What went wrong??
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CiV was the last good installment of the series. Not even the peak (that would be SMAC and Civ4) but just the last one that felt like actual Civilization.
Copied the worst parts of Humankind. Plus some really weird Civ choices
For me it's civ IV
2k cancer
gee I wonder why
What went wrong??
they made a bad game and it was poorly recieved...
are paid reviews are so standard now that a bad game getting bad reviews is noteworthy?
Stop putting niggers in my games. Simple as.
Humankind Chads, our time is now with our mixxed reviews!
What went wrong??
age transitions
nobody wants to get their shit reset multiple times a game
release civ game
it sucks
spend years fixing it and adding expansions
end of life its alright but still worse than the previous entry, just barely good enough that you'll play it over the last one
release civ game
cycle repeats
They unfortunately just kept this cycle going too long and Civ got awful enough that it's unsalvageable now
Don't worry, they'll fix it with a $59.99 expansion pack, and the removal of the 3 age system will be called a feature. I seriously just wish every shill who was paid to argue with me pre-release would simply drop dead, including their entire families and their children, especially their children.
are paid reviews are so standard now that a bad game getting bad reviews is noteworthy?
yeah
I'd be shocked if there's a way to fix 7.
The core of everything resetting every age is so fucked, and so fundimental to this trash game's design I don't know what could be piled on it to matter.
I will never in a million years understand why those fucking morons thought that fucking Humankind, the game that killed people's respect in Amplitude should be the game they take inspiration from. Like I can't think of a dev THIS tone deaf to what fans want in quite a while.
Recent review rating doesn't matter, it's the overall rating that does. Once your overall ratings slips into Mostly Negative, Steam's algorithm avoids putting your kusoge on store pages. Civ 7 still needs to drop like 8% before it leaves Mixed, which isn't going to happen outside of some massive controversy. Maybe if they make chinks mad for some reason.
They broke the cycle in the wrong direction. Civ 7 is unfixable, they'd need to remake it from the ground up to make it even mediocre, nevermind "just barely good enough that you'll play it over the last one"
Is this the one where harriet tubman is a world leader and ghengis khan is a black woman?
What happened to my man Sid? Is there some elder abuse going on where they stole his property from him?
EL2 please save us
EL2 if you can hear me please save us
Give me Civ V's gameplay loop and art style with Civ VI's mechanics and customization and you have my money
they were high on cocaine when they conceptualized the game. fire everyone involved
BRO! Its called Civilizations! -NS! As in plural!
YEEEES!! A new civ EVERY SINGLE AGE BRO!
woooooo wtf GENIUS bro!
he just cashes the cheques now
he sold out about 20 years ago at his peak
Our only hope is that all the retardation from humankind was sega's idea.
Make new civ
But pander to consolefags who will NEVER like it
Also insert all the shit that people don't like about Humankind into Civ
Flops
Gee I wonder why
They turned Civ V and VI around with expansions so maybe that can happen with VII.
the base game itself is fucked
What other anon's have said. Civ 5 and 6 were flawed but fundamentally there was a good game to be found in there but 7 is just shit to it's core so no matter what they rebalance, what they add the game will never be good. Unless they literally stripped away the game's core mechanics there's no hope for it.
Between outsourcing Endless Space 2's DLC so that the game ended on a sour note, whatever the fuck Endless Dungeon was, and Humankind the inspiration for Civ 7, I don't exactally have much hope for Amplitude right now.
There's no way that would help, Civ 7 is just fucked, at least with 5 and 6 the base game was still okay it just needed refinement. You may as well just make a brand new game
I will never forgive potatomcwhiskey for blatantly shilling this shit game when it was obvious how bad it was. I will never forgiving him for confronting and calling people stupid for pointing the obvious.
you'd do it too for the kind of money they were giving him
try civ vi
blobby, cartoony, clearly "mobile-friendly" art style
dull, banal, irrelevant, obscure tech quotes seemingly designed to insult the player's intelligence
messy UI
Sean Bean
It's shockingly bad, made even more shocking by the number of "people" who think it's good.
but CHUDDA
My main problem with civ 7 is that it's simply too expensive. I'm happy to wait until they reduce the price to a reasonable level on sale or something, and if Firaxis goes bankrupt in the meantime, so be it
he just posted suicide bait
what
a
fucking
faggot
jesus fucking christ
Do nothing
You're not wrong, Civ VI is the first game that made me consider I might actually be in a simulation or mass-gaslit.
Probably this. If you watch the video he just says he's depressed, but that doesn't matter. Most people aren't going to sit through 90% of the video or even click on it, they only need to see the the title. This is Civ 7's biggest apologist and the biggest Civilisation content creator, and the title and thumbnail of the video make it appear he has a huge problem with Civ 7 and can't stand to play it. Again, it doesn't matter that this isn't what he says in the video. Most people take news headlines as information without ever clicking and the same mistake applies here.
You couldn't tell he was an easily bought shill from his he covered humankind or that beaver game? Really?
people calling the artstyle bad should fuck off, have you guys never read asterix or stuff like that? it is basically the same style. It is so good, you guys deserve the dogshit style of 7
I didn't watch these videos becaus ethey were clearly sponsored dogshit, him being so disingenuous about civ 7 was the real backstab
What went wrong??
I think it would be far easier to tell what went right, since absolutely nothing went right.
Just fucking imagine banning and censoring your fucking own players because instead of putting a famous figure for the US ruler, you put a random no name nigress, and then to harden the blow you put the UK behind a paywall.
one unit per tile
if this alone didn't scare you off you deserve to play bad games
people obviously call him a shill
I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF I'M SO DEPRESSED
it is a long way down.
I prefer Humankind to Civ. I like having Naval artillery and bombers that can completely wipe the enemy out.
Because business shareholders are retarded
My issue with Civ 6 was that it felt like it was way overstuffed with redundant mechanics that just felt playthroughs feeling bloated. It felt to me like making way too many micro decisions that had such little impact that nothing I did felt substantial which then meant that I didn't have any fun with decision making in it. It's a real example of proving that less is more sometimes.
Civ 7 is so bad it makes people suicidal
Just gonna keep playing civ5 for the time being. Maybe they'll get it right with the next game.
Supposedly they had been planning the Age system before Humankind did. But even then, they should have pulled back once they saw the reaction to that game's systems. It should have been a chance to dodge a bullet instead of jumping toward it eagerly.
You need to watch videos like his to get a feel for the game while tuning out the obvious sponsored marketing talk.
call a spade a spade
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I AM DEPRESSED
why are they like this?
The game resetting on every age change isn't inherently bad, but terribly executed. Now:
drop the "civs change across the eras" shtick (or at least add a mode that allows it to be disabled)
fix the UI
rework eras system
add some real leaders
There you go, should be at least salvageable.
Hope they learnt their lesson for the inevitable Civ8
I know Civ has spent most of the last decade copying Amplitude's homework, but I don't know why they thought it was a good idea after the reception of Humankind. I guess anyone with original ideas left Firaxis long ago
My issue with Civ 6 was that it felt like it was way overstuffed with redundant mechanics that just felt playthroughs feeling bloated.
That's what killed it for me. It wasn't empire building, it was just city planning trash.
How long ago was Humankind again? I feel like they absolutely had enough time to change the game's design between then and 7's release.
I would actually enjoy the new civ leader with every age if there were enough leaders from each civilisation for them all to actually be the same civilisation. as is, because they're mostly all just random leaders from totally different civs, all sense of cohesion is lost and it's not satisfying to play.
They didn't do it because they thought it would succeed, they did it to own the chuds.
28 minutes of him crying about people calling him a shill when he shilled for a game
what is he so sad about? he got paid to do it
Yeah the game devolves into a spreadsheet simulator really quickly. Having to make 20 decisions that increase food by 1 in cities every turn gets old before you've even finished a game.
So it's the same exact shit that happens every single CIV release?
Zero chance of that happening. It's not economically viable compared to starting work on the next big slop. They'll have a small crew continue doing DLC and bugfixes to keep the game on life support.
So it's the same exact shit that happens every single CIV release?
no, this is different, civ 5 and 6 were shit on release for lack of content and boring civ/leader abilities, that got fixed with more content being released
civ 7 is fundamentally shit because no one wants to play as the roman empire lead by george floyd that is forced to become buganda
The other civ games were shit on for lack of content and being barebones, this is getting shit on for fundamentally being a bad game filled with shit that didn't belong in the series to begin with
It's not that things like making Harriet Tubman the leader of the US is what caused the games failure, but the incompetence to do such is the same incompetence that somehow took a tried and true formula and innovated new ways to ruin said formula.
Vanilla V & VI were content-barren but otherwise solid foundations, it makes sense that expansions turned them around. VII's expansions will need to build a new foundation, people just do not like the core mechanics.
Reminder that this fag purposefully picked Tubman in a live stream to, quote, "make the chuds mad".
heartbreaking because i LOVE endless legend.
they have announced that they are starting endless legends 2 but i cant get a good feeling about it.
You did get mad though.
This is like le epic troll trololol 101 from like 2002
You're either underdeveloped or just stupid to fall for and get angry at this insignificant stuff
yep
a bad decision rarely comes alone
everything went wrong, and it's not gonna be heckin "saved" by DLCs this time because the very core of the game is awful
I'm not a huge fan of 6 but the main problem on launch was it being content bare, not being fundamentally terrible on every level so it's not surprising that it went through the same stages that 5 did
go woke go broke
maybe next time try making a game of interest to history or strategy nerds instead of social justice warriors
I-i don't understand why my audience turned against me and called me a shill
the videos the motherfucker uploads
any acknowledgement is anger
Why is your entire generation like this? This used to only be a characteristic of neglected children.
Just like fighting games.
denuvo which is quite literally malware
the goal isn't to finish the game but rather, to stop playing eventually before the end
we wuzn't leaders but we can pretend
Pretty much it's the opposite of what Civ 1-4 was about, 5 wasn't as bad and 6, while utter slop, was still trying to be Civ
i never understood how that guy got popular he's insufferable even ignoring the blatant shilling
Having to switch civilizations mid-game is an EXTREMELY bad mechanic and the very thought of it indicates the devs have no fucking clue why people play these games. Civ7 cannot have any success until it's patched and the civ-switching is removed entirely, not even left as an option.
Also the starting civs were laughably bad, basically 20% nations you might have heard of and 80% jokes nobody wants to play with.
As someone in the Insiders program I really really hope you liked Humankind
he used to post tutorials for civ 6 and got popular. Herson kinda got his spot because his build is much better than potato's, i've tested it
why hasn't there been an ambitious one man dev indie 4x game to save the genre?
Swapping Civs between Eras is akin to the car in Mario Party 9-10 in that it is a retarded idea made by people who don't understand what makes the game enjoyable for it's audience.
It's anger because it's a trivial thing and you have imprinted it into your brain for later storage. You have emotional connections to this dude picking a character you don't like in a video game.
A dude you will never interact with, never play games with, never seen, never meet.
He's a shitposter that works on "if you reply to me I win" logic. They're all like that.
Which parts? Humankind had some good ideas but all the usual amplitude soul hollowed out of it. I'd be very happy with EL lore and gameplay systems with humankind's combat and map design
one man dev
4x
Maybe someone's working on it, should be released in15 years or so
Unless you can stomach something like Aurora, it's virtually impossible for just one guy (or a very small team) to put forth a fully fledged 4x vydia
I strongly agree with this post.
I don't think that's possible unless that dude was extremely autistic and dedicated to the goal.
In all promotional material for Civ 7 they only spoke about how the Civ switching mechanic was 100% their own original idea and didn't ever even hint at taking inspiration from any other dev studio so I assume they just believed they could succeeded where Humankind failed. There's no way devs of one of the biggest 4x franchises ever didn't hear about Humankind.
do modern civ games let you have uncontrolled immigration and widespread policies against the native population? if so, does your civilization thrive? asking for a friend
I still stand by if Humankind got rid of the shitty civ swapping and focused on making strong and really individualized factions that played differently like they did so well in EL and ES2 Humankind could have been a pretty damn good game. It can't be overstated just how much the civ swapping ruins the game.
any excuse to have hinggers lead america. or they probably thought that such system would dampen the effect of having tubman as a "leader".
in civ 6 you can ban foreign music
This used to only be a characteristic of neglected children.
I think you answered your own question.
Nothing. There's no way.
The only way to salvage Civ 7 is a megapatch that basically turns it into a different game entirely, rebuilds all mechanics from the ground up. And that's almost as much work as calling it quits, pulling the plug and starting on Civ 8.
I remember everyone being pissed when Firaxis was trying so hard to pivot towards consoles during the 360 generation. Now that every console is basically just a PC running a proprietary OS and PC gaming is bigger than ever they are STILL doing the same shit lmao. "We want the call of duty audience" has been dead for over a decade and they are still operating under that mantra.
watch one of the 7 pre-release streams back whenever that was
please understand, all of the civs need to be heckin balanced and play the same that's why we're doing this switching crap and the eras
who the fuck was even asking for that kind of balance? Some civs should be good at rushing early game war, some should be good at turtling, etc
like what the hell were they thinking
I will never understand people playing a strategy game with a controller.
What went wrong??
Fundamental design flaws that make it no longer play like CIV and that destroy the character of the game.
Disconnecting leaders from their CIVs and having Civs turn into other Civs in different eras destroys any sense of character the different players have. If you're playing against Ghengis Khan leader of Mongolia you know who you're dealing with. If you're playing against Harriet Tubman who was the ruler of Rome that turned into China that turned into Mexico then you have no idea who or what sort of civ you're dealing with. Civs cease to become factions with personalities and become a random collection of stat bonuses that you have to look up to figure out who you're playing against.
Its an absolutely terrible decision and there's no fixing it. They have to admit defeat and return to the old system where Leaders are tied to Civs that stay the same through the whole game. If they don't I'll never have any interest in playing it.
Putting hard breaks between the different eras was also an incredibly stupid decision that ruins the flow of the game and takes control away from the player.
To fix the game; both of these massive and fundamental design changes have to be thrown out. The question is can they swallow their pride and admit they were wrong.
4X games live and die with the personality of their factions being expressed in gameplay. It's why Endless Space 2 will ALWAYS be the best 4X game ever made.
goes into a commie rant how housing should be centrally planned midway through the video
do the Irish really?
Should a game dev and a streamer be this antagonistic towards people who buy their games or watch their content?
No one wants nigress world leader for le americas. You didn't get a black women president, nobody wants this shit in their games. It's Abraham Lincoln or George Washington and you're set.
el2 bros, i dont feel so good. our boy was pushing it pretty hard, but now that he wants to kill himself...
The only way to salvage Civ 7 is a megapatch that basically turns it into a different game entirely,
They'll never do it but they should. I bet that they kept most of the game mechanics but deleted the civ switching, deleted the eras resetting, tied the leaders to their respective nations (basically just everything that has to do with leaders and civs go back to civ 6) the game and the reception would improve greatly.
After that they should tweak some of the ugliness out of the game, like bringing back the civ leader screen instead of the gay theater play that they put in 7
And that's almost as much work as calling it quits, pulling the plug and starting on Civ 8.
I agree with you that they basically have to rebuild the mechanics from the ground up; but I do think that's still considerably easier and cheaper than just throwing it in the trash and trying to rush Civ 8 out.
Like I can't think of a dev THIS tone deaf to what fans want in quite a while.
Volition with nu-Saints Row?
Hyenas? Concord?
Yeah but did you see what Scrimbler said about it? Did you watch CtrlAltDeFEET's reaction video? What about GlitchBae's remix comparison? Or the stream where Llamados said it was full of crap?
Did you maybe catch RageQuitRick's video where he said you should fucking leave and never come back you useless sack of ewaste shit?
what's firaxis even gonna do now that this megaflopped?
XCOM is about as dead as it gets, there's almost nobody left in the company from xcom 2
Civs cease to become factions with personalities and become a random collection of stat bonuses that you have to look up to figure out who you're playing against.
That Alpha Centauri is the complete opposite of this, every character has a strong personality, is why it is still considered among the best in the genre. It is like playing through a scifi novel.
I still don't think civ transition is a bad idea, it's just poorly executed, buth in Humankind and in Civ. Transitions have to follow a logical thread (English into American would be fine for example, or Portuguese into Brazilian), which is not what's happening in either game. Of course there needs to also be a toggle for purists who want their USA USA USA in the stone age without any of the civ changing. Pic related is the evolution tree in War Selection.
i would imagine their budgets, while inflated, probably arent as bad as a big AAA action-adventure release like Ass Creed flopping
but i also dont expect anybody serious to be at the helm ever again
so theyre dead, its a matter of how fast
I think you overestimate the importance of some random D-tier e-celeb compared to the fact that the game just objectively isn't good or fun to anyone in the world.
Honestly if there are parts of Humankind you liked I bet you'll find parts of EL2 you'll like as well. Note that I'm not saying EL2 is bad or that I don't enjoy it (I'm not even saying I hated Humankind), but I'm sure some anons hoped that EL2 was going to basically be a graphical update to EL1 with a few new factions (I know that's what I assumed before I got in)
But to answer your question more directly, things like the way you grow and manage cities are taken right out of Humankind along with combat and unit management/development
In desperate need of a graphical overhaul or at least a workable windowed mode though. Also faction customization, I want to be able to play Space UN without being some hairy jeet.
At that point you basically aren't Civ switching at all then. More just evolving.
I do wonder if they'll ever admit their fuck up and remove civ switching from the game. Probably not because it's THE central feature of the game but I wonder just how many stages of coping they'll go through before finally pulling the plug.
I don't know how, but I had no idea Endless Legend had any sort of following. Thought it was one of those things they threw out there and it just quietly existed. I've seen people talk about Humankind, Dungeon of the Endless and it's awful sequel but never EL.
If it's just that I'm more fine with it. So long as it plays to the strengths of EL1 which is what I said in my post being distinct factions that really shine with their own mechanics giving each one their own personality and vibe I'll be ok with it. I think that would be somewhat unavoidable since with EL2 being a fantasy game with factions being completely different species they kind of need to function differently.
What went wrong??
I blame the jews
keep your civ
new leader every Age
That Alpha Centauri is the complete opposite of this, every character has a strong personality,
They made the same mistake with Beyond Earth. You go from having characters like Chairman Yang the totalitarian stalinist and Provost Zhakarov the nihilistic mad scientist with no scrupples and Nbaduke Morgan the Anarcho Capitalist tycoon who single handedly industrialized Africa to Beyond Earth which has the inoffensive black guy who leads the totally non descript "African Union" or the inoffensive Asian woman who leads the "Pan Asian Cooperative", like what even are the factions? They don't seem to have any ideology behind them they're just vague areas of the planet Earth that decided to fund an expedition to another world.
Its a shame too because Beyond Earth has a lot of fun things going on in it; but compared to Alpha Centauri it just has no personality.
Now CIV 7 has managed to make the same mistake with the main series. Like seriously how do you fuck up Napoleon? Oh I know, you don't make him French!
"Principled leftist" shills for a major corporation fucking over their consumers.
Goes on to pity farm about how he wants to kill himself.
I am shocked. SHOCKED. Dumb faggot should just go through with it.
I think it will be an artifact situation where they'll slowly let the game die on its own until they finally formally announce that support for it will be over
There's nothing new just feels stale, that and the whole mix and match civilisation trope just makes it come as humankind 2
You might not get what I'm saying. Civ 7 reviews recently dropped and the biggest Civ 7 apologist and content creator recently made that video. I'm saying that's likely the cause for this recent sharp dip, not for the overall negative reception across time.
PERU MENTIONED!!!
I can't wait for EL2 to come out and then release DLC that completely ruin the balance of the game and basically don't function outside of the new faction that DLC adds so you pretty much need to turn the DLC off if you aren't using that faction.
They could forget that Chimera Squad ever happened like the rest of us do, take some notes from what worked in that capeshite slops of theirs (heard it did some things mechanically right) and make it the Terror from the Deep successor that 2's ending promised.
They've got a lot of their work cut out for them if you take a good look at how EW and 2 ended (mechanically, that is) and TftD was like, but I'd be fucking delusional if I expected Firaxis to actually take advantage of that instead of a poorly thought out mess that banks on callbacks and currentyear faggotry and THAT'S XCOM BABY! and banking on muh mods will fix it.
I know just the right bridge for him.
I never said anything about getting mad. It reflects poorly on him.
They ain't fixing shit and people are tired of waiting for the expansion.
They should have worked more on Beyond Earth because it was pretty awesome (not at that full price though)
They thought Civ was too big to fail so they crammed it full of shit that nobody wanted and called anyone that criticized it a bigot. This time customers weren't having it. Everyone involved in making this game deserves to be unemployed.
We need more sci-fi 4X games. It's like 90% historical games or fantasy games.
Based and correct, seriously most of the good ones are like years old now
a lot of the UI looks like early development placeholders
who on earth thought that was acceptable
yeah it's so hecking chungus that civ games look like french cartoons for children and fags now good point you french underage gayboy
if you removed the word "Civ" from your post I wouldn't guess which game you're talking about lol
There's tons of 4X sci-fi games but most of them are interstellar/galactic empire management stuff, not planet-bound. I know of Age of Wonders: Planetfall and Revival: Recolonization. ZEPHON might also count but it's more like eldritch post-apocalyptic and based on Gladius. Oh there's Gladius too.
Instead of switching civs, they should have just made different enhancements to your civ. Like, you play as America for the entire game, but in the first era, you can play as Imperial America, then you find 3 horses and instead of magically turning into Mongolia, you can choose to switch to the Horselord trait or follow from Imperial to Colonial.
The undefeated 4X master
literally the second most sold comic book in history, only behind one piece, cope amerifat capeshitter
Problem is a SF 4X really needs a good setting, something that can be entirely ignored in fantasy, to stand out. Or you end up with something like Beyond Earth.
Stellaris
4X
It's arguably not even a game
forced civilization switch
I mean that's probably not the reason why the players are mad, but I don't need to read any further
Because the game was developed for consoles first, hence the focus on dividing a campaign into 2 hour long segments, which no one who plays on PC thought was a problem
grand strategy is distinct entity from 4x
real-time instead of turn-based
Disqualified
AMPLITUDE IF YOU CAN HEAR ME SAVE US WITH EL2 PLZ PLZ
i'm very in the middle on 6 but at least it's fun to play with extreme meme strats bc of how busted some stuff still is in it
has way too many literal who leaders tho and the style is so much worse than 5. I guess it was a sign of what was to come
distinct factions that really shine with their own mechanics giving each one their own personality and vibe
The factions are very different from each other so I'm sure you'll be plesed about that. I would try to get into the Insiders program if you haven't already
great britain is dlc
why?
Is Stellaris the only grand strat/4x type game where you can create your own custom species/civilisation from scratch?
because people bought the civ 6 leader passes and they thought it was just a guarantee that a new civ game would sell
Stellaris is a game I like conceptually with what you can do with it but find actually playing it to be incredibly boring
Age of Wonders lets you but it's fantasy themed
GalCiv and ES2 allowed you to make one too, but you were limited to existing traits and graphics unless you modded them in.
GalCiv2 in particular is very easy to mod and got famous for that.
But if you're talking customization on the same extent as Stellaris (ideologies, stats, etc), then they're probably the only ones.
I'm not really married to it, but I wish 4X games tried more fresh ideas.
You have to roleplay it. The game isn't fun unless you play suboptimally: took an embarrassing amount of time for me to realise that
Sorry bong, but you're not a major power like Buganda anymore and frankly pretending you ever were is just white privilege
top fucking kek
master of orion 2 had custom species
Would you say in your opinion that you'd buy that a lot of Humankind's design flaws were due to Sega meddling?
That video kinda pissed me off, maybe he explained himself poorly but he just sounded like a retarded, entitled, manchild. All his "I'm so depressed" shit sounded like normal problems everyone deals with on a daily basis.
It is more entertaining to think that Civ 7 is so shit it made him suicidal though.
It must be because the incels are keeping it down.
Yeah. That's it.
Are the game's core mechanics truly so compromised that they can't be patched into whatever it is people actually like?
It is more entertaining to think that Civ 7 is so shit it made him suicidal though.
if you skip the first half of the video, it looks like this is exactly what happened, he got a ton of shit for blatantly shilling civ 7 that ir relapsed his depression, he deserves it though, the game is absolute shit and he kept posting videos like this it is a blatant insult to the audience
This is the only way it would be acceptable to me. I think even Firaxis knows this because in Civ7 China actually has a proper civ for every era but it's like the only civ where that's the case.
They would need to swallow their pride and completely rework the game from the ground up. Other Civ games lacked content at launch, but this game isn't even Civ. They need to scrap every single plan they had for this game and just hunker down to make a patch turning it into an actual Civilization 7, because fucking nobody is going to buy any expansions as it stands.
As much as I love Amplitude I think they were really excited about Humankind and it was 100% their own decisions
You could do a patch but that patch would have beascally change the whole game, the mechanics are just that poorly thought out
The endless series was a big fucking deal for about 10 years. It's only after humankind flopped that people stopped talking about amplitude, they were "the ones poised to take over the 4x industry from Sid" up until then. Which is why Sid kept stealing their ideas, which is a big part of why cov 7 flopped.
Probably cause of it's age. I think Endless Space 2 gets talked about a fair but being more recent it came out in 2017 if you want to feel old
Fuck off, it looks like ass. You're the kind of retard who would defend the monkey island remake
They gave us this abortion of a game instead of what the public demands XCOM 3 where you fight against the deep ones with snek girls and Sectoid bros.
totally different styles, you're a retarded cunt, you deserve civ 7
Why aren't you playing Chimera Squad? They gave you what you wanted!
Jake Solomon left, bro. A sequel would just be more gay and transsexual friendly aliens
The presence of woke shit is always proof that someone is disregarding "kill your darlings."
Britain evolves into India
Not Nigeria, Egypt, Kenya, Ethiopia or any other former colony: just India
Canada evolves from the Iroquois
Nah, this is just as retarded
is ursa ryan the only youtube still playing 7? and ursa is an extremely weird person if that is the last person who still playing your game that is really concerning
I already did. Torque was great.
I'm aware , but it's fun to dream.
Its baffles me how they fucked up Civ.
The concept is so simple.
Having never played any civ-game, why come this is considered a mockery of the genre?
The fact that factions are unique again is honestly all I need to know. With that alone the game will be "good enough" such that even if it's worse than EL1 I'll be happy. I'm not too interested in the insider program since I'd want to play the game in a more complete state. I might honestly wait for it to go out of EA which is supposed to be pretty soon.
Just india
looks like they can also evolve into the US and Australia?
They should keep copying that one retarded game that no one liked. Or maybe add in more world leaders like Al Sharpton. Fucking retards Civ deserves to rot, the people behind it are talentless faggots.
The same thing that always goes wrong. They went woke and hired activists who can't make good games. Civ 6 was already treading the line into mid territory and was proto-woke. Civ7 just went all in.
Seems accurate to me kek
I am so worried about Endless Legend 2
If they wanted a black leader they should have just fucking picked Obama.
Whats funny is after all the bitching about her being added she is one of the more fun leaders to play cause you can be a total asshole to the AI and if they declare war on you they get penalized out the ass for it.
Understandably, a series would want to shake things up from one title to another to make every game feel unique. Sometimes though, when you reach your hands into the mud to make something new, they come out covered in shit. And sometimes, its because you reached into shit. Specifically, shit that was already proven to be a bad idea.
In this case, the game is just flat out bad, and it's on a fundamental level. No mere DLC can fix the game's issues; it needs a complete rework, one that won't happen. The game won't die as fast as humankind, but I think it will be the first Civ game to have its lifespan cut short by poor sales. If the devs actually admit to themselves what went wrong, this will be a healthy lesson for the franchise, and they will course correct with the next title. If not, then this is where the franchise finally dies, and anything that comes out after it will be a decaying zombie.
This is why I immediately distrust any strategy game described as "4x". That term almost always means that it's a godawful paradox-style slog with every half-baked, autism trap mechanic the devs could possibly come up with.
I wouldn't call myself worried. I never expected it to be good.
Or fucking Frederick Douglas, who was even Tubbie's contemporary.
it looks like some shitty mobile game, first thing that came to my mind when I saw civ 6 were clash of clans ads I have seen.
You can make cool comic artstyle but the one they did go with was shit
Unironically would have been better. At least he was a leader of the country. Also very recognizable.
Wow, the diversity character is OP. Shocking.
Recent review rating doesn't matter, it's the overall rating that does.
So are you just saying you don't like 4X games in general?
want to play as Egypt
you CANT
you have to magically transform into another race of people and then into another
It's made by idiots who think that everybody can be anything.
I played 200 hours of Civ 6 but I don't remember a fucking thing about it.
Beyond Earth was one expansion away from being as good as Civ 5 or 6.
Disagree. Beyond Earth was beyond salvaging.
no they didn't. civ 5's problem was the lack of content so expacks fixed that, civ 6 never had any real problems and the expacks just threw more systems and more civs on top.
cause you can be a total asshole to the AI and if they declare war on you they get penalized out the ass for it.
why are SJWs more racist than unironic Anon Babble nazis?
Entire premise of the series is building an empire to stand the test of time.
What if we released a game where that was literally impossible?
The game is split into three "eras". In each era switch you are forced to throw most of your progress in the trash and literally repick the faction you play as. In most cases you can't choose the same faction since most of them only exist in one era (chinese and indians are the special exceptions that get to stay chinese/pajeet).
This is so unfun and demoralizing that it's hard to even describe it. There's other things wrong with the game too, but those barely matter compared to this gigantic brainshart.
I was missing a solution but no one fucking listens.
The fix is to make it like civ 3 where you build like 50 towns per age. Make the towns have better specializations and then place limits instead on the number of cities.
Kind of a map sprawl creep thing like an advancing wave and fighting over it.
This game has no business with right balance and constraint, it’s too streamlined.
This will make losing peripheral settlements less painful, so the crisis feature can be more punishing and fun.
I also have fixes for culture in the modern period, and I think the economic game of the exploration age can be fixed.
The game could be fixed but it requires vision the devs lack. Again it’s so streamlined that you have to remove constraints and balance and turn it into a Zerg wave shit show of a game.
Actually the game is literally the result of an Ayahuasca crash out by Ed Beach. There’s a Glassdoor review about it.
I got 180 hours in the game but i also haven't played it since April 2nd. The civ switching is fine once you actually play the game. Of course like most i would prefer to stick with one civ for the entirety of the map but you can create some fun combos as you progress. The games biggest problem is the era system is a miss in how its executed. And the worst of all is the UI. I would confidently say the UI in Civ 7 is the worst UI in the history of 4x games when you consider they've made 7 of these games now and should know better. It looks boring and miserable, it doesn't tell you shit either. It made even poeple like go on rants in other videos about how terrible it was.
She isnt OP, there's plenty of leaders that are stronger then her. She just has a fun gimmick that if you build into can be fun to mess around with.
Base civ6 had some utterly broken systems like how combat bonuses stacked so that rome could have a pile of 45 base power legionaires with +20 from generals and +8 from flanking/support to end up with a turn 40 timing push that beats ww1 tanks.
If there was such a thing, you would ignore it because it would wind up being a literal spreadsheet simulator
Guy is REALLY afraid to be on Fireaxis bad side.
That dinner must had been good.
Quick rundown please
When 5 came out, I told you jackasses that it was the beginning of the end and it had fallen into board game territory. That should have tipped everyone off that further installments would be shit.
denuvoshit
I can't even shill the damn game for free
It's not grand strategy, it's 4X. The star systems are the "cities" and the planets are the "tiles"
Just because it's RTWP and has a similar UI to Paradox GS games doesn't make it one.
Link that shit, I can't find it
The civ switching is fine once you actually play the game.
Happy pride month to you too.
Fireaxis games are his source of income and civ7 being garbage is very likely going to force a career change.
Personally I get turned off by the lag (I have a CPU that was initially released 14 years ago), and all the DLCs added a metric ton of bloat to the gameplay, especially tech. I counted the number of vanilla and DLC-only physics researches (without counting repeatables) and about 90 techs are vanilla while 54 techs are DLC-only. Removing Cosmogenesis stuff from it leads to 40 techs, and without the pre-FTL research techs it's 36 DLC techs just in Physics alone, generally polluting it with inconsequential tech that's mostly for gimmicks like gravity snares.
instead of putting a famous figure for the US ruler
like Benjamin Franklin?
elemental
incredibly undercooked game
fallen enchantress
better overall, but still janky
sorcerer king
checked out by this point so I can't say
hell of a journey. I did like some crazy systems like how children inherited dna from their parents. extra fun if they were mixed.
Yes. I like turn-based strategy games like Civ II. I'll admit that this might just be a bad correlation, but I swear they became massively more mechanically bloated when people in the industry started calling them "4x".
they didnt add george floyd as a leader
Absolute gobbledygook. It might be THE blandest 4X title I've ever played.
I think how you think about the Civ switching depends entirely how much you value more vague and nebulous things like the feeling of playing a Civ. Some people think of Civ as just a boardgame and don't care about anything but the numbers and mechanics and some people(like me) care about the personality of factions and how it "feels" when you play a Civ or against other Civs then you'll hate the Civ switching cause it removes any and all identity from who you're playing as and who you're playing against. It's very clear that 7 was designed with multiplayer in mind first rather than single player.
both expacks are content bloat because "new systems" is what works best in advertising
Sorcerer King is an amazing concept.
But in practice, I could play as the "hero" civ and spam quests at self to become a pillar of virtue.
Then bend the SK and fuck his ass as he sends threats every turn.
civ6 is ok but that's because i bought the complete edition for $20 or whatever so the value proposition ain't that bad at that price
The first game marketed as "4x" (the origin of the term) was Master of Orion 1 and that wasn't bloated.
Bloat is real though, and I think it mainly happens because the genre is mostly played by literal autismos and companies that make these try to cater to progressively more autistic people. Even ones that claim to try to appeal to new people (like Civ 7) usually just mean new kinds of autists.
It doesnt matter how you feel about it from a meta state. No one likes it in civ 7 because it blows up all of your units and buildings and unresearched techs forcing you to spend 20 turns rebuilding and also nukes every citystate and then spawns a barb camp with armored tanks 4 tiles from your capital. The crisis mechanic is annoying popups, the civ change is the actual crisis.
It’s not merely the design choices. The game is embarrassingly unfinished. The religion system is as boring dumb and repetitive as it could be like as if it’s an afterthought. The UI is painful to use.
I'm more talking about conceptually. For as much issue I had with Humankind I honestly think it did the Civ switching better than Civ 7 did.
huge map
continents
4 players
2 city states (Jerusalem and Mecca)
Gaming time.
2D Asterix is great, what you posted is garbage tho.
How do I do a culture victory in 6.
based, ive been doing this for 15 years without buying another civ and i havent had an issue
care about the personality of factions
I will admit im more of a "see number go up" enjoyer then RP aspect of the game. Its why i liked 6 so much with planning ahead to maximize district adjacency or tile yields. But one thing that i hate, which is UI related, is how they got rid of the leaders talking to (you) in diplomatic actions. The leaders looking at each other fucking sucks and removes so much of the animosity/friendship you build towards specific AI as the game progresses. What makes it even more baffling is they have the angle to face you in the game itself when you're picking the leader.
Whats funny about the "reset" is it was put in to try and prevent snowballing but in some way its made it worse cause of what you -can- carry over creates huge jumps in power at the start of later eras. Its also made this the easiest of the civs cause of that.
it is not
youtube.com
get a religion, build holy sites, build theater squares, get great artists, DO NOT GET GREAT ARTISTS THAT MAKE SCULPTURES, theme museums, in the late game, use your faith to spam rock bands at the guy with the biggest tourism
Just go on glassdoor
Beyond Earth was one expansion away from being as good as Civ 5 or 6.
I do think its really underrated. The Rising Tide expansion made it a much better game than it was at launch.
It still lacks the personality of Alpha Centauri; but it had some fun units and abilities to play around with.
What went wrong??
Jews, women and then brown people. In that order. As it always is in that order.
I think there should be more rule34 of Ben Franklin correcting brown bratz.
No i didn’t see those! Could you please link them for me so I can be better informed! Ty in advance anon!
UI dev said they were conflicting with management who shot down good tooltip solutions in favor of looking right for consoles.
Management spending all their time and money out of office on “research” trip vacations to historical places.
Go on “research” to Peru and have a spirit journey.
Come back convinced that a huge overhaul of the game is needed and starts asking the UI to be redone leading to crunch. Entire UI team quits. Game is built from the ground up, barely finished in time, they hired some Indian outsourcer to patch together a last minute UI in JavaScript.
management thinks its God's gift to the world and is actually a waste of resources
Yeah
Checks out
Just conquer the civs with comparable culture to yours
Benny boy was a hagchad, he wouldn't care about those kids
Jeets hired
Always a bad sign
This looks amazing, god damn. Rare to see a comic style taken into 3D this well.
The Ceasar model does look a bit off, but maybe they took one of the older designs. Also probably harder to get right, since he's way more defined compared to the mostly round villagers
I really hope Arnaud throws out some bangers again.
guy pours what looks to be, for a feral animal, a large vat of piss
bird immediately dunks headfirst into it
what a degenerate
This is basically how Paradox does it, and if you do a gauntlet run of CK->EU->Vic->HoI you can accomplish some pretty cool parallel history stuff. But the selection is WAY larger and frankly they make a lot more sense. In no world does Ukraine evolve from some basal substrate "Eastern European" civilization without going through a bunch of W. Iranian -> Rurikid -> Polish-Lithuianian -> Turkish -> Russian eras. It seems weird that Egypt and Iran and India are tertiary/quaternary civilizations when they should actually be basal starting civs. Seems weird to leave out Greece and Rome but maybe they're just using East and West Europe as generalized stand-ins? How the hell does Algeria evolve from Central Africa?
You know, I take that back. This looks stupid and if it's the best a casual 4X can come up with, they should just leave the evolution mechanic away.
fire off(or make things so toxic that they quit) all the original developers
hire ultra woke DEI team
ultra woke dei team makes woke garbage that has NONE of the elements of the original civ games.
The demoralized(woketards) cannot create. They can only copy. And not just that but they're that old shitty broken printer that always ruins every print with ink patches or decolorized images, or missing text. Etc. It just so happens that for civ7 the DEI team copied off of humankind but only the worst parts and somehow made them even worse.
Thats what wokism is. A shitty broken old printer.
Post kino tech trees
England > Great Britain > Jamaica > India
Vikings > Denmark > Sweden > Somalia
China > Japan > Brazil > Nepal
civ7 wanst a flop bros...
Forgot
England > USA > Congo > Israel
5 and 6 were just barebones at launch, but the core was still solid since they were still traditional civ games at their core.They just needed a bit ore meat with expansions.
7 is flawed at a fundamental level. Adding a bunch of new content isn't going to change the fact that it is a Humankind ripoff with the worst selection of leaders I have ever seen in a civ game.
It would have to look like civ 1 for it to be possible with 1 person. I've wished that I could make my own 4x, I certainly have plenty of ideas for it, but I'm too lazy to even learn the programming knowledge that I would need.
Firaxis are probably so arrogant they believed Humankind failed because Amplitude dared to step into their arena (historical, era-based 4X) and obviously flubbed it because they lack Firaxis' expertise. So they copied Humankind's ideas and set off to show them how to do it "correctly".
And got the exact same result.
Did they really like Humankind or did they just think "Hey, switching civs means we can sell 3 times as many civs"?
What does Firaxis even have left? XCOM is dead due to capeshit, Civilization is dead due to following dogshit game mechanics and other factors like Harriet Tubman.
but a ww1 tank really can't beat this
It'd probably be something like Shadow Empire, which was made by a tiny French studio that I can't find any info about (no wiki article about them, website is bare bones doesn't mention staff), but considering the studio is just the name of the guy who designed the games, I'm assuming it's a 1 man operation.
They clearly thought the civ switching idea was worth copying. I'm not sure what they thought about the game itself, but considering its bad reception somebody high up should've discouraged copying it.
I just wish it didn't grind to a halt lategame. In crusader kings 2 the fix is to disable india but there is no fix for it with Stellaris
It would have to look like civ 1 for it to be possible with 1 person
Perfect. Keeps the normies away.
They clearly thought the civ switching idea was worth copying.
Yeah, because they want to sell more stuff. The whole game is set up to sell stuff. Tech catch up, fast games, less micro like builders, city limits, mixing everything.
They never thought about making a fun civ game. One that the people want.
Sid Meier's doesn't care.
You now remember midnight suns gigabombing in sales
they should have pulled back once they saw the reaction to that game's systems. It should have been a chance to dodge a bullet instead of jumping toward it eagerly.
I feel like they absolutely had enough time to change the game's design between then and 7's release.
If it were 15 years ago they would have had more than enough time to pivot. But development cycles have gotten so absurdly long that making significant changes is simply not possible anymore.
No one can meaningfully course correct anymore. It takes too much time and money.
Civ games being unfinished at launch is nothing new. That's what the planned expansions and DLC are for. Civ 5 was also bare bones and lacking features when it released, and it took a ton of expansions before it could even begin to stand up to Civ 4's legacy.
revamp entire gameplay flow just to own the chuds
What did they think would happen
Most people that work on games now treat it the same as you or i treat a white collar job or school.
Nobody actually gives a shit about their work.
If you have a competent director that cares, that doesn't matter, but the people in charge of these projects are installed by boards of investors that only care about number go up.
I don't know who, but someone either involved in the revolution that signed the independence declaration or some actual, well known president that existed in reality.
but considering its bad reception somebody high up should've discouraged copying it.
No high level management will ever do that. That will be like confession that said management made a wrong chooice somewhere and therefore is not a council of omnipotent sages who make bold decisions which - despite being completely illogical to the minions below them - are all always right and, in turns, justify their massive paychceks
I actually love the art and hate everything else. Give me V with the style of VI.
Go back
Let's make a Civ game with Harriett Tubman as the protagonist
Heh those chuds will be mad
Wait...why does everyone hate our game????
Sorry history chuds, looks like Ghandi wasn’t the nazi you think it’s so heckin funny to pretend he is. Let this be your final warning!!
pretty long list of names you can pick to be burgerland leaders even if you want to be memey about it
pick fucking Harriett Tubman and Franklin
I guess that was always gonna be the end result of what they were trying to do with all the literal fucking whos that are in 6. But at least 6 still has the classics like Alexander, Shaka, etc
Screenshot of a clickbait article reacting to a Steam review
What the fuck went wrong with Anon Babble? Why can't you just say "ayo these new mechanics and seriously lack of polish are shit and its woke" like a normal person
release buggy and unfinished game
remove everything that people liked about the last games (mechanics and art style)
add nothing worthwhile
ask the premium for it
Truly it's a mystery.
Started with 4 and loved it.
5 was visually too ugly for me to get into, and I prefered 4's stacks for a while.
I really enjoy 6, it seems maybe too similar to 5 to me, but its easily superior in every way.
I can't even begin to imagine how people prefer these ugly attempts at photorealist characters in 5 and 7.
6 is honestly the only civ games that actually looks "good".
I didnt buy 7 because changing leaders and civilization every era completely undermines the point of the games, but visually it's ugly as shit again.
Go back
Fallen enchantress was sick, the game is rough as fuck, but very cool and had some neat ideas.
I don't have the picture but the gist was that some bigwig went on a holiday, then came back and decided that a lot of stuff had to be scrapped and redone.
Try out SMAC
It's fucking piss
The only thing going for it is the atmosphere and common sense quotes that pseuds obsess over
Is this why nobody has remade it? The gameplay is rather simple, so it's not like it can't be replicated.
Copied another students work, said student failed the assignment though.
but someone either involved in the revolution that signed the independence declaration
like Benjamin Franklin then.
If I was a billionaire, I would grab the vox populi guys from civ 5 and force them to make the best 4x game ever made
I liked it...
Well at least Rev and VI
civ revolutions was the good shit
I played it all the time
Still better that V
Let that sink in
the quotes in 6 drive me fucking nuts
I'm pretty sure they just google searched "quote about [insert thing here]" and pasted in all of the first results regardless of how retarded it was
what is Pandora: First Contact?
And guess what - the game was shit, in no small parts due to complete failure with recreating that atmosphere and quotes
What went wrong??
Making this the target audience.
These niggas have re-released this game like 2 extra times now, once with a WH40K skin.
Same. My friends and I played that shit all the time in high school. Damn near started arguments too kek.
I'm pretty sure they just google searched "quote about [insert thing here]" and pasted in all of the first results regardless of how retarded it was
I wish. They went out of their way to take quotes from niggers and women instead of actual significant quotes like in the older games.
Jesus that’s as bad of a bad omen I’ve heard
Lol imagine being that into the "culture war"...
In a way, Humankind was THE civ killer, just not in the way AMPLITUDE thought it would be.
That really seems to be highest priority above everything else. It's not even
let's force all our ideological bullshit into the gameplay
anymore, it's
let's force the gameplay into all our ideological bullshit
Someone really sat down and wondered how they could possible force those "evil civ chuds" to play and acknowledge the civilization and leader equivalents of diversity hires and put them above civs that actually mattered. Because if they made a regular civ game and added these shitters, no one would've ever picked them.
Civ killer
Literally killed Civ
The only time "X" killer was accurate
Hopefully Firaxs takes a hint from other studios that they are incompetent assholes and creatively bankrupt and just "remake" Civilization 4
Try the game a bit after launch
Go for King difficulty since I usually go for the equivalent (monarch) in Civ4
It's piss-easy
Wait, something wrong, this is way too easy, let's retry
Select Divinity
Manage to beat all AI with all victories in a single sitting.
I first finished the scientific victory, reloaded an autosave before victory, went for cultural, reloaded, went for religious, etc...all victory achieved.
Meaning that I had the lead in ALL victory type, in divinity, on my second try.
I NEVER managed to win on divinity in Civ4 (because the AI is a cheating piece of shit).
Oh...well, I guess there is no reason for me to play this game again, glad I pirated it.
Management spending all their time and money out of office on “research” trip vacations to historical places.
Go on “research” to Peru and have a spirit journey.
Come back convinced that a huge overhaul of the game is needed and starts asking the UI to be redone leading to crunch.
How do they still have a job?
Its time
Civ 6 was better than Civ 5, you need to deal with it already.
Sid Meier only ever actually programmed the first Civ game. Long story short, he created a bunch of games in the 80s and 90s and would go on to create things like Pirates and Colonization, but Civ in particular was so popular that sequels kept being made even without his involvement.
Every Civ game has a new lead dev, usually the person who was involved with the DLCs of the previous Civ game.
Every Civ game has a new lead dev
except civ 7, incidentally
WE WUZ DOCTORS NSHIET
7 has a (large) committee
Not gaming on Distant World Universe
ngmi
common sense quotes that pseuds obsess over
I don't really remember any other game where a faction leader (that can be (You)) tell everyone else the equivalent of "fuck the future generations, let's consume all ressources now!" or another who basically say "let's eat our dead"
That's how it should've been but it obviously would've taken too much effort on the modelers' behalf.
Humankind really isn't that bad, it's just homogenous and lacks personality when heterogeneity and personality is what Amplitude is known for.
Humankind fixed Amplitude's shit combat and they're using it again for EL2, so that's good at least
you shouldn't be worried about EL2 because of Humankind. You should be worried because Endless Dungeon was what people thought Humankind was
It's because Sid Meier keeps making goddamn Civ games instead of a new Pirates game. It's been 20 goddamn years, SID!
Really, what the fuck were the devs at Firaxis thinking with this game? They have a winning formula and they decide the formula is gay and chuddy and throw it all away.
New Pirates! game
You change allegiance and ship at every port
One of the only games actually about pirates
Only 2 games, one being a remake of the original
Sid....
its stuff like whole industry has been on autopilot for a decade, and troons and fags flags are a symptom of nobody actually having real direction or passion, so basic political lobbying is the hold hand to tug on the steering wheel
Nowadays, they aren't they only ones. Seems like everyone is trying to one-up each other speedrunning brand into the ground.
Canada evolves from Either France or Iroquois
Not the actual culture it's 99% built around
I can smell the Montreal Developers
canada was mostly french in its initial colonization though
What went wrong??
Civs main point is letting me play historical civs from stone age to space age. The civs themselves are pretty much the same it;s the historical flavor that gives the most to your playthrough. Without historical background they are nothing.
And then they do the brilliant move to remove historical background
I love how there's people who so vehemently detest Civ5 but will spend time praising 6 and 7 on here. I'm really, REALLY curious what these posters are like IRL, or if they're bots.
It’s Humankind but worse and humankind was already bad
Hubris, plain and simple.
Ignored modders
ignored their own history
ignored everyone who applied who cared about the game
listened to marketers
listened to HR
listened to AIPAC advisors (oy vey no, you can't go past the 60''s!)
You get what you deserve.
To play devil's advocate, the continued popularity of 5 and 6 could be seen as proof that a big mix up was needed, 6 has millions of players, I don't know if they'd fork over $70 if it was just the same thing with navigable rivers. They just did too many changes at once, and they were all bad ones.
Initial
"Canada" was a bunch of separate colonies, the dominant ones being the French Quebec and the English Hudson Bay Company.
Initial Colonization mattering at all
Lol, and if I may, Lmao. Just ask the natives on literally any place on earth how that worked out for them.
Civ was played out anyway. I think they made the right choice going ahead and destroying the franchise.
I am sure someone else will take up the mantle like what happened with Simcity and City Skylines.
Civ VI > Civ V > Civ IV > Civ III > Civ II > Civ VII > Civ I
Stop it sweaty
I might've tried it if it wasnt One Hundred and Thirty fucking dollars.
Yea that's another thing. Civ in the late 90s -> early 2010s may just be a thing of the eras. Doesn't translate well into the 2020s and beyond.
The last civ game released in 2016 dude. 9 years between releases is anything but played out.
Every civ game alters bits and pieces of the formula, but never as drastically as VII did. The adage old Civ lead developers lived by was "keep 1/3rd unchanged, improve upon 1/3rd, and add 1/3rd". Civ VII kept 1/4th of Civ VI and changed everything else.
Indeed, a content creator should be above all that.
go to Anon Babble to see what discussion of Civ 7 there is
the Civ general is specifically only for Civ 4/5/6
there's a one month old Civ 7 thread that is a mirror to this one, a retrospective on what went wrong
go to Anon Babble's civ4x general
only a couple posts mention Civ 7
the Civ pastebin in the OP doesn't have any Civ 7 content
yeah this game is dead, the target audience for it pretends it doesn't exist
they chased amplitude's tail so much they forgot what made civ 5, the only strategy game to ever compete with counter-strike in player numbers, special
Management never gets punished. Either they themselves are the ones who would do the punishing and thus don't, or in the case of publicly traded companies the shareholders are medically braindead and thus aren't able to figure out that management did anything wrong.
Civ6 is still very popular. Usually Civ7 should have been a no brainer.
Management never gets punished.
The board doesn't really have a choice. They still want to sell five years of DLC, so someone has to make it. If you fire them all right now, no DLCs.
Civ6 in front of everything else
Street shitter detected
im just saying there were more french people than briish early on
amplitude adds quests to EL
we want quests in BE
amplitude adds city sprawl in EL
we want sprawl in civ 6
amplitude jumps off a bridge with humankind
we want to jump off a bridge with civ 7
truly embarassing
Fixaris did "remake" it in a sense with Civ Beyond Earth. Remeber that?
No
Exactly. And that game was 100 time better than Civ 7, and about 1.05 times better than launch version civ 6, too.
i gave Eve Galactic Conquest a go cuz I was wanting a sci-fi 4x but didnt want to go full Stellaris sweaty.
obsessed with starsector specifically because a lot of the bones of the game feel like they're from pirates
I'd love a new pirates but I think a lot of the charm of the game is in how simplistic it is. Trading mechanics, hunger, crew, town raids/land battles, romance, artifacts/maps/family rumors are all very simple because they don't need to be anything else.
sid knows how to keep his designs lean and free of bs mostly
Still can't play as Putin, the longest ruling democratically elected president of a non-monarchial/commie Russia
The russophobia is real
I'm American. My first Civ was IV. VI is just better than V in most ways. The quotes in VI suck ass, but I never see/hear them anyways because I always click through the prompt as fast as possible to get to the next turn.
Early on
There were a lot more natives than either early on, too.
Guess how much that mattered
Districts in VI aren't sprawl thoughbeit. They're a unique mechanic. VII actually has city sprawl as a mechanic.
yeah, and iroquois was one of the other civs that canada could evolve from
I always got the vibe that he was kind of a shit. Watching his last video where he brags about how great his life is then follows up with suicide threats really puts in it stark relief. What's wrong with these people?
Firaxis kept on copying Amplitude's games lately so Amplitude decided to make Humankind, a shitpost of a game with all the wrong design choices thanks to Sega's money to see if Firaxis would keep copying their works... and they did.
Just to add insult to injury, right before CivVII released, they announced Endless Legend II.
He's an Irish leftist. If he doesn't kill himself he's going to kill his country to kill himself.
You’re a genius Frederick Douglas would have been perfect for the DEI “have to have a darky” pick. He had far more influence in the world than fucking literally who Tubman.
If Endless Legends turns out good Firaxis is basically done
Housing should be centralized
If I took over the world I would fix everything
By the way I want to kill myself
MANY such cases
This mod works if you find them that annoying: steamcommunity.com
Okay, so the last dozen times people tried to do Communism they all failed and killed 300 gorillion people, but if I were just given the chance...
the real question is: WHO THE FUCK PLAYS CIVILIZATION?
bottom map polar icecaps
left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right,
People that mostly don't want to admit that listing "history" on their hobby is just "being entertained by information", aka watching TV.
It's only the most popular strategy game series of all time...
Ya know, I didn't pay much attention to Civ 6, so I never saw the parallels, but that's just sad. They rip anything else off from Amplitude?
Oh no....
no no no no...
Woke.
Putler
democratilly elected
Russian vodka-powered sense of humor is something else
I got it for free as a promo with my new GPU (or maybe my CPU?) I haven't installed it, nor do I intend to.
What would be more offensive, the idea that having more than one continent has become lost technology, or that they're waiting to patch it in for a DLC?
Can you prove he wasn't? Certainly more believable than EU/NATO puppets being elected with the thinnest of margins.
the era system is from humankind, but without the victory point system that made it make some kind of sense
oh and the barbarians being replaced with roaming armies spawned by city states, also from EL
colonies growing into full settlements is from ES2
influence as a diplomatic resource first appeared in ES1, greatly expanded in EL
it's very possible the dark age system is also inspired by winters in EL
they forgot to include the god-tier overview screens from endless though
amplitude is good at experimenting and innovating but it doesn't always turn out great as seen in humankind, for firaxis to just blindly copy everything they do is really just sad
these fucking straight lines and right angles
Jesus on the fucking pogostick... Please tell me that it was release blunder and later on it was fixed.
They CAN'T patch it in with a DLC because they've created this New World Discovery mechanic that forcibly locks the map generation to a "two blobs seperated by water". They can't even do Pangea.
Fair idea. But I also don’t agree. I would have bought 7 if the idea wasn’t shit. They just had shit ideas and implemented them shittily with a shitty UI. They created shit and people didn’t buy it.
Wait Civ 7 doesn’t let you go past the 60’s that a joke? Or is the joke that the game is so shit that no one makes it past the 60’s
Wait, are you for real?
These guys managed to make a game that fundamentally cannot do map generation right?
hope you're looking forward to the Information Era expansion pack
What the absolute fuck?
We want the Humankind audience but even more woke
Happy for their demise.
Civ thread that hit bump limit
Nice
You’ve convinced me. Everyone who bought Civ 7 is either a retard or a shill.
It's actually less woke than Humankind. However, the mechanics of the game are what's holding it back.
They could make Humankind 2, and just make it a Civ game without all the retarded mechanics Firaxis stole for Civ7.
Dunno, I remember it for Petrovich memes.
files.catbox.moe
That would actually be really fucking funny so I hope they do it
he might be depressed because he's a greasy unshaven hermit who plays videogames all day who got called out on shilling a shit game.
i.e not actually depressed, just bored, miserable and self loathing. it's a common misdiagnosis.
archipelago
generates massive continents
bravo firaxis
Hoping this woketard finally goes for it.
also
fractal
there's absolutely no similarity or repeatability
cherry on top
terra incognito
It's terra incognita, you fucking morons, because in latin it's nominative case not an ablative case
fpbp
What went wrong??
Heather Hazen
Civ VII devs actually put some nigress literally who as a leader because my slave war.
How the fuck is that not more woke.