How can you make romance mechanics in video games have more depth than increasing or decreasing relationship points...

Dominant women are only ok if the man at least has a spine and is still manly instead of being some little DYEL twink bitch loser. Otherwise this fetish is borderline tranny adjacent.

you say this yet jack to trap porn faggot

tfw no gnoll wife

instant projection

Seek help man.

I'm not i'm assuming from all the femboy gooners filthing these threads

Hi, is this the thread for single mom manchildren?

God I wish that were me

lol this, it's always some trannyniggerfaggot hopping on mental slope about how futashit is ackschully based and redpilled or something

Yes, get in line.

It's genuinely scary how porn addiction can warp a man's perspective of reality itself

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None of these are true, just don't be ugly

Nigger if anything Mommy Dommy fags tend to also be "fem"boys who self-insert as traps.

tall girls don't like shorter men or are insecure about it

not a manlet btw

women are never dominant unless they're mentally ill

this reality fucking sucks man

I started reading ya romance novels. I truly love them.

i dont get it .. perhaps because i never expirienced it myself

No game can accurately respond in a way that you have total agency as a player.
It couldn't end. It would just go on and on, occasionally aligning with what you would want but generally it would be unsatisfactory.
Determinism is real and you can't escape it.

Tall women hate being tall, they're even more neurotic and autistic than the average woman. They want to wear heels and be girly girls, but with extra tall men so they can feel "normal"

There is no men's romance because romance is fucking gay and lame and only serves to stroke the ego of foids.

There is no men's romance because romance is fucking gay and lame and only serves to stroke the ego of foids.

The simple answer is you cannot. At most future technology(Ai/ mindgear) will allow you to experience a virtual romance fully but the reality is none of it will ever be real and does not compare to the real thing. Romance has no place in video games if the MC is a self insert. The people desperate for romance in games need to just interact with the real world more instead.

So no one did something nice for you ever huh. It's only real to those that get such treatment. Doesn't mean that we get to experience a woman being romantic to us though.

Obvious bait, but I still don't understand what incels, as in men who solely want to get laid, can't just go to a hooker? Or, alternatively, confess that it's love and connection they want first and foremost and not sex.

Is this dynamic so heavily memed becuase it doesn't exist in real life?

There is no men's romance because romance is fucking gay and lame and only serves to stroke the ego of foids.

You're both kinda right though. Women don't make romantic gestures nearly as often women are not romantics at heart when you ask their idea of romance it's always being served and never service. Now you can find a woman who loves you and will do small things that will endear you to her but it's rarely if ever the default.

simp hours on Anon Babble again

Failed normalfags are an absolute plague.

Do you think most men are romantic at heart and care about anything else besides getting their dicks wet?

Katawa shoujo
Snoot game
Many many visual novels

snoot

Men's romance is like this

I still don't get it

Almost all female demographic romance involves a low trust dangerous male who treats the protagonist likes shit or rapes her

Watching incels try to explain romance never stops being funny

I think he's saying that men are the only ones who *are* romantics, no?

Men are the ones who have stories about sacrificing themselves for their family or about winning the heart of a woman. Women, on the other hand, only ever dream about BEING Romanced, about being loved without having to move a single finger or do a single thing other.

I mean, think about it, right: what did Rose really do for Jack in Titanic? Let him drown so she wouldn't have to share a door? What about that bitch from Twilight? What did she do for her guy besides accepting his advances?

Foid romance changes depending on if they are on birth control or not.

I do actually. Look at romance written by men vs by women. Mens fantasies vs womens. My own anecdotal experience ties in aswell. Maybe it's because I mostly date Asian women but I've never dated a woman who's romantic and have only ever met one(close friend) who displays actual thoughtful romance rather than being the one who just recieves it.

So you propose they just want to be abused or raped. That the other gender can't conceive of love without lust.

Then the female is just a broken object.

Incredibly tasteful Anon right there.

Twilight was just shonen/harem shit for girls. That post is stupid.

Bottom should say low self-esteem men's romance.

The only way to make romance mechanics to work is to have writers who understand romance. This does not appear to be a thing since the Millennial generation; “romance” since the around the 2000s has become animalistic lust. I’m serious and am not shitposting. Think of any romance created in the West over the last 20 years I dare you.

I seriously dont get either

projecting

Honestly, I feel nothing for mommy femdom. Unappealing to me.

Plenty of men's romance exists. Read manga. It's the most wholesome stuff imaginable.

Women, on the other hand, only ever dream about BEING Romanced, about being loved without having to move a single finger or do a single thing other.

So like the faggy manchildren in these threads?

just because you slammed a landwhale doesn't make you less of a fucking loser

It's because it helps predatory men get closer to women by appearing harmless. Either that or self-loathing young leftists who are afraid of being "the toxic kind of masculine".
Look at those muscles. That's not a fit girl. That's a man with tits and lashes bolted on. She's not a fit healthy woman fit to carry a powerful brood, she's a mutant and an affront to the natural order.

I never had any issues "getting it", the fatal flaw of twilight is that the writing is complete dogshit. The hate train for it got so big (and deservedly so), that people started misinterpreting what was actually worth hating and started just saying "vampires romance bad"

Yes,women are incels with vaginas

Yeah, take every single fucking waifufag on here for example. So many men are simps who worship women even if they don't put out. They don't even do it for pussy, that would just be the ultimate gift. A woman just simply acknowledging their existence is enough for them. That's why simps who pay twitch thots thousands of dollars just so that they mention their name and say thank you exist. Not to mention how many retarded white knights that feel obligated to defend women on the internet every time someone dares to make a critical comment about one. Unless you are a simp yourself you should have realized by now that women hold incredible power over like 50% of all men just by existing.

Hello everyone. I am a budding author in the realm of erotic literature and i am writing short stories with character dynamics similar to this.
To you, my valuable potential customers, how would you feel about a nudist MILF with gigantic breasts knocking on your door?

Faggy manchildren are NOT the ones calling out foids on their bullshit, retard.

trannies out of NOWHERE

My sources:

Book sales

Hentai

Dating asians

Is this post satire?

For every harem isekai about a man having women dropped on his lap,there's a story where a man has to go through hell and back to get his woman.

Where are the female equivalents to *that*? Where are the stories where the girl has to put every ounce of effort she has to get a man?

youtube.com/watch?v=LAAieerW5Co

He's right and yet you are the one trying to change the subject. You essentially like a muscular man, while you act like a woman.

Maybe the women who want a man to make them feel like a special princess and the men who want a woman to call them a good boy can get together and compromise or something and honestly that probably happens more often then you think

extremely confused as to how she hasn't been assaulted already or suspicious as to where the guy with a gun is to steal my organs

I’ve come to realize that men are not the sole owners of the loneliness epidemic.

I would want to answer the door and see the nudist MILF but would assume it is a ruse of some kind

Nudist or Exibitionist?

I'd love a story about a man and woman putting in equal effort to save the other from some threat, not realizing until the climax that neither were in need of saving, but both were putting their life on the line for each other.

And with compromise you of course mean that men just does everything the women expects of him while his reward is being in a relationship in the first place, got it.

Probably assume there's a guy waiting in the bushes with a gun.

Slay the Princess, unironically

Not all VNs are eroge.

women's romance, actually

My rich, loving, trustworthy boyfriend has just proposed. But I have to visit a small town for some reason. Oops, I bumped into a handsome farmhand. He taught me the meaning of Christmas. Now I dumped my boyfriend for a complete stranger. This is a sensible and wholesome course of actions.

I never mentioned hentai. Literature is a good resource romantically to see into the hearts of people. I'm open to countrr arguments? Do you have personal anecdotes of women displaying romance rather than just receiving it?

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this

Ok anon, let's pretend you are not like those dirty femoids who only care about looks, would you actually date an ugly as sin -1/10 if she showed you love and actually cared about you, enjoyed being with you, and showed you multiple signs of affection?

Nice projection, retard.

I'm writing one right now, sort of
It's hmofa though

Am I the only guy who doesn't want to be babied by a woman? This is totally uninteresting to me.

Its true.
You fags would be lusting over this gay vampire if he had tits and a Vagina.

So, it was always just a shitty porn story without the porn? Got it.

It's funny how you are supposed to look down upon and be disgusted by men who want the bottom thing here and you are expected to laugh at them for being manchildren who haven't mentally matured or some shit, except if they actually succeed and get laid then you are suddenly supposed to be in awe and praise them because they got the pussy seal of approval of a foid and now you are just sour grapes if you make fun of them.

I don't care who the IRS sends, I'm not paying taxes.

not a fag if it's a woman

Why? You will just counter with

Nice LARP

Never happened

Ywnbaw

You made it clear that your view of the world is the only one that matters

nta. I would need at least a 3/10

This seems to be less true with zoomers. Also zoomer girls tend to be taller. Not sure why the later is the case, since it's not like nutrition significantly improved.

I just want a romance game where you marry a horse.

at least

Femoid mentality

-1/10

The only way a woman could get that low is by being morbidly obese. A woman who is morbidly obese is unable to get out of her bed, much less to "show signs of affection"

Do you have personal anecdotes of women displaying romance rather than just receiving it?

By having a girlfriend, have you ever had one anon?

Don't forget that "harem isekai about a man having women dropped on his lap" is pretty much universally considered shlocky garbage only read by pathetic losers, whereas the female equivalent was one of the best selling book and movie franchises of the late 00's and early 10's.

It exists because there's a critical mass of 'soft' men who'd rather not be so forward in a relationship, due to general shyness and fear of appearing too 'forward' with women. Hypothetically, a dominant women would solve this because she'd be the one making the moves on him.

Tall women are a lanky mess and won't go for manlets

That's basically what those anime kigurumi costumes and masks are for.

Women, on the other hand, only ever dream about BEING Romanced, about being loved without having to move a single finger or do a single thing other.

Go look at the fucking mountains of Japanese haremshit where the most unimpressive young men get an entire gaggle of girls falling over for him for no reason.
It’s literally the same thing. It’s just wish fulfillment of wanting to be seen as highly desirable. And don’t come at me by trying to say that female romance is about imagining getting raped while male romance is about true love or some shit, both sexes are equally susceptible to “I can fix him/her”.

Are you telling me they do it for free?

Lol.

Its not about the act of sex its about the relationship holy fuck you people are dense.

So you do care about looks? So much for romance

this would nuke some peoples realities causing much controversy, much so to the insecure ones in their relationships, it would be a hit for sure as a movie or game and cause havoc id like to see, mostly because all the social media and their gender wars will be struggling with this without showing their real manipulative colours, where did it all get so wrong ? whats worse is with all those divorces because people dont want to put up with their partner anymore, instead of trying to fix things
they just dump all the years into the trash

Woman and chads hit and run. It's their destiny until they are overdue. Aggressive functional and calculating behaviour is devoid of love and appreciation.

Oh but it's totally legit when women look at men's work of fiction to complain about the male fantasy. In that case I won't say shit because god forbid I disagree with a vagina-haver. No I will only continue to exclusively shit on other men who dare to play by the same rules as man-hating feminists on xitter.

And it’s considered schlocky garbage by everyone else.
Guess what, both made a shitload of money still.

You don't want to date Jabba the Hutt? Guess you're no better than women who demand a Perfect Greek Adonis to worship them like a goddess!

Afraid so.

Oh but it's totally legit when women look at men's work of fiction to complain about the male fantasy

Literally no one said this, maybe you wouldn't be a lonely faggot if you didn't have fake fights with people inside your head

waifufag

Terrible example. They have a new waifu every quarter if not in every game/show. With the rise of gacha you now see waifufags can't even keep it to one waifu per game, they simply move onto the next girl as soon as she's released.

realistically who would? that kind of guy would just come off as desperate, and vice versa if it was a -1/10 girl going for a guy.
Men care about looks of their partner as much as women, that's not a bad thing retard, it's nature.

It's funny how you are supposed to look down upon and be disgusted by men who want the bottom thing

You’re not. Stop projecting

Lust vs calculated lust.
All lust in the end.

She's your neighbor, a lonely MILF who awoke to an all-encompassing fetish for exhibitionism after she noticed you were peeping on her masturbating by her pool. She was horny all day, unable to stop thinking about being caught naked. After a restless and sweaty night of touching herself, her delirious mind couldn't stand the idea of ever wearing clothes again. She bagged up every last stitch she owned, deposited it in a donation bin, fully dedicating herself to nudism and now she's back for your cock.

If I made a genuine romance game none of you would play it and no one would buy it

Actually yes, you complain about women not picking ugly faggots because they're mean, but you do the same shit with ugly women, these threads are just ugly fags being always mad at women at blaming basic nature on shit like muh romance

I accept your concession

No you definitely are, because on paper it's an ick for foids and you can't support anything that gives foids the ick. But if some femboy twink sub somehow pulls it off by being so feminine that a bulldyke will date him you are suddenly supposed to find it based and try to emulate him.

tsuntsun anon trying to get my attention in the horde of Anon Babbleniggers...

As a society we did go wrong. Real love is so unlikely nowadays that people just go for whatever they can get, shallow lust or affection mainly.

It's evene better if she's not human.

Making up shit, blatantly lying about reality and making up a situation where you are right is not an argument, anon.

I know this isnt the place to get into it but a well written otome that isnt just porn for women can be really engaging. And likewise a well written romance that isnt porn/harem wish fulfilment for men also exist you just have to look. Slop will always be the most popular in all things but theres an entire genre in manga and VN for romance shit that is well written and serious.

The writing would need to have depth and you would either need to be basing it off of real world experience or be familiar with psychology involved in dating and love or something.

I want to make a romance game and I know who would be in it and the world it takes place in, but I'm too lazy to make anything so I'll just continue to enjoy the girls in my head.

it doesn't happen dude It's just pure coincidence that I'm always on the side of women

Shut the fuck up retard.

What in the fuck are you babbling about you schizo?

The femdom thing is just a reaction to everyone only ever seeing women dominate men, because le West. You can write a regular "light maledom" story and these mongoloids will enjoy it just fine.

Calling something bullshit to avoid having argument also sucks anon

Titanic has a similar premise and it's one of the greatest romance films.

Men and women should unite and use the power of love to take down the fractional reserve banking system

This isn't anywhere near -1/10 though
Look at those sleek lines. The tasteful thickness of it. My god, she even has a pretty red hat

I'm not, stop trying to be a victim you fag

Okay, than what?

But anon they do that and bankers, yews and pimps get all that money too!

argument is about how female romance is always just a woman receiving the affections of men without having to lift a finger

WELL YOU'RE AN UGLY INCEL CHUD WHO'S MAD THAT WOMEN DON'T PICK HIM!

You certainly argue like a woman, at least.

My wife says that your tierlist sucks.
I do not read btw

loneliness is their active choice

boohoo!

Just translate love and deepspace so they can get their fix and let's move on with our lives.

Redistribute the wealth from baby boomers to everyone under 30
Nobody is dating because nobody can even afford it

"their" is circled

Completely ignores all of the drooling white dudes hooting and hollering at ripped female WWE wrestlers.

Completely ignores the fact it's undeniable fact that on average women prefer otter to twink built men with boyish faces over chadslabbeef and grokdadgut.

Facts don't care about your feelings, anon.

Reading is radical
You can get in a character's head way better in a good book than an equivalently good game or movie

I'm certainly not a victim because that would imply that anything you faggot do would be threatening to me which it certainly isn't. I'm just tired by simps being so dishonest.

twitternigger is retarded

nope I just want a muscular tomboy that's my gf and my bro I can lift weights with

I didn't, i just asked if you were willing to pick an ugly woman if she was romantic and actually cared about you, but you, in typical femoid fashion, said no

I can afford it and I still don't want to date.

Making shit up

Not that anon, but do you have proof overwise? or are you having a moid moment

Redistribute the wealth from baby boomers to everyone under 30

You really place great trust in people to not blow it all on gacha and vapes.

Okay but does any of what I said happen? I mean for fucks sake, "Men goes through hell for his wife" shit goes back all the way to the most ancient of stories like The Odyssey or The Illiad, but where is the equivalent for women?

I mean, I don't read otome stories, but from what I see in Anon Babble, it seems to usually consist of high-school drama nonsense where women torture and ostracize their rivals for being evil bitches who deserve it.

if some femboy twink sub somehow pulls it off by being so feminine that a bulldyke will date him you are suddenly supposed to find it based and try to emulate him.

There's a small percentile of women into the dynamic, the rest dudes who are into femdom and femboys and their frame of reference is anime porn where everything is stylized.

because they want to?
books are cheap to write and the essence of them is everywhere from the concept of pacing to timing

Thread about romance in video games.

Ctrl + F

"Toki"

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Come on guys.

I'm not trying to be a victim! I'm not trying to be a victim!

I need this

That sounds dumb, no one wants to watch people not actually do anything and their efforts are pointless.
But if you want a story about a couple putting in equal effort to save each other all the time you can watch future boy conan

it's obviously not actually a thread about video games retard

Unrelated, I just realized that the purest and most stable relationship in hazbin/helluva is a straight one between a guy and a tomboy, funny

No, you said "A -1/10"

I said "A woman that low has to be morbidly obese, and would thus be unable to be romantic at all". At no point did I ever talk about how women have to love living beach balls.

I'm sorry to tell you this, anon, but being obese is a choice.

top one is emotional validation

bottom one is porno sex brain

men need to be culled

Women think it doesn't count as porn if it is a book.

books are cheap to write

But not to publish, I noticed. Especially not to actually publicize
I was looking at making both an amateur game and a novel, roughly same cost either way. Writing's free, getting it read isn't

you will never be pure

This is a reddit sexuality thread.

what an embarrassing thread
no wonder this entire site is dying

Josou Sanmyaku
Josou Gakuen
Josou Jinja
Josou Sennen Oukoku

Mommy issues: The Thread

G O D

obese is a choice.

Nta but you don't consider such people as sick people? No one wants to be unhealthy.

I hate to be the one to tell you this anon

But she's going to abort his child without telling him.

"faggy" "immature" "unmanly" thing bad because it gives women the ick and gets you no pussy (because that's the only measurement of value we know) and no man is allowed to do said thing or he's a faggot loser who failed at life

but if "faggy" "immature" "unmanly" thing suddenly starts being liked by women and does get you pussy it's instantly switches from bad to good and every man has to instantly adopt said thing or he's a faggot loser who failed at life

Do you understand it now, retard?

Yea theres some like that where the entire premise is its a girl doing the trad masculine role of "fighting for" her man like a prize. I know otome is largely gay looking but just saying theres some that take it seriously and dont fetishize the men or make them girly, some are medeival theme and stick closely to the gender roles and id look at those if i were you like look for some where its a princess and she has to overcome some obstacle for her man.

that's good
male and female romance are fundamentally different and aim at different things and feelings

xitternigger tradlarp account

opinion disregarded sarr

This image reeks of copium and incel energy

What if she's just buttfuck ugly tho?

I read women's romance because I find the empowerment they give men less cringy

I've genuinely seen worse.

You got your gay demon shows mixed up
He's obviously talking about best boy Sir Pentious and Cherri Bomb

Okay, do you have examples?

Cute, godspeed with your project soldier

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didn't read more than a second into it
saved but only so i could shitpost with it

Titanic is a bit different: the fiance was established from the start as a huge asshole.

i'm a marathon runner why is it my fault for not wanting a fat bitch?

Anon, if you continually do a thing that makes you sick, you absolutely want to be sick.

Stop stuffing your fucking face with unhealthy shit and then never exercising, you absolute fatass. Don't give me some excuse about "Muh healtby food is expensive!" when cooking a meal at home costs less than going to McDonalds nowadays.

Prove him wrong without deflecting into "i bet he's just a mexican dwarf in a steel shack".

Doing this helped me realize I'm mentally ill.

character does thing

feel reassured because I do the same thing

later revealed that no one thinks its normal, even said character

link NOW

ywn be allowed to lower your guard and be free for a moment to be loved if women were even capable of unconditional love

it's actually some indian posting for ad revenue
and no faggot make your own arguments

I too have read hyena-chan

Goalposts moved. That's the same as every romance that you were decrying. It's never the case that the rich guy is some super nice guy that she decides to fuck over for no reason, they are always an asshole, sometimes only a little bit at the beginning and it ramps in up into vindictive stalker by the climax, but most times it starts off with their true colors being revealed early on Titanic is no different.

Some people can't control their habits and body chemistry. Or their genetic code, or the environment or how their immune system functions. Just saying you are full of yourself.

if an attractive naked milf knocked on my door, i would think its an awful prank or a trap of some sort, i would politely tell her to go away

achievable natty?

Not loving someone enough to help them get into shape and get rid of those nasty habits

Peak femoid

I accept your defeat, uwu smol bean son of a single mother.

Saw a clip of some vtuber the other day where some guy in chat asked her "What one thing would you say to get a man soft?" She goes "I'd put his head in my lap, and whisper, 'You're doing fine. I'm proud of you." I legitimately felt my body relax hearing that

go back to xitter faggot

You're so gay holy shit

Anon, a pussy is a pussy, and a go-getter is a go-getter. This shit is way below the "cultural level", you can't adjust this. There is no way to go back to bonobo matriarchal communes either, countless radfems have tried, it doesn't fucking work. Nobody really wants to fuck the explicitly submissive dudes, and people keep pairing off and leaving to start families. It's a wash.

for centuries men have just been bottling everything up

internet comes along and provides an anonymous way to post about feelings without having it tied to your true self

after a flood of being horny, everyone realizes that all we want is just love

the likelihood of ever being able to express this in a real life setting is slim to none, so we just keep bottling it up

It's really quite sad.

I'm not usually into anthro, but the werewolf girl actually seems like the most pure-hearted from that description, since it's the vampire that is described as getting into a feud with her and there's no mention of the werewolf trying to attack the protagonist.

I said I'm writING it, as in present tense writing not past tense written
And I want it to be a real book for once so I'm not putting it up chapter by chapter

affront to the natural order.

The modern woman that is too weak to give birth without a c-section is an affront to the natural order, you drooling fucking retard.

Yea, then it ACTUALLY happens and suddenly it's "ewww"

holes LOVE to say they would be comforting and understanding, but then the moment it's time to actually experience it they all turn into the Sahara and break up shortly after. it's exceedingly rare for men to survive opening up to a woman

No you don't get it I literally can't stop buying soda and junk food and then never exercising ever, I just can't :(

my honest course of action would be not opening the door, pretending there's nobody home. even if I know for certain its a ruse I won't confront it because im a pussy
but what would be more interesting is opening a door and offering a towel or a blanky to cover her, obviously

Awww did dommy wommy mommy skip your donation today? :(

what are you doing with this faggy larp ? this gender risks life in prison just to buy videos of children being raped and brutalized, snuff and red rooms shit, the worst thing women consume in written books disney level compared to the stuff men actually do

I mean yeah? Addictions have been a thing since forever, which is why these people need actual help

Probably my favorite stuff has to be male yandere shoujo/josei stuff.
Such a great combo of cute girls and guys that know what they want

if?
rule 63 mods were some of the first ones made for bg3 companions

Aren't most otome stuff like this
Underdog commoner girl that caught the princes attention has to fight against and outwit the mean nobility and cruel jealous stepsisters trying to undermine and sabotage her at every turn and who spread rumors about her to the prince

Yes, I've read it correctly the first time
i read fanfiction most of my life, you can't scare me away with "unfinished" tag
most shit I read never concludes
now stop being a pussy ass bitch and post link to existing chapters

Close the door and lock it and prepare for a home invasion where the busty nude milf is used as bait.

Every single edit of the original is absolutely cringe. The original wasn't self-aggrandizing like these edits it was

Women want to be choked and threatened = this is correct

Guys want maudlin lovey dovey harem = this is correct.

It's meme'd because the uwu twoo wuuv types can't ever shut up about it. And are generally hypocritical in that they are either as he said (minus that brood shit that's retarded) or And it's generally just fronting because you get them to be honest and they want a dominant scary fucking guy. They don't want to be female space marine lady with fix-it-felix rom wreck it ralph unless felix happens to have a hogger and can dom like a champ

It's performative.

i read fanfiction most of my life

Me too anon, that's why I want to do different stuff this time

I'm not putting it up chapter by chapter

I like "fault - milestone one" its fantasy focused, doesnt lean on tropes
kinda but a lot of the time they femenize the men and relly on cliche nonsense

well post your existing works then
I seriously hope you're not a complete amateur writing from scratch with no prior experience
that would be such a waste

It's just pathetic when men call other men virgin losers for shit like liking anime, but then 20 years later women suddenly love anime so now liking anime is actually le based chad move and now you are the virgin loser if you do NOT watch the newest FOTM anime to be able to talk with women about it. Pussy-whipped subhumans have literally no real interests, hobbies or personalities. They only pick up things if they think it can get them laid and they will hate on everything that they think decreases your chances of getting laid. There is nothing more pathetic in this world.

What, like kedamonotachi no jikan

Used pads

I hate it.

Sure anon, if you like
archiveofourown()org/users/Cobalt_Blue_Sphere/works
I've mostly written hmofa and weird female monster romance, but I've also done a few other sundry things you might like. The number one thing I've learned over all this time writing/reading that I'm going to try and apply is to focus first and foremost on the characters' feelings and how they are conveyed without just saying them

I'm reminded of that short story, the Gift of the Magi, where a husbamd and wife self sacrifice to get the other a nice Christmas gift

I've mostly written hmofa and weird female monster romance

that's what I've been after from the very first post anon

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One of the biggest copes ever printed onto paper.

hmofa and weird monster

Explicit femdom as usual then? That's the default in this scene.

haha...

neither mencels nor femcels want to do any work

shocker
you didn't need porn to teach you this, retards

If your mother had to be cut open to shit you out, neither you nor her deserve to live within the natural order.

tall muscle girl hugs helpless small boi

out of NOWHERE

ugly women don't exist

Okay, isn't that just like giving birth? They're in hell remember?
Worse case scenario the child is literally sinless and goes to heaven. Wow so horrible.

Explicit femdom as usual then?

No. I like equal partnerships. Like for example in 'Two Normal People' - he's a guy who's had to stoop to some depths he wouldn't have thought possible previously, she's a woman turned into a 50-foot long worm hydra monster, and they're both just looking to feel normal again for a moment
I did write something like that once a very long time ago, but you won't find it there. It wasn't that good, but I tried to focus on how a relationship like that can kinda fuck people up

top: youve done nothing but i like you better than everyone else

bottom: youve done nothing but i like you better than everyone else

i loooooove summerfag threads

Resting your head on a woman's lap is peak but hearing a woman say she's "proud" of you is massive cringe. The only person you should want to be proud of you is your dad or some other older man in your life that you look up to and respect.

I've known "stocky farmer girl" women who still had C sections for their second or third child.
Pregnancy is no joke despite whatever trad online bullshit you're consuming.

woman gives birth naturally at home standing up!

Utter bullshit even if you're an olympic athlete.

No one tell anon how female Hyenas work.

I huff hmofa and monster girls for hurt/comfort
this shit soothes my soul

If that's the case, then none of these romcom anime series are actually for men as much as people complain about it. There's not even one series for men, if you think about it.

Because every single one of them boils down to this same "You're better than every girl and I choose you"

That's the best feature

The top is a woman being chosen for being the best woman out of all others.

The bottom is a man being chosen by a woman virtue of just being a decent human and the ultimate prize is starting a family.

Male romance acknowledges that the man is definitely not the best, hell, he is probably subpar in a lot of ways, but he still found happiness.

Women, on the other hand, are shit at character consistency. A character may start off as average or middling and by the end they are the hottest bitch in the universe with zero flaws while every other bitch in the setting is full on demonic or dead. Male protagonist? Stays kind shit but still pulls off a W.

incels, as in men who solely want to get laid

you misunderstand what incels are

confess that it's love and connection they want first and foremost and not sex

that's exactly what they do

Nothing to get here, just your standard interspecies romance, minus the porn, where a sub average human gains the attention of handsome monsters who quarrel over the protagonist.

This one just happens to involve a human woman and hit the big screens.

Alright but even though they did a gender swap the male character is still in the passive feminine role the entire story how the fuck are people ITT so into that?

does he know?

is he blackpilled?

uhh source?

"natural" is a spook

There can be only one affront to natural order

Nice cope, closeted faggot.
Who are you quoting?

(minus that brood shit that's retarded)

You're retarded.

Author is a jew, it's no wonder he hates beauty.

What I think you meant was a new neighbor moves in next door (the MILF nudist) and you spy her in the backyard, etc...

Are you sure you are a fucking writer? This one wrote its self.

I meant possessive rather than abusive

look inside

snoot

I knew that username looked familiar
also I fucking love offtopic threads on vee

nah your wife being proud of your career advancements or something is fine, it just means they're happy for you. I guess if you mean "proud" in a parental approval way obviously thats weird, but if you ask a medal of honor recipient's wife "are you proud of him?" obviously the answer is yes

I was looking at making both an amateur game

you can self publish on steam and if you are intelligent enough make your own marketing campaign

publishing book

yeah, that shit ain't free, publisher usually will ask for your script and then have it "proof read" by someone working for them and then that person tell them if it's worthy enough to publish or to pass.

Guys with mommy issues (extremely common)

She gave birth to the first one successfully. Obviously as human beings grow older, their bodies begin to fail and so do their reproductive systems.

woman gives birth naturally at home standing up!

No, we had birthing ropes for it. You might want to look it up before making more retarded comments or attempting to reduce my statement to absurd so you could walk away with a "win" after acting like a retard.

You have to provide fan service so men have somethign to jerk off to while they wait for a payoff.

I like equal partnerships

This works for men, sure. I enjoy these the most too, being a huge contrarian. A specific question: do you do the popular thing and don't go into the sexual past of anyone at all (so the reader projects whatever they want); or use the modern notion of "dating" (everyone is expected to have multiple prior relationships that fell apart for reasons); or make the chick a virgin, maybe the guy too?

the male character is still in the passive feminine role the entire story how the fuck are people ITT so into that?

they wanna be araragi and are alright with being bossed around a little if it means tons of supernatural pussy

If you think about Twilight (lol) Bella really does get the most humblebrag power; that she can nullify anyone else's power by concentrating on them

The fact that in the setting every vampire seems to get a bunch of standard vampire powers and then one Unique X-Men Power but hers is that she can stare at somebody and make theirs not work anymore

And when shit turns into a massive melee with two opposing armies that's the most disgustingly OP power to have; like when Dakota Fanning is killing the werewolf with telekinesis and Bella was like "You don't have telekinesis anymore bitch" and Dakota Fanning got like 1.5 seconds to realize how fucked she was before her face got bitten off

you can self publish on steam and if you are intelligent enough make your own marketing campaign

Absolutely true, but there's more costs involved than just publishing. As a coder/writer, I can't do grafix or music for the life of me, and the prices artists charge on fiverr is brutal

publisher usually will ask for your script and then have it "proof read" by someone working for them and then that person tell them if it's worthy enough to publish or to pass.

From what I've been reading, even if they give it a pass, they generally won't give it any deliberate publicity. You gotta go out of your way and do your own marketing anyway. Sounds infuriating to me

You don't go into the sexual past of anyone and then you also make them both virgins if you want idealized romance. If you make it a work of idealized romance, you also advertise it as such. It's pretty simple.

feel shame and embarrassment for crying at my dad's funeral

don't want to open up to people for fear of being seen as vulnerable or exploitable

stopped talking to people in general over a decade ago

therapy didn't help

video games help to fill the time but I'm just tired.

the modern woman

Women just used to die in childbirth all the time.

You don't go into the sexual past of anyone and then you also make them both virgins if you want idealized romance

Literally two different things. First is all ambiguity, the second is anything but.

Because men are people too. What I think is sad is that men are supposed to be these eyeless, faceless robots who don't even feel anything from sex. Like when have you ever seen a man able to express sexual pleasure outside of a gay context?

You guys are so fucked lol. Good luck.

that's just Momose Akira no Hatsukoi Hatan-chuu

want to do VN

can't draw

oof, big mistake, text adventure are a thing tho and many people like it, but unlike VNs you can really make it "linear"

also making you own marketing campaign for a book is not that bad, find forums, put a post on them and generate attention, same shit the shills do here basically except you don't have the same customer base

The glowies all freaking out over the white men they created gives me a great deal of joy. So I got that to look forward to.

I'll never forget snootgame, beautiful story and loved the threads around it
Most stories I've written would fall outside the modern notions of dating anyway, but I generally go with the former. It's a simple and elegant solution. Maybe I'll imply some experience/history with a line or two, but I'm always careful with it and I err on the side of being vague

You're a bad writer if you cannot reconcile those and seamlessly flow from one to the other.

they're about as common as women who like female-centered romance where the dude's not a psychopath

Like when have you ever seen a man able to express sexual pleasure outside of a gay context?

if you're a sadist and a dude you can express that especially in the context of dominating a masochistic/submissive woman but thats basically it. thankfully I'm a sadist myself so the status quo benefits me but I feel bad for anyone who's a sub/masochist/switch because lol lmao kek that's dante must die difficulty.

You will be caught! Only chads may write VNs

He doesn't "hate" beauty, he's pointing out that we as social and sexual animals desire many contradictory things in our mates
Lithe women are more likely to reproduce but are also more likely to die in childbirth and generate unattractive lithe sons, for example. Socially desirable traits are not superior to eugenically desirable ones and vice versa

I just looked it up and 500 years ago, a woman had a whopping 1.5% to 2% chance of dying in childbirth

Close to 50% of babies died during their first year so being a baby was apparently way more dangerous than being a mother

the thought of a day when I'll run out of things to numb the pain with fills me with very deep and profound dread
but that's future me problems
drugs and vidya worked so far, so why worry? :)
im 32 btw

Why didn't they just say that it is wish fulfillment that they indulged in? Nothing bad about the truth.

Only chads may write VNs

Doesn't that picture kinda imply the opposite?

You get used to it after a while.

His VN was actually trying to be serious and put in effort to appear to be a genuine romance.

Close to 50% of babies died during their first year

Is this including statistics related to murder driven by post-partum depression?

wish fulfillment bad (if it's pandered towards men).

so being a baby was apparently way more dangerous than being a mother

isnt that obvious? every mother by definition had to survive being a baby herself, vice versa isn't true. childhood mortality has always been the biggest cause of reduced life expectancy

They don't. Audiobooks and other passive forms content consumption are on the rise. Combine this with an exceedingly lack of good new content coming out for most media and you have youg people defaulting back to books. They can just turn it on through spotify or youtube and zone out to it.

I just don't understand how you can not as a man be annoyed by the idea of women physically defending you and fighting over you in a she-hulk style wrestling match like whoever wins is gonna throw you over their shoulder and amazon press you in the woods. You might be penetrating but you are literally the passive female partner in the scenario which just intrinsically and instinctually feels off-putting just to think about. It's not even really just about the sexual aspects of it it's also having women dictate your actions and do everything for you while you sit there doing nothing but waiting with no agency which is simply boring storytelling.

Approaching women, hoping all goes well, and you don't spill your spaghetti and become the laughingstock amongst your acquaintances, is a daunting prospect. Yeah, it's cringe, but I also understandable why some men imagine scenarios where it's the women being forward, taking that burden off their shoulders.

It's a simple and elegant solution

It's the most popular one for a reason, sure. Doesn't rustle anyone's jimmies.
YOU are actually stupid, buddy. Unless you're stressing not mentioning anything about chars' sexual history before revealing they're virgins, in which case, fine. Is the reader supposed to suspect the girl is not a virgin, and then it's a "relief"?

Tall women hate being tall

Wow, women are really stupid, huh?

back in the day there was "Sadie Hawkins Dances" which were literally women asking out the boys instead of the other way around and they were unsurprisingly very popular with men who didn't have to rely on """""""signals"""""" (which many girls vastly overestimate the clarity of)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadie_Hawkins_dance

Should haven't tried faking something they can't really convey genuinely.

No?

Is this still not available in English
I've seen this reposted image like a million times I want to read it already

Ye I just realized you're right actually
Please do your best to ignore me, I lack IQ

Pain suffering even

That list has so much blatant feminist power-fantasies I couldn't stomach like 90% of it.

The thing about romance is that weak male protagonists or love interests are fucking pathetic and promiscuous female love interests are fucking disgusting.
If you have to give either male or female a pass on certain traits it becomes very forced because a narrative suffers from catering an inherently unlikeable personality.
Women read erotica today and the very vast of female protagonists are absolutely vapid sluts.
They have to be to move the smut along. If they put up a fight to their base urges of simply getting fucked by the CEO or the tentacle monster or the somalian immigrant who is only out to rape them, then their primary audience would find it very clashing with their pathetic lust-fueled reading habits.

Romance has suffered the most from the insurgence of female readers who make up majority of readers today. It's been an absolute fucking tragedy.

skimming the back of women's novels quickly disproves this

He thought he did. He didn't realize they could smell his virgin.

I click through books like a Youtube zoomie

grim

Nigger foids are completely fucked in the head and make no sense. You can never take anything they say for granted nor can you ever assume that the shit that they like in fiction also applies to real life. I've seen xitter accounts of self-described dykes who have more posts thirsting over male anime characters than about any female ones. Everything they do is performative and insincere.

real grim is believing that the second panel isn't already purely male romance

not mentioning anything about chars' sexual history before revealing they're virgins, in which case, fine

Congratulations, you did it.

Calls others retarded

Incapable of understanding nuance

Lacking basic reading comp

Checks out, tard projection at its maximum

just a shitty porn story without the porn?

without the porn

You've never actually looked at the books women read, have you?

Underrated

How do you people consistently have such a tiny amount of self-awareness?

If it makes you feel any better, this disconnect between what bitches say and do doesn't do then any favors. Besides getting to benefit from various reward structures, like, say, getting a job for being woke.

Goal post moved twice now

You're a woman, you wouldn't understand emotions.

drugs and vidya worked so far, so why worry? :)

im 32 btw

I'm also 32, and ironically sleeping on a regular schedule, eating healthy, and going out for daily walks and getting regular exercise and sunlight works better than drugs ever did.

Like when have you ever seen a man able to express sexual pleasure outside of a gay context?

When they rape women.

Metro exodus.

Ugly women can get a partner easily if they use dating apps

Why the double standard Anon Babble?

You would need a chance of permanent failure. Real people have personalities, social strategies and selection filters. It could maybe work as a dwarf fortress-esque autistic sim. But this is one of the things autism doesn't lend itself well toward.

would you actually date an ugly as sin -1/10 if she showed you love and actually cared about you,

Here's the problem with that for someone to get to the point where you would consider them a -1 they would have to be so far gone that they can't love themselves let alone another human being so what you're saying is inherently contradictory.

Too much emphasis on bonding in video games. Not enough emphasis on courting and general obsessions. Persona just straight up lets you bond with people you don't even care about, and if you're obsessed with another character; you can only go so far in social links. At least give the player options to mete out his fantasy without real consequences, bonding isn't everything.

Lmao who wrote this? Does he think every woman is a ditto or something?

Also: there are many ugly women with partners

the difference is that the guy wants to fuck her while the woman wants to get murdered by him

It's from the MILF's perspective. She's lonely and bored after her divorce, having lost all confidence in her appearance due to her fat ass and plump belly. But noticing that the cute neighbor boy (You) was checking her out at her most intimate lit a fire inside her.

For me, the double standard is that one is socially acceptable enough to be placed in book stores whilst the other is mocked despite being the same shit practically.

stop making it about choosing from among options and instead make it about having a story about a concrete couple
there are good romances in games with romance options but the ones that only have one couple and focuses on fleshing out that story are the best
outside of VNs that are purpose made to be at least 50% about romance - those build out every route enough to justify their existence rather than just choosing one girl

good for you buddy
as for me, due to my job 4/5 of those are impossible, so im making lemonade. peyote flavored.

Reminder that the Rance games were written, for a time, by a woman.

Are you familiar with the monstergirl genre? And i don't mean surface level stuff, some people genuinely would not mind sticking their penis inside a xenomorph with tits.

God I fucking hate them.

as for me, due to my job 4/5 of those are impossible

What makes them impossible?
I used to say it was impossible to do this stuff too, but it only takes like an hour out of the day to get a decent walk in, its easy to eat more fruit and vegetables, and it doesn't really matter when you sleep as long as its a stable schedule and you're getting enough sleep every day.

How did it compare to the time it was written by a man though?

Plus there's a non-zero amount of yumejoshi self-inserting themselves as Sill in the Rance x Sill ship. You know, as the literal abused slave who gets fucked silly whenever her master wants.

I gotta start doing those first two. I've been getting the last three with a daily walk after work, but the first two elude me due to my lack of self control

evil psychopath rapist is written by a woman

woah

I have read some choice XCOM fics and now I crave this. Send help.

I dunno why most anime/video games never start their story off with MC and the girl already knowing each other. Not really "childhood" friends but to a point where they have a relationship already.

you can tell rance is written by a woman because he's got a boyish charm to him (along with the "cute" shark teeth) and is kind of a himbo who despite being a rapist with a harem of like 100 girls still largely just goes around doing what they tell him to do for the plot

You seek medicine that can be never be found. You will never have the panacea you crave.

Because when they do it usually leads to death for one of them.

Go look at the fucking mountains of Japanese haremshit where the most unimpressive young men get an entire gaggle of girls falling over for him for no reason.

Wrong, those are written for women.

Have I got the Zyugoya for you shits.

What makes them impossible?

My job. Not gonna go into too much detail but consistent schedule of any kind is rare and sunlight is only available at summer is very little quantities
I don't think "walks" from my workplace to bed count so yeah, I guess I can lift some weights at the gym when I have free time

There is some really romantic "hentai" out there, like this is... it made me gosling pretty hard...

Sounds like your job is killing you both physically and mentally

No. I like equal partnerships.

I wish that were possible. But sadly not.

It's true. It's also the only thing keeping me alive.

doesn't have a receding chin

Why is he an incel? He already has good looks.

It sucks. The audience is left out of the loop entirely, especially in the case of VNs.
I remember kanotsuku2 did this, it was more childhood friends, but she kept bringing past events up and it was like bitch I don't know wtf you're talking about. Really dampens immersion

Think of how much better the world would be if all breeders were sterilized.

open up moby dick

paragraph 1 is "all i can think about is death I want to grab a gun and step onto the sidewalk and open fire i need a reason i need purpose, to the sea"

you'd be surprised at how little has changed for young men

Repeal the 19th

faking dating is a cute trope and I don't care what haters say

I always found it sort of appalling how accepted Rance had been solely because of its tongue-in-cheek style of writing despite featuring a protagonist that in any other game would be condemned by its audience as the most repugnant Luca Blight tier villain imaginable. Hell, I think Luca is not as bad as Rance, because he at least had a reason behind his derangement - seeing his mother raped and murdered in front of him and witnessing the cowardice of his father that failed to protect her, which lit such contempt for everything and everyone in him that he just went about life looking to spill as much blood as possible and in the end dying for it.

that's fine. it builds on compared to im suppose to take my immersion out and they go from 0 to I WILL LITERALLY DIE FOR YOU AND CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH in the span of a day.

because writing an established romance with material for conflict is harder than recycling the same hookup bait.
bonus points for needlessly dragging it out to pad volumes/runtime.

I would say that him being very hot or cold is a bigger tell. You know, like in Fifty Shades where the billionaire guy occassionally acts very nice towards the MC between their sadistic BDSM sessions. Plus he's possessive as hell of Sill, which women fucking love in romance.

top one

you're the best because we want the reader to jerk off to themself

bottom one

you're good enough because everyone needs a little validation

Women's romance is a childish power fantasy

fucking yikes, i don't know if you're lying but come on it's only an hour to workout and stuff.
that being said, being healthy doesn't make me feel any better, it feels like I'm doing everything right and just got fucked because I was born right in time for a recession and the age of people being absolute pricks to each other.

Well fair enough. If I had to choose between one or the other I'd choose the former which is why the romance in Steins;Gate sucks shit and Mayurii was easily the better option.

nigger

Pretty much. What the top one tells me is that they're utterly incapable of friendship with other women, and they'd stab even their own sisters in the back. It's more just using the man as a weapon against everyone they're jealous of.

manga has been so ass recently that my favorite read so far has to be a SOL about an office worker and a convenience store clerk. this shit is hella cute

Just read pure wuv VNs instead. Chances of them trolling you even a little bit are low.

I'm pretty sure there's harem animes like this already.

It's entirely due to the circumstances lining up such that he ends up working along with the good guys.
Everance is a really cool case where Rance being Rance ends up with him joining the bad guys.

See, the thing is even the VNs ""for men"" are all about reassuring jealous women like in the top pic in OP.

Every single story by a Jap, I'm serious

lying? I wish.
workout does sound nice tho

This doesn’t happen
Whatever subgroup of degenerate you come from, this never existed. You will never have this thing in pic related and it’s just fantasy.

Honestly, if someone's too much of a sub and masochist I just feel deeply disgusted by them as a person.

Doesn't she get frozen and Rance gets depressed and travels across the world and save her
Does he ever let her get fucked by anyone else

Is it despair hours already?
Is it time to break out the goslings?

sadako is a hermaphodite

This but for men only
theres no limit to how submissive and masochistic a woman can be before it gets disgusting
While the disgust bar for men is very low

before the thread ends or gets 404'd, what is actually the best romance in a video game? shit that makes you go fuck that's adorable.

Protagonist going "you're the only one for me" to a non aggressive and non jealous woman is more for the man's benefit.

Ah, so that's what was that joke from Deltarune about!

It applies to women too.

Read Elliot Rodger's manifesto, he was chasing after 11/10 Stacys and pissing off their Chads all the time. His life was hilarious.

Turns out if you make a joke series people will take it as a joke
the whole thing is really not serious in the slightest, and I remember someone made a chart of all the girls Rance has "raped" and like it turns out like 90% of it or something like that was consensual.

it's crazy to me that there's women reading porn in public and its celebrated, meanwhile if there's even 1 attractive character in my video game im a degenerate coomer.

I've noticed that every time the player is presented with a choice in Sengoku, every time you act like you think Rance would, you're basically punished for it.

Throw Ashikaga's threats back in their face

Congrats buddy! You're in a war with 2 factions, and only starting game units. You might have enough units to fend off 2 attacks AND take 1 territory per turn, if you're really fucking good.

Choose "rape" ever

You probably just permanently fucked yourself out of a recruitment opportunity

Or, alternatively, confess that it's love and connection they want first and foremost and not sex.

This gives women the ick if you aren't a chisled greek god they weren't already interested in, and even then they just want to get ravaged for bragging rights to their friends and nothing more so honestly it's mostly a pipe dream even for Chads

Even gay culture isn't an escape from the hell of human relationships. Maybe people are just evil and hateful by nature.

Is this why you posted the pic from a rape VN? Not even of the actual love interest?

the premise of it was always understandable, it's just fucking shit

Sex is by far the most evil concept in existence. The fact that life itself exists through sex just proves that life is flawed.

The act of sex gives human beings a tremendous amount of pleasure. Pleasure they DON'T deserve.

No one deserves to experience so much pleasure, especially since some humans get to experience it while some are denied it.

When a man has sex with a beautiful woman, he probably feels like he's in heaven.

But the world is not supposed to be heaven.

For some humans to actually be able to feel such heights of heavenly pleasure is selfish and hedonistic.

Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with.

That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence.

If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring.

This will cause humanity to become even more deprived with each generation.

Women have more power in society than they deserve, all because of sex.

There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.

Women are like a plague. They don't deserve to have any rights.

Their wickedness must be contained in order to prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy.

Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.

They hated him because he spoke the truth

Women act like indians in public. Reading porn and masturbating on the bus/train.

i'm so afraid of touch i am unable to save anyone or myself in an emergency if it required physical contact

playing captain save-a-hoe to a childhood friend who's gotten gangbanged 24/7 since you left her, then fixing her life as she "settles down" with the nice old friend she used to know but never had a relationship with

lol you can tell this was written by a woman because it unironically reads like a straw-man seething shitpost about the "cock carousel" posted on r9k

It's seriously bizarre

I don't really have much VN related images.

that's normal and a good thing in modern society
if you try to help a woman you risk going to prison for sexual assault

The original post made me check the book out. It then made me irrationally angry because it was written so badly, but the premise is exactly what I wanted - a kind of 'reverse gender roles high school vampire drama/romance'.
The ending is trash. The pacing is all over the place. The main character, Bau or w/e his name is, is a total doormat and a charisma vacuum too.
Bottomline, skip it. it's not wort it. 4/10

Could be a man. Fantasy novels are filled with this sort of thing - and outright cuckoldry - so it's not even a jap problem. If a guy accepts being a loser, those are the kind of fantasies he'll have.

No. If you know Jap woman authors you know they would never write anything like that. And even Jap men would not write anything like that because they tread carefully with jealous Jap women.

There wouldn't be any lovey dovey element to it, and she wouldn't be "fixed" or settle down at all. She would be irredeemable and probably used to prop up some other woman

Shit written by/for women always has some "Stacy" character who goes after the same guy as the plain girl and gets relentlessly shit on and humiliated. And guess what? 90% of stories are written to appease these jealous women

There are definitely men who fantasize about "fixing" that kind of girl. But they're simps. And a woman would probably take them for granted.

I hear this is translated to some extent:
vndb.org/v4041
It's perfectly purefag in every route. The horniest heroine has somehow become an ntrfag icon but none of this is in the game even a little bit.

>Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with.

>That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence.

What is Elliott's definition of a degenerate men?

You can't just deny people a freedom they have. Humankind is trust and consent based. Autonomy, vocation and free will should be honoured.

I just want a chubby dork gf...

lmao thanks for helping me

but I'm dating a cute rich guy, so later

we're gonna go fuck in the penthouse of a hotel btw

yep

who's gotten gangbanged 24/7 since you left her

why are you lying? she was fucked once and it was a gangrape.
the skank getup is her coping with being helpless.

Humankind is trust and consent based. Autonomy, vocation and free will should be honoured.

Is it though? In practice it's mostly about dominating others, oppression, coercion.

the skank getup is her coping with being helpless.

irl abuse victims also often end up coping by becoming turbosluts so they can convince themselves it's fine they got raped or in some vain attempt to reclaim ownership of their body. doesn't mean it's not gross and a red flag

Autonomy, vocation and free will should be honoured

Women will test how much they can get away with exactly like children, anon. Best we can do is "paternalistic liberalism", except some version of feminism will likely break it, too. Literally just happened.

dominating others, oppression, coercion.

The difference between living in an utopia or experience a neverending nightmare

If both of us are right we can't do anything about any of this.

Oppression and coercion had been seen as a negative even by tribal societies throughout human history. Those things happen, but they are tolerated when they occur as an inevitability, not celebrated as virtues. Bad things happening doesn't mean that they are welcomed.

Every romance story written by a Jap is "brown haired tsundere vs blonde/pink haired genki"

not celebrated as virtues

Well, then there's the fact that people can be beaten down until it's just widely accepted that they're simply inferior and powerless. People internalize these things. And really it doesn't seem that hard to make people hate themselves, there are so many systems in place dedicated to just that purpose

My feelings after seeing women talk honestly on TikTok

You can't just deny people a freedom they have.

You can actually. Very easily.

Especially women love to have men make decisions for them. For most of civilized society's history up until maybe about a minute ago, the father of the house would decide with whom his daughters would marry.

This new age bullshit of being sex positive only benefits men who dont want to take responsibility.

Pretty much any feminist will agree to this if you scratch them enough. Most of feminism is performative and most women will readily admit to it if they feel conformable around you.

Feminism isnt really real as a political movement. Its just a set of jargons and 0latitudes that dont hold up under any real world pressure or scrutiny.

What's really damaging is thinking "conservative" women are any different. They'll throw the Bible at you and scream at you to be a "real man" (do what they want) and they'll recoil at the motion of ever being submissive to their husbands.

Why would they? Their husbands are just church dorks who were socialized into being a doormat. Lots of churches nowadays are very female pandering.

i mean if you really think about it, we're all trash man. think about what if your parents or work saw the stuff you post online. it's significantly worse if you have your real name right out there and you're saying some heinous shit though lol

Nature literally doesn't know what egalitarianism is nigga. Neither do the women, they literally can't comprehend the idea. It doesn't mean societies have to be oppressive, but it does mean it should be fucking obvious who the boss is.

Whatever subgroup of degenerate you come from, this never existed.

You're saying that guys just wanting to be hugged never existed?

my mind is ruined by anime so I don't really find real women that attractive even if they're 10/10 by normalfag standards, it doesn't matter as long as she doesn't look like an abomination

Oh oh sorry, getting GANGRAPED since you left her

Feminism isnt really real as a political movement. Its just a set of jargons and 0latitudes that dont hold up under any real world pressure or scrutiny.

I never said a word about feminism. I just said that when you treat people equally regardless of race or gender, they have their own autonomy respected.

If it's useful or helping society isn't the focus of giving them control over their own life's, let them throw it all away. It's their decisions.

I think your dogs autistic.

When anons say stuff like this, abomination means having elbows too pointy -2/10 or having a 2 inch tattoo behind her knee

treating people equally doesn't work because they're not equal and never will be

tfw no werewolf gf that fights vampire girls over me

Then we always get ruled by someone.

These boys make me legit worried about the future of the country.

I think what's saddest about me is that I have my wires crossed in a wrong way that makes me believe that femininity is able to be a positive trait, that a feminine person can also be capable and respectable and powerful even.
But no. That's wrong. Being feminine only means someone is lesser as a person. It means they're weaker. It means they're morally wrong as a person. It means they're less than a person and little more than a punching bag.

And if a man so much as has a face, then he too is less than human, made to be raped by other men.

You can't just deny people a freedom they have

Just playing devil's advocate here but from the Supreme Gentleman's point of view women aren't people

appeal to nature

We are a part of nature, so all that we do is natural, including abstract concepts such as justice, recompense, and virtue. And you're also wrong, even a dog can tell when it's being treated unfairly. Look it up.

There always comes a critical mass after enough oppression takes place and the resentment builds up. Self hatred is still hatred and hatred has a habit of boiling over.

It's possible not to show anyone contempt unless they're criminals, that's kind of like "treating everyone equally". Also nether Marxists, nor feminists, nor wokies actually mean it, it's just a tactic for when their movements are weak.

I just said that when you treat people equally

A complete fantasy that no one adheres to.

You dont treat children like you would an adult. Women are similar.

I cant parse whatever the fuck youre trying to say inthe second paragraph but I'm sure it's some retarded shit.

Women should not have any autonomy in anything. Everything goes to shit when they do every single time.

imagine the warm cuddles

That's just Tsukihime.

Your original impulse isn't wrong, female attraction is always done in the context of ego validation. That's why rape and coersion are common topics in stories ostensibly about "romance", it's the fantasy of being considered so desirable that a man would expend significant resources and/or put his own reputation and freedom at risk to have you.

Self hatred is still hatred and hatred has a habit of boiling over.

Very true. And that's why I think masochists aren't exactly innocent, even if they technically consent to it. It has an effect on others too.

Hyena-chan stinks!

I'm so used to being alone, I don't even know if I'd like it or feel uncomfortable with being touched.

dogs

You shouldn't have invoked dogs of all things, they too are pack animals. If you aren't a pack leader, the dog will start acting like an asshole. Despite the fact that the idiot doesn't know how to lead a pack, or how to feed itself, or anything. But it will act aggressively dominant because the human isn't being dominant. See how perfect the parallels are?

there's no werewolf in tsukihime

Because a man should be able to defend himself. Women by default cant. That's the whole reason they choose a man.

Either way if you can reasonably defend yourself physically it doesnt really matter how masculine you come across. Unless youre a faggot and you get off on men fucking you and if thats the case, good luck being respected. I dont envy faggots.

the modern world is dysgenic

Yeah, pretty accurate.

same, I just imagine it would feel nice

But Arc and Ciel are literally just Edward and Jacob fighting over Bella.

I am just saying there that any decency towards another fellow human requires you to let them choose their destiny. Their own way of life is something you can't decide for them. This is absolute.

He lived in the rich side of la and going after Hollywood nepo babies
Guy could have settled in any asian country and get about 8 different wives

wtf literally me.

it's the fantasy of being considered so desirable that a man would expend significant resources and/or put his own reputation and freedom at risk to have you.

I don't know. I would say it's more about avoiding responsibility. Plus just showing that the guy isn't a pussy with icky things like human feelings.

It would feel like nothing. Because it's all insincere and a woman is incapable of having those feelings.

The parallels are really quite insane, since you are likening intelligence of half of humanity to that of a dog and simultaneously torpedoing your argument at once, since a dog can understand the concept of a fair or unfair punishment.

Why is Lacroix telling me to kill Tomoko? Does he not know that I would always do the opposite of what a camarillafggot would demand of me?

No, bitches like this sort of thing. Women were treating workplaces like a dating show for a time (70s-80s), and a man takes a risk by going after a co-worker, so.

I wouldn't be surprised. Humanity has built up so many romanticized ideals of the human experience, but it's all just a fantasy. Reality is never that clean and nice.

women are less intelligent than dogs

He was also from a rich family and had a fuck ton of money, his own apartment, and luxurous sport car at the age of 19.

From a materialistic point of view, Elliot had literally everything. The problem lies in the fact that Eliot didn't have emotional support, friends, acceptance, or a sense of belonging. He was on the first floor of a hierarchical pyramid of human needs. He was lonely, depressed, mentally ill, and trapped in a never-ending existential crisis. If (You) were loved and accepted by literally anyone, then you were more privileged than Elliot ever was.

He was unable to make any friends or find any purpose in life due to not only being way too spoiled but also because of being extremely socially awkward and shy. Most of that can be attributed to his pathological childhood. Ever since he was born, his mother has been telling him that he's the most special person in the universe and that the entire world exists for the sole purpose of serving him. It led him to develop an extremely autistic, self-absorbed, and ego-centric mentality. He believed from a very young age that because he was born so special, everything needed to be served to him on a golden platter. When boys or girls his age didn't approach him first, then he interpreted that as being actively rejected. His mother had no interest in raising him properly and had no problem with her son growing antisocial and spending 8 hours a day every day playing video games alone in his room.

His father was arguably even worse. He not only didn't give a fuck about the consequences of divorcing his old wife and moving to another end of the world, but also generally viewed Eliot as an animal pet instead of son. He never tried to listen to him, reach out to him, or understand him. Every single time Elliot mentioned anything about being depressed, lonely, or having no clear goal in life, his father simply threw money at the problem in hopes that it would go away. That's just the short of it

People are depressing

my mom had a hard pregnancy with me. I got stuck in the birth canal and she had to have a c-section. the doctors said she could always have another child, but she made them bring her paperwork that in the event of it coming down to saving her or saving me, they would save me. she got pregnant again 4 years after I was born and lost what would've been my sister due to a tubal pregnancy that they didn't have the medical technology to correct at the time. I help take care of her now that she has parkinson's and other health issues. she means the world to me. not every woman out there is incapable of love.

It's almost like there's some kind of sinister outside force that's been working to drive a wedge between men and women in order to subvert society and keep everyone in the wage cages or something

mother and child is the only form of unconditional love women can give (mostly sons, daughters are viewed as potential competition)

Basic bitch normalfag attraction is based on the simple fantasy of being adored

men want to be so beloved that they are certain a beautiful spouse would still be loyal

women want to be so beloved that the dangerous man becomes tame for her

Men want to be worthy of Penelope, women want Enkidu to fall for them

You literally didn't understand or address my actual argument, so I have questions about your intelligence by now. It's irrelevant that animals can understand "justice" and feel mistreated, they can't be separated from their herd instincts. Even men can only detach from them to a limited degree. Women can't at all.

Well that's only possible for their children, as their possessions and as extensions of themselves and their image. Because of instinct. But their friends, their romantics partners, their siblings? No.

This.

Bold of you to assume they want him tamed. They would get bored.

What they want is endless conflict.

That sinister force? Women's biology.

the woman doesnt want to be murdered the idea is he murders everyone else but treats her special and that special treatment is followed by "Maybe he will change for me" then "maybe i can fix him"

women's biology drives them to be miserable behind the counter at Shekelsteins all day

Sure kid

I wani hug that gator!

the woman doesnt want to be murdered

you only think that because you're a man and it doesn't make sense to you that she would want to be murdered

Even if tomorrow you could genocide every nose triber you'll still submit to your women out of fear and habit.

This.

a tamed bull can still gore someone to death

emphasis on can
(see estimated 73 million abortions every year, 200,000 per day)

Nice try but I think this based on my actual exs and watching scary movies with them and having female friends but you are free to stick to your idea that being murdered without any sexual release is somehow a top fantasy even tho what im saying correlates with all womens fiction you can read.

archive.org/details/MumkeyJonesElliotRodger/#2 Elliot Rodger's Epilogue_ The Insane Ramblings of a Killer.mp4

my dad treated her like trash for years, and when she eventually divorced him to come live with me while i was taking care of my grandpa (her dad), she held no ill will towards him. the divorce judge gave her the option to take the house or vehicle, but she didn't want to do that to him, despite everything. after a while, he asked for forgiveness and they became friends again afterwards, talked regularly on the phone for years up until he passed last year. she's a very devout christian and always goes out of her way to help people as much as she can, despite not having much herself. I guess she's just 1 of a kind.

There are stories of women betraying their children in favor of their man all the time though, whether it's straight up giving the kid up for adoption because the man doesn't want them around or letting the kid get abused by the man, sexually or otherwise.

Both are bad, but both are also good, I'm conflicted. I would like a woman that loves me enough to put me above even her children. But then I feel disgusted and feel bad for the child when I see women do it otherwise. Hmmm... well it doesn't really matter.

If you look at something like Inuyasha and the tropes it established though it's just excuses so the women can endlessly be justified in beating the shit out of the guy

my dad treated her like trash for years

There are stories of women betraying their children in favor of their man all the time though

And you know that's the submissive nature at work. Just crumble in the face of power

I salute her, nice woman

Instinct only activates when they're looking at the actual baby. At the level of an abortion, they don't give a fuck. Maternal instincts aren't moral or abstract concepts.

I've hugged a few girls and they all felt like nothing except for when I hugged my sister

Having grown up around jews hes actually not far off from how rabbis think about and discuss women kek

and you've got women killing their babies after they're born on top of that
if the average man knew what SIDS really was, there would be no "women's rights"

submissive nature at work

The way I tell it to myself is they respect power. If a man doesn't have any power, there won't be any "submissive nature" either.

if the average man knew what SIDS really was

SIDS is an actual legitimate condition, retard. Stop listening to Anon Babble faggots.

I need the webm of the mudshark mom hanging around a bunch of thug niggers that keep harassing her kid and the mom just says "oh get over it just go to bed or something sweetie". It's pure evil.

Yea. Sadly. It tells me that our culture really just respects rapists more than victims at it's core.

I was going for something else. Let's try it this way: if you don't respect power, you resent it. If you resent it, then you would avoid establishing hierarchies yourself and attempts by other people to do it would irritate you. This would be a "contrarian". And women simply aren't contrarians.

family, friends and coworkers can’t not grasp the fact that I’m still a virgin/ don’t have a girlfriend

claim I’m a handsome guy any girl would be lucky to have

because I have a masters, well paying job and barely any debt I should meet the expectations of most women

every girl I asked out has turn me down usually in a rude way for no reason

Going to be 28 next month, don’t know what I’m doing wrong or where to meet decent girls at this point
Dying alone won’t be bad hopefully

hold on tiger, do the vampire girls sparkle in the sunlight or combust?