Went from an absolute mess of a release with Hitman changing publishers like 3 times to somehow miraculously IO...

How exactly is its IOI's fault that SquareEnix didn't have the foresight of what they wanted WoA to be and chickened out when Hitman tm didn't become a huge success overnight? Everything just being a giant "DLC pack" was planned from the start, they just dropped the episodic format because people didn't like it

If you watch the documentary about IOI and Hitman, you would realize that everything that went wrong with Hitman was IOI's fault.

Square Enix gave them too much freedom. It was IOI who wanted a game they literally called "Netflix of Assassination"

And here, go watch it and stop blaming everyone else, but IOI

youtube.com/watch?v=_stW6JvB4SI

And they're no longer "poor indie devs :(", they never were, in fact they own 5 separate studios in 5 different countries

redemption arc

Can't happen until they drop the retarded always online bullshit and reintroduce separate camera circuits.

Retard, it is the best so far

Yes, you will love the Mendoza mission, they talk of all other targets by 47

introduce 2nd character as good as hit man

claim to rework the 2nd games online mode

"oh shit this is it"

we are finally getting co-op stealth missions like splinter cell again

hit mom 3 comes out

its just randomly generated missions with a leader board

We were so fucking close xisters. Its not fair.

ITS NOT FAIR.

It was IOI who wanted a game they literally called "Netflix of Assassination"

And it was based and is now easily one of the best live-service games out there, the whole damage control of turning the episodes into sequels because people didn't "get it" was simply because the first Hitman underperformed

separate camera circuits

Nani? I must be stupid. I do remember Bangkok's security console near the garage being removed and the explosive phone as well

posting in sticky

further more

developers basically announce they won't be making another and won't be touching the game again

God, dammit. Fuck.

The fact they release games with all maps, instead of episodic seasons, is the ultimate proof that "Netflix of Assassination" failed.

Live service is the worst part of these games, as it only forces fomo garbage and always online requirement.

hitman isn't stealth, it's a puzzle game

We just had McGregor's and Van Damme's missions, a new map 2 or 3 years ago, it sucks a bit, no special missions

thats the opinion of you but it doesnt make it fact and doesnt give you the right to call me a retard for disagreeing with your take

retard

I think they removed them after Sapienza, at least I specifically wrote in my survey that I liked having different circuits. iirc it was villa, church and lab, or even the marketplace too. Then after some update you could deactivate all cameras from any recorder. At least they could have left it for Master difficulty.
Can't remember too much about Bangkok though, it's my second least favorite map of 2016.

Both, stealth is necessary and a mechanic, costumes is one example Calling it soulless is the retarded part
Give it another shot, you are too used to BM and Contracts

why is this even a sticky

Stop thinking stealth means "hiding in shadows" faggot.

And that says much

nobody cares about the opinions of an ESL

I get it, thanks
I wondered why one deactivates them all every time, made no sense

plays ESL game

ok

ioi is going to drop the first trailer for project 007 soon, very important

And Battler is GAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY

Even if it did, other stealth games are as much puzzle games.

The OST is easily one of the biggest downgrades compared to the old games, but the game still rocks.

This, the same could be said for SC Chaos Theory then

Live service is the worst part of these games, as it only forces fomo garbage and always online requirement.

It's literally the reason we got Freelancer and the improved VR mode which are two of the best parts of the whole package. This being live service is the reason these games went from being just ok to being the best Hitman experience. If it had just been three regular games you would never be able to revisit the old maps with all the improvements they kept making.

Old levels with new engine fucking when?

WoA's soundtrack is more "cinema" feels like a 007 movie

If it had just been three regular games you would never be able to revisit the old maps with all the improvements they kept making.

Improvements such as colored smoke when poisoning stuff?

there's 0 reason to keep it always online and constantly make timed exclusive stuff for a single player game

It's literally the reason we got Freelancer

plenty of games god additional modes as free DLC

and the improved VR mode

don't make me laugh, everything VR related only happened, because they got paid by either Sony or someone else to do it

redemption arc

Improvements such as colored smoke when poisoning stuff?

No, stuff like the tighter controls, briefcase, high grass, mirrors, blood pools etc; did you forget how insanely Hitman 1 was?

I didn't buy the new ones because of the episodic bullshit.

good thing the last episode dropped like 4 years ago then

tighter controls, briefcase, high grass, mirrors, blood pools etc; did you forget how insanely Hitman 1 was?

Insanely what?
Also, what about blood pools and mirrors? I can't remember them working now.

Some of the in universe tracks are pretty good but the mission music is fairly uninspired.

This is actually fairly streamlined, you used to need a whole flowchart just to work everything out.

I've only played Hitman: Absolution and I thought it was great. Truly a must play masterpiece.

I've been planning on playing the newer games, but never got around to it. How do they hold up against Absolution?

I just wanted co-op mode where you can join your friend and do any of the missions.

It would be fun to see the dynamics of helping each other out and setting up assassinations.

Each Hitman game is generally an experiment in what it tries
Absolution introduced some more 'just get to the exit point' levels and the checkpoint system in them. It also introduced instinct and challenges, which are in the new trilogy

Overall it's pretty good and would recommend it if and only if, you enjoy the replayability of figuring things out differently like in the king of chinatown, all the ways to kill him. WoA is a lot, lot like that

They updated the game to have working mirrors and blood pools that NPC's will react to

Truly a must play masterpiece.

Too obvious

When did they do that? Because mirrors have always beein working and blood pools have never worked.
Last I played when the van Damme mission was out.

But I usually only play on Professional unless I'm doing some SASO run.

NPC's didn't react to you sneaking up behind them in the mirror in Hitman 1, most of the big changes were in Hitman 2

Think it will play similar to Hitman?

NPC's didn't react to you sneaking up behind them in the mirror in Hitman 1,

I distincly remember trying to whack a dude in a Paris bathroom and him reacting to me pulling out my piece, and don't you mandela me now!
It's been almost ten years, I barely remember anything from the old times

It would be a mistake if it does, imo

Hitman 2016's professional difficulty was the hardest the game ever was. They got lazy in 2 and 3 and just tweaked things like detection and weapon loudness while in Hitman 2016 you had new cameras, new camera behaviour, guard placements, blood trails, etc.

Yeah and casuals complained and they dumbed everything down

It's still an absolute mess of a release. Just a couple of days ago they gave away the Sapienza mission for free and it resulted in a shitshow because nobody knew what they were even redeeming. See

Grass, guards no fucking escorting you to the start to try again instead of shooting you and ranged distracts are the three biggest mistakes the series made imo

I'm willing to tolerate one Hitman style level but if the entire game is that it'd be lame.
It'd be a waste of the IP just to make Hitman with Hair and upper class English accent.

Think it will play similar to Hitman?

It would be a mistake, if it were a Hitman clone.

I am expecting a story driven games like Hitman: Absolution, but with more action and less sneak faggotry.

Can I get help with the Japan mission
Yuki tends to just to go to her room and stay there, regardless of what I do
If I use the director's disguise, she follows me and I can kill her that way but even distracting her and leaving cigs doesn't work

You can mess with the temperatures of the sauna to force the NPC's out, then she will enter it and you can shut her in for an easy kill.

I'm afraid this is the only place I go for vidya information and I spent a couple years away. I mostly never buy new shit and this is a new series in my brain.

Yuki should roam around the building, she walks a route from the sushi bar, to the sauna, to her room and then repeats.
I can't remember if there's any way to have her move into the secure part of the hospital where the other target is though.

Crazy how Hitman is WoA is already 10 years old, at least the season 1
I've been playing it since they first dropped the Paris level, and I'm still playing it to this day with all its levels and Freelancer mode, I know every level better than my own house and yet I still have massive amounts of fun stealthing around the levels, even though I already did it all
It's my favorite stealth game ever
Literally everything I've ever wanted and more, just Blood Money and its freedom of approach, but on steroids

get hitman 1

have a good time

get hitman 2

can now play hitman 1 missions in hitman 2

dont bother with hitman 3 cause of the EGS exclusivity

WoA launches

they give out a free episode

install it

can't access hitman 1 or 2 missions despite them being on my account

ioi can burn for all I care, it shouldn't be this difficulty to check for a license.

i wish the games were more popular, most hitman threads die within 15 posts.

any mod suggestions?

do yoga with her as the instructor. you can shimmy into her room from the outside from the ledges too

We usually have good threads once it gets properly started, and as long as contrarian Blood Money / Contracts faggots don't try to stir shit up too much
As for mods, the best one is Freelancer Variations objectively

Encyclopedic knowledge of the placement of every crowbar, screwdriver, propane tank, banana, car battery, and wrench on every map in WoA.

Can't remember where I left my car keys most mornings.

Blood money and contracts are better than live service slopman world of garbage

If you prefer the old games atmosphere it's fair
The gameplay, freedom of approach, level design, and amount of content is vastly superior in WoA, it's just not debatable

online only

even after going independent, they don't remove that bullshit

community has to fix it with project peacock

also hiding unlocks behind timegated content is terrible.

Least obnoxious contrarian faggot
We get it, your turdworlder PC can't run WoA

Peacock is so fucking based
The team behind it basically reverse engineered the whole server side shit
With it you can play 100% of the game's content offline, unlock all items if you want, replay Elusive Targets infinitely with no gay timer
Only downside being that you still need a tiny bit of internet connection to go through the Steam/Epic authentification when launching the game, but after that you could unplug yourself from the internet and keep on playing
I think they let that authentification in because otherwise it would considered piracy
Peacock still saved that game from the always online nightmare thoughever

As an actual BMfag who doesn't like Absolution, I want to say that I very much enjoy HITMAN and everyone claiming to be a BM/Contracts fan and whining on about muhhh dirty atmosphere muhhh Kyd soundtrack muhhh scripted kills is a secondary who hasn't played either.

ten goddamn years after this whole shitshow started they still don't have "everything-included" option on Steam

i have peacock, freelancer variation, unofficial patch, hantu port and simple health bar so far. theres some goofy mods on nexus but i'm not trying to change anything to crazy

You are the secondary if you actually defend scoring based unlocks over Blood Money purchasing, no dual silverballers, ultra linear ubisoft style follow the red line to target shit, and all the other garbage Nutman introduces.

Same here, I bought it on Xbox One, then PS4 Pro for DLCs and PC for Peacock
Too bad I didn't buy McGregor's DLCon Xbox and PC
5000 hours in so far

Hantu port? Elaborate, please

it makes the sniper map 'hantu port' into a regular map, pretty creative when you read all the stuff they had to do
nexusmods.com/hitman3/mods/588

Nice, Himmelstein when?

Shut the fuck up contrarian faggot

What?! BM is the linear as fuck one next to WoA
Get a grip

Sorry I outed you, secondary casual.

That's because Steam (and this entire site) is filled with ESLs that can't read worth shit.

BM is linear but open, WoA is open but linear.
Essentially old school design vs. Ubisoft design.

I'm using peacock, is it normal that everytime i go back to the hideout i get these pop up?

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever, contrarian faggot

guards no fucking escorting you to the start to try again instead of shooting you

but WoA literally has this, if it says "trespassing" and you're not carrying anything illegal a guard will escort you out (often a great opprtunity to take him out and steal his outfit) and if it says "hostile area" they WILL shoot on sight. If you're in trespassing you can often just run past civilians because even if they see you they won't have time to go and alert a guard

i don't with 8.0.1

Freelancer is a lot of fun

Always online will kill the franchise

Always online will kill the franchise

Peacock exists and IOI wisely doesn't really seem to give a fuck because they know trying to go after it does more harm than good. WoA is one of the few Live-Service games that is legit 100% confirmed to be preserved once IO kills the servers

That wasn't even me you humongous faggot, but he's right

Man Freelancer is peak Hitman and peak Stealth
The hideout is comfy, upgrading it, decorating it, collecting all the weapons and tools, the fear of losing said weapons and tools when fucking up during missions, being able to buy your shit, the fact that it's never predictable and always tests your knowledge of the game
The perfect end game mode for a stealth game

the fact that it's never predictable and always tests your knowledge of the game

It doesn't test shit; running in, doming them with a suppressed pistol of your choice and running away is a viable strategy.
If you don't play on Hardcore, that is, but Hardcore is for masochistic faggots only anyway.

fpbp

Yes guns are more viable than ever in Freelancer
Still, sometimes I get the autism itch and want to perfect a Freelancer mission for some reason, doing it Silent Assassin, even though it serves no practical purpose and I'm most likely wasting time and effort
I just want to hit men for fuck sake

Absolutely. Freelancer taps into that roguelike brain itch perfectly. Every run feels earned—when you scrape by a showdown with a rusty old ICA19 and a single sedative syringe, it’s pure kino. People bitch about the always online, but there’s no other mode in Hitman that keeps you so damn engaged with the entire sandbox. Hopes are low for future IO projects, but this mode alone cemented WoA as one of the greats.

Even pulling off the simplest "run in, cap in the head, run out" strategy requires game, levels and AI knowledge
You can die incredibly fast if you get caught and don't have a proper escape route for instance
Over the years since Freelancer came out I've seen countless retards on forums complaining that Freelancer was too hard, and then you ask them if they played the main game and they tell you no
This game mode is for Hitman autists who already did their homework and spend countless hours mastering the main game

name a harder series to install on your PC. you can't

fuck hitman. these people are greedy assholes.

bloodborne

I meant native PC

Redemption arc for the most retarded and greedy way to sell your game ever? You people truly are the little whores of game publishers.

requires game, levels and AI knowledge

Eh, mainly level knowledge. In fact, level knowledge is the single most important thing to have before going into Freelancer.

Makes 0 sense. I feel so limited in the forst 4 Hitman games, WoA grants me freedom

Invisible Triggers: The Game

Anyone that enjoys this has a low IQ and is easy entertained by smoke and mirrors

Freelancer is dope

why yes, I have no fucking idea what a trigger is, how could you tell?

what do you mean the old games also had triggers?

neck yourself you fucking double nigger

I still don't understand what I'm supposed to buy......

you're the triple nigger that was too dumb to see the blatant smoke and mirrors of the game.

try not walking into the mansion on the very first level and see what happens to mission critical NPCs. Spoiler: they do not progress past their initial loop until you walk through an invisible trigger.
You unironically enjoy this low IQ gameplay. Consider canadian health care.

retarded double nigger too retarded to even understand a very short post

doubles down on his retardation by being even more retarded

As I said, kill yourself

you're the retard who conflates the old mechanics with the new, not understanding the intricacies.
Let me guess, this was your first Hitman game. Enjoy your feces.

It should be Hitman AND more. WoA already feels like a Bond game a lot of the time; all it needs is better action, more social interaction, some driving and you've got a perfect Bond game. The lack of disguises should be rectified by having more complex gadgets to use.

FUCK these developers
never buying one of their games again
they not only double dipped but TRIPLE DIPPED
they had it on steam, then changed to epic and FORCED EVERYONE TO BUY THE TRILOGY ON EPIC THEN FORCED EVERYONE AGAIN TO REBUY THE ENTIRE TRILOGY A THIRD TIME by rebranding the same fucking game as a bullshit new game and locking progress transfers/account linking to only new purchases at full price and not when it goes on sale eventually
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK THEMMMMMM

fuck them, pure cancer
and NO it wasnt a publisher's fault, its literally them 100%. they took epic's fat cock and then forced everyone to bend over
FUCK THEM

Same goes for ALL Hitman games, fucking bonobo idiot
You were too young to realize it

Let me guess, this was your first Hitman game.

No, wrong, very wrong, but keep trying to sound smart, it's very entertaining :^)

cant find target

start blasting everyone

last one is walking off of the map and away

manage to hit them and they fall through the map

it killed them and counted anyways

neat map addition to fa but buggy

sticky

BASED

only replies to the one part where I called you out on being a newfag

You freely expose yourself, how embarrassing. I clocked you from a mile away.

Ahem
Fuck Providence glowies

Wait which map is this that they added?

always online DRM even on consoles

checklist game

get fucked

its the final test map but modded to look like cuba, it must have come with freelancer variations. the creator has a standalone mod for it called welcome to cuba but i haven't tried that version

nexusmods.com/hitman3/mods/863