Epic now has a 0% fee for all games until they hit 1 million in revenue
STEAMIES BTFO
Epic now has a 0% fee for all games until they hit 1 million in revenue
Still not using it
STEAMIES BTFO
steamfags get btfo routinely by gabe himself.
That just matches what they already offer from Unreal, and anyone still using Unity is going to stay with Unity, so it's a no brainer.
The latter part of that image is much more interesting, because that's creating a new market niche in which they have no competition.
Cool for devs but if that doesn't result in lower game prices then no one will ever give a shit
this already been leaked lol
epic is chasing the gacha market and the indie market
Well at least they're learning something steam is failing to
send a strongly worded letter to valve to let publishers to price games differently across different platforms
Legit question: How does this benefit me as a consumer?
if the ratio was 88/12 why all companies went to steam to pay 30% instead?
do it yourself, fag
you get to laugh at how desperate epic are if you're into that kind of thing
that's it
monopolies bad
The the problem was they weren't releasing it as a mod, they instead just include all the CSGO assets and hack the exe. This was done so they wouldn't have to release updates as often (i.e. laziness, that's it).
Why should I care about this as a customer? What tangible benefit does this provide me?
30% tax is absurd for developers
A game with a 30% tax VS a game with a 12% tax cost the exact same shit for the consooomer
Steam is objectively better if you fucking hate devs, simple as
?
But you already can if your game on the other platform doesn't use steam at all
What you can't do is selling steam keys of your games for lower price on different platform (which is what that overgrowth fag is trying to do)
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Surely that will be passed onto the customer and result in cheaper games right? The publishers won't just pocket the extra cash right? Just like they promised last time but this time for real?
Okay, now inform me of a third-party title that has seen success on the Epic store.
customers are not special people, you're not in control of what you buy, faggot. this is why boycotting does nothing at all
Reddit post
We all hate vidya devs here and I encourage all you tards to pirate instead, SPECIALLY tendieshit
100% of the 0 copies sold are still 0.
Alan Wake 2 wouldn't exist without EGS but IIRC it's just a massive money pit and I think it took them 2 years to break even which is fucking pathetic
It's just a shitty platform. Still not using it.
Steam has the audience, EPIC is the fortnite launcher, nothing more, the users on there don't buy shit, if it was as big as Steam it would be different
yeah it should be a higher cost, putting some pissant 4 developer game on the same list as the top dogs of the industry
you used to have to buy an ad in a magazine, hope people would buy the magazine, then either snail mail or call your singular phone line in order to negotiate a payment method, then buy some ziploc bags, print and assempt a manual, and throw it in with a disc and mail it, hoping they'd get it
and that was considered a successful enough business model to do again
today's devs are pampered by steam, steam is owed it
So it wasn't successful at all due to the store. In fact, it would probably have sold much better if it was also on other platforms.
Because Steam has an actual user base.
70% of a million sales is better than 88% or even 100% of ten thousand sales.
I'm not sure where it falls on the third-party ladder since Epic is directly publishing Remedy as exclusive to their platform (PC-wise) in the first place.
Okay, now make the game cost 30% less at launch.
Oh wait, they won't, just like what they did before.
Aren't you the console warrior for trying to get someone else to use software that they don't want to use? lmao.
okay cool
will games be cheaper?
get better bots timmie
How nice, now all those niche indie games won't have to pay any revenue share on the $0 they make on Epic.
You're not providing a convincing reason for me to move to EGS then Mr. Marketer. If you didn't get your degree from Delhi then you should know that the customer is always right in matters of taste.
Yeah it definitely would have but it's more that it wouldn't have existed at all without the EGS money being pumped into it
Yeah it does sound like a first party title in all but name
Woah, cool it with the antisemitism
Ok, I'll put my game onto Epic. Is uploading an exe free?
so you still need Steam despite already selling on Epic
ok ebin
No, because steams throws a hissy fit when the game cost less on a different platform. Without steam they might be cheaper.
As a customer I just don’t give a shit man
does this make games cheaper to buy???
n-no you see the devel-
then be quiet, fucking nobody cares about cuts this way or that way
Epic needs to fund more exclusives, it'll make more people move to EGS.
Just don't sell your game on Steam.
Okay
but consider the following
HOOOOOOOOOOHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Can you have profile pictures yet?
Can you talk to your friends on epic yet?
when the game cost less on a different platform
When Steam keys for that game cost less on a different platform.
Valve doesn't care what you do on other platforms if it doesn't involve Steam itself in any way.
customer is always right in matters of taste.
BAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
30% was the standard for ages across every front, barring rare exceptions. all these different publishers running off to their own storefronts and launchers wasn't because 30% was unfair, it was because they wanted 0%, all the profits, all the money, period. plus, as with everyone that continuously forgets, any company that sells well enough on Steam can negotiate the actual cut %, and none of them are actually speaking their negotiations publicly, so for all the touting about how bad the 30% is, odds are most of the big publishers aren't losing that much. ol' timmy is just a whiny cunt that wants to absorb the entire gaming industry into fortnite.
the only people that truly lose out are the nobody indies that can't get the publicity or make the money to break even.
steam is better if you hate devs
Read the room, jeez
customers are not important
developers and platforms drive the market
Tell that to the Epic store when they have to resort to this shit just to attract a customer base
tim already said they don't work
0%
Just like their playerbase
You don't need those features, tranny.
Yeah it means that Apple was able to convince customers that their products are worth adopting even if they are seen as overpriced. Apple did a good job there in terms of selling their products.
So tell me Mr. Ranjeet, why should I adopt the EGS platform and spend my money there?
okay so dont launch on Steam and offer cheaper games
doesnt explain still why Epic exclusives are 70$ still
Have you tried this
I hate developers
Moving on
Cool. Why would I buy it on egs though?
except epic exclusives are still epicly overpriced kingdom of hearts comes to mind
Steam is objectively better if you fucking hate devs, simple as
hello Valve i would like to buy 50 games please
claims to love devs
but chooses to give 30% of his money to Gaben instead
kek
If you truly love developers, then you shut the fuck up and buy everything on epic.
If you hate devs because you're not a corporation dick sucker, then you buy on steam or pirate because there's 0 reason to include an extra launcher
Simple as
And yet, indie developers will be greedy and won't give back even a single penny in the form of a discount.
tim is ugly and looks like a dog
gaben is not
i chose steam bro
I don't love developers so what's in it for me?
Yep, this is the main issue with epic's tax: it will never benefit (You)
retard.
Factorio literally cost less if you buy it directly from the devs own website
Developers don't get any of this money. It's all to the publishers that already paid the devs their paycheck and maybe their bonus. They won't see a cent of the actual sales, all that money simply goes towards whether a publisher will greenlight more DLC or sequels and other games from that studio.
Then you buy or pirate the game wherever you fucking want instead of participating in storefront wars
So if the devs get an extra 30% on the EGS, why aren't they making the games cheaper there?
They could make them 10% cheaper and still have that extra 20% for themselves.
Why aren't they doing this?
Developers don't get any of this money
So why aren't we just pirating everything then?
Ok I choose to spend my money at Steam and GOG and pirate stuff I can't find anywhere else. I don't think EGS benefits me as a consumer
Denuvo and no one but one person being able to crack it if they're paid really well. So the better question is why are you wanting to play any of it?
you retards STILL don't understand this quote, and you retards STILL can't give anyone a reason to start buying from epic
Exactly
If you buy on epic, the devs gets more money
If you buy on steam, gayben gets more money
The 12/30% tax literally only matters to redditors that want to support le wholesome indie devs because the price you pay is still the fucking same. Until Epic games are straight up 18% cheaper at all times, the cuts mean shit
How does this affect or help me as the user, Timmy?
Nobody trusts Epic for a second. No matter how desperate they are right now, there isn't a chance anything good they do would last the moment they stopped floundering.
they earn less for each game, yes. However, they inherently sell more for simply being on the more popular storefront.
Don't be rude to the Indian who got his MBA from Poo University with Magna Poo Laude
The problem with epic is that publishers are just better of selling directly with their own stores so they filled a niche that’s already filled fortnite kiddies don’t play EA games
Once again Epic proves that EGS puts publishers and developers ahead of customers, while Steam puts customers ahead of publishers and developers. That 0% fee does nothing for me as a customer; it will not result in lower prices, and it does not make my experience using EGS any better.
So you expect me to buy from Epic because its a better deal for developers and publishers
the same devs and publishers that
raise game prices 10$ yearly while giving fuck all in return
keep nickle and diming me with all kinds of low effort dlc
keep spiting me with shitty game design to own le epic chuds
and best of all, will pocket alln of the money instead of making games cheaper
consider the following
fuck the developer
fuck the publisher
fuck the industry
you have no idean the power i have, i dont consider a game a purchase, its a donation
do i like your game? i buy it
i own every means of complete ownership through piracy, and my games last way better and wont be removed because of licensing BS
if any dev is reading this, you better dance for me or ill get your game either way, wether you get my money is up to you
However, they inherently sell more for simply being on the more popular storefront.
And this is solely thanks to steam being a monopoly. You get sent death threats if you release a game exclusively on epic store
t. Randy's coworker
Epic now has a negative profits business plan like always
Great. Thanks. Fuck off, retard. The EGS is a money pit.
seems like they're setting up an excuse to stop development on EGS. prepare for the "update on the Epic Games Store" blog post next year.
youre a fucking retard, or a liar.
Steam only demands you sell STEAM KEYS on other marketplaces at the same price... which makes sense, why would you let people sell games from your service on another platform for cheaper? You have to foot the bandwidth and make 0 profit while also losing customers to a cheap steam key site.
You CAN sell your game for cheaper on another marketplace if the game is the game and not a steam key.
you can easily verify this before typing out your bullshit, retardfag.
Buy shit from lepic
Shit break
goes to steam forum of said shit to complain.
Tim is a genius.
No, Valve throws a hissy fit when publishers and developers request Valve generate a bunch of keys specifically for Steam, and then those publishers and developers resell those keys for less than what is listed on the Steam store page. If the developer or publisher generates their own keys they can sell them cheaper than Steam all day every day and Valve doesn't care.
Actual fucking bot kek
be egs shill
get btfo on Anon Babble every day every thread
How does he keep doing it?
failing to
What do you mean? Majority of indie hits start from Steam and besides Mihoyo tons of gachshit are unfortunately releasing on Steam now too.
Steam keys
So how come sites like GMG, GamersGate and Nuuvem have better price than Steam?
Good for them. But nothing changes on the consumer side anyway, so why do we even need to care?
Fortnite cash cow is rapidly dying
Decide to piss away more money because...fuck you Gabe!
100% of 0 is 0.
apple at the top of the list
timmy bros I thought we wonned in court...
They admitted like either last year or the year before that between the bad exclusives deals, the dumb shit with EGS and the costs put into it and so much other crap, it would take until 2027 to recuperate the losses and start turning a profit again, and meanwhile this means all of their actual profits are coming from Fortnite and Unreal Engine development/licensing. Like, it's actually kind of baffling how poorly equipped Epic was for even attempting to handle all of this and how even 8 years onward they still have no idea what they're actually doing, since they're also blowing hundreds of millions of dollars on bad Fortnite decisions like their Metaverse flops and giving millions of dollars to people spamming Red vs. Blue and Tycoon slop.
Meanwhile Sweeney's over on Twitter still bitching about Valve's 30% being evil as if it affects him somehow, and proclaiming that he's gonna put Fortnite skins in Roblox and Call of Duty, that Roblox is so big, Fortnite's gonna be as big as Roblox! .. at their lowest player count ever during a Star Wars mini-season that no one likes. They're not gonna combust, Fortnite's too strong for that, but they've seriously lost the plot and hit the nitrous to fly right off the reservation.
they still prefer to shower this store with Fortnite money instead of just making an actual good alternative to steam
cool, nobody care.
And nobody gave a shit about it
1.6 is better
Fortnite got MOGGED by Roblox.like completely.
Bro just make a good app it's not hard to make a good store front and yet after 5+ years Epic is still unable to do it.
lmao so Epic just won't make any money from the store? I doubt many games, if any, will sell that much on EGS.
Probably currency exchange rate stuff. Steam can't do anything if publisher decided to set cheap price on some regions without region lock.
Don't care. Still only using Steam and Itch.io.
I regret buying game from the Epic. I bought Nier because of their massive discount deal, and the game literally crashes to desktop every ten minutes.
When I searched for a fix, it directed me to steam thread where I had to download some mods from the steam workshop which then asked me to log in with a Steam account.
Epic are no different than CD key store now with zero support or discussion when shit happen to games you bought.
I don't understand what kind of retard would support this retarded scam store.
epic shills still lying about steam
publisher can absolutely use a different prices, the restriction is only about steam keys.
Gabe Newell is my friend and he cares about me.
They never made any to begin with. The entire EGS plan was a money pit, proclamations of exclusives and special deals where they'd throw tons of money at things and see virtually no returns. The exclusivity deals were literally
okay you only publish on our storefront and take 0-10% cuts (depending on time frame), and we'll pay you up front for like, 500-600k's worth of your game's price point
Turns out if no one buys your shit past that initial deal, that isn't enough to even hope to pay for a AAA game; the Metro Exodus devs were fucking pissed about Deep Silver forcing them into the exclusivity deal at the last minute only to see it be worth nothing but the scathing hatred of the Steam players they had to cancel pre-orders on. The plan at best would work for small no-name indies with no backing whatsoever, and those aren't what Epic is actually getting big exclusivity deals with.
makes epic account back when (wanted to check out some game I dont even remember, atomicrops I think)
*password incorrect*
'huh I dont remember making an epic account... but I must have done years ago, whatever, let me reset the password'
get in
go to buy game
use card, DO NOT save the card (this will be important later)
some weird errors come up, need to verify account
account verification demands ID, including... passports?
account registered to taiwan or some shit... huh?
contact epic and ask about it
no reply
look into it
turns out epic decided not to have BASIC security, not even as basic as EMAIL VERIFICATION
this means anyone who has your email from some leak or whatever, could register an account and wait
bunch of 3rd worlders buy up emails, register on epic with zero security or e-mail verification, and wait for kids to inevitably want to play fortnite or buy v-bucks
then they take your saved card info, and steal your money
this banks on you assuming "i must have made the account years ago and forgot" and not checking the account itself after
2FA is one thing, but email verification is just so fucking basic to include.
contact epic again, demand closure of the account, and explain the scam
no reply
check my other email, just to see
sure enough, already registered to the same faggots
3 months later get an email that epic opened a ticket
6 months later, get the same email
never got a reply
never got the account closed
had I saved my card info, some 3rd worlder would have been spending away or selling the card info, and epic did nothing.
I dont care that they 'fixed the issue' a year later, they failed so hard originally why would I trust them with my data?
I bought a game on Epic once and it had a dogshit update.
I wanted to rollback but couldn't.
Apparently if I got it on Steam, there was a feature where you can choose old builds of a game to launch. Actually unreal how dogshit EGS is.
They're also doing a 20% cash back promotion now on every sale. They're pissing away millions of dollars for no good reason.
post source for that piece of info
The cashback saves them more money than the coupons. Now those were real moneysinks.
FPBP
they will do absolutely everything except make their store not shit. You gotta commend the sheer dedication.
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
I WILL NEVER USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN STEAM BECAUSE... BECAUSE GABEN IS BASED OKAY????? ALSO ALL MY LE HECKERINO EPIC ERPING TRANNY FRIENDS ARE ON STEAM TO!!!!!
EXTREME cringe. I literally do not give a fuck on which platform a game is.
0% fee on $0 in sales is still $0
cheaper prices
you see, Fortnite stuff is atm 20% cheaper on Epic Games Store than anywhere else
Valve on suicide watchj
I use Game Pass and GOG. I'll never use EGS.
Because Steam has a monopoly and abuses its monopoly power.
that's why games aren't cheaper elsewhere.
Not even self-made games on GOG.
What has Epic done to improve Linux so that the average gamer can escape Windows?
but gaben is based
if he wasn't he'd tell you to stay on windows like a good lil goy
you're not in control of what you buy
Last I checked there are no laws yet that force me to buy games
they will, as soon as Valve got BTFO'd by court order.
Right now it's already the case for Fortnite stuff, compared to all other platforms.
Very weird ey, that neither Nintendo or Snoy do such crap. Only Apple and Valve.
hey timmy, how about you improve your dogshit store?
why would I pay for a lease to establish my juice shop on the most popular street in town when I can set up a lemonade stand in my driveway for free?
They haven't issued a C&D to Heroic launcher yet I guess.
The entire thread just shitting on epic
This means people will only use steam
Quite literally the only post in this thread to say anything close to the strawman you imagine explicitly says they use another store too.
I just fought Apple for you, you stupid bitch ass.
I literally do not give a fuck on which platform a game is
So devs should just put their games on both and I'll buy it on Steam.
so two more weeks?
point out in the steam ToS where it says you can't set your prices differently on other platforms
I literally do not give a fuck
If you didn't give a fuck then you'd be using steam because it has the most games and the best QoL
the lawsuit is real, Steamie.
and it's hilarious that you pretend that it wouldn't exist.
Making your money black hole even denser
Timmy just loves losing money it seems.
How about you post source to prove steam doesn't allow different prices across different platforms first?
inb4 steam keys
Devs can price their game lower on egs if they want, valve doesn't stop them doing that
They bought Easy Anti-Cheat and blocked Linux development for several years until it could get integrated with Epic Online Services. Oh wait I thought you said how did Epic hinder Linux. My bad.
It just reeks of desperation.
QoL
lmao
crashes and burns
even worse on the ShitOS deck.
source
lawsuit info here inb4
reeeee
its been years, how many weeks we need to wait until they add forum or actual user review to game store page so people stopped using steam whenever your shit game break.
crashes and burns
I have had maybe a single technical problem with steam in 12 years
haha yes! now surely this time we will get those cheaper games?
do you figure these people literally dream about fellating gaben when they sleep
I use itch.io for gay furry games and Nintendo's eshop for Nintendo games. Not my fault Epic gives me zero incentive to use their shitty-ass store.
Might as well put it under the same category as that one Nintendo lawyer posting on twitter that "Do not show me fan creations or I am forced to C&D it by my contract."
stop lying, Steamie
Defeating Apple took 4 years, 4 months and 17 days
Valve is next
tick tock
yes
This lawsuit?
I wonder how much of this is Epic shilling and how much of this is Steam bashing. Because they can be separate and all, but literally every single time someone tries to go for a zinger against Valve, it's bitching about Gabe Newell and acting like some high and mighty whitey fighting to enlighten the savages beneath their station.
Lying what?
I bought Nier from Epic and when shit break there's no discussion thread in their own store ecosystem, while google direct people straight to steam.
And you asked why people still using steam instead of epic shit
Not trolling here, are you just shitposting or just plain retarded?
Great! I can't wait! I remember being promised cheaper games due to a lower cut but even then, games exclusive to the EPIC store was still the standard price. This time will be different I can feel it.
no
gamesindustry.biz
He added that Wolfire's complaint lacked allegations supporting what it had called Valve's "coercive practices [resulting] in non-price antitrust injuries, namely a reduction in output and quality."
"If anything, the facts provided by the [Class Action Complaint], at least with respect to output, suggest the opposite -- a consistent increase in the number of games available in the market and on the Steam platform," the judge said. "The CAC does not provide facts describing how Wolfire directly suffered from an alleged reduction in output and/or quality. Instead, it only addresses the impact on the industry."
reminder there are paid shills that defend Valve here amogus
pic related, me running after exposing them
lol, good luck timmy
If i could I'd buy all of games from GOG
But since publishers are greedy kikes that hate me and want to force DRM Steam is my second best option
shopping cart yet?
muh Google
leftie detected
i appreciate tim fucking over apple but if he wants to compete with steam he needs to lower the prices and have actually good sales on the store
steam hasn't had good sales in like a decade, most of the keys i buy i do so on third party sites
oh wait, you just shitposting.
okay, I conceced.
2027 was what APPLE assumed during the courtcase and even that was a "2027 when pigs will fly and hell freezes over".
getting cancer is my 2nd best health option
timmy does retarded business decisions that he couldn't sustain without fortnite money
lol
It's good that steam gets compeititon, especially how bloated it has become. Just kinda iffy how strong the Chinese investments are. I ain't gonna put a single dime towards them until they stop preparing a hostile takeover and genocide of Taiwan.
do you fear god enough to fear the left handed
Well, not anymore I guess it doesn't exist anymore lmao
inb4 reee
Lol
Lmao
Now returning to what we were talking about, feel free to point to where steam prevents devs from selling cheaper on egs, go ahead, I'll wait
no, socialists are not dangerous, they are weak and pathetic, just like Valve
i ignore evidence created by Valve
you are retarded, got it
Your real life must be boring as fuck if you need 4chin just to feels better.
installing linux is like moving to canadia
Projection
Wolfire were given 30 days to amend their case, address the dismissal's criticisms and supply additional evidence. This they did, adding sufficient context to the original claims that, in May 2022, the court found that aspects of the antitrust lawsuit could move forward. In July 2022, a court order also confirmed that Wolfire's suit would be combined with another, similar antitrust lawsuit against Valve brought by multimedia production and VR company Dark Catt Studios.
Fast forward to today, and GamesIndustry.biz reports that the combined suit has been recategorised as a class action suit. A class action suit is, broadly, one brought on behalf of a group of absent people, going beyond those actually in court. In the event that the plaintiffs win, everybody in that group of people stands to benefit. There is an absolute world of finickity legal detail within that hazy definition, mind you, even if you confine your attention to the laws of a particular country.
Article name is
That lawsuit against Steam’s 30% cut of game sales is now a class action, meaning many other developers could benefit
if you want to search for it yourself.
source on this "evidence"?
Oh that evidence exists does it? I can't seem to find it in their publisher agreement, could you give me a line number, or section heading to look under? I guess if you can't then that must mean it doesn't exist, I'd have to conclude that you are full of shit if that were the case
just because you retards failed to boycott Hogwarts Legacy doesnt mean boycotts dont work lol.
try NOT buying the game, next time.
*like moving into CHAZ
But seriously, does anyone actively using epic store outside of getting freebies?
I don''t see any benefits from it.
private communication from Valve doesn't count
lol
bot lol
I still don't understand what uncle Tim meant by that
that's completely fucking retarded and just shows how utterly detached timmy is if he can make shit like that
steam had to grow naturally and it's using industry standard practices
timmy is using his fortnite babby blood money to experiment with absurd shit that could never support itself
this retard would genuinely be better off if he stopped trying to run this chum bucket unprofitable shit and just pocketed it
i've collected god knows how many free games and i've not used the system to install any of them, both because it tends to break a lot and because it feels like the games will just fuck themselves at any point arbitrarily like how ubisoft's launcher breaks its own installs regularly.
That's pretty good.
grow naturally
trick retards into buying physical Half-Slop 2 and then forcing them onto an online DRM (box didn't say anything about that)
choose one
If I can buy a game directly from a developer, I will do that.
If I can buy a game on GoG... well it depends if it is an old game and money goes to a company collecting cheques from 20+ year old games they had no part in, if not I will do that.
If I can buy a game on Steam, I wait for sales or when any additional DRM is cracked since steamworks is so fucking easy to crack. Still under the same criteria as GoG though.
Failing all that, yohoho and a bottle 'o rum.
Nope. i am a human poster, anon, just like you.
Be Tim Sweeney
Have an infinite money glitch in Fortnite
Give away 40% of your money to fund Roblox-lite slop
Business genius coming through.
do you think even 0.1% of its current users are using it because of half life 2 20 fucking years ago?
This is bullshit because BRK has way more cash on hand than Apple and did even all the way back in 2015, when this chart was made. JPM has more cash on hand than that whole chart combined. Statista proving once again that they're hacks and provide nothing but disservice.
Bring back Unreal Tournament and I'll consider using your store, Timmy boy.
No one is buying indies on Epic. This shit means nothing.
I don't even know half life exist 20 years ago, the only thing I know about steam logo was from Counter Strike on private server.
An email from some literal who at valve saying "please keep things fair for the customer" is evidence that valve doesn't allow devs to price their game differently on different platforms
It's like you tards have never heard of humble bundle
EGS doesn't take indie games. It's just giving publishers 0.12m to keep them on board. Probably less than exclusive deals.
infinite money glitch
that's the Valve parasite, that sucks indies dry
Fortnite actually takes tons of work, unlike Valve who are letting retards create low quality shit for them and then sell that shit and grab most of the profits
Most Steamies are old retards, who know that they got fucked but don't want to admit it.
What am I looking at?
sucks indies dry
aka the same amount as everyone that isn't timmy throwing his weight around with money gained from fortnite skins
They change their pricing too much to be invested in. They could increase prices and fuck games.
Plus they don't let programmers use correct terms. As not to offend parasitic rape monkeys.
Single core and stutter is also a big nono. Engine tries to look realistic inatead of good.
Man this thread is boring.
Okay still prefer a functioning store over timmy tencents store
Emails from Valve literally telling (threats) developers to either jack up the price elsewhere, or get booted off the store
that's irrelevant
kys shill
Fortnite actually takes tons of work
steam is an online lootbox casino for children
same amount
why do you keep on lying, Steam shill?
see the OP, you retarded dumb ass?
Epic takes 0% until you reach million(s). Therefore it's indie friendly.
Meanwhile ((Valve))) does the opposite and takes most from indies, while taking less from the millionaires.
you can say things but it doesn't mean they're true
now if you were saying that counter-strike specifically maybe, but you didn't
When will Timmy learn that customer is king and nobody gives a fuck about how much the tranny devs make?
holy shit you can't fucking read
imagine btfoing yourself with your own post
Cool as a customer I don’t care lol
compared to Valve-slop yes.
They just had a Star Wars month, with tons of Star Wars content. All for actually free. With free unlockables too.
Unlike Valve, who would consider that too much work.
Therefore it's indie friendly.
Okay but do they actually help indies sell?
That's a sample of Fortnite's Creative map browser after Epic introduced UEFN (Unreal Editor For Fortnite), a more advanced modding tool than what map makers previously had, and started paying map makers based on playtime. If you want to look for a not-completely-shit map you have to trawl through dozens upon dozens of content farm maps like in that image, all copypasted from the same four-or-so base maps
most
Fuck you're delusional
egsjeets are actually fortnite zoomers
Valve does? with all that AI slop in the store?
Valve is too lazy to do literally anything.
counter strike, and dota 2, and pubg, and tf2 aka the top 3 of steam playercount games at all times, steam makes money off of their lootbox casinos not by selling games
Deaththroes of a dying shithole.
Ironically that might've attracted publishers to their platformer during the launch but (((they))) gonna (((they))).
Fortnite actually takes tons of work
True. It takes a lot of work ripping off games like PUBG, Among Us and Counter-Strike while adding licensed characters you didn't have to create.
EGS doesn't even let indie dev put games on store at will. They pick their games.
well to be fair most new Steamies are Chinks.
Probably mentally retarded chinks.
Meanwhile Steam Next Fest is set to happen soon and bring a fuckton of visibility to a ton of indies.
And Anon Babble is enjpying it too lmao.
the most they made was a few new weapons, the aerial fighters, and a couple lightsaber powers that are just reused from other pre-existing items in the game, because everything else is reused from the past several years aside from Mace Windu and Jar Jar being new to the season. it's like 90% reused code and assets out the wazoo.
provide service with fee
fee is used for servers, development, more features etc etc
cycle works as intended
timmy meanwhile just use other sources of income to support the store
egs store is just a giftaway and for hoarding
his brain is really deep inside the cesspool
Timmy answer this man. Out of anyone on Earth, Tim has the power to make UE export to VK the default so that we can get native Linux binaries faster.
If Valve was actually consumer friendly they would release their own game engine (Source 2 SDK) to the public instead of a bunch of faggots relying on Unreal/Unity. And no, SteamOS is not a Windows replacement, stop overhyping this garbage.
Star Wars
You're too old to play Fortnite Grandpa.
I still don't see the point of this as a consumer and I doubt OP used epic store also.
Hell I doubt every single on of you in this thread considering EGS a good place of buying games.
If Valve was actually consumer friendly they would release their own game engine (Source 2 SDK) to the public instead of a bunch of faggots relying on Unreal/Unity.
Technically they did via S&Box, in a really stupid way.
nice try, PUBG runs like shit, these retards had a formula but instead wasted their millions on booze and hookers
Counter-Shitted
I don't see casino loot boxes in Ballistic, therefore it's objectively better.
And Valve will go down because of the casino gambling for minors, so Ballistic will win. Good.
Among Us
they removed that, but even had a Collab with Among Us. Cope Steamie.
well for example some weeks ago there was a cuthullu event thay promoted lovecraft games I discovered a cool base building indie and bought it. Epic is just dude free shit lmao
bait used to be believable
True. Thank goodness Epic curates their store so there's no AIslop.
but mr. Tim, we won?
Sound algorithm, but I'd pirate anyway after buying except for GOG or games that don't require launchers, or if the repacks are outdated. Launching every game straight from the .exe is something you get used to quickly.
so when a new game comes out will it will cost 55$ instead of 60$ that steam asks?
Don't give a fuck if not
the most
so you are talking out of your ass. Got it.
Thats great
Now
POST THE PLAYER NUMBERS. GO ON DO IT FAGGOT. FUCKING COWARD YOU WONT DO SHIT HAHHAHAHAAHA
So successful but you refuse to give live player numbers? Pathetic.
My god, it's like a child raised on Fortnite just acting like they know how things works.
Sounds desperate to me.
Never going to install another launcher, Timmy.
a platform being extremely popular does NOT mean its a monopoly
but but but Epic
all of a sudden, the Steamie cries out in pain.
no, go back to school.
$60 minus 20% is not $55, retard.
This was his answer
It's the opposite indie shit flops on EGS and sells on Steam. They're desperate.
Epic lets crypto games on their store with AI assets.
genuinely how is this retard still in charge
i severely doubt epic is making any money off the store itself and all his experimentation and insistence on its existence has undoubtedly impacted the bottom line
no one running an actual business that's not entirely kept afloat by an outside force could come up with this shit and think it's a salient business decision
devs get to publish games for free, on a storefront with some of the worst discovery options known to man
I was gonna write out a really passive-aggressive post airing out my grievances with Epic's storefront, but the UX really is just horrible and I wish they would address that instead of coming up with hare-brained schemes to try to steal business from Steam.
All games have gigantic cover images that a user is inclined to scroll past
This is compounded with the problem of their Genre tags refreshing the page every single time you add one on. You also need to specifically remove tags and it isn't readily apparent that you aren't just switching tags when you click on one.
Popular/Most Played/Upcoming/etc only display 5 games at a time, and they're sandwiched between a bunch of crap that I'm just scrolling past (the above problem)
Tag system on the right side of the screen when browsing games is actually a checklist. But you'd never know that until you get left wondering why no games are showing up after clicking through several tags.
Adding on to that confusion, it refreshes the entire page (snapping you back to the top) when you try to change your search parameters instead of just letting you apply them all at once, or at the very least NOT snapping you back to the top of the page
Like, why in the world would I want to publish a game on a storefront whose discovery options are just flat-out bad? The fucking Roblox store has a better UX than Epic's.
$60 minus 20% is not $55, retard.
wow, I save $12 instead of $5 then woooow thats so awesome
unlike you I'm not some poor third world wagie who is cheap
ARE YOU ACTUALLY USING EPIC STORE TO BUY GAMES OR YOU JUST ACTING RETARDED BECAUSE YOUR REAL LIFE IS BORING AS FUCK
WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME?
And I as a consumer should care about this because...?
Don't care, why I even should care in first place? This doesn't translate into better service or better prices for me. I buy where I find it convenient, I don't see any reason to be loyal to brand since brand itself does not care about me or anyone else.
b-b-but muh free games!
Pathetic.
I am asking if the game will be any cheaper, even a bit, assuming that most of the saving will go to the developers pocket, not stay in mine
It's actually horrid browsing EGS.
I could easily find a potentially new game I might like on Steam in a few minutes.
crypto game
what is that even supposed to be?
Is it similar to "Banana" the most played mature game on Steam-slop?
Epic Mobile Store
Kek, how many gacha games will EOS there?
Steam 30% includes fees for refunds
EGS does not
lol
No, the store is so shit even shitposter doesn't even care about it beside using as bait.
No one with their right mind will used EGS, not even retarded shitposter like OP.
I should save 95%
it's just $12 per game
lol Steamies on suicide watch
you're not in control of what you buy, faggot. this is why boycotting does nothing at all
The EGS loses $250,000,000 a year, if it wasn't for Fortnite making 4 billion a year the EGS would cripple Epic. The EGS loses more money than Unreal Engine makes.
fees for refunds
that are limited
don't use refunds OR ELSE
Signed, the fat bearded child fucker
How that does affect me?
Will the games be cheaper there?
When are the savings being passed onto me, though?
I'm better off buying shit on key sites than on Steam for much cheaper, and they have even higher overheads.
man, I wish I got paid to shitpost about "steamies" on chinese porn cartoon forum
You get to keep 100% of the 0 dollars that you make on EGS
None of this solves the core problem. And that is EGS being a dogshit store filled with shovelware, no QoL and constant issues in every corner.
release VR game on Epic
Epic has no VR support
buyers have to launch the game through Steam in order to get the VR working
booted off the store
ever mentioned even once
You lie like you breathe and you still have the audacity to call anyone else a shill? Fucking transparent
Can't help but notice that you STILL can't point to anything in the steam publisher agreement that says price parity is necessary for anything other than steam keys, funny that isn't it
Shut the fuck up Tim.
OP doesn't even game on pc. He never posted any egs or steam screenshot. Probably a nintendo fanboy.
Are the games cheaper now? No? Thought so.
they still haven't broke even actually
Granted that's most storefronts unless all you use is k+m or an xbox controller.
Steam input is godlike.
I bought DLC to a free game a couple times but that's it
ITT: consumers who think they're entitled to a good product
laughing at you fags
I lie and I don't read
Valve hires anyone to shill on here
100% of what?
Hey remember when lilttle Timmy tried suing Apple and they took fortnite off the app store, then the little rat came crawling back wanting to be on the app store
You could just used goldberg and got it for free, I get Iceborne completely free with working multiplayer.
So you'll be able to point to where they say they'll be removed from the store then?
So why don't you use it then op?
I'm out, this thread is just repeating the same shitpost in loop.
See you guys in other threads.
Fortnite
Meanwhile third party sales on EGS are in the gutter, and this number includes Hoyoslop.
Yeah man. It's not even a Steam vs Epic thing here though. The Epic storefront is just objectively worse in regards to UX than pretty much every other option to a laughable degree. It's like they hired the people that made Redbox's interface to design their store. I don't understand how a company with Fortnite money can fumble the ball with such a basic aspect of their platform.
yes.
The funniest thing about the free games is that it's attracting leeches that don't play games often instead of paying customers.
yes I "play" video games
no i don't own a bamham game or a gta game or a fallout game
The "Epic audience" are people that complain that $5 is too much for a game.
324m split between all those companies is fucking nothing. It's also unevenly split.
Most games on Epic make absolutely nothing especially if they also release their game on Steam at the same time - we are talking 99% Steam vs 1% Epic kind of difference. Most of the third party revenue being made here is through shit like Rockstar microtransactions or big paid timed exclusives like Dead Island 2 where players had no option but to buy on Epic.
But Epic ain't doing paid exclusivity deals anymore cause that was a loss business for them.
>I WILL NEVER USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN STEAM BECAUSE... BECAUSE GABEN IS BASED OKAY????? ALSO ALL MY LE HECKERINO EPIC ERPING TRANNY FRIENDS ARE ON STEAM TO!!!!!
this but unironically
cry more tim
Any minute now
Funny story by the way, Heard of Story is currently for sale on egs for less than it is on Steam
Weird how that works isn't it?
this game looks like shit, who gives a fuck
not boughteding it then
it truly is baffeling how no one at Epic thought of this
i know several people with EGS accounts
1 actually uses it regularly to play Fortnite
the others all use it as a free game storage , only logging in when Epic gives away something good
I use Steam , GOG and even got EAPlay/Origin installed.
Epic? I will never use because it somehow runs even worse than Ubishits store all while offering absolutely nothing of value,
GOG? Has DRM-free games, some old exclusives games and is generally a good thing to support.
EAPlay? Some games only exist there and you run titles through it on Steam anyway.
But EGS? Epic Game Store is just a way worse version of Steam and the only "exclusive" titles they got is trash like Fartnite or Fallguys. There is no reason to install it if you already are on Steam.
Courts looking to see if steam enforces price parity on other platforms will probably care
Lol
it doesn't count
fortnite
nice indie lol
The worst part is they could literally just copy Steam.
Epic has become the home of "Steamfags" that exclusively play f2p games and have 0 paid games on their Steam account.
it doesn’t no it’s creation club tier
324m is fucking nothing
lmao
companies
lmao
creators in fortnite creative are big business corporations
lmao
Epic giving out free games was the most retarded strategy to kick off their own store.
All you attract is a bunch of freeloaders who keep begging for more free shit - never spending a penny on the store.
Not only because they can't afford it but if you also give players 300 games to play - there is no really a big incentive to buy anything new as long as that big ass backlog pile keeps growing. Why would i buy Borderlands 4 on Epic if i already got Borderlands 1-2-3 on Epic for free and haven't even started them yet? Eventually 4 will be free as well anyway.
good, Valve deserves nothing but spit into their faces
freeloaders
Because of that I actually got Fortnite and I am now spending hundreds of dollars there.
So in reality it was a great idea.
buying DRM'd PC games unironically
lmao
buying PC games unironically when it's just a digital download
lmao
only losers would do that
How does this benefit me the customer?
oh but you the developer are encouraged to make gacha-shit games, we're sooo much better than google or apple
how utterly disgusting
please use our piss pot architecture with no users
cheaper prices, bot
Oh my god it's actually David (((Rosen))) in this thread isn't it
Basically I'm just not going to use the epic store
Pay falidevs what they deserve, chud
There are already games for sale cheaper on platforms other than steam right now, today, how will this change anything?
Except those people are worthless to both Gay Ben and Dimu Siweini? People that would rather die than spend a single dollar on the store.
false, Fortnite skins are actually cool.
DRM PC games are not.
they are homosexual.
Publishers and devs still refuse to reduce the price of the game by the 12% and now 0% fees like that bitch Timmy said devs would do
Who cares lol
timmy is losing for the same reason consoles are losing to pc
features
who gives a shit about the discount when in the end the experience is much better
Epic thread
Literally got nothing good to talked about epic for consumer
Spend talking about steam non-stop instead
So this thread actually a free marketing campaign for steam store?
Epic third party devs get 300 million split between all of them in a year
which is like a thousand publishers
Steam meanwhile makes over a billion a year on CSGO/CS2 alone
which is also more than the entire revenue of EGS including Fortnite on PC
This isn't even David vs Goliath. This is a galaxy scale difference we are talking about here. Steam is over 20 times bigger than Epic is even with all their Fortnite cash.
Epic players literally had to use Steam forums for tech support for their free games.
Oh nice, now everyone can give away their games for free until they've given away 1 million USD worth of free games
So Steam Keys?
Steam is objectively better if you fucking hate devs, simple as
Wtf? I love Steam now!
no
Steam sucks
Valve made nearly $200 million on CS2 last month. Like 6 weeks of CS2 sales is equal to an entire year of third party sales on EGS.
lets believe a bunch of retarded failures omitting inconvenient facts after wasting everyone's time for 8 years
But I got a bunch of AAA games way cheaper because of Steam Keys.
Trolling aside, that's really good. Healthy for the industry in general. Even as someone who thinks that it's gonna be hard for me to not use steam because it's built up such an ecosystem and feature set over the decades. Really hard to disrupt an entrenched online platform. But I'm glad there's competition in the PC space.
How does this help me, a gamer?
This benefits the consooomers how?
hey we saw that you are trying to circumvent the terms under which we give you virtually unlimited free copies of your game to be provided by us
please don't do that
So unreasonable
It's the cardinal rule of business: always expect payment. Even if it's notional, even if you don't really need it, even if The Ideas Guys say you should give it away for free. There's a deep psychological association with payment, even the smallest, with value. And when you give stuff away, you're telling your clients that your product is worthless. EGS is even worse. They're the middleman and giving away others' works for free, telling their clients' clients that the devs products are worthless. Not a great look for a storefront that needs devs to provide content.
You and that voice in your head both sound extremely unhinged, I think you should take a break from the internet
source?
I don't see Timmy talking about it
We're making some exciting updates to the Epic Games Store to provide an even better deal FOR DEVELOPERS
send a strongly worded letter to valve
Dearest Gaben,
Please continue doing nothing while you utterly shit all over the Epic Lame Store.
Buy a seventh Yacht and name it "Timmy's Lament". Cover it with Fortnite art and then sink it for fun.
Your pal, Anon
P.S. Save a Deckard for me, tubby
One of those was Dead by Daylight yes I know it's awful and I've since kicked the habit which doesn't work with unlockers
Bless those gambling addicted CS retards. Singlehandling funding Gabes fleet of yachts and the entirety of Steams development team
Reminder that even fucking indie devs/pubs tell people to buy games on Steam lmao. That's how little the 12% cut matters.
You might want to look up the actual results of that lawsuit.
Got free game from epic
game crash
Guess where I goes to search for a fix.
oh wow that sounds really serious! maybe all the fail devs should start a class action lawsuit instead of fronting one retarded furfag making claims that are verifiably untrue
epicdrone is so deranged he's arguing about cosmetic mtx now
It doesn't but if Epig gets a bigger market share then you can sleep knowing Pradesh and Ranjeet will regularly get better free games.
Kinda funny how the entire industry stopped doing lootboxes after all the backlash in the news looking at those Overwatch and Battlefront 2 scandals. Valve meanwhile keep doing lootshit in CS2 while also making bank with the illegal casino/gambling shit running in the background indirectly and no on really cares.
Gabe can truly do no wrong.
He could re-invent the slave trade and get away with it.
Epic trannies are completely demoralized. Even the devs are demoralized. Epic will NEVER amount to anything.
free marketing campaing for steam
paid by timmy himself
have faildevs ever benefitted after pushing valve to adjust the working systems?
give away your profits
win
damn steam is finished bros
EGS thread
endlessly seethes about Steam
Holy FUARK
Steam uses its dominance of PC game sales to distort the market and bury the competition, and in particular that the company's base 30% cut of revenue from each video game sold on Steam keeps overall game prices artificially high
How does this explain console games? Does Valve control those too? Are devs not able to set whatever price they want on Steam?
Bassed HH
fail to release anything in 8 years
actually it was valve forcing us to stop I swear
So these threads are why it took Wolfaggot games nine whole years to make their shitty game, perhaps the time would have been better spent developing that wet fart that they call a game
>endlessly seethes about Steam
Just like their boss.
Are devs not able to set whatever price they want on Steam?
yes
that's why even GOGs own games are the same base price on GOG as on Steam, which makes zero sense.
I got Steam cause I wanted to play CS in 2006
At some point I noticed they have a large amount of games on sale
Now all my games are there and it's just convenient to have them in one library, so I'm not switching
It really activates my almonds though why so many people are defending Epic and crying about Steam, something that never happened at this magnitude with GOG. Truly a mystery
They’re modders it’s like those bethesda modders begging for money
So, after almost 400 posts can someone tell me?
WILL THIS BE BENEFICIAL TO A CUSTOMER (me) AND HOW?
BASED Timmeh
this btfo the epiccucks
get HORSED
I swear, the more I read this thread the more it tell me I should avoid epic store to buy my game.
I dunno if this retard trying to stop people from using steam or encouraged them.
modders
begging
this is not Steam or Valve and you do not even understand what Creative actually is.
It's literally Unreal Engine 5 Light.
But really slavery needs to make a comeback. This kinda-sorta slavery that exists now where retarded immigrants get to live in my neighborhood so that landscaping and fast food can be cheaper is the least honest labor arrangement. Make them slaves and allow me to buy them for my own use.
even if the devs make more money with Epic copies compared to Steam copies they still tell you to buy the game on Steam instead cause of all the valuable data and discoverability you get over there
Damn, Epic is really worthless. Even with 100% of the money going to the devs its not enough. They really need to pay developers to put their games onto their store - too bad thats also a financial loss for them cause no Epic user buys shit. They are all freeloaders waiting for the thing to be free later.
No matter what Tim does - he loses.
Holy shit 2 more weeks until you get unraped, right steamie?
Devs are able to set their prices however they like when they aren't selling steam keys, and they already do, the whole lawsuit hinges on Steam's most favored nation clause which explicitly governs steam keys only, it's a complete nothingburger
ummm....Epicsisters??????????
Imagine avatarfagging for years and sucking off Gabekike like a dog.
TIMMY ARE YOU OKAY
ARE YOU OKAY, TIMMY
Imagine being an Epic pajeet.
You JUST got brutally raped in court, cuckbro...
I'm starting to think EGS only exists as ammo for that retarded lawsuit
epic went from bribing big devs for exclusivity to begging small devs to use it for its 0% tax
what a fucking flop of a store
maybe you should've trusted your gut timmy with all the console shilling and pc bashing you did in the past decade
yes, they can.
and then they get threats from Valve that their game(s) will be removed from Steam when they are cheaper elsewhere.
you don't even know what that means newfag
lmao where's your Cross Ange avatar lil bro?
That's so weird, how do you explain the games that are for sale for different prices on Epic and Steam? Do these alleged threats actually not exist?
Epic Games once again showing they are huge proponents of devs and still don't give a fuck about actual consumers using their store. Just ditch the store and go balls deep on their developer collective/ publisher thing. The store front is just trying to double dip on something but not even making an effort to make it appealing to consumers outside of bribing them with free games. Where's the workshop? Where are the forums? They want to compete against steam yet these are nowhere in sight.
Sick of this cope. Games that are not on Steam aren't cheaper, and the people who say this shit aren't taking their games off steam to protest this supposed immoral behaviour on Valves part.
Notice how Epic shills will never respond to this
on sale
not base price
How do you explain that all games are already cheaper on Epic, but only through the coupons loop hole and that shills like you ignore that fact.
A redditpost from a literal who? Hey, notice how Apple lawsuit threads suddenly stopped?
Roblox
Zoomers' game
Timmy really doesn't get what the problem with his store is.
There's a game linked in this very thread that has a different base price on Epic and Steam
Why don't they have a mod catalogue? Why don't they have a community? How can they claim to be competing with Steam when they don't offer any of the features that make people want to use Steam? Seriously, who's blowing smoke up Tim Sweeney's ass?
no it wont. devs wont lower their prices in turn, they will bag the extra cut themselves.
i like how he constantly says ''developers'' and not ''publishers'' pretending the average joe making games will actually profit of this
''h-h-hey boss me and the team just got word that you put the game on EGS instead of Steam, we think this might become a problem in the game reaching a proper audience
LOL EGS MAKES ME PAY ONLY 18% INSTEAD OF 30% FOR HOSTING WHAT A STEAL
''oh great, will we see any of that money?''
LOL FUCK OFF FAGGOT YOU ALREADY GOT PAYED
2 months after release
WTF WHY DID MY GAME FLOP ITS YOUR FAULT YOU ARE ALL FIRED
releases game on Steam anyways
many
such
cases
store.steampowered.com
One of the most successful indie publishers in recent years.
Customer? What's that?
Steam-GPT can't answer questions.
lack of paid mods and retexture lootboxes, judging by Gabenkike's initiatives
Seeing as you can't read it's linked right here Your response?
ue5 is pajeet garbage
Christ alive, speaking of shovelware...
Now he's going to pretend it doesn't matter and his point still stands
They're publishing Endless Legend 2
Cool beans.
I already pay 0% for Epic only games. There are no savings there for me so who gives a fuck.
fpbp
I wonder how much of this is Epic shilling and how much of this is Steam bashing
every epic shilling threads always come with bashing steam. it's a package deal
they're that insecure
d-d-doesn't count!!!11!!
These are never coming to Epic Games store because they aren't interested in actually competing with Steam. Their function is to be a puppet for Tencent in order to litigate American regulations and make their gacha games more profitable. Epic Games is just a shell organization.
Courts can already find plenty of examples of steam not enforcing price parity on the base price of games, its comparitavely rare but it does happen though only by around 10% of steams base price.
Enter the gungeon
Cheaper in GoG
Dead Cells
Cheaper in microsoft store and epic
What Remains of Edith Finch
Cheaper on gog
Darkest Dungeon 1
Cheaper on gog and epic
Epic died to me when they like to pretend the Unreal games don't exist.
good news about Epic
must shill Steam
must shit on Timmy
must shit on Epic
what a surprise
when 4chinks was down, all of that shilling stopped.
Very weird.
No one has answered how indies will get the 100% cut if no one buys shit on EGS.
Are those key sites? Valve doesn't seem to mind them. The issue is the developer/publisher selling steam keys for their own games for cheaper on their own site.
op has 1 line that isn't from reddit and it's bashing steam
Does Fortnite have the game "Doors" that's on Roblox?
Indeed, it really seems like this argument that steam enforces price parity doesn't have legs
The issue
Valve specifically said other stores, not their shit keys.
Even after all these years Epic shills still get mogged.
Sad.
Based, same thought
Yes, they are key sites. Thanks now I get it developers can't sell it on their own website. Valve still receiving from these keys sites, but they get 0 if someone buy it from the developer website. Thanks again.
Friendly reminder Epic had to pay a half-billion dollar fine for manipulating children.
have several games with thousands of reviews
general rule of thumb is to 4x or even 7x the amount of reviews to get number of copies sold because most people don't bother to leave a review
Against the Storm alone made millions, even after the 30% cut (which has certainly been lowered to 20% or more)
They've made bank selling shovelware? Nice
colors le bad
Valve's casino is le good
lol corrupt courts
they also didn't touch epstein, because he also provided intel.
hey, pajeet. denounce vishnu
70% of $100,000 is still higher than 100% of $20,000
$100.000
vginsights.com
Over 50% of indie games never made more than $4.000
lol
unless i start seeing $70 games on steam and $50 games on EGS i do not give a fuck
in 2025 vns are not even getting ps5 release forget about epic gay store lmao
Considering EGS sales are like 1% of Steam, those indies will be making 40 bucks.
Casual games are the worst genre in terms of revenue expectations.
OH NO NO CASUALSHITTERS??
70% of $4000 is still more than 100% of $800
Consider made up numbers
Even if I take that seriously, in both cases developer will go bankrupt lol
Call me when Timothy allows me to sell games I bought but no longer want in Epic Store
Call me when Timothy says that the game copy I bought in his store is actually mine
bankrupt developer in any case, in one case because Valve leeched it to death
Weird I thought Epic was going to be the savior of indies. Why are they still going bankrupt even when they put their games on EGS?
If only the epic store wasn't such a reprehensible pile of shit, then devs could sell more there instead
Consumers?
Playstation is dead bro. The only things people buy on that platform is GTA, CoD, FIFA and V-Bucks
Why would I use a clunky ass piece of shit when I got steam already?
because steam fucks you up if you don't offer price parity
read the thread
this is a shill / Steam-GPT bot
epic is the one desperately on the backfoot needing shills
steam wins by doing literally nothing
until they hit 1 million in revenue
? dont they just hit that in one day
Epic is this desperate to try and get even a fraction of steams userbase
lmao
And that's ok. If nobody wants your game and you're not making it for your own sake, then you shouldn't be making it.
by being a parasite and destroying indies and bringing more underage children into gambling
just to fund Ben's yacht
when you earn millions thought, you shouldn't pay as much, that's only fair
by being a parasite
yeah, access to the steam ecosystem and steamworks and all that shit is just so bad no one uses it
destroying indies
steam has literally been the birthplace of most indies
bringing more underage children into gambling
fortnite
younger console audience known for caving to peer pressure and bullying
fortnite has gambling
lmao
steamie on suicide watch
i wish steam would do this but they have a condom in there ass and wont remove it!!!!!
70% of $100 is still higher than 100% of $20
concedes on 2 points to argue a technicality about paying for cosmetics
you lost
fortnite is objectively worse given how it's on every system that's much easier to get access to kids with
Another thread, another mindbroken Epic pajeet.
kek fpbp
The opposite is happening brainlet. The yacht isn't getting funded because nobody wants the product being offered.
users don't give a fuck about revenue splits you retard we're not the ones selling games
damn things are tough for them I guess
fpbp why would I give a shit if it's still the same price for me but worse service
You mean it's objectively better if you hate publishers, which I do.
1 game
I can apply this to all games
Is there some compelling reason why it wouldn't extrapolate at least roughly? Are you saying that the particular audience for that game is unique somehow in its distribution across different platforms?
so true tencentsister!
unless we compare it to a high profile timed exclusive that father timmy threw money at it's not fair!
i make up numbers
MOM
MOM
Uncharted sold like 60 trillion on Playstation
while doing 1 million or 2 on PC, despite a way larger audience
you are a liar
So... No compelling reason then?
gets BTFO with Steam slop numbers
tries to ignore it
You didn't even address my question at all and instead went off on a tangent about uncharted and playstation, how is that at all relevant to the distribution of PC players across two stores epic-gpt?
that's irrelevant that a game series sell like garbage on Steam
no, no, games sell superb on Steam
but but but Epic
but but but epic
The subject was epic you fucking retard, how are sales of a game on PlayStation, which released six months before it did on Steam even remotely comparable to a game that released at the same time on two competing PC stores?
50 million vs. 1-2 million on Steam-slop
this makes sense
but but but this one indie game confirms that sales on Epic are super super super bad
if I took you seriously, you would have confirmed that Steam is a failure
devs still increase games to $80+
this does nothing for me
indie devs are dying
meanwhile, AAA journos are crying that indie games are threatening the industry
lol it's not gonna work because Epic has proven itself to be a literal black void, so no one is gonna exclusively switch to epic as proven when Kingdom Hearts released on Steam and people didn't know it had been on Epic for literal years. 0% cut is not gonna change that no one uses Epic for more than Fortnite.
Look I know this is going to be hard to handle epic-gpt, but according to epics 2024 year in review, they transact about 3% of Steam's sales, so that one indie game is really more like the rule than an exception
Dude, nobody who plays video games on PC is so desperate that they HAVE to play Uncharted. I bet you almost everyone who has a PS4/5 or whatever wouldn't rebuy that game on PC either to play it again.
Steam-slop sales
so including their illegal casino business?
anybody who has epic installed, already has steam
Dude, nobody who plays video games on PC wants to play Build Zoo, because it's a game made for faggots
Yes that total does include all of epics revenue, including all micro transactions and lootboxes
Might be true. There are good games to build a zoo, that may not be one of them. I wouldn't know.
so it includes Fortnite too?