This is almost as bad as charging $699 USD for a console

This is almost as bad as charging $699 USD for a console.

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Cheapest console in the market

actually just 80 max

cheapest online in the market

10 dollars actually

Controller is included

Dock is included (nice try?)

You don't need the camera

Didn't even try

Didn't even try

Man not having games for 5 years drives you insane.

if you try to be nice it's

$500 for Switch 2 + Mario Kart

$0 Switch 1 Pro Controller you already have

$10 for update BotW

$70 for DK

$70 for Metroid

you have to pay $10 for old games to use new hardware?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Upgrade editions part is intentionally misleading.

we are seeing cope levels never thought possible

Cheapest console in the market

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As long as the slutty ball's game releases on the Switch, I'm not complaining.

to be fair, everyone has forgotten xbox consoles exist

cheapest online in the market

Whoa I didn't realize Steam started charging a subscription fee.

better hardware than Switch

can run emulators for free

cheaper game prices

better cheaper controller

larger game library

can access your library anywhere through streaming using your phone

also works on handheld devices like the rog

Not to mention even if you don't already own said paid upgrade games you can easily buy them used for far cheaper. And some switch games get free upgrades.

Are PCs consoles?

cheapest online in the market

PC is free

The paid upgrades thing is actually kind of good. Any other system and you would just buy the whole game again. That's even becoming true on PC, gradually. Steam will list [game], and [game remastered], both full price.
No. The regular Switch games just work. You pay for the Switch 2 version, which by the looks of it will have improved performance, graphics, and a bunch of stupid gimmick features, like the Zelda GPS that no one is going to use.

its a avocado with an armor

well fuck you too i can't unsee it now

No, consoles are shitty pcs

This is essentially a console.
It is cheaper than a Switch 2, does not have paid online, has free emulation, larger game library, runs the entire Switch 1 library, can be physically modded as well as software modded, supports more controllers, supports more mics, supports more cameras, supports actual mice instead of twisted joycons

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The deck is cheaper

it's nearing 100 dollars outside the US

online is free on PC you retard

Instruction manual was free on the deck

Any controller can be used on deck

I just have to conclude you're dumb if you buy a switch, either you're buying it to play overpriced third party games which is exceptionally stupid or you're buying it to play mediocre Nintendo exclusives which is also stupid. Zelda and 3d mario remain the only exclusives worth playing which is hit rate lower than even Sonys shitty lineup

It's worse. People focus far too much on the upfront cost because they're awful at planning ahead, but these game prices are asinine and you just know Nintendo is going to go all in on DLC like they have been.

Just get the expansion pass goyim

The Deck is such an excuse because Deck owners waste their money on $2000 gaming PCs, while console owners have all in one for less

The paid upgrades thing is actually kind of good. Any other system and you would just buy the whole game again.

That was literally just the Switch killing off backwards compatibility. That was not the normal.

It's also got

weaker processor

horrible emulation (switch 1 game library my ass)

lower resolution

slower loading speeds

no hybrid options unless with a separately purchased stand

no support for physical games

Doesn't look like a good deal to me. But then again, I've got a desktop.

Can I install a word processor on my PS5?

The Deck basically is. All the convenience of a console with all the benefits and freedom of a PC.

But I already have a PC

The Wii had full compatibility of GC games, but also had specific Wii versions of some games.
PS5 has full compatibility of PS4 games, but will also have specific PS5 versions of some games, and free updates happen sometimes, but generally not. I own Judgement for PS4, and Sega have not offered me a free update to Judgement (PS5).
It's the same thing.

No but normalfags unironically use their phones or cheap laptops that have no use for gaming. It's either PC fags that spend double on a rig + deck or console for much less

does the Mario kart bundle include a game card or is it just a digital download? I must be blind cuz I don’t see it mentioned on their site

It's the digital download, not sure if it's preloaded or not though.

weaker processor

True

Horrible emulation

objectively false

lower resolution

it's a handheld, you don't even need 1080p

slower loading speeds

depends. games on the deck's internal drive should be just as fast. SD card games will be slower

no hybrid options

you can dock a steam deck with just a cable, the dock is not required

no support for physical games

doesn't matter, DRM free games exist on pc
physical isn't required ever if you need to back up games do it, share them do it dumbass

>horrible emulation (switch 1 game library my ass)

Not him, but I have BotW on mine, and it runs just fine.
I installed the mods that replace Link with Linkle. Keeping her warm activates my care provider instincts, it makes the game much better, in my opinion, and most of the armors look really cute.

weaker processor

Proof? Because the games nintendo is showing sure don't look any better.

horrible emulation (switch 1 game library my ass)

It runs switch games just fine. Hell it even runs bloodborne.

lower resolution

800p at that size isn't even noticeable and improves battery life, plus it's an oled screen, which is way nicer.

slower loading speeds

Oh nonono, the switch 2 has way slower read speeds.

no hybrid options unless with a separately purchased stand

Literally all you need is hdmi. Or you can just stream to or from.

>no support for physical games

Just make your own. Because you can freely backup and transfer your games. Whereas the switch 2 will be spending $90 + tip for download codes.

It's digital, they've never done a physical pack in

Funny how it took bingtendo to piss you off, meanwhile snoy, shitzzard and ea all laugh at you while going to the bank.

>no hybrid options unless with a separately purchased stand

Bruh, you can plug it into a monitor with an hdmi cable
I do this all the time

You act like me not support Nintendo means I support those scummy devs.
I do not, I play on PC and chinkhelds running mostly pirated games. GTFO of here with that team side bullshit schizo trash you have to gymnasticize in your mind

fuck me, charging $70 leaf dollars for a digital copy is horrific

objectively false

Xenoblade Chronicles 2, that's all I have to say

you don't even need 1080p

But it's a thing it lacks

games on the deck's internal drive should be just as fast. SD card games will be slower

As opposed to all games being around 1GB/s of read speed

doesn't matter, DRM free games exist on pc

physical isn't required ever if you need to back up games do it, share them do it dumbass
I already have a library of physical switch games, I'm not going to toss them in the trash because I can buy a mini PC that plays games worse than my rig.
Now to you

Proof?

The T239 has much higher TFLOPS

800p at that size isn't even noticeable and improves battery life, plus it's an oled screen, which is way nicer

OLED version costs 100 dollars more than what you posted, so I'd pay more for less? $550? I'm planning to spend that on a 9070XT.

the switch 2 has way slower read speeds

SD card hc says what

Whereas the switch 2 will be spending $90 + tip for download codes.

Factually incorrect, and again, I've already got games, the 2 has backwards compatibility.

It's 50 bucks, that's a normal price.

has much higher TFLOPS

this poster can be ignored entirely
this is the dumbest argument possible

learn about tech retard

Free and cheap are two different things you fucking retard.

It do be true though. People have been putting up with a lot of this shit and worse for years, and NOW it's a problem, because Nintendo are doing it.
And don't get me wrong, it is a problem, and I'm glad some backlash is finally happening, but let's not pretend some people out there haven't paid full price for The Last of Us four times at this point, and that some people aren't already paying 70 or 80 dollars to play AAA games.

My pc is not a gaming machine, it happens to be able to play modern games but that's the last reason I own it. The switch doesn't even effectively replace a home console let alone a desktop pc.

So you measure performance how, exactly? Does a weaker engine output less horsepower or more? Cyberpunk was already showcased running much better than its deck equivalent version.

Free is the cheapest you can get.

Any other system and you would just buy the whole game again.

Xbox BC upgrades games for free.
PS4 gives you a free PS5 copies on most games.

PS4 gives you a free PS5 copies on most games.

Saar

it's a handheld, you don't even need 1080p

Fucking amazing hearing this from Steamies. For 20 years you claimed PC had the superior framerate and resolution but now all of a sudden it doesn't matter? Even phones have higher resolution than the Shit Deck.

You can't run one test to determine performance nor can you use just a single metric. Certain hardware components can be good at different things.
An AMD card released last month is worse at rendering video than a 2 year old Nvidia card despite having more TFLOPS.
This applies to games too, some games will run better on older hardware because that hardware was designed to perform the functions the game calls better.

You forgot the $60 256gb SD card to double the storage space so you can have more than 2 100gb games on it.

Oh so now PCs are handhelds.
Damn by tower weighs nearly 100 pounds, this fucking sucks. How do I carry my monitors?

Not "most games". Some games. The Last of Us does not offer you a free upgrade.

Can't argue the MS one.

Steam lets you just run games on the fucking deck or your new build. Shit, even when you don't get a PS5 version of a PS4 game you AT LEAST get the PS4 Pro performance modes, which most of the library utilizes.

Nintendo is the one bucking the trend here.

There are no $90 games

Switch 2 carts max out at 64gb.
You likely will never see 100+gb games on Switch 2 outside of the legally required Call of Duty.

never owned a switch before, I honestly didn’t expect digital games for the original switch to cost the same as physical copies

Gonna keep it a buck with you the donkey kong game should've been about destroying a city

weaker processor

Wrong. See pic related. Compare "nvidia orin (2GHz, 12 core, 500 extra cuda version of switch 2 chip)" to steam deck.

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The largest file size of any game at the moment is Cyberpunk at 64gb.
The first game that will be 2big for a switch cart (besides call of duty) is probably gonna be ff7 rebirth, if it comes to switch 2

Not even close you stupid zoomer

In many instances the digital copies cost more.
Stores do not like wasting shelf space on stuff that doesn't move.

things cost money

welcome to the real world

I would gladly pay 90 or 100 dollars per game if the Switch 2 was a portable PS5 but its not Switch 2 is a portable PS4 Nintendo is selling old hardware like if they are selling gold

AMD's steam deck APU is older, has 4cores, vs the t239's octa core configuration, with Nvidia's custom API, it also has higher TFLOP count. It's obviously faster. If the deck had a Z1 or Z2 you'd have a point.

I don't want to pay more than $50 for either of those things.

Things cost money but Nintendo and Nvidia things cost extra money.

Got a 4060 laptop for 600€ it can emulate everything Nintendo/360/PS3...
I'm happy

This is almost as bad as charging $699 USD for a console.

don't worry anon, it will cost around that much after tariffs

It's getting ports of 100gb games like FF7 Remake and it's still going to get multiplats that end up being 100gb unless the Switch 2 versions are heavily stripped down.

Most games are going to be "too big" for the cart just because publishers don't want to buy the cartridges. Elden Ring, Bravely Default, and Street Fighter 4 are all using the Game Keys instead of real cartridges. Cyberpunk is the only third party game using a real cartridge and CDPR was the only company I"m aware of that used the 32GB Switch cartridge when they released Witcher 3. Bravely Default is the sad one, apparently 11gb is too big for them to justify buying real cartridges.

Wrong. See:

I'm not arguing the Deck is faster. I'm simply saying the means by which you measure performance are inaccurate. TFLOPS are not a metric for speed in gaming.

if the Switch 2 was a portable PS5

That technology simply doesn't exist right now.
In a few years steam deck 2 might get close to that but expect it to cost $800+
Portables will always be a gen or so behind current stationary consoles.

Barely played my Switch anyway, and regretted half of it (namely Pokemon). Easy pass.

meanwhile snoy

OP is bashing sony in the opening post.
That's what the $699 refers to.
Did they lower the required posting age on this site?

2017

Exclusively CPU performance

Lol

It's not really an equivalent, because PS5 had a flat price of 599 US dollars. You weren't getting games and subs for free with that.

OP is bashing sony in the opening post.

I see you've fallen for the "le both sides".

I don't know what you mean by "le both sides"

Need to see the price of Elden Ring. I suspect that Nintendo isn't allowing km meanies that do the key card thing to sell at $70 but we'll find out

*isn't allowing companies

Free = infinity jeets/chinks/browns who cheat and ruin your experience.

Redundant if you have a PC.
Moonlight works just fine and everyone has a phone

Being portable isn't redundant even if it's just using it in other parts of your house.

It includes the DLC, doesn't it? It will probably be $80 like the PS5 complete version and that has the DLC as a redeemable code so it's not like it's all on disc there either.

2017

That's the newest version of SPECint benchmark. The other one is 2006.

Exclusively CPU performance

Anon said weaker processor.

I'm not sure about the GPU, it's going to use the weakest Ampere GPU in existence (with only 1500 gpu cores) clocked almost 3 times as low as a laptop RTX 2050. Steam Deck's GPU is clocked twice as high as Switch's. Ampere needs around 3584 Cuda cores (3060 8GB) to match Radeon Van Gogh's 1792 RDNA2 cores (RX 6600). Switch 2's T239 has 1500 Cuda cores but clocked at 500 MHz (and will probably have disabled cores in handheld mode), while Steam Deck's APU has 500 RDNA2 cores clocked at 1GHz. Unless docked, Switch 2's GPU is likely going to lose.

Moonlight only works with nvidia cards and besides that playing games on your phone sucks. Touch controls are ass and even dedicated controllers like the backbone suck too.
It's just not a viable platform for traditional games

That's the newest version of SPECint benchmark. The other one is 2006.

The Drake wasn't out in 2017, retard. So that's an older, weaker ORIN.

Unless it wins, it'll lose

Amusing, try again.

The Drake wasn't out in 2017, retard.

Did you see the rest of the CPUs compared there? Apple M3, Intel 265K, 9800X3D, and shit?

So that's an older, weaker ORIN.

What? There's no "older" Orin. It's all Nvidia Ampere GPU + A78AE CPU, although there are weaker variants, but those are called Orin NX and Orin Nano, and not the big 2.2GHz Orin.

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Use a cellphone controller
Yes I have a 4090 and games look kino on my Samsung OLED display

even dedicated controllers like the backbone suck too.

bro you gotta at least read the entire post before replying

What did you expect?

The only game for 80$ is just one. Blame other companies for starting the +60$ price for games.

Again, blame the other companies. You don't need to buy the games again and most have some DLC to be worth it.

The cheapest in the market, and one that isn't infested of cheaters and bots.

Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour is just 5$, should be free but you're crying for 5 bucks.

Pro controller being more expensive. Don't Buy it. Why do you need it?

Dock is already included and it's 110$, price justified with the fan and 4K capabilities.

You'd complain anyways if the camera was included making the console 500$ base. People would say "Make it an accessory".

Never used them more than for some skins for Smash Ultimate. Games gave you 20 cents for each big title. You can't get anything free with those points. It was a scam anyways.

You don't even know that LMAO. Coupons are part of NSO

blame other companies for things nintendo does

Why are tendies like this.

Nintendo takes the worst out of every company's practices and ape it.

price justified with the fan and 4K capabilities

My Steam deck can output and 4k without a dock at all. Fans for PCs and such cost ~$20 if you're buying the best of the best fans possible.
The dock does nothing other than output a signal and cool the switch. This is not a $110 piece of hardware. It's $30 tops and costs maybe $10 to manufacture, MAYBE.

Yeah and they are still bad practices regardless of who did them, when they did them, or if they did them first.
What the fuck are you even arguing?

I'm not a tendie like the other anon. I literally said nintendo is the worst version of every company.

are the coupons actually gone?

That's not true and very hyperbolic.
They are one of the worst video game companies but even then they're not the worst.
Bungie has a fucking insane monetization model for Destiny 2 and removed content people paid for from the game. It's gone you can't access it at all.
Quinfall's developers work alongside gold sellers/spammers in their game. Devs don't ban and get a cut. They purposely make their game worse for every player.
Ubisoft, which needs no explanation.
Then there's companies like Riot that have you install literal spyware to play their games.

Again Nintendo is bad, but they are not the worst.

You will buy it to play the latest Zelda

I own a switch 1 and already own TotK.
I didn't beat it, game is too tedious. I don't need another Zelda. Give me some new IP that isn't wheelchair based.

what does camera addon do

botw and totk weren't very good, why spent $580 for a new zelda when you can play genshin for free?

adds on a camera

for what

>can run emulators for free

about that...

Also

If you use bing they give you enough money for free gamepass or AAA slop

eyetoy games in mario party

>Cheapest console in the market

the PS5 is cheaper and readily available with a vast library of cheap second hand physical games.

I do this

Whatever people did with the kinect and eyetoy
aka spend 30 mins with them and then set them aside.

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A new PS5 with a disc drive is still $500 which is more than a Switch 2.
The drive is required to access the cheap physical games.

what sort of mental gymnastics is this? xbox is $400 and ps5 isnt more expensive for equivalent version

Who normalised 60 dollar games? That's already too high.

A new PS5 with a disc drive is still $500

it routinely drops to 450 euros
on the other hand, in Europe the Switch 2 will be at least 500 euros for a while
realistically you can't play the switch is cheaper card.

What mental gymnastics?
A PS5 with a disc drive is literally $500, a Switch 2 is literally $450.
$500 > $450

Yes an Xbox Series X is cheaper than a Switch 2 but that anon specifically said PS5.

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fallacy

I do not care about sale price. I care about right now price.

No one has ever bought a series s.

Tendies are really having a hard time defending their multi billion dollar companies shit decisions.

Not really. You're mad now, which is fine, but you should have been mad years ago.
Also, in the UK certain PS5 games like Gran Turismo are already £70 for a digital copy. Switch 2 games are actually going to be cheaper than that.
This is ALL bad, but don't only develop standards when Nintendo are doing bad shit.

Nobody wants to see their fucking face in the game.

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There's I think roughly 30million Xbox Series' sold.
Microsoft has said the majority of those have been Series S and not the Series X.

Not true, I liked how Tearaway did it.

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Voice chat and game sharing is free on Xbox, no reason for that to cost money. I can also get on my PC and join parties with my friends who are playing on console for free too, and access all of the social features.

E Q U I V A L E N T you fucking monkey
does nitendo switch 2 have a disc drive or cartridge reader?

not really

no that's literally a fallcacy i cba to look it up
i've never owned any console in my life i pirate all my games you are a fucking retard

Good thing I'm not stretching my imagination.
$450 will always be less than $500

Why weren't you shit talking all of the other expensive games, for years now?
I'm glad the energy is finally here, but where was it?
Who normalised paying a fee to play online?

Good thing I'm not stretching my imagination.

PS5 disc version 1tb + Astro bot is $450 right now
the Switch is $450 MSRP and literally impossible to reserve right now for less than $500

I almost cared then got reminded that i invested in a pc 5 years ago and i basically have been playing the switch 2 for years 4k60fps with delocalization and uncensor mods for so many nintentroon games.

It is gonna be 699 after tariffs

Ok now we have to do a little more math
is $450 greater than, less than, or equal to $450
I'll give you the $450 price point for the PS5.
But you can't preorder the Switch 2 at all, anywhere. There's no reservations or anything. If you see any they are false. They do not open until next week.
And they open at $450

Id rather just sit in my chair and play games rather than lug around something the size of a Gamegear.

$10 paid upgrades for old games to use new hardware

Now that's big time pro-jewery!

Higher framerate is also paywalled

Install new PC part

get FPS and resolution bump for free

woah crazy

Sony has been doing the same shit for 5 years

When was the last time you were this incensed about Xbox Live, or micro transactions?
It's ALL a problem, but you only seem to think it's a problem when Nintendo does it.

How is that not literally good? I've bought Metroid Prime three times in my life, and each time it cost more than ten dollars.

see link in

When was the last time you were this incensed about Xbox Live, or micro transactions?

i dont give a shit ive never bought a game in my life i'm just pointing out to you that you are a bootlicking subhuman ape

Yea because it's not like Nintendo is the first to ever do it or anything.
And I bet you all clapped when they did.

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cope
$450 MSRP is not irl $450

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Right. You only give a shit when it's time to be mad at Nintendo. Curious...

I'm not licking anyone's boot. I'm saying they're all bad, and should all have this level of backlash, all of the time. When are you starting?

This was released a little over a year after the ps3 version.
Sony did it with a few other PS3 games, it being paid upgrades.
They've been doing it for decades.

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youre as much of a bootlicking faggot as anyone who pays for video games or internet access
now with the ad hominem out of the way
why are you such a billionaire gigacorp apologist?

>cheapest online in the market

So we just lying now?

Point out where I did this.
I said you should have been madder earlier, and at a wider variety of people.

Yeah but suddenly when Nintendo does it, it's the worst thing ever. I just don't get it.

Your entire 'argument' is whataboutism because you are a tendie faggot who only cares when Nintenjew gets backlash and you want to dilute it, you're not fooling anyone.

playing jeetshit games

acquire taste

I said you should have been madder earlier, and at a wider variety of people.

Right. You only give a shit when it's time to be mad at Nintendo. Curious...

When was the last time you were this incensed about Xbox Live, or micro transactions?

Who normalised paying a fee to play online?

Why weren't you shit talking all of the other expensive games, for years now?

Not really. You're mad now, which is fine, but you should have been mad years ago.

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No, you misunderstand.
It was bad then, it's bad now.
Nobody is excused.
If someone calls out Nintendo specifically that does not mean Sony gets a pass. They are criticizing the act itself.

I'm saying criticism where criticism is due, and criticism aimed at everyone equally.
You're a platform warrior. We're not the same.

They should have delayed the release until July because all they have for launch games are ports and Mario Kart. It's the worst launch Window I have ever seen outside Playstation

free isnt cheap anon haha

So we just lying now?

lol first time talking with nintendobros? Switch 2 preorders go from 499 to 599

"logical fallacies" are made up bullshit to deflect when you get called out. No one cares, Melvin. We're not in debate class.
Directing me to a wikipedia article on a logical fallacy is an appeal to authority, by the way.

plays everything for free on any controller with any camera with infinite amount of storage with mods

why would i buy a console?

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Well so far Nintendo is the worst by far, they one upped every other corps scummy practices until the people's breaking point it seems which is why they're getting the most backlash. They didn't even wait for GTA 6 and Rockstar to start. That and their history of litigation and copyright strikes and ruining people's lives, it's very easy to hate this company especially as I grew out of bing bing wahoo

western tendies are cucked and mindbroken enough to literally pay to give out free Switch 2s in Japan

Is there anything more pathetic than an Americunt or Europoor buying a Switch 2?

"logical fallacies" are made up bullshit to deflect when you get called out. No one cares, Melvin. We're not in debate class.

Personal incredulity is a logical fallacy where someone believes a statement must be false simply because they cannot imagine it being true. This type of reasoning ignores evidence and relies solely on personal beliefs or feelings, making it an unreliable argument.

nintendo doesn't sell in europe outside of UK which is just a US colony
europe is twice as populous as USA and even including UK which is 70-80 mil people i dont remember it's still about 60% of the revenue

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They pushed something a boundary that had already been pushed, and is about to be pushed further, when they normalize $100 games (which they're already talking about doing).
You should have been this mad when $60 games happened in the first place. Because that was where things started to slip, and they all saw they could get away with it.
You should have been angry at the first rollout of Xbox Live, and Valve selling hats.

The overwhelmingly negative response this bing machine is getting makes me think it's another Wii U, it'll be 299.99 in a year with 59.99 games

It's still selling more than Japan according to that image, yet Nintendo is forcing very market to pay for their Japanese sales...

I don't care, Melvin.

They can't do that without raising Japanese prices. They are just gonna eat the loss and let the console die outside of Japan.

I did, people didn't, but now it seems they've reached their limit and this is too far especially for a piece of shit tablet with technology a decade old already

population japan: 120 mil and 60% of that wears adult diapers
population europe: like fucking 800 mil
you can see that it's like 6x as popular as in europe
i'm euro

Because the performance you can get out of a $500 console is better than the performance you can get out of a $500 PC.
This isn't the case forever but on or near the release of a new console it is true. Why is it true? Because manufacturing at a scale allows them to do so and console manufacturers can also sell at a loss making it up with software sales later.

MSI selling me a GPU does not have that luxury. They will make less SKUs of that specific GPU and will make no money off software please stay true forever and let no company charge for drivers or some shit

I've been hoping all this gen that Microsoft will just flip the switch on the Xbox Series X and allow it to be used like a PC. If it doesn't happen with their rumored handheld it'll never happen.

yes for about a year
keep in mind you have a carryover case and psu and storage

Because manufacturing at a scale allows them to do so and console manufacturers can also sell at a loss making it up with software sales later.

well you've spelled it out, whatever you save on the hardware you'll pay in games, but this is only true for 1-2 years after the release cycle and nobody forces you to buy a pc at that point of time

I've been hoping all this gen that Microsoft will just flip the switch on the Xbox Series X and allow it to be used like a PC.

just microsoft selling a desktop PC that's tailored for gaming i think it'd be insanely popular
they probably dont' want to do that because their partners would bankrupt

>Dock is included (nice try?)

the image says (included)
?

$550 after tariffs

$600 for bundle with mario kart

$640 after tax

$660 after with nso

$760 with pro controller

for a console with performance equivalent to ps4 from a decade ago

tendie assumes that anyone who isn't a fanatical Nintendo bootlicker must be a snoy

Why are they like this?

after all that it still cannot play Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst

$120 dock (included)

Why'd you even bother?

It's a $40 price increase over the original with the only addition being a single fan.
I have two docks for my Switch 1 so I am interested in buying a secondary if I get a Switch 2.
I have one at my desk and one in my living room.

20-40 sub fee for online

That's the craziest. Would not get it just because of that.

6k+ bought in the past month

and it is only the 4th
imagine how many will sell by the end of the month

cheapest current gen console

ps5 is $350 used anywhere.

Comparing a new device to a used device is not genuine.

Because you already paid for it before and now you have to pay again to change the performance settings on the upgraded system?

Dock is NOT included

yes it is faget

Yes, moron.

This has been debunked

No but for the companies they do, why do you think Sony keeps PC from getting their third-party exclusives so much? And now it's giving away all its first-party games?
It's because they see PC as a direct competition in the same way that Xbox and Nintendo do, they see a big market to invest in as well

the gayest thing about the switch is it's going to be a port machine from the ps4-ps5, and they are going to charge $70 for 10 year old games. gay as fuck.

Ports are fine. I'd prefer if they ported much older games though.
Give me shit from the Wii or Gamecube.
Where's my Skies of Arcadia, Pandora's Tower, Rune Factory Frontier, and all the Monster Hunter Games????

how much is nintendo paying you to be their cock sleeve?

it's actually a good thing!

ok, journo.

A lot, Anon is the reason Switch 2 is so expensive.

Ghost of Tsushima is also paid as is God of War , Days Gone and Horizon.
I think Spiderman also has a paid upgrade path.