She is a selfish brat.
She is a selfish brat
Still the best ending.
she lost
everyone under her control like a low budget Kim Yong Un
the ending is black and white = you're either on her site or you get erased
literally enslaved Verso
lost in her own little escapism dreamworld
Versos ending was the better one.
She wanted Verso. Sexually
That is her brother
there is something wrong with this brat
i want her to spit in my mouth, step on my penis and call me a pathetic slut
She'll grow up in the real world. Eventually.
Are the people like Lune, Sciel, and Gustave also meat puppets or are they just totally cool with Verso being forced to play piano for eternity?
There are signs that they're just puppets. Sciel smiles at first and then start to look sad. Plus the light in her eyes fades. Also remember that everyone got gommaged at some point and that they're just repainted versions by Maelle.
Anon, it's obviously up to your interpretation.
No, but she still kept lusting after the Big Gustave Cock even after his death
There's not a single instance in the game where she's shown really caring for Painted Verso, meanwhile there's multiple instances of her missing Gustave, including one that has Verso grunting in annoyance right after she directly states she misses Gustave (and not Verso)
no side quest so you can bring back Gustav
brings back Luna and Sciel in a cutscene
Fucking lost potential
Is there a narrative reason why they couldn't bring Gustave back?
Maelle ending all the way, because Dessende family are shitty people completely unworthy of the demiurge power that they possess, and if devs wanted me to give a single fuck about them, they have failed.
Can't have two alpha males leading a group of women and a dog. That's a recipe for disaster.
None that I've seen yet. Literally just managed to forget about him the moment Alicia regained her memories I guess.
Using chroma gives you power in the canvas. Painted creatures are also made of chroma. When something is gommaged its chroma is released and gradually snatched up by the one that gommaged it. Gustave was gommaged by painted renoir, a creation of Aline, his chroma was taken back by Aline. Sciel and Lune's chroma was snatched up by Alicia shortly after they were gommaged, so she had the girls' raw material which she could reshape back into them.
aliciafags still 100% motivated by spite
Maelle ending
Huh? Did you unlock a secret third ending? The choice were between painted Verso and Alicia.
Not even good enough to paint her own escapist fantasy
A failure to the very end.
Yes. He got killed way before she remembered she was a painter and his chroma absorbed by Aline/Renoir. She grabbed lune and sciel literally as their essence was starting to get sucked up by Renoir, too late to do that for Gustave.
Most people seem to miss where they explicitly explain how the turning to chroma when you die/tug of war between aline and Renoir over it works
People die when they are killed, usually.
Based. Judgement through fire.
Wasn't Clea also involved in all this? Couldn't they have easily added a way to get Gustave back using her? I know you can fight her as a boss in a side area, so why not give a reward for it?
Hell even Guatave's skill tree is mostly locked out before he dies. Seems they wanted to bring him back somehow later
boss Clea
that's the fake/painted Clea made by Aline. Real Clea painted over her and turned her into an enslaved nevron factory. As soon as she has a modicum of free will returned she an heroes. Real Clea has no interest in resurrecting a painted person - she designed nevrons to brutally murder them.
Gustave's skill tree
Literally just to trick you, those sneaky french.
She is a selfish brat.
Says anon, as he used to scream at his parents for not letting him stay locked inside all day playing video games.
or are they just totally cool with Verso being forced to play piano for eternity?
Why would they care, his final act was attempting to erase them all. He got off lightly.
is it just me or this bitch looks like Josh Sawyer
Is that an NBA player
no, a game developer
spite
More like sheer, raw NOT MY PROBLEM.
Game makes you care about inhabitants of the painting. It doesn't make you care about fags that made it and lately inflicted so much misery on it.
Alicia? Haha alaicia goes boom because...well just because
NOOO VERSO DONT DESTROY MY MATRIX THIS IS NOT FUNNY ANYMORE
Sorry anon, they're gone! At least you still have Lune and Sciel though.
Is that supposed to be an argument for doing something bad to Renoir? Because it definitely is. I think having to see his entire family going to shit would do. He is an evil and unworthy demiurge, he deserves only destruction.
back to just spite
It's okay, Alicia just needs to take a break! She can be reasonable enough to do that, right?
Alicia is fucked either way
Le addicted to being in canvas
vs
Addicted to actual opioids to not off herself from constant pain
At least this way she has two eyes and can speak
Teen MILF 2: The Reckoning
Did nothing wrong, everyone else are trash.
play the piano, cuck
kek
Maelle's is the happier ending, but not as good. I liked seeing Gustave back
Verso's is sadder but the correct choice to make.
I think it's because he didn't get gommaged
Based, Versofags be seething
i love my brother Verso and i feel so guilty about his death
im gonna keep using his soul as battery for my barbie dollhouse world tho
Dessende family are shitty people completely unworthy of the demiurge power that they possess
yes, including Maelle, so she should be kicked out of the canvas
He is a lying bitch.
kills his father
drives his sister to suicide
kills his every lover
kills his every friend
genocides entire world
all that to get what he personally wants
nooo he is just misunderstood he is a good guy deep down! I can fix him!!
It finally clicked with me. Versotards are all women. Only women would give backstabbing traitorous liar (who happens to be attractive) a pass.
you MUST interpret my ending very favorably
you MUST interpret the other ending very unfavorably
no white deminuer
missed opportunity
Illiterate retard please. Severe burns like these hurt for the remainder of one's life. Early 20th century medicine didn't knew strong painkillers which weren't opium-based. She'll be guzzling morphine like there's no tomorrow.
youtu.be
où est passé le gros JDG?
Malicia
lmao, that's perfect.
mfw hearing real Verso screaming and burning to death
Me personally I just picked the ending that I found the most interesting not caring about whether it was happier or better or whatever one day your pre-frontal cortex will fully develop as well
and that one is the Verso ending, good choice anonymous!
French media = IM LE SAD
Trash nation
Indian media = I eat the poo
You're a disgusting projecting troon.
Would you kill yourself and your loved ones to help poor little Verso to not be sad? Because if you don't you're just as "selfish" as everybody else who's listening to him play the piano.
My waifu used escapism to cope with her sad worthless reality, just like me!
quite sad tee bee cue aitch
She didn't have his chroma. She is not re-creating them, she is turning their chroma back into its human shape.
Maelle's ending is a lot more interesting narratively though. Verso's is a natural end, but Maelle's is an infinite nightmare, at least for whatever is left of Verso and Sciel, propelling her towards her own demise.
The main reason is to not wipe out an entire civilization just because one painted Dessendre is sad and another Dessendre wants to fix things, but won't allow any way of fixing things that isn't exactly his way.
She needs to stay in there to protect it,.
an entire civilization
You mean Lune and Sciel? By the time of your choice, the rest of their civilization is already gone.
main reason
Alicia's main reason is Verso.
Verso's ending is very clean. Like France and Germany kept fighting each other, so we wiped out the french. Peace.
I've intentionally wrote shitty ambiguous endings so that retards on the internet discuss them for all eternity and give my game more exposure
What a fag.
t. mad that his preferred ending wasn't happy enough
Don't be a simpleton like that. There is a lot more to it than one single thing.
By the time of your choice, the rest of their civilization is already gone.
She can recover people who were gommaged.
It only started in 19th century, after one of the most egregious acts of self-harm in history of human species. Needless to say all their "friends" who won bigly from said act of self-harm helped them tremendously with establishing that literary tradition.
Just because her choice inadvertently leads to the canvas being spared, doesn't mean that she wasn't making a entirely selfish choice that was because she wanted to escape her reality.
Or did you miss the entire ending dialogue with verso?
If that's how (You) interpreted what you were presented with, anon.
Yes, I'd kill 100,000,000 people to save my mother, how could you guess?
Are you retarded?
a bunch of identically dressed clones in and outside of the opera house, which itself is the only structure restored in the still ruined city
I feel I have plenty of reason to doubt Alicia has the will and/or skill to bring them back, anon, but you're free to interpret it in another way.
Those "people" may as well be filler NPCs. The only people she truly cares about are those she is sitting with.
Gustave himself isn't even the real Gustave, just an idealized copy of hers. She even gave him some of her fathers mannerism (the way he closes his right eye, the same way Renoir did).
She wanted Verso. Sexually
Given how Maelle looked at, or more accurately, lusted after him in act 3, Verso should've dicked her down. A little correction of her beloved brother certainly would've made her listen.
How do read exactly the words he said and come up with "ambiguous so he gets free exposure".
He spelled it out for you it's a prompt for the player themselves to reflect.
The part about no one agreeing is because the endings will reflect your own values and principles. If you have an inspiration to then argue about it the prompt did it's job, not to gain the game more players but to allow you to yourself.
That's art idiot.
Real Verso sacrificed himself for his little sister, to let her slowly die is against his nature.
real Verso gives his life to protect Alicia
Maelle never feels at home in Lumiere, has only negatives to say about it before leaving on a suicide mission many years before her gommage
Alicia argues about Lumiere with her father, and when called out by painted Verso admits she was lying
Admits to him she just wants to live the life that was stolen from "us" abandoning any earlier pretext of seeing painted Verso as different from real Verso
Fixes up the opera house to watch her puppet fake brother play Piano in front of a crowd of identical mannequins with her old friends as set dressing
Her ending is an all-around a tragedy.
Also remember that everyone got gommaged at some point and that they're just repainted versions by Maelle.
they were painted to begin with so i don't particularly see a big deal with this
Her ending is an all-around a tragedy.
There are upsides though
Verso suffers
Dessende family is punished for their acts and potentially eliminated for good
oh no a rich aristocrat
ahh this explains a lot
Dessende family is punished for their acts and potentially eliminated for good
The only one getting eliminated here is Alicia because she is too retarded to just leave the canvas and come back.
but Renoir will destroy it
Bullshit, he chose to trust her, if she leaves of her own free will, he has no reason to destroy it.
There's not a single instance in the game where she's shown really caring for Painted Verso
you are retarded. what percent of people in these threads have actually played the game?
Could Gustave reason with Renoir?
What are the best weapons for Sciel and Monoco?
aliciafags seem to be almost entirely composed of people seething at imaginary representations of things they lack
renoir is a father trying to protect his child, this hurts me!
the dessendres have moeny, this hurts me!
verso has a big dick and has sex. this hurts me!
Precisely, all Alicia has to do is pop out, or even ask Renoir to help her restore Lumiere and then go out together to convince Aline to stay out, but she admits to verso she'll stay in the canvas until the day she dies.
It's not Renoir who needs convincing, but Alicia.
Bullshit, he chose to trust her
Why do you think the canvas world gets nuked the moment Alicia is evicted from it retard bro? He stands right next to it with a torch waiting for that very moment.
Renoir's problem is his wife refusing to leave the painting like a junkie. She's the one who needs convincing.
Wife and daughter, tragically.
Why do you think the canvas world gets nuked the moment Alicia is evicted from it retard bro?
Nice head cannon, if that were true, we would have seen Lune die too.
The reason everyone died is because they stepped into the arena with Verso's soul, Alicia says as much.
I feel like Gustave could have talked to her. He's basically her replacement Verso/Renoir since he was both like a brother and father to her.
Alicia didn't really care about gustave.
Did you let gustave die?
Yeah lol
our bond is now unbreakable.
Maelle did but she's gone.
Replay this section
Didn't notice you hear Verso as he's burning
Damn, that hilarious
Only the mom deserves to be punished, since she ruined the one scrap of Verso they had left due to her woman moment.
that hilarious
what is maelle's face paint supposed to represent at the very end???
also how come no one in the family seems to care that maelle is stuck living another life? Verso said he went a few times to check on her but why couldn't they just wake her up?
qrd?
Is Renoir tard wrangling Aline in Maelle's ending?
maelle's
It's alicia's face and it represents she's succumbing to the same madness as her mother
no one seems to care
Time passes really slowly in the canvas. Renoir WANTED to believe alicia's lies that she'd come out after a while. He'll go in and yeet her out once he can no longer deny the truth that she's hopelessly addicted.
Verso
Verso isn't a painter and couldn't easily gommage her out, and even if he could, Renoir would've popped her back in, like he did when painted Renoir booted her out.
You could interpret that as her using too much chroma and starting to die.
Or you could say that she is using her painter powers to force Verso to play the piano.
Most likely, it's both.
FranFran was the true victim of the story.
Just for this I will only coom to Clea if she's being abused.
The only one getting eliminated here is Alicia
After which Renoir will hopefully drink himself to death or suckstart a shotgun, and Clea will get iced by Writers in absence of sufficient backup.
Those people are guilty of great evil, and deserve more suffering that can realistically be inflicted on them by any method. That is on assumption that inhabitants of the canvas are self-aware entities that can experience the reality, however that assumption is obligatory for any discussion of the story, because without it it turns into a meaningless shitpost.
Is that why he is such a cunt, because clea made him?
Renoir would've popped her back in, like he did when painted Renoir booted her out.
wait what? Man there's so much I missed about the story. But I meant more like, while she was growing up in the canvas and in lumiere, how come no one even attempted to wake Maelle/R.Alice up?
Is the canvas fucked either way? We know that time outside the painting seems to move much faster then inside, and Maelle is only just starting to show signs of her degrading (assuming that's what it is and not her forcing Verso to use the piano) so she's probably got a while.
But I can't imagine Renoir not eventually barging back in when she least expects it and dragging her out. If Clea is over her revenge boner she'd probably help.
would people care about her if she was an uggo?
Member by member:
Aline is the first in the canvas. Paints lumiere to live with a fake family where she can pretend verso is alive. Goes insane
Renoir is the second in. Fractures the canvas when he tries to erase Aline's creations and pull her out, fails because she's a stronger painter
Clea pop in to fuck with a few creations and paint nevrons to murder Lumierens and stop their chroma from going back to Aline
Alicia, whom Clea doesn't give a fuck about, is instructed to go in and see if the can help Renoir. Alicia is IMMEDIATELY painted over by Aline into Maelle. At stone wave cliffs, painted Renoir boots Maelle out of the painting. Renoir puts her back in to continue helping him.
Aline and Renoir are trapped battling each other in the canvas. Aline is barely aware of her and Renoir doesn't want her out yet. Clea doesn't give a fuck.
Is the canvas fucked either way?
Yes, Aline should never have painted sentient humans into it.
Versos ending isn’t real. It’s just one final lie he tells himself
the canvas would be fine if Maelle would just leave after beating Renoir, but I don't think there's anything Renoir can do to get her out as she's already beaten him once when he had control of basically all the chroma in the painting. Real Clea might have a better chance but at the point of Maelle's ending she has all the chroma, which no doubt makes Maelle even more dangerous than she was before.
Esquie and Francois seem to basically be Verso and Clea's imaginary friends brought to life in the canvas.
>a bunch of identically dressed clones
Prologue had dozens of copypasted people.
which itself is the only structure restored in the still ruined city
The city is in the same state as it was in prologue.
I feel I have plenty of reason to doubt Alicia has the will and/or skill to bring them back
Would be great if you provided any.
You are grasping at straws and contradict what game tells you to fit your headcanon.
Aline will return too there's no way she gives up as long as the canvas exists, but here's the thing, you're not meant to overthink the endings, it's just a video game, you'll ruin the illusion if you try to overanalyze every little thing
people here don't seem to care about Lune at all and she's the hottest one
This is the true based and correct interpretation, but pussies gonna seethe and cry about muh sims/minecraft/whatever helps them cope
You'd just end up with expedition 33 two, electric bugaloo
She'll refuse to leave, become the new paintress, like her mother, while renoir attempts to kick her out.
And lumier gets to suffer yet again. Hooray for woman emotions.
this has to be it, the final cope from aliciafags
She's the most unfortunate victim of all.
why are retards so set into the
destroy le demiurge famili
when they arent the only Painters, without even taking into account Writers and who knows what else
the canvas would be fine if Maelle would just leave after beating Renoir
In verso ending that's exactly what happens, and then the canvas is destroyed. Why do you think it was destroyed retardo?
I don't think there's anything Renoir can do to get her out as she's already beaten him once
With Aline. They could not defeat him without Aline.
All the Chroma
Aline had all the Chroma too, and was a BETTER painter than Renoir, and Renoir was still able to fracture the world.
Simon and pClea got shafted by rClea hard. The lyrics for Simon phase 2 are pretty good.
it really feels like it's only one guy posting that
gee why don't people care about something that wasn't in the game even for a single second
Nigga you retarded
AND A MURDERER
Is this how girls look without clothes?
Huh, I had no idea
In verso ending that's exactly what happens
wrong, Maelle is forced out by painted Verso who then an heros the entire thing to prevent her from returning. If she listened to him the canvas would likely have survived, even if painted Verso erased just himself
Maellebros won, feels good to be on the right side of history
Why do you think it was destroyed retardo?
Because painted Verso allows real Verso's babby soul the chance to stop maintaining the canvas, we are explicitly shown this.
And when exactly did he become someone capable of erasing the canvas? No offense but this looks way too much like your headcanon. In reality, Renoir torched it.
Why do you think it was destroyed retardo?
Because .. Versos soul stops painting and they even throw it in your face for retards like you by being around his grave while illusion of the party waves goodbye to Maelle?
No one cares she killed her brother, what a stupid bitch.
When he convinced versos soul to stop painting, did you miss the entire fucking ending?
man actively making things up accuses others of headcanon-ing
lol
The canvas is fucked either way because Aline and Maelle literally want to die in it as long as it exists so Renoir will obviously want to prevent that from happening.
Nigga...
What was Verso's plan initially? He only goes to destroy the canvas himself because he realizes Maelle has no intention of leaving. What was he going to do prior to that, assuming Maelle was willing to leave and Renoir didn't destroy it himself? Just neck himself after?
NOOOOOOOOOOO ALL THOSE WORLDS ARE BEING DESTROYED YOU'RE GUILTY OF GENOCIDE STOOOOOOOOOOOOP
That's paper, not a magic canvas doofus
What's a good weapon for Sciel? Just after Old Lumiere.
What was he going to do prior to that, assuming Maelle was willing to leave and Renoir didn't destroy it himself?
Depends on what they were going to do with the canvas if they didn't destroy it. The assumption would be one of them would restore it, and Verso would be either gommaged like the rest of his family or at the very least had his immortality removed so he can live a normal life in a restored world.
Or just bang Sciel and Lune for the rest of eternity like a new Adam/Eve/Lilith until they repopulate the world.
Verso discovered the truth, wants to reach Aline and have her bring back the dead lumierenes so they can live freely
travels with a lot of expeditions, learns more and more, gets blackpilled
sees how insane Aline is, his goal gradually shifts to freeing her from the canvas
helps E33 do so even knowing Renoir will gommage everyone afterwards.
Alicia resists, Verso decides to help her because he feels a connection to her after their shared struggle and because he's based on Verso who loves her
assists her in stopping Renoir, but falters again when he sees Aline suffering and realizes she won't be able to stay away from the canvas
clocks Alicia lying to Renoir so she can stay in the canvas and becomes fully resolved to pull the plug entirely
Benchon
Why is she so pretty bros?
How many of the people who call Maelle selfish would want to die to help out the painter family with their grief issues? Asking for a friend.
aliciafags
having friends
I was running Luck/Agility on everyone, so at that point I think I was using the weapon you get from the night sanctuary.
Far as I can tell, she doesn't have a great one. In general, her mechanics take too long to set up and give too little payoff. Lune is similar in that regard. Frenchman/Maelle/Monoco all day every day.
Technically it's not incest if it's your painted "brother" right? In the same way you didn't rape your sister if you fap to rule 34 of her
I hate speedreaders so much
He's a cunt because she abandoned him, he and Clea used to go on the same kind of adventures in the canvas that Verso and Esquie did but she's grown up and cast him aside as a child's toy she's not interested in anymore. The time distortion in the canvas means that maybe 10 or so years have passed in real life since then, but Esquie says it's been centuries in the painting, so Francois has been seething and pouting by himself in that cave for hundreds of years
The whole marking thing is good for bosses I'd imagine but against normal dudes it's too much set up.
Corpeso + Cheater Verso and Maelle with that skills that does more damage per burn are crazy
And I guess Monoco is there too
Foretell is easy: use sun skill, then use moon skill, repeat. It's probably easier to optimize than Maelle's constant stance dancing that you have to figure out before you start getting weapons that make it easier (and act 3). Sure she falls off in act 3 but so does everyone that isn't Maelle. Even Verso is at his best as Maelle support.
you get the sword that starts you in purple stance basically immediately though in the gestral village. that and the move that doesn't take you out of purple stance means you'll be in that shit basically the entire game
Only if you put Maelle in the arena, otherwise you need to wait till you're strong enough for Golgra
Lune was gagging for Verso's cock
Well I mean who else are you going to put in, Gustave, who is the worst combatant in the game, or Lune, the support mage? I played blind and put Maelle in because it was a no brainer really
yeah, humans are inherently an emotional bunch, not a logical one, it's why you can predict the fall of civilization with relative certainty.
I was playing on hard and put Gustave in, he was fine.
Was pissed when someone told me about that sword though.
Why is Crispy Alicia so low?
In whatever this poll is about?
That early in the game there's not going to be that much of a difference between them. Lune has mostly attack magic that also debuffs so I saw her used most in blind playthroughs.
I would genuinely do this for anyone in my family.
I'd feel like a horrible piece of shit after, but I'd let plenty of literal who's die for the one's I care for.
Lune looks best with the half ponytail.
absolute psychopath who will never procreate
Yes, so I'll ensure the rest of my family lives to do so instead.
And now you know why I switched to 100 Line... which has far too many options. Just too many. HOLY FUCK I WANT TO FINISH THIS GAME AND GET ON WITH MY LIFE PLEASE.
Y-Y-You care about those you're close to more then someone you don't!? PSYCHO!
I'll probably move onto Labyrinth of the Demon King next. Or Lies of P.
Now I will play your game.
Wasn't sold until I saw the blood and dirt stays. Getting Illbleed vibes.
I'm going back to factorio and 9sols. I was hoping nightreign would be good.. it aint.
dude why are you so obsessed with these games? they are mid.
play NG+ or the new doom
it's brave of them to not make either ending really that happy.
i just didn't expect that i'd grow to dislike as many characters as i did.
anyways, damn Clea is huge
Clea isn't that big, it's just that Alicia/Maelle is almost comically smol.
She's a big girl
Calls games mid
Shills the nu Doom
Maelle ending is for leftists
So does she just wear that 24/7 even when it’s not appropriate because Verso designed it?
She's a goddess, they tend to be tall.
makes sense that right wingers would pick an end fit for faggots
That's just being a normal human. Ingroup preference is the most natural thing on earth and no group is more in than your family.
Refugees welcome, diversity is our strength!
Right wingers choose truth
Left wingers choose lie
You will never be a woman
The tranny delusion option.
Why is there stuff like dead energy 1 and 2? It says they do the same thing, and they don't stack.
Everything stacks.
He had been dead for too long.
Alicia is fucked either way
She's only fucked in that she's so high on paint fumes that her brain went smooth.
You're not my brother
I want to live our lifetime that was stolen from us brother!
I tried both dead energies and wasn't getting +6 AP for each hit
Dead Energy gives AP on kill. And the char with them has to be the one to kill them.
Hag
Fuck me I'm an idiot, I'm mixing it up with the one that gives you AP when you hit someone with your base attack. Sorry anon.
She might recover (mentally) outside of the canvas. She might not, but she might. In the canvas, she's toast.
tfw oldest woman in the canvas
younger than me
That's Energising Attack, it also stacks.
yeah thats usually how hags work.
Is there somewhere to grind Colours of Lumina?
Renoirs Drafts. Everything there has a high chance of dropping Colors of Lumina.
clair obscur boss in the monolith or
or the chromatic danseur in old lumiere, it'll summon ads forever and you can keep killing them.
Why is there no Clea S&M porn yet?
Because she's a fake dom and ultimately a coward
Dithered around trying to recruit verso, repainting simon and clea, painting nevrons
should've just bashed through the barrier and dragged out the weakened Aline
Malicia
she's a fake dom
She tied up fake-Clea and Simon pretty good though
She was also the only person keeping things going in the real world. Considering Alicia had healed enough to be out of the hospital, Aline and Renoir's stalemate probably lasted a few months in real world time.
And still knelt out of respect to Mommy Aline's superior painting.
my mom alone is worth the entire world population
what's your point?
Has it been confirmed how much time has passed in the real world after Verso's death?
Seeing as pre-fire Alicia from the family portrait looks the same age, I guess the 67 years Renoir and Alina spent in the canvas post fracture might not be more than a few weeks or a couple of months in the real world?
She's too apathetic to be a real dom. She'd tell you to fuck off and jerk off in your room instead of actually domming. At most she'd put you in a chastity cage and shittalk you.
why is esquie such a big guy?
Shit, doesn't even need to be a biological attachment. I've seen how Anon Babbletards post. You'd slaughter people for your dog.
That You and Verso are both right.
It's not confirmed, all we know is guesses based on Alicia being out of the hospital, the manor still not being fully repaired, and Clea's impatience.
My personal headcanon is one day out = one year in, so just over two months out since the Fracture in, but that's just headcanon.
The house is still under heavy repair so yeah, days at least, months at most.
Has to fit both wheee and whooo. And wine.
I thought the game was a bit short
You guys lack vision, very boring
forgot to reply
He offered a sincere apology to Verso so he probably doesn't consider painted people worthless doodles like Clea, he'd probably hear him out. But change his mind, no
Yeah, and don't forget it. Sorry loyalty means nothing to you.
Ain't even about loyalty anon. It could be fresh out of a random bitch's cooch and the argument would still hold true, because it's not about things like loyalty. Ultimately we pick those choices because we protect whats ours. My mom. My dog. My sister, etc. etc.
I don't like how they force Verso on you so fast after killing off gustave and how they try very very hard to make him seem super cool and dark and edgy and awesome. Felt like they tried way too hard and I just ended up not liking him in any way at all. It doesn't get better as the game goes on because Sciel then suddenly wants to just have sex with him because sure, I guess. He's one of the more tryhard characters I've seen in a game, which is a shame because he could be good if the writing wasn't so shit.
She revives Sciel and Lune because she grabs their chroma just after their gommage when Renoir is wreaking havoc in Lumiere.
pAlicia begged Verso and Maelle to look for alternative solutions.
Verso completely ignored her wishes and didn't even give her letter to Maelle and she read it when it was too fucking late.
He deserves all suffering he gets. The fact he gets pissy at Maelle for gommaging pAlicia is so fucking hilarious.
pAlicia begged Verso and Maelle to look for alternative solutions.
Can you imagine any?
Except we learn from Verso that grabbing the chroma didn't really matter when it comes to recreating them.
Maelle forcing Verso to sit in the corner playing piano as she fucks Guatave...
Need a bot to larp rubbing my cum into Alicia's burns and hitting her in the eye socket with some
doesn't bring back Gustave's left arm
Why didn't she?
He'll go in and yeet her out once he can no longer deny the truth that she's hopelessly addicted.
He can't. She's a much stronger Painter than he is. Renoir's not getting any stronger and meanwhile she has far more potential than her parents combined. Even when he realizes that she's only staying there to escape reality, he can't do shit to stop her. He knew she'd outclass him someday which is why he tried so desperately to destroy the canvas before she had a chance to fight back. He was just hoping that day wouldn't come too soon to stop her from making the same mistake Aline made. If you pick Maelle's ending, she lives the rest of her life in the canvas and dies there in denial.
Maybe he lost it before she entered the Canvas so she never saw him with the arm.
Did they ever actually mention how he lost it?
He can't. She's a much stronger Painter than he is. Renoir's not getting any stronger and meanwhile she has far more potential than her parents combined.
kek. Renoir and painted Verso say she has potential, not that she's some super saiyan in waiting. She couldn't defeat Renoir without Aline's help and she's not developing her skills by making Verso play piano over and over again. This is the worst headcanon so far.
So you would spit on (real) Verso's will to save his (real) sister and have her live in the real world?
not a single animation of her getting plapped yet
No, just that he had no arm and the prosthetic he has is a lumina converter. Unless we operate on the belief that all the other lumina converters that they lost on the beach assault were all spare arms for Gustave, there's no reason to believe that he cut his arm off to make the converter instead of just making a converter out of his prosthetic arm.
I actually thought they were gonna give us a Chrono Trigger side quest for this. When it happened I asked my roommate if it was forreal since he’d beaten the game already and even when he said he’s gone I still didn’t believe him.
Lune, Sciel, Monoco and Esquie don't deserve to die for one mentally unwell crispy teenager and a lying faggot.
So Maelle's ending it is.
Sciel deserves to die. Verso deserves to have his wishes honored. Clea deserves my penis.
Lumiere actually existed before Aline painted it. It was Verso's canvas. It was a world Verso created (remember that he created Esquie and Monoco and both remember Lumiere before the fracture and how they used to play with Verso and Clea). Then Verso died and Aline came in and began modifying things and creating the fake family as denizens of Lumiere. Then Renoir came in and caused the fracture, then Clea helped him out by creating the nevrons. Then Alicia was sent in to try to help Renoir but at the time, she was not strong enough and was painted over by Aline to become Maelle, a child born in Lumiere living a new life with no memory of who she really was.
Aline created Lumiere and the Lumierens. They remember it before the fracture because Aline was in the canvas for an unknown amount of time before Renoir went in to pull her out. Verso did not create the lumierens.
Clea helped him out by creating the nevrons.
The nevrons already existed before the fracture. They were things Clea created for her and Verso to beat up when they were younger.
maelle becomes a big girl and has an adult conversation with renoir and they agree to not destroy the painting but turn on parental controls so she can't game too much
and aline gets her hag womb blown out until she gets some sense knocked into her
Aline is barely aware of her
Not true. Aline made her become Maelle to get her out of the way
Renoir doesn't want her out yet.
He's too preoccupied holding Aline off and trying to find the canvas to put an end to the whole thing.
Clea doesn't give a fuck.
Sort of? She's bitter because she too at least partially blames Alicia for Verso's death but she also is single handedly dealing with the Writers. She can't really devote that much time to their family squabble AND wage war with the writers at the same time so she opted to focus on the bigger picture instead of worry about her family. She made the nevrons and that's about all she could contribute to the family spat.
Yeah but she only mass produced them to sick on the lumierens to help Renoir.
In a better world, anon
I thought the way you did, but I rewatched the end of act 1 cut scene after beating the game.
Aline shouts "You brought her here!?" as if she's surprised
trying to find the canvas
he hasn't been out since he went in, he doesn't even know it's hidden and can't erase it until his family is out.
For me, it's the McPainted Clea. The best waifu.
She didn't mass produce them. She modified them to corrupt chroma, then painted over painted Clea to handle production.
Bro, they literally say at multiple points that Clea made the nevrons. Most notably in the flying manor and when you find the final unfinished nevron but she also mentions before Alicia goes in that she has given Renoir what little advantage she could. The only beasties Clea didn't make are the ones found on the Axon islands and in Renoir's Drafts and those were made by Renoir. Aline didn't make any of the monsters. If she made anything for Verso and Clea to fight, those monsters are long gone.
Bro, they literally say at multiple points that Clea made the nevrons.
Yes, because she made them before the fracture for her and Verso to fight and beat up, hence "the nevrons already existed before the fracture".
Daily reminder Verso letting Gustave die is what doomed the Canvas and Dessente Family.
Verso is the real villian of the game.
You'd slaughter people for your dog.
*a dog, cur.
What would Gustave have done?
thrown a rock.
Isn't that Verso's objective the whole time? suicide by canvas destruction?
Aline shouts "You brought her here!?" as if she's surprised
Yes but remember the scene where Alicia goes in. As she's being painted over by Aline, Clea even taunts her by saying "uh oh, she found you. You better fight it before she swallows you up in her delusion too!" I think the surprise was less that Aline didn't know she was in the canvas and more that she was surprised Renoir actually allowed her into the whole Expedition shit in the first place. I think it was really only coming up NOW because Aline never expected Alicia (now Maelle) to make it this far or be a part of the Expedition. I think she just expected her to stay in Lumiere and live what live she could until Aline either stopped Renoir or his gomage yeeted her.
Either that or Aline painting over her when she entered was more of a subconscious thing, like a firewall she set up to keep further threats from becoming a problem. It just auto-flagged Alicia coming in and because she wasn't strong enough at the time, she got quarantined and it didn't even register to Aline because she couldn't fight back. At any rate, it was still Aline's doing.
yet people incorrectly guess the falls of civilizations all the fucking time
this is the most level 1 retard freezing temperature iq reading of that scene ive ever seen
That's exactly what he wanted. He just wanted it all to stop and he was tired of existing as this shadow of somebody else who only existed like some sort of security blanket. Plus, he knew part of the real Verso's soul was still there holding the canvas together and he wanted to let that soul finally rest. instead of get forced into it by mommy's selfishness. He even admits that he let Gustave die because he feared Maelle wouldn't have helped him with Gustave still around.
Is this a weg?
Clea even taunts her by saying "uh oh, she found you. You better fight it before she swallows you up in her delusion too!"
That's not how it went. Alicia gets flooded by Aline's chroma because at that point she was the majority chroma holder of the canvas (hence why Clea did the nevron modifications to help Renoir). At no point is it ever mentioned that someone's chroma is an extension of their awareness.
Logically how do the painted measure up to a painter. A painter's soul is literally worth more than their entire race put together
So unless you cheese him you need to basically no-hit Simon right? Since he always reduces you to 1 hp. Making a good case for cheesing him.
Clea just says "That's Aline's chroma" and warns her that IT will paint over her if she doesn't stay calm. Aline doesn't know Alicia is in the canvas until the end of act 1, that's why she sounds surprised in the cutscene there.
The canvas contains part of Verso's soul which is the only reason painted people can exist. They are based on a real soul which means they are real.
so, will there be a writers game?
Actually tried to figure out what was really going on and try to talk to people about it.
Not just the Dessendres, but Sciel, Lune, and act 2 Maelle are all too fatally flawed to resolve the conflict in a mutually beneficial way. Gustave could've changed that, but his fatal flaw, mirroring real Verso, was his self-sacrifice and not realizing how important he was to the people around him.
Likely a few months at least, but less than a year. Alicia's burns had time to heal over and scar, but fire damage to the house hadn't been repaired.
So it's the subconscious firewall idea then.
Rewatching it now because I like these kind of discussions.
Aline: You let her come?! You know she's too weak for this, how could you let her take such a risk?
Renoir: You only care when things are right in front of you. My sweet child. You were supposed to stay home. I told you not to worry. But since you're here now, just stay put -
Aline: What are you saying? You must go home, NOW. This does not involve you.
Renoir: When this is over, we'll go home together.
Unknown woman: No!
Given renoir's language, unless they're having completely separate conversations, "home" means outside the canvas. I think Aline getting painted over was as you described it, a subconscious firewall. Your interpretation certainly isn't impossible, though. Aline was insane after all.
It can't end like this... right?
They never explicitly explain the mechanics, but it's assumed that painters use a piece of their soul as the lynchpin to bring a canvas to life, and from what we've seen, beings in the canvas have their own sense of agency and independent thought, rather than being fragmented aspects of the creator, like in other pieces of media with a similar concept, so the soul is more like a battery in this case.
Gustave could've changed that,
How?
talking
About what? What resolution can you imagine having fixed things?
gustave mirroring real verso
No
yes, parry all his attacks.
I don't think so, you could say that the Writers (of the game's story) caused the plot.
I think there are solutions, namely communication. Aline is too addicted to wallowing in her own misery and seeking escape from in a vicious cycle in the Canvas.
Renoir is too jaded to realize the Canvas doesn't need to be destroyed, just used in moderation by the people outside the Canvas.
Clea is too detached and just wants her parents to move the fuck on so she can murderpillage the Writers.
Nobody is really slowing down to actually communicate and find a reasonable middle ground. It's probably reasonable that Aline can have limited access to the Canvas, just not to the point of never leaving. It's like visiting a gravestone of your kid every now and then.
Also, your image has no relevance in the characters personalities being alike, they're talking about their facial designs (since a lot of people swear Verso looks like Gustave.)
He better not have a lot of strings to memorize or I'm going to cheese town. Ain't got time for this shit with DS2 coming soon.
drops you to 1 hp
steals your shields
removes KOd allies from the fight at the beginning of his turn
Erases the party from the canvas
I cheesed him. I kneel to those who didn't.
Aline getting painted over
Did they really need two characters to have their name start with the same three letters?
I didn't say physically mirrored you clown, Maelle straight up calls him her older brother figure (and father figure) with his loss explicitly being to mimic Alicia's loss of Verso in the real world. She doesn't have that same connection with painted Verso.
And it's that connection with Maelle (and by extension act 3 Malicia) that would've changed things. Gustave is the only person she would've listed to and accepted if he had been the one to tell her to live in her real world, and Gustave cared about her enough to say so. And if Maelle was honestly and truly earnest about her feelings then Renoir would've been more open to keeping the Canvas intact and finding ways to keep Aline from it in the real world: it was explicitly because Renoir knew Maelle was lying that he was still resolved to destroy it because he didn't want to lose his daughter the same way he almost lost his wife.
Even if that is true it wouldnt count for the Lumerians. They weren't painted by Verso they were painted by Aline
just used in moderation by the people outside the Canvas.
Neither Aline nor Alicia are willing to do this, so Renoir ends up being completely right to stand firm on that topic.
Clea
Irrelevant sadist.
reasonable middle ground
Where's the middle ground? Aline will not leave. Alicia will not leave. If Aline is removed, Renoir will do the gommacaust.
your image has no relevance in the characters personalities being alike
We know nothing about real Verso's personality besides him dying to save Alicia (similar to Gustave) and hiding the truth with lies (nothing like Gustave).
You say that but when Maellicia was leaving the painting all she thought about was Verso and Verso alone. She didnt actually give a shit about the Lumerians when pushed come to shove. I bet my left testicle if she could/had to choose between the Lumerians and bringing Verso back to life she would choose Verso
She doesn't have that same connection with painted Verso.
By the time of The Choice™, Verso is all Alicia cares about. See >Alicia would've listened to Gustave
Interesting headcanon but Gustave protected Maelle not just out of love for her, but for Lumiere. I have my doubts his stance would've differed from Sciel's and Lune's.
Aline is just usurping Verso's canvas. The base material is still the same. Verso's canvas subsists on Verso's soul. Imagine a taking a piece of your soul. Pretty powerful stuff.
I always interpreted it more as Aline painting Lumiere, and then hooking it up to the canvas with Verso's soul as the power source for everything.
I don't think it's ever explicitly stated what exactly a soul does for a painting, or to what extent a soul can influence an existing canvas.
It's kind of a poorly defined system, which is a shame, but there's a lot of room for them to expand on it in sequels I guess.
she one shots secret bosses
she can do what she wants
She obviously cares about herself, otherwise she wouldn't be so adamant about considering the Canvas her home and pushing that it's the only place where she can truly live instead of merely exist. This is abundantly clear during the first meeting with the real Renoir, where she lets it slip and Renoir realizes she's just as lost as Aline.
I have my doubts his stance would've differed from Sciel's and Lune's.
Lune was 100% mission focused and didn't care as long as it took down the Paintress and later Renoir. It's why Verso was able to betray her so easily twice by simply being a guy who shared a same goal. Sciel was a complete nihilist, not fatally like Verso, but her "live in the moment" stances left her blind or apathetic to bigger problems. It's why she was at peace with being gommaged, both times. As you mention Gustave protected Maelle and Lumiere, and those goals aligning would be what would convince him to convince Maelle to rebuild her life in the real world, and then just visit once in a while instead of trying to make it her home.
Is the soul thing literal? I took it as more
This is one of the last thing of Verso's creation that we have, it's like the last piece of him still in existence in the world.
Verso is a liar, you know that because the Axon Renoir created for him is called 'Hiding the Truth with Lies'
same energy as
Maelle is outgoing, you know that because the Axon Renoir created for her is called 'She who Grasps the Sky'
but we know Maelle isn't known for grasping the sky, its the opposite.
Maellefags literally ignore the game to justify their headcanon
Given that everyone left seethes about Verso letting babby Verso stop painting, it seems pretty clear that the soul fragment is what keeps a magical canvas going in the absence of the painter.
Letting the soul disapate caused the canvas to be destroyed
Is the soul thing literal?
Yes.
What do you think the little faceless boy that everyone calls Verso's soul is supposed to metaphorically be?
Gustave protected Maelle and Lumiere, and those goals aligning would be what would convince him to convince Maelle to rebuild her life in the real world, and then just visit once in a while instead of trying to make it her home.
Even if that were right, there's just no reason to assume Alicia would care about what Gustave thinks. Maelle even had her limits when it came to listening to him. He recommended she stay home, after all.
what's the oneshot build
In this universe, there's no reason to assume otherwise. We literally see the fragment of Verso's soul as the lynchpin.
We know not all canvases are "living". Only the ones with pieces of souls become magic canvases that can be entered.
But again, none of this is explicitly explained, and it's up to interpretation.
I don't even know I just used the last skill you get from her quest on Clea and she was so mad she killed herself
Letting the soul disapate caused the canvas to be destroyed
No it didn't.
When painted Verso and Soul Verso disappear we're never informed on what happened with the canvas. It just switches scene to the family paying tribute at Verso's grave.
We have no idea what it means for a painting's soul to stop painting.
Maelle and Alicia are not the same. Alicia acts very differently, different speech patterens, mannerisms, and even facial expressions. Also Alicia always pleaded to Renoir not to destroy Verso's canvas. She barely brought up the other Lumerians. EVEN Maelle didnt care about Lumiere. In fact she hated the place so much that she was willing to waste her remaining lifespan on a suicide mission. It was said that she was a loner who was only close to Gustave
damage pictos
stendahl/gommage
Shrimple as that
Gommage?
Yes it fucking does. What do you think happens after the Verso ending? Lune lives alone with the Gestrals?
Losing Gustave is the single biggest event that broke Maelle mentally and emotionally. The entirety of the Battlefield area is about her dealing with the fallout of that grief and eventually getting to bury him. She is constantly talking about how she wished Gustave could've been somewhere and seen something with them, and she is the only one with a unique skill to carry on Gustave's memory, which she can only get after she regains her memories as Alicia. He means everything to her, to the extent of wanting to be on the expedition just to stay beside him in his final year.
Ironically, Alicia pretending to care about Lumiere to larp as Maelle only shows how poorly she understands Maelle.
yeah
like what the fuck I just wanted to some damage not skip the fucking fight
different speech patterens
yeah well Alicia doesnt talk
break+burn+mark
Fortune's Fury
All offensive pictos+lumina
Virtuose+Stendhal
???
We continue
lmao you are a fucking brainlet
What do you think happens after the Verso ending? Lune lives alone with the Gestrals?
Nobody fucking knows.
For all we know that just means no one can paint anything new into existence. Maybe all time inside the canvas completely stops. Maybe everyone becomes a baguette. Who fucking knows? No one, that's who.
wanting to be on the expedition just to stay beside him in his final year.
Don't forget that she also hated the rest of the people in Lumiere
Maellefags do all the time.
does she imagine him fingering her the same he plays the piano?
That's not necessarily true. If the soul is a power source, it could just mean the canvas becomes a regular, unpowered painting, and everything inside is frozen in place until another soul takes its place.
Or it could be a one way deal, and everything inside dies and becomes a fossil that can never be revived.
Or the canvas really does get erased because the soul acts as the "paints" in the painting rather than a power source.
Again, the system isn't well defined.
He meant everything to Maelle not Alicia. Alicia knew Verso for the 16 years she lived. She knew Gustave for less than half of that. In Verso's ending she begged him not to leave her again. She didnt say squat about Gustave or Lumiere for that matter. Even when begging her father it was all about not destroying Verso's canvas. It wasn't about Lumiere which was a side benefit.
how do you insta break something?
Alicia also creates this weird thing in here ending, too, but it doesn't convince me that she actually cares about Gustave.
breaking death + auto death + second chance + breaking attack/shot
do you just throw that onto anyone?
Did anyone else watch the trailers before the game came out and get the impression that Verso was gonna he Gustave’s Vergil?
Maelle, you know I'm happy you saved everyone
YES GUSTAV, I AM YOUR SAVIOR
and we're not going to keep telling you not to kill yourself and go bac...
YOU TRY ME PAINTED SLAVE
...can I have my real arm back? You can change the world at will, why am I still stuck using a prosthesis?
THE REAL GUSTAV HAD A FAKE ARM. YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM MY PIANOSLAVE TIME
Je suis le storm that is approaching
no triumphant reunion speech between them
That sold me this as a bad ending.
I didnt even know Verso existed. I think I watched one or two trailers and didnt remember him showing up
I remember some anon in the late 2024 threads that predicted he would replace gustave and would have a DMC like mechanic, not even joking.
I think it's overkill. Just get gradient charging attack/crit/burn/mark, put the three + 1 auto attack pictos on the your non-maelles, and have them go before maelle. Free shots will get a crit, burn, and mark per turn, and with two turns auto attacking each, by the time you get to Maelle you have 3 gradient charges and can gommage. With damage lumina on Maelle it'll take down even simon in 1 hit.
Yeah seeing Gustave just flicked a switch in my head and made me realize "something is wrong here."
Anyone except Maelle
I DON'T HEAR YOU WORKING ON THAT LUMINA-POWERED PIANO, GUSTAVE. DON'T MAKE ME PAINT SOPHIE'S VAGINA SHUT
AGAIN
Fake. It's impossible my cute and beautiful real Alicia is not in first place tied with beautiful and cute painted Alicia
Based Frenchies
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT TO DIE
I CAN'T KEEP FUCKING LUNE
I'LL NEVER BE HAPPY
UNPAINT ME
I DON'T WANT THIS LIFE
Maelle is the good ending. The people in the painting deserve to live. Verso is selfish for wanting to kill everyone.
The people in the painting deserve to live
Why?
Maellefags. If they didn't choose Verso's ending for long-term well-being of their cute and beautiful Alicia in her original world, they have no right to be called Aliciafags. That's it. I've spoken.
t. Head Aliciafag
exactly one minute later
aliciafags can't stop falseflagging
hated the rest of the people in Lumiere
No, she just felt weird in Lumiere. Probably because seeing a busted up Paris kept scratching at her lost memories.
I'm so glad you're here to visit me finally
come in to my wonderful home and see the wives
Sciels in the kitchen finishing up dinner, and Lune is out back in the garden with the twins
Come see your grandchildren!
They are your real grandchildren
No, they are just as real as anyone in your so called 'real world'
THEY HAVE FEELINGS AND SOULS AND DREAMS
THEY'RE REAL PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE TO LOVE THEM
WHO CARES THAT MY 'REAL BODY' IS DYING
YOU CANT BURN THE PAINTING I'LL KILL MYSELF
YOU'RE A GENOICDER WORSE THAN VERSO A GENOCIDER A GENOCIDER
LYING VERSO CUNT GENOCIDER THEY'RE REAL PEOPLE GENOCIDER GENOCIDER
I'm sorry you had to see that my loves
they just can't accept reality
one day we won't face bigotry
I haven't seen a single aliciafag who doesn't make up their own reasons for her to stay in the painting
The closest Maelle ever comes to saying she liked the people from Lumiere is saying that she wished she knew them better after they died.
The real question is, if painters can separate parts of their soul from their bodies, and animate life, does that not make them liches, and therefore, abominations to nature and a blight on humanity?
Why do they deserve to live?
I have no perspective on this argument because I haven't participated but the people in the painting are necessarily real. By virtue of life being precious, they do have some level of innate respect we should give them. But there's also an argument that their existence could be justifiably ended. They're an incredibly tragic people because they're in a gigafucked world, they struggle for a long fucking time and it's likely that they just need to all be killed for the sake of like 2 people.
Well it doesn't seem like those fragments can be used to return the painter to life after they're killed with, as we see with verso. Having said that,
Why do they deserve to live?
They don't, the writers did nothing wrong. Gas the painters art war now
I mean she literally does in her ending lol. The reason Maelle didn’t do it pre act 3 is because she hadn’t awakened to her real self yet.
Deus Vult, brother.
Don't answer a question with a question. Why do the Lumerians deserve to live?
Not how liches work, considering that Verso is very much dead.
Alicia is the shittiest painter in the family. The family painting wall with her shitty little painting makes this obvious.
Yeah I undertand but why do they deserve to live? Rights without the power to enforce them means nothing
nooooo force her to live in a world where everyone hates her and she’s disabled and scarred!!!!!
Y’all are cruel…
A baby has no power to defend itself but we don't just shrug our shoulders if someone decides to take one and powerslam it into the ground like they're celebrating a touchdown.
I did care about the family but I cared about Gustaves sacrifice and the expedition. Call me a child call me a drug addict but I wanted to see Maelles resolve all the way through even if her ending is the “bad” ending. Fuck the Writers, fuck Verso fuck Clea, fuck Nevs and fuck you!
Y'all
That is because other people have the power to force you to suffer severe consequences if you do something like that.
Cheers on you brother
Don't let them convince you otherwise.
The ending in which Maelle kills herself is the best ending for Maelle 100%
You would defend the painted people and the baby in your hypo yet are prochoice. Kys my man
But Alicia has the power to expel Renoir and make Verso into a slave, isn't that the exact same as the baby being protected by those stronger than it?
just beat the game and did versos ending. I didn’t get the part when she saw her friends waving at her. Were they merging into the real world or something?
Yes
pro-choice out of nowhere
???
I wanted to see Maelles resolve all the way through
That's just act 2 ending. Maelle dies in Renoir's gommage.
In act 3 you no longer play Maelle with scrambled memories of Alicia. You play Alicia containing memories of Maelle's life.
I think she's just accepting that they're gone forever.
Literally the whole reason Alicia wants to stay in the canvas is because she identifies as being Maelle more than Alicia at that point. She still calls herself Maelle and says Lumiere is her home. And Gustave is a major part of that.
No fucking way, i JUST saw this scene again today. For real?
Were you just looking for an affirmative defense of the Painting People? What's your perspective?
Daily threads about the ending for like two weeks straight
Is this greatest game of all time?
it's shocking how much redditors defend the maelle ending. it's obviously the wrong choice but I think they like it because they also can't cope with reality (trans)
it's a metaphor. they're leaving her life forever
Nope, Alicia wants to stay because she wants to pretend Verso is alive, just like Aline did. She makes other arguments but admits she was just saying whatever it'd take to get Renoir off her back. Not even Maelle considered Lumiere her home.
and she is the only one with a unique skill to carry on Gustave's memory
Oh look, it's yet another thing retards can ignore so that they can pretend like Maelle died at the end of act 2.
But Alicia has the power to expel Renoir
She doesn't. Renoir leaves of his own accord.
Unlike Alicia if you picked Verso's ending, you don't have Renoir smoking up the place as he tells Alicia about how he's going to keep the light on.
the fuck
verso ending is literally r.eddit core 'you need to accept the loss and move on! relatable! wow!'
maelle ending is neet and Anon Babble core, also it's kino
Renoir did nothing wrong. The entirety of this game is
THE WOMEN ARE WRONG
That's it. And women love it so much because they get to be contrarian and also the game is piss-easy so it isn't hard to get strong and then keep that feeling up for the rest of the game. Low "game" demand leads to more interpersonal boring family drama being blabbed about. Once you find out the painting people are all fake the story either slows down considerably or picks up for some people.
The power to do it doesn't necessarily mean physically forcing him out; convincing him to step out is just as valid because it leads to the continued existence of the Painting People.
I'm kinda upset there's no blender porn yet. Like, what's the holdup?
She says that because Verso is alive in this world and she can talk/not be a hideous burn victim. Yeah she cares about Gustave but she doesnt actually care about him and especially Lumiere as much as she cared about Verso and being whole. See
Not only does she literally say it's her home, but doing so is what sets Renoir off because it's that specific line that makes him realize she's as bad as Aline.
Yes the entire message of the game is that women are emotional retards.
Alicia getting tricked by the writers
Clea turning in to vengeful psycho
Aline going insane
Renoir is doing all he can to reign these wily bitches in.
Escapism BAD!
That's pure reddit.
Her hair carries her.
whaaat you don’t think everyone in the painting should die? now you get the bad ending
Yes because VERSO. Its not Lumiere she is talking about it is VERSO'S CANVAS itself
It is shocking how wrong every single woman is in this game.
Aline creates sentient life she has no capacity to provide stewardship for
Alicia gets Verso killed starting everything
Clea is so le above it all that she refuses to take swift decisive action and end this whole thing despite being le epic amazing painter. Has plenty of time to hunt down painted people and repaint them, though
Sciel can't figure out how to kill herself
Lune is suspicious of Verso but changes her mind and fucks him
Golgra is wrong for not getting splinters all over my dick
Based game.
Sciel
Charnon. You get it in Act 3 in the Renoir's Draft's map. You buy it from a Gestral vendor after caving its head in which you should be able to do in a single turn if not 2 by that point.
Monoco
Joyaro. Forgot where and who I killed for it but it's his absolute best because it starts him out in Almighty. There's a certain move he has where if you strike a Marked Enemy the wheel goes right back to the Almighty Mask.
What's bad about it?
Anon there is more to life than this video game you need to go outside
nooooo papa they are my friends i love them 5 more minutes please papa pleasee just a little bit longer
Let me just pretend my dead brother isn't actually dead, by forcing his immortal doppelganger to dance to my whims
imagine falling for maelle's cope and lies
she wants to trade the truth for lies and abandon her family and enslave her brother's soul so she can get gustave dick forever. if you can't see how that's evil you're either a jew or a trans.
That's Alicia and she admits she was just saying whatever it'd take to get Renoir to leave.
Oh no! Verso has to keep a promise for the first time in his immortal life!
He never wanted to be a painter. That’s a good thing since now he can be a musician which was his true passion.
so she can get gustave dick forever
Alicia doesnt care about Gustave. Its Verso that she wanted.
Verso was lip service for Renoir. She cared about her own life more than anything else, including the people she knew in Lumiere, including Gustave. If it didn't mean anything to her, then why would she bring them specifically back?
She wants to live a life without pain with her friends who are much better people than what's left of her family.
Why'd you join the expedition? I get everyone else but you're so young
EVERYONE IN TOWN IS A BIG MEANIE DOODOOHEAD
What friends?
Lune, Sciel, Gustave, Sophie.
Absolute nonsense. In the 'real' world, Alicia is an ugly, scarred mute with no friends, her father an abusive control freak, her mother's a depressed wreck, and Clea hates her brother for dying, and hates her sister for surviving.
And people think THIS is the GOOD ending?
Gimme a break. THIS IS CLEARLY THE BAD ENDING.
Try playing the game and find out yourself.
To be fair, Verso only left a tiny sliver of his soul in one painting before he gave it up to become a pianist. Not nearly enough for true lichdom.
What's stopping a powerful painter from painting tens of thousands of canvases, to the point that only a sliver of soul remains in their actual bodies?
It's an affront to God, I tell you. A mocking laugh in the face of natural order.
Painters must be purged.
t. Writer
Yeah she cared about them to an extent but Verso and not being a crippled burn victim are the main reason. Maelle HATED Lumiere for 90% of her life. Why would Alicia with even less of a connection care about it?
Alicia gets tricked and then has the--I'm sorry--the fucking AUDACITY to insist that "what happened to maman won't happen to meeee". Renoir was stuck in this stupid painting where his son's soul is unable to separate and leave this mortal realm to go be with the Creator for almost 80 years. Clea is the most like Renoir so she has the most sense but even she got sucked into this petty squabble. Aline is literally no better than a crack addict. The Canvas at this point is just meth and she keeps running back to it. Alicia helps to get her mother out...and then insists that she isn't going to be an addicted drug addict even though we ALL know she's using it for escapism because she doesn't want to be in a mute, damaged body. Alicia has "pretty scarring". Sure she has a missing eye but, come on, the model is designed to be cute. She still looks cute and presentable. If Alicia was revealed to be what a true burn victim looks like IRL then you'd understand how absolutely messed up her decision is. Renoir tells her to her face that she's been there for too long already and that more exposure would mean that *she dies too*. So Alicia just wants Renoir to accept that she's considering not having the strength move on so she just wants to fall into her escapism and not come back out.
Cradling the past is what gets you like this. And ultimately I blame Aline because she was such a poor example to her children. Of course Alicia ends up emulating her and thinking she'll be OK and avoid the pitfalls. Completely idiotic sentiment. Destroy the canvas, let your brother move on, and sort your grief out in a healthier way. Time heals all wounds. Time can't do it's job if you're constantly backsliding back to the hurt!
Exactly! She's such a little shithead for not having the wherewithal to see what her behavior is doing to her father.
Simple moral dilemma
Anon Babble pisses and shits itself for almost a month
I REJECT REALITY!
Kek
You just lied. You are clearly a biohole behind that post
Why are you surprised? Every thread about Stormcloaks vs Imperials still hits bump limit.
My screenshots are from the start of act 3, not the end.
But since you want to talk about the end of act 3 and bring up that she as just saying what would get Renoir to leave, that was specifically about her promising to only spend a bit of time in the Canvas instead of living there permanently. Alicia's motivations are entirely about her own self-benefit, and staying in Lumiere is part of that.
Why would Alicia with even less of a connection care about it?
Because act 3 Alicia retains all of Maelle's memories AND STILL FUCKING CALLS HERSELF MAELLE FOR FUCK SAKES. In act 3 she says that Lumiere is her home, not Paris! Asking why she cares about it should be your own problem solving exercise, because the simple matter is that she does care about it, more than the real world, and not because of Verso's soul.
Renoir is leading his family out of the crisis his wife would kill them all to go back to.
she is too retarded to just leave the canvas and come back.
if she comes back 1 or 2 weeks later everyone she knows in the canvas would die of old age, retard
That's how he himself describes it. It's entirely wishful thinking on his part that destroying Verso's canvas will help instead of making it worse.
pRenoir saw things from Aline's perspective and he said that Verso's soul is the last tie that Aline and Renoir have with each other.
"blah blah blah"
Sorry bro but. Alicia is coping. She just likes the name better and likes larping. Her primary motivation is living out an escapist life with Verso. Lumiere and her other friends are secondary benefits
Gustave is the only one that list that counts. Maelle literally says the only people she ever felt close to and/or didn't make her feel ostracized were Gustave and Emma, which speaks volumes on how she'd abandon one friend to face almost certain doom with another.
she cared so much about the lumierens...
Lune, Sciel, it's time for Verso's hourly performance!
B-but Ali- er, Maelle, those perfornaces last 45 minutes...
I expect to see you in the front row, wearing your uniforms.
C-can we have a non-destroyed home to live in? The city, it's still in ruins...
I'm not asking, Lune. Sciel, take her there, or I paint off your husband's cock.
In her ending it's clearly been more than that. Also she can just repaint everyone immortal.
She says that in the context of her life in Lumiere, before she got close with Lune and Sciel.
Anon Babble can't agree on which leg to put through which pant leg first.
Do you really think a divisive moral dilemma with no ideal solution is something they can agree on?
if she comes back 1 or 2 weeks later everyone she knows in the canvas would die of old age, retard
That means nothing to a paintress
pRenoir was trying to protect HIS family which consisted of pClea, pVerso and pAlicia
One life for millions, not really worth it
verso calls her out on lying and she admits it
she tries the same thing on him as Renoir
(You) actually fall for it
a bloo bloo bloo, back to reality darling.
Maelle a shit.
Or
Maelle a cute.
The age old question.
One life for millions, not really worth it
They were already dead.
pRenoir was trying to protect HIS family
Sure but he was painted from Aline's memories.
One life for millions
That's the process of life. You don't think that every single spermcell in your cum penetrates the egg, do you?
pRenoir seeing things from the perspective of a grieving woman doesn't convince me of anything.
Boo-hoo our dead son is the only thing keeping our family together!
That's grief and irrational speaking. No family splinters because an adult child dies. I won't entertain anything from Aline as correct. She has responsibilities in the outside world she is neglecting because she wants to throw herself into escapism. She doesn't want accountability. But she is a wife first and a mother second. And matters need to be tended to, point blank period. Your stupid daughter gets caught up in a plot and instead of comforting her you run to whatever puts a smile on your face? Drug addict behavior. I can't respect it.
Life only has value in the context of interpersonal relationships.
We're so back.
She's attractive so the real question comes down to are you going to let the fact that you want to have sex with her override you doing what you're supposed to do: lead women to the better decision. Because the lack time women led man we ate the apple and now we're in a fallen world because of it.
If Maelle gets her way she would just die and further divide the family. She's selfish. Because she's 16. She doesn't know anything but her own gratification.
WHERE IS THE BRACERS MOD
Whether you respect it or not doesn't matter. If that's how she thinks then what Renoir is doing won't change her mind and consequently won't fix the family.
why didn't they bring Aerith back? Shit was so sad
It was the French that brought Anon Babble to its knees
The ending is all about her though. She's only really gone from the party.
Sure but he was painted from Aline's memories
Alicia says that she wasn't painted as the same as her actual father. Clea hated her painted version. Alicia and pAlicia dont seem to be the same
Well fuck her for being selfish then.
Is Golgra the scorned lover of Monoco?
Yeah, that's the point. She painted him the way she sees things.
She acts like it but there is virtually no lines in game that reveal it. I prefer to believe she's like a play on a dog trainer or she's literally Monoco's bitch. I make sure that he destroys her everytime there's a fight.
quotes a cutscene in the prologue and ignores literally everything that happens in the actual game
Bravo
In game cutscenes
DRAT my one weakness
For those who come after
Oh wait none of those people are real because they're just made up videogame people by some crazed drug addict woman who is ruining her dead son's last save.
the guy who says this dies for nothing
for no real reason
to nobody's memory
Peak French writing. Best JRPG ever.
So nothing matters in this game.
Only matters insofar you can learn the lesson and let go of a dead loved one's memory.
The Painters are also made up video game people.
The game makes it very clear that she has more potential than anyone else in the family, she just had a rough start which is why Clea kinda treats her like crap and why Aline didn't give two shits about her until she got Verso killed, at which point she hated her for killing her favorite child. Renoir saw it though and that's why she was his favorite kid. It's why the Axon Renoir created for her was the tallest and constantly reaching to touch the sky, as it was meant to be a metaphor for her potential. That's what makes letting her stay in the canvas so dangerous for her though, because nobody else is strong enough to get her out. Once she decides to hide in her delusions like her mother, she's staying and nobody has the power to force her out. She likely has the potential to be the strongest Painter ever but it means fuck-all if she locks herself in a canvas and is insistent on dying in there.
TLDR: She is the one of the most powerful Painters in the end but it actually works in her detriment, not her favor, because it means she can't be removed from the canvas unless she chooses to, which she clearly won't.
If you're a filthy nihilist, maybe.
You're a made up video game people
And every one of those millions of people have them.
Ironically, Verso again saves Alicia at the cost of his own life. You can cry and stomp but that is the message the game wants to get across.
Renoir summons the Axons
save
Nah nothing in the game matters. Everything you do in game doesn't mean shit in the end.
Not in my game fuck verso
>The Reacher protects Renoir
Expected a buff
Instead it throws a building and kills everyone cuz i wasn't ready
she is a dumb child with her whole life ahead of her throwing it all away for the first lala land she ends up in. people have been crippled far worse than her and still made the most of their lives.
It will get better
Theres people who skipped this entire phase
Theres people who skipped Renoir's DM when he gets the wings and flies around
To be fair, it was late 19th century France.
What she had to look forward to was an icepick to her eyesocket, if she wouldn't stop being hysterical.
The endings aren't ambiguous at all.
The game is only truly beautiful when you see it from that angle.
What she had to look forward to was an icepick to her eyesocket, if she wouldn't stop being hysterical.
Wrong.
She would have been dildoed by a doctor to treat her hysteria.
Nah man if I was a doctor back then I totally would have done that.
Then you would have been arrested for rape.
That's why you stick to the medically accepted (at the time) treatment of "vaginal massage" to treat a woman's hysteria.
I skipped that phase on my third try. I found myself with Maelle at 8 charges in Virtuous pose with Stendahl.
Clea is pure and beautiful, she’s not dom. She’s for rape.
The moment she realized that she could be the god of her own little world, she became a bitch
made for BWC