turn makes it easier to understand the rest of the game. The same could be said of other gatling routes where they're generally pretty assured to be pretty effective in some way or another.
Li Mei can arrest me any time she wants
why are we getting this years out from the anime
There's a season 2 coming soon to coincide with it supposedly
Because that's how licensing works anon. Not to mention they were probably already working on other characters long before the anime released and blew up. Don't know why you find this strange, did you not see all the damn crossover 2B has been in when there hasn't been a new Nier game in 8yrs.
i don't know how they're gonna do that unless it's going to be a story about different characters who just coincidentally work with Lucy. i wouldn't mind another Cyberpunk anime, but i kinda wish they would leave the Edgerunners narrative alone.
It's weird how Anon Babble has been doom posting about fighting games for 20 years at this point.
story about different characters
It is, we don't even know if Lucy is in, It's also being made by netflix anime, not Trigger.
Because Lucy is hot, the guys at arcsys think she's hot and because she is an anime character who has short hair and is hot like I-no and every other short haired GG girl that arcsys has a liking towards.
Guys a literal god an antagonist of the series now.
it's not being made by Trigger
RIP, i take it all back, into the garbage it goes.
I just want to keep reminding you people that fighting games aren't a genre. It's just Street Fighter and a bunch of barely different others that will always be overlooked for Street Fighter as players constantly moan about the 5% differences.
There is Street Fighter and then there are action games like Soulcalibur. A failure to deliver action game content is dooming your project to be overlooked.
yeah, we should start calling them sf2-likes
yes
guilty queer front and center
Yuck.
Does anyone play this shit on steam? Highly doubt it but I'm just bored
Does anyone have the source of the slap clip?
not made by trigger
it's over
just wait for injustice 3
I do
missing the music
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