Which way, western man?
Catherine or Katherine
the third option
based on looks only
blonde
femcel fantasy game
maybe men and women are not all that different
we both enjoy abusing and tormenting people of the other sex, albeit in different ways
girl who genuinely cares about you but can be stern
or
girl who is a literal succubus and is using you
It's not a hard decision
Both.
I pick Cashy
The chips are stacked in C's favor so much it's not even funny
SPACE TOURISM, BAYBEEE-
which one has the cock?
I'd say the stats are just steered by people not willing to cheat on their girlfriend
In the original Catherine comes across as a kind of rude and not very affectionate girlfriend, In Full Body they added a few scenes to show the origins of their relationship and the good times before the turmoil
Yes but remember, Catherine can project your dream girl. So she would look different in your case.
Exactly, it's Catherine because she's pretty
The demon pussy that comes with a succubus harem
girl who shit tests you, lies and gaslights you
or
girl who is a literal succubus that actually falls in love with you
ftfy
When I first played the game I picked K, but I went with C this time and it was a much better choice.
boring ass used up foid pussy or always tight supernatural demon pussy
C. I pick C.
unironically endorsing fucking literal demons
what the FUCK happened to Anon Babble? Fornicating with demons would've never been accepted even a few years ago
We're not in the 1500s anymore grandpa. Demon pussy is the meta now.
sacrilege
Why was Mutton there sleeping with them anyways
Real life choice is Freedom
Fantasy choice is C, making a succubus fall in love and lead you to overthrow her daddy? sign me up.
I just find K unattractive, in both looks and personality. She is still more than Vincent deserves though.
Absolutely retarded they gave C the family man ending in full body.
So you're basically telling me you wouldn't have sex with Catherine? She clearly has the pussy gripper 9000 in her 100%.
She probably would fuck the soul out of you, eat it, then insert it back inside you anally.
So you're basically telling me you wouldn't have sex with Catherine?
...you're seriously asking if I would fuck a demon? No. No I would not fuck a demon. How is this even a remotely difficult decision?
Ishtar end is objectively the best end
I just want love and stability, don't give a shit about sluts so K.
The manipulating bitch lied about pregnancy, that's a big red flag. I choose the succ.
Wasn't it a false positive
I don't remember it being a lie
The only choices are if you want Katherine, or want to shoot right past Catherine to become the demon king.
I have a hard time believing anyone actually likes Catherine.
I mean. I'd believe some of the people here would, but, they couldn't manage a relationship with either, so...
There is no such thing as a false positive with these tests. False negative can occur once in a blue moon. I suppose a false positive is possible if she had miscarriage shortly after taking the test.
I hated that new ending in Full Body because they basically gave C all of K's good points so she just ends up as a best of both worlds more fun version of K.
False negative can occur once in a blue moon.
Usually due to user error that is.
Catherine, since you lust for it.
based
Katherine because I'm an ass man. ass>tits always
How does the story explain she's not actually pregnant? Once again i don't recall her confessing it was a lie
why is the one with a cock the best one ? how can japan keep winning like that ?
I don't want a whore so left.
Both are fiercely retarded and annoying.
acts like a spoiled brat and violently assaults Vincent when he tells her to fuck off
countless dudes of all shapes, sizes, and colors have been going in and out that crusty used up demon pussy since the beginning of time
Yikes! I'll just take the bitch with the glasses thanks.
There absolutely are you disingenuous retard.
I know because I fucking got a positive as a teenager when me and my retarded friends thought it would be funny to get some because we were idiots. Unless that baby is still stuck in my balls, that alone is proof it happens.
I liked Catherine. True Freedom was the best ending by far though.
Katherine, easy. She was only being a bitch in the game because Vincent had been stringing her along for years at that point. If anything that just speaks to her loyalty. In an actual committed relationship she'd chill out.
in my balls
anon, what do you think the test is searching for ?
tfw never reached sufficient bro levels to piss on pregnancy tests for a laugh
She still doesn't tell him that it was after she realizes that.
This
She's on edge because Vincent has been heel dragging. Maybe for understandable reasons, maybe not, but life circles on, and every day he's NOT shitting or getting off the pot, is annoying to her.
your boyfriend cucking you after year of relationship and you being pregnant
let just tell him actualy i lost the child
lmao what could go wrong
I haven't played the game, is pic related actually a troon?
yep you just got spoiled
Catherine, but I think that's because the game goes out of its way to make her seem more appealing than Katherine
It's like a few lines of dialogue
There's 0(zero) signs of it
It's just for the "haha you got your cherry popped by a girl who used to be a guy"
Completely irrelevant, you can just ignore that and consider she's a regular girl
yep, you just got spoiled
YOUUUUTUUUUBE COMMENT SECTION!!!!!!!!
just ignore the flopping penis right in front of you bro
there is only one ending
why is the one with a cock the best one ?
1. dicks are objectively more aesthetically pleasing than vaginas
2. the one with the dick just happens to have the best personality
Catherine all day
Girl who looks like a girl, sounds like a girl and acts like a girl for 30 hours
At the very end go "haha actually used to be a guy"
That's not how this works
You could do that with any character ever
Based.
Garbage for fake Cfags
model a woman
voiced by a woman
call it a man
You just know there's a reason they didn't give >her any masculine features or the usual man tranny voice.
Let's just make C into K
They don't do a good enough job getting the player invested in K to overlook C's attractiveness.
People are lying, this is what she looked like a few years back
When I first played this game I picked Katherine with true ending.
Nowadays I realize Vincent should dump his gf and go to space.
Katherine is emotionally strong serious wife type so I can see why guys would be turned off by thay
Who there anon, lets cool it with the anti-demonic remarks
Succubi are practically the modern day version of elves.
Freedom
low test
No. Having sex with a demon is wrong. Heck, even conversing with a demon is bad news. Y'all have been so corrupted by demonic-adjacent propaganda it's scary. There's still time to repent and follow the correct path.
Don't know what your slang lingo means, but interfacing with demons is a BAD thing. Nothing good can come of it.
Neither.
Full Body's added flashbacks showing, you know, why Vincent is with her in the first place does a lot in her favor.
Trayyyyyyynny
Reminder that in the true good ending he never trooned out.
Okay, the joke has gone on long enough, you can stop now
Isn't this what K wanted the whole time but vincent wouldn't commit to?
Full Body for Steam when?
joke?
You know
When you really think about it
Angels are demon adjacent. You shouldn't commune with them, either.
Just imagine, you're hanging out with an angel, y'know, they're saving you from car crashes or winning you the lottery, or whatever angels do, then BAM that sumbitch falls and takes you with them in 3 seconds flat
Really shows who was the problem, marriage adn children are fine as long as they are not with her
Was Full Body's script faithful to the original besides the additions?
Then, when he does, he leaves him in her ending they don't even have kids
Still vincent, K was never shown to be mean or unreasonable
Just emulate the Switch version.
K was never shown to be mean or unreasonable
Did we play the same game?
Low T.
Yes. Give examples
Vincent is just a male roastie who wanted to fuck around more before settling down
To be fair there were some hints about it throughout the game
when troon says "as a girl" everyone snigger
when that new guy says he find troon hot everyone just awkwardly laugh and try to talk him out of it
etc
glasses and sweater puppies (unfortunately lost a toe)
psycho demon slut with a literal body count in the hundreds, maybe thousands, tries to murder you and K when she gets BTFO (also drills A SHIT)
(non-canon) little queer twink faggot alien, honestly just not really a fan of his gay pink haircut and everything
go to space and uhhhh that's cool I guess
For me? The choice is clear.
Catherine is constantly treating vincent like shit. It's the main reason he cheats. Did you actually play the game or not??
Catherine always puts work first.
They dont live together.
Shes always cold towards him.
Snaps at him constantly.
Lies about being pregnant.
No emotion when she finds out you've been eating rins ass out.
The relationship is LONG dead and is a walking corpse by the time we the viewer come along. Vincent is just going through the motions.
Catherine USED to genuinely love vincent from looking at them in the past but something happens we dont see and they essentially become strangers forced to be together.
Even Catherine's new ending for full body is her going back in time before they originally met so that they can be together longer and in the Hope's she wont fuck it up again
Don't forget eric(a) getting the nightmares too.
I think they would both make me want to fucking kill myself (and they wouldn't like me in the first place anyway).
The re-release doesn't exist by the way
Angry incel.
K-atherine
I can see people not getting anything from the way the guys act towards him but the dream is way too much of a "this is a man" flag for me to excuse people saying that it came out of nowhere.
Yes
(also drills A SHIT)
Childhood is going with Katherine. Adulthood is realizing Catherine makes more sense.
Why was he giving nightmares to men anyway? I forgot already. Women are the one who control birth rates. They could get sperm donors if they really wanted kids
Yes sorry my auto correct keeps putting it as C instead of K
best girl's route is trapped behind an alternative challenge game mode, not part of main story
in english release the game mode is completely broken and unsolvable for some reason
nobody even talks about her cause they put a trap in the rerelease.
ishtar is a goddess of love and sex like aphrodite
her underlings are the ones causing this shit because they think men are trapping women in childless relationships and wasting their fertile years.
Sorry maybe Catherine being such a filthy skank made me feel this way
also I forgot Ishtar
Dumuzid's sloppy seconds
Pass!
Yeah I'm thinking that's a wife
Weren't incels and neets also getting killed?
qrd on this autist larping about hating demons?
I have no idea man. He's just ruining the thread for me desu
One of their gay questions was "Would you have sex with a ghost?" I'm not sure what that has to do with commitment, but Yes is for milf Katherine and No is for psycho Catherine.
The original is the real version, only niggers like Full Body
You're taking a guy who doesn't know what test is seriously?
>in english release the game mode is completely broken and unsolvable for some reason
Never finished Babel, qrd?
Katherine is not using you
Cant tell if bait or retarded
rin
opinions from troon slopper doesn't count
There is a ending where you can go of on your own after all. Both girls come with downsides.
Katherine 100%
no one likes a cunty career woman
Catherine is literally just the SMT Law/Neutral/Chaos dynamic hidden under the veneer of waifus, the game tricks you into actually thinking about your future, meanwhile Full Sloppy just gives both girls a good and had route and turns it into standard waifushit
Theres a certain point in the english release where blocks don't drop correctly, and it is impossible to create a path with what you get and continue.
Bro just EDGE
tfw no bossy bitch gf to nag me to take better care of myself and control of my life
Katherine 100%
no one likes a cunty career woman
huh?
her underlings are the ones causing this shit
They're just doing their jobs that she gave them. The guy in the confessional is one of Ishtar's avatars or alternate forms.
I forgot which is which, the game is years old
Katherine can provide for you by herself
Just stay at home and make sure the house doesn't look like a pigsty and your life will be so fucking good. Why would anyone NOT pick her?
Katherine is the career woman.
Catherine is the laid back whore woman.
You can tell the difference by the sharpness of the first letter. K is more sharper and angled than C, which is rounded.
Idk I'm autistic. That's how I see it.
because shes a cunt
The true, good and bad endings were already a thing in the original
FB only added a law leaning married with children ending for C and a chaos leaning single and sluttier with a personal army of simps ending for K.
I thought that at first but blue is more stern and pink more slutty. so I thought blue was Katherine
t. also autistic
To me it just comes across as her being that way because Vincent is just constantly aloof and running away from his responsibilities
Nah. She wouldn't settle for a NEET. Vincent is a codemonkey himself, so he probably makes good amount of money.
Maybe Catherine would, since she's basically a tradwife.
All her complaints make sense though, hanging out getting blackout drunk at bars every night is kind of a shitty thing to do no matter how old you are
i mean, technically Catherine is also a career woman
she keeps doing her succubus job even when you get with her
All career women monkey branch
Based
Katherine is literally perfect. I wish I had a girl like her to push and challenge me into being a better person and advancing in life.
forget about women, I'll just do my own thing.
This is the best ending.
She says she'll provide for both at the beginning of the game from what I remember, think it was during the scene at the cafe. They're both working currently at the time but I assume after she popped out a kid or two Vincent could retire.
easy for him to say, he's already lost his vcard
I went with bitch with glasses + marriage route. No regrets.
I have never ever seen a more rigged poll.
Space ending
Modern 3D women are shit.
Anyone who hates or is threatened by Katherine is an inherently selfish individual who is either afraid of change or doesn’t want to take responsibility of their life and is just fine being a ball and chain to someone.
femcel fantasy
What?? One of the endings is that you marry the succubus, btfo her dad and become the king of hell. The other is leaving the wenches behind and going on an adventure.
A man getting a positive pregnancy test means he's got testicular cancer bro. This was years ago so you must already know and have treated it, assuming you're not ripping that off from this story
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Do people actually believe this lol.
t.roastie hag
The answer is in the game.
excluding the bad on of obvious reasons Vincent just look so much happier on the Catherine endings that on Katherine endings.
This is the anti-demon LARPer, he got tired of that schtick and is trying something else.
be literally king of hell
Vs
tied down to a roastie hag
I can see why
You're looking at it the wrong way, Catherine's good ending in the original is Vincent in what is essentially an open relationship with her, its not a traditional relationship but her whole route is about being non traditional. In FB it gives her an ending where she goes back in time to be your high school sweetheart and you get married into a wholesome monogamous relationship and have 5 kids, it misses the point entirely
Don't know if I'd say all that, people might have their reasons, but I don't think she's quite as bad as she's made out to be.
Btw this is actually an alien and the picrel is what its true form looks like.
Why was Rin even added to the new game? Plus why as alien with a false form?
Peak tranny face
Every atlus rerelease adds a new waifu for extra content so you buy the game twice.
Peak trannybrain
Katherine is the career woman.
roastie power fantasy, as if she doesn't fuck Jonny behind Vincent's back
michelle ruff
SEXOOOOO
laura bailey
shut the fuck up succubus rise
jonny
kek that loser isn’t pulling Queentherine in this life smoking cigarettes with his tranny fucking friend sitting next to him
cope, even the game hints at it
dev was so triggered that there were people that didn't pick her that he created a new ending where she didn't have the flaw of unable to conceive and have her stay faithful
Like, damn.
It's just fatlus rereleases being worse than the original every time. The target audience is cattle.
western man
Japanese made made in Japan and set in Japan and Japan Japan
nani?!
I have not really seen Katherine endings posted. Anything good in them?
she has a point
It was Katherine for me. Part of the reason I hate Full Body is because it stacked the odds way too much in Catherine's favor because I think Hashino or someone on the development team was upset that Katherine had a slight lead.
Gamers, my ex-wife was a total bitch, wasn't she!
Actually she seems like a nice lady
FUCK YOU GAMERS YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE MY BACK ON THIS
I chose Catherine solely because that bitch tried to trick me with the pregnancy. Catherine was a whore, but atleast she just wanted fun. Also a forced relationship because of obligation is always bad.
Vengeance is empirically better than Vanilla but otherwise yeah
always go for the supernatural being
Was Vincent actually a good catch?
t. roastie
glasses
Disgusting. It's not even a choice.
In the original both choices had their merit, but K was better. C's ending was too much of a silly SMT reference to be taken seriously. Though Space was better than both of them.
In Full Body it's C and it's not close. They made C way better and gave her a new ending that's the closest thing to an objectively "best" ending there is, and K actually got WORSE and it's basically confirmed she and Vincent are objectively terrible for each other and would be better off with anyone else.
glasses
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
if you find him attractive I guess, he seems reasonably amicable and we might as well assume he has a stable career
April fools ended a few days ago
I picked ‘atherine
he never trooned out.
kek i forgot about this.
Who the hell doesn't like girls with glasses
No he basically got lucky getting a highschool sweetheart and cushy job everything else about him points to being a loser unironically
I guess I'll quit joking around and let it all out...MATING PRESS KATHERINE AND CUMMING ON HER GLASSES EVERY PAIR
Her endings are primarily about her finding her own freedoms, and she cucks Vincent, realising the relationship was going to be Toxic either way. Even in her true ending, where she marries Vincent, they don't show them having kids.
but interfacing with demons is a BAD thing
same as most fun things in life you pussy, no one cares about your morals
People with taste.
Adding glasses was one of the most basic bitch ways to make someone look uglier for a reason.
Sane people. Glasses on a girl are one of the biggest red flags. I've never seen girl in any form of media or real life where they aren't a problem.
Yeah Eric stayed Eric with the support of good friends that made him feel accepted. Even though they got married in the equivalent of present day, he's still a happy gay guy.
So yes, they're unironically saying that trannies are just depressed losers looking for something to "fix" their shitty lives.
I still find them legitimately ugly. Literally everyone looks better without them and their only appeal is the contrast that comes from how much better someone looks with them off.
Space because fuck both of them
cucks vincent
Even in her true ending, where she marries Vincent, they don't show them having kids.
Yeah I see why the Catherine kids ending gets alot more responses and memes/edits.
Even though they got married
fr? then that's worse, fuck atlus, you ruined my mood.
Glasses are literally just a debuff
Fuck neither of them more like
I NEVER PLAYED THIS GAME AND NOW I’M MAD RAAAAAH
Vincent and Catherine did. Eric is just there supporting his best friend.
B-b-based....
Just watch the ending, it's less than 5 minutes long.
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K ends up with Vincent's friend Paul who died after cheating and failing in the original timeline
kek
it's just like chaos vs law, chaos is just law with extra steps
oh thankfully. Hashino is very anti-lgbt he did it in all his games, but Atlus is covering his tracks with updates and remakes. All the persona games had a tranny hitting on the boys. and Naoto is a tomboy who accept her girly side.
No one is threatened by an annoying and demanding cunt, we just want rid of them
How is the PC port for this? I had this game on my radar since release but I never got around to playing it
They're pussies remain already fucked by Vincent by that point so doesn't matter already won
I am at a point where I can't even conceptualize a perfect girlfriend. I can't imagine a woman that would be worth the cost it takes to get and keep one.
Even in an alternate timeline, Johnny still can't get with Katherine.
And she's still a bitch. Maybe it's time to accept that K was the real problem.
?? I don't enjoy abusing women, despite all the indignities I've suffered at their hands.
I can't imagine a woman that would be worth the cost it takes to get and keep one.
When you realize all women are the same and just there to be baby making machines, you will figure it out.
poop eyes
eww
C all the way.
This shot really sold it for me, that Catherine is his actual partner and not just a succubus doing some kind of silly wish fulfillment.
But I would just only care about how they look like and wouldn't even consider them to be a real person...
Catherine doesn't follow law vs chaos, its order vs freedom,
people just call them that because the neutral ending is called freedom and L/C is memorable for atlus players.
*AHEM*
pussies are just shriveled up dicks
when you see it..
Why is it that way? Were our brains rewired to relate glasses with being smart? After all brain is sexual organ, and retarded women aren't sexy.
Nah, Space is "Freedom".
K represents buckling down and "growing up" to fit into the role society and your partner wants you in. It's responsibility.
C is the opposite, someone who isn't content with that and rebels against the norms. Someone who's fine with a non-traditional relationship.
But I would just only care about how they look like and wouldn't even consider them to be a real person...
And that's how it was for most of history
Even Full Body with the new K and C endings can be seen as K Freedom and C Order. Part of the reason I honestly despise Full Body.
I liked how there was balance in the original game but Full Body just tips the scale fully in C's favor.
remember the aimless manchildren making this game were so assblasted over people choosing an attractive serious trad woman who wants to settle down instead of the turbowhore that they had to deliberately make her seem worse in the remake and make catherine more appealing
I never played Fullbody but didn't they make both choices just whatever you prefer instead of Katherine being the good choice?
This
Vincent is a loser with almost no redeeming qualities, besides a job he lucked into, and probably couldn't get again. I suppose you could say, luck is a redeeming quality, and he does have that.
Katherine SHOULD have, by rights, dumped him years ago.
you can beat it in coop mode on your own
t. friendsless 2 controller soloer
post tits
It's funny they were so asshurt by this they completely sabotaged K's endings in the remake turning her into a cunt girlboss and made the literal whore succubus into a tradwife.
No, they made K worse in multiple ways, made C more understandable and just straight up gave her a better version of K's ending.
K's new ending meanwhile she literally dumps Vincent and runs off with some producer while he's left alone and crying, I'm not even kidding.
Left looks like she'd step on your balls in high heels, right looks like she'd eat your ass. Sp depends on my mood, really
sunk cost (time) fallacy I guess
what the fuck
K already was a cunt girlboss in the original to some extent, but there was enough left to the imagination that you could empathize with her. Now the game straight up spells out for you that she's bad for Vincent.
Fullbody new endings are just very extreme versions of traits the girls showed in the base game.
True Freedom chads
I've fucked and sucked countless men to death non-stop from the start of time to now b-but I'm ready to settle down with you Vincent-sama
Catherinekeks...I guess you're better men than me.
K's new ending meanwhile she literally dumps Vincent and runs off with some producer while he's left alone and crying, I'm not even kidding.
I'll be back! As a better man!
Wtf he gets cucked? Lmfao
who tops
Vincent is such an irksome, pathetic loser. K treats him like a child, which is exactly what he is. At the same time, how could anyone allow themselves to be treated like that? People like Vincent basically do what is expected of them (get married) and harbor a deviant, secret life on the side. Cool game, but frustrating to play as a character like Vincent.
and retarded women aren't sexy.
Yes they are
Succubi are allowed to get away with that more than human women as long as what they did before was entirely due to their nature/job.
Pretty much. Meanwhile in the new Catherine ending pretty much everything goes right for everyone except maybe that one friend who had the hots for Katherine as I don't think she goes with him in the new timeline
did the dev have a cuckold fetish or something? This is unbelievable. God what a shit rerelease
So Katherine is for normalfags, is that what you are telling me?
both Japan and the West made games where you romance the succ into a tradwife
they came out within 2 years of each other
Interesting
C is supposed to mog K in every regard physically. Also having 4 toes is weird.
he simply wanted to push his waifu C and was mad that people preferred K
spoiler
Just like me...
He should have made C more likable in the original then. Or at the very least try to keep K and C as viable options, nerfing K just makes you look bitter.
shouldn't have wrote it so that C turns into a monster that tries to kill you a ways into the game then
Be careful anon, the slippery pipeline is real.
Owlkeks are turbocucks though...
waifufagging your own game
I never heard of this before. Interesting...
Arue is a fucking cheat code since she literally gets a virginal mortal body from a goddess.
Though maybe C does too with that time travel stuff, I have no idea how that works.
No
Almost assuredly, the dev/s felt satisfied he had stacked the deck so C would be the favored outcome, then became irrationally upset when people still preferred K, so went out of his way to completely sabotage K in the updated version, funnily enough, by essentially reversing their roles.
You can honestly see the deck stacking bias in a lot of the questions with how they're phrased, with K options often getting more extreme language like always or never, that someone is likely to lean against on principle.
Or ghost fucking.
brother
Really goes on to tell you a manipulative cold bitch would be offputing for a any man for tying the knot with such.
Can't unsuck a dick, much less hundreds of thousands of them, sorry. I don't care if you use time travel to "undo" it.
Nah, it completely fucks all over the atmosphere and character dynamics. K and C are made aside to push the tranny every other cutscene.
NEVER
FORGET
*unsucks your dick*
this one was acceptable because Lightning is a cutie PITootie
Tradfags picked Catherine
Trannyfuckers picked Rin
So who is Katherine for? Cucks?
You're reading dumb shit on here too much, Arue never cucks you. Ever. Even if you go Aeon and delete yourself from existence, she still never fucks anyone else.
The Octavia and Regongar stuff in Kingmaker absolutely is cuckshit though.
Not really, they would probably get cats and dogs instead of children (or worst case scenario adopt) after marriage because she's a strong independent woman.
strong independent woman.
desperate to get married to her man
hm
People who played the original and didn't buy the updated version
time for some math~
More like desperate to change every fiber of his being and turn him into a lapdog.
Guys who want a surrogate mother figure in their lives.
Interesting view on marriage. Bad parents?
Doesn't matter because the body that took those cocks doesn't exist any more, Desna remade her into a mortal. She'd cum from a gentle touch like a virginal schoolgirl now.
Remember to praise Densa today.
He IS a lapdog you mong.
He has NO redeeming qualities as a human being. He is below average in just about every way a man can be, except in the ways that he is sorely deficient. He's the lowest common demonimator, barely fit to be called a man. He lives a life of undue fortune and unearned comfort. He's too pathetic to even BE a lapdog, because he's too scared to climb into the lap, and it takes literal magic to change this.
Catherine grabbed the knife first
Nope. It's just the vibes that woman gives off. She's a pump and dump at best from my interpretation of Vincent's view. He didn't really care much until his conscience was biting him after cheating in his mind.
She's him for the looks, obviously. It's called physical attraction, and her only goal was to "tame" him.
Catherine, because she didn’t lie to me about being pregnant.
That was a step too fucking far.
SUCCUSISTERS DON'T LOOK AT THIS!
space
everyone is kinda trash in this story now that i've replayed it years later
She's him for the looks, obviously
Isn't that what relationships are basically? At least for women now that they can earn money.
honestly true
3 most important people in the world are me, myself and I
Lionhearted chads
Real talk now. When they finally get down to business and she fucks the main character do you think she is able to stop herself from thinking about all the demons with footlong cocks that fucked her before? At best she will pretend to be having fun.
Money doesn't matter, Vincent's a broke bum. For him it was a daily routine to be berated by her and brushing her off. If he completely changed and conformed to her will, I don't think that it would work out. He would basically be pretending like an obedient court jester.
You should need the IQ to play Monobeno in order to post Natsuha pics.
The best endings in this game are fucking off to space and going against minion angels to get the sweet boipuss.
for me it's soft ghost pussy
Honestly stabbing that hellspawn whore was based as fuck, she teleported into his apartment completely uninvited. Score one for mankind.
K was always meant to represent real women.
Katherine
She's loyal, ready for impregnation, and YES fusses at you to change because she CARES about you. She wants you to become better.
Catherine is just a fling. She's a whore bro. You'll fuck for a few months and then she dumps you for someone else. All she does is indulge in your worst habits.
fusses at you to change because she CARES about you. She wants you to become better.
Imagine a guy being abusive towards his girlfriend because he wants her to become better.
You'll fuck for a few months and then she dumps you for someone else. All she does is indulge in your worst habits.
She gets so into your human dick that she starts ignoring her duty as a succubus and defeat her own father to makes you the ruler of hell.
Someone didn't play the game.
woman who's the whole reason you're a loser in the first place wants you to get better so she bitches at you
while ignoring her and going through your own actual life's trials and standing up to the challenges is what actually betters and frees you
lol
I’ve never seen so many people champion and defend an actual demonic whore (Catherine(bad))
buy this for pc since havent played it in a long time
game literally doesnt fucking launch
try and fuck around with a bunch of shit
still doesnt work
amazing game atlus
Because they've never been in a relationship so they just think SEXSEXSEXSEXSEXSEX is all that matters
I champion True Freedom/Rin's Heavenly Ass. K is still the worst choice of the three though. Literally the low self esteem braindead simp route.
You were filtered even before the game started, not a good sign.
I've been in enough relationships to tell you if you have to kill a part of yourself and "make a change" then it's not going to work out.
Once you realize and fully internalize that women are disgusting animals you also realize that indeed SEXSEXSEX is all that matters.
I went for C because it kinda fit that entire Vincent the leader of the sheep during the dream sequences thing he had going. Never forget the game basically gaslighting one of the guys into accepting it was his fault he got molested and should apologise for running away from his "momma"
You know, howcome the tranny wasn't a sheep too?
Catherine and Demon Vincent boss fight in SMT when?
It happened to me.
What do women have to offer besides sex?
if you have to kill a part of yourself and "make a change" then it's not going to work out
quite ironic from the people who love C for her miraculous sudden turn from demonwhore to tradwife
Is Katherine just a metaphor for women who think that you cheat because it came to them in a dream?
He was having the nightmares near the end, you just never meet his dream form.
The rerelease doesn't even have to exist for the Kfag/roastie cope.
Space Tourism Ho!
growing up and getting your shit together = killing a part of yourself
huh?
I agree IRL roasties can be horribly monstrous more often than not and enjoy tormenting men mostly just because they can, I know putting all your complete trust in a modern woman is more than likely suicide.
Still impregnating Katherine with many baby.
If i had to choose Catherine easily
Have you seen a woman do that?
You must be new then, and have never seen a general succubi/demon waifus thread.
Because they've never been in a relationship
and I'm sure you have. A very long and successful one at that, mr.relationship guru.
She's him for the looks, obviously
What
Vincent?
That shabby motherfucker?
Bro, Vincent ain't handsome. I mean. It's cool if YOU like him, sure, but, he's not like. Any metric of traditionally attractive.
And dafuq do you mean "tame"?
What is there to tame?
Again, this is barely a man. Even in his friend group, there's better "men" to "tame", what?
Yep, 4 years running
I'm sure she'd love the end result when she turns him into a m'lady fedora tipper.
for her miraculous sudden turn from demonwhore to tradwife
she literally keeps being a succubus and tells you she'll keep doing it
Did you even play the game?
She does look good in that turtleneck
if i could i'd give my fanny to this fedora wearing boi that has a giant mouth like 60 people are in
killing your freedom and potential for a boring wagie job for some roastie
yeah
vincent wasn't anywhere near old or realized enough to tie the knot.
I chose Catherine, who dumped me and I got hit by a car. That was in my 20’s now I’d pick Katherine and pump so many babies in her.
Is his full head of hair or an approachable face what's keeping him from being attractive?
Katherine
She's a cold bitch but she cares, and the story makes it obvious that Vincent basically let her slip out of his fingers over the years by refusing to advance their relationship or life situation at all. She would have been fine if he didn't just want to like like a bachelor forever
Vincent is unironically the best lay in his friend group. He's the only one who's not a total piece of shit and actually has something resembling a future ahead of him, even if he's a bit too much of a noncommittal manchild.
MC is an angel who are canonically superior in the art of true FUCKING. Demons can't compare.
MC is an angel who are canonically superior in the art of true FUCKING
Super gay. What western faggotry is this?
Demons are fallen angels, so it stands to reason that they can be converted back to the side of God.
What's a time tested, reliable method of conversion? Marriage. So we should all fuck the word of God into tight demon pussy to reverse corrupt them into good angel girls.
I thought Johnny was alright, like he owns some auto shop that toby works for him, until the plot revealed he is basically the man who got cucked to death
he's not bald or a literal troll, so he's attractive
I... I'm so sorry, anon.
Vincent isn't really that attractive. He's not repulsive, sure, but, he's not a catch. He's a shabby looking dude. Nothing really wrong, but nothing really good. He's pulling like. A 4.5 on a good day. Maybe a healthy 5 if he practiced some self-care.
Vincent
sub5
HOLY COPE
He's Spike Spiegel if he real. I'd say a 6, a 7 if he worked out.
I think that's just because Vincent and Katherine's relationship is basically already over. You can commit to her and patch things up, but that's precisely what it is, a recreation of what was once a purer, genuine love. Accepting K means accepting the realities of life that Vincent was denying the entire game, and that means responsibility, and while they can be fulfilling, they're almost never fun. It's way easier to paint the C endings as fun because eloping with a sexy demon lady is already fantastical, by comparison getting married to your long time girlfriend is never gonna look that good
sub5
Do foids really
why'd they make the human one sexier than the succubus
Left
the only unattractive side of vincent is when he soifaces
he soifaces a lot in the game, but literally everyone looks like a 3 when they do the monke grimace
Spike Spiegel
Lol, Vincent wishes he was Spike Spiegel. I can see Spike and Katherine being a better couple more than Vincent and Katherine though.
Vincent's P3P sprite is pretty sexy THOUGH.
The tranny unironically
Trve Nevtral CHADS get to go to space
Trve Nevtral CHADS get to fuck over both heaven and hell and travel the cosmos with their idol wife (male)
C is supposed to mog K in every regard physically
the devs failed miserably at that
Succubus are cool
the devs failed
smol tits
never shows skin
the "im better than you" stuck up tier glasses
suit pants instead of a skirt
literal trash tier woman
spoken like a guy who has never been in a relationship with the i-can-fix-him type. They'll never be satisfied with what you are no matter how "fixed" you get
Its a clearly a prostitute releasing fan fiction for men into cuck and NTR anon
midriff
HNNNGHHUGH
Catherine has better waistline, better tummy and bigger boobs. That's her whole point.
Spoken like someone who hasn't been in a relationship at all
oh wait, you're female I get it
Then why is she less attractive?
I directed Vincent to impregnate this sex bomb at every opportunity, demon, tranny and space fuckers need not respond
Because you touch yourself at night.
He's a spineless tool, but he does seem to attract a certain kind of woman. Then again, his major squeezes are:
- a transvestite alien
- a woman who spends 5 years with him in a casual relationship then tries to convert him to husband when she's too old to do better. Also lies about being pregnant, though I think she did this after she figured out he was cheating and just wanted vengeance so a bit less psycho
- a succubus required to like him as her job. She's definitely a psychopath too
To K, not C.
Why is this?
Wouldn't they both be better off if they just broke up?
delusional
I don't think K's a completely horrible bitch nor a perfect lovely angel, I think she's human and perhaps just about as imperfect as Vincent. He's something of an indecisive fuck-up that smokes and gets piss drunk all the time but not necessarily a bad guy, she's something of a bossy bitch that could perhaps stand to ease up a bit on Vince and makes some big mistakes but I still feel deep down she cares.
Something I personally got was it's sort of about what you feel, do you think your choices gave you what you wanted? Do you think it'll all work out in the end? I feel like it sort of leaves you with the uncertainty of life, and all you can really do is believe in the future and hope for the best. At least for the original endings.
because you like men?
Is he a troon? I thought he was an alien
Do cute girls like Rin really fall in love with you just by being kind to them?
Nah, thats Rin. The pink haired cuntscrote.
Nowadays? No. It takes more today than it did back then.
there are people who would unironically choose to be in a loveless marriage with a cunty career problems glasses who hates everything about you instead of being the king of hell with an ever expanding harem of hot demon babes
this is the alien
Did you forget that most of that starts with Vincent becoming stagnate and Catherine pushing him to better himself?
Catherine is pretty plain looking, tbdesu
Katherine is WAY hotter
Are we sure that's not why Katherine scored higher?
I'd agree if that's what the game was telling you, but in reality they're both the issue and it'll never work out
Holy shit, Katherine is a man?
you are weak. your genes are weak. year family is weak. you will not survive the winter
Ah okay, My bad. So is there a troon in the game? I don't remember and I played the original back on the ps3. I just remember the shitposting when full body came out
catherine looks like a 19 year old girl really into rozen maiden and deathsmiles
thats hot as fuck desu
she scored higher because people are moralfags and fell for the baby lie
Catherine is pretty plain looking, tbdesu
do you think webm related is also plain?
She scored higher because of the virtue signaling about muh marriage and responsibilities. The whole game manipulates you to feel bad.
Potentially
post overrated trash gym leader normie trash
god, grow some taste faggot
Yes, Rin has a dick, s/he's a full body only character.
K scored higher because most men are betas and the women who played it would never go for C
The waitress is a tranny. That alien is also a tranny.
It's popular therefore....BAD TASTE
Imagine telling someone else to grow up
You posted someone that looks closer to Katherine than Catherine?
I don't understand what this is supposed to be?
the alien has a dick too [/spoilert]
Erica, pic related, also has a dick [/spoilert]
If that were true, Katherine should have scored at least around 75%.
She didn't
the one that's actually feminine and not masquerading as a man
She scored higher because I guess nobody wants stinky blown out used up cum-encrusted ancient succubus roast beef. SAD!
I thought the alien was smooth like a Ken doll?
60% vote for K
probably around 5% of players female
It was his first time, but Tobias can't be that dumb.
my thread is almost to bump limit
very nice
Childhood was wanting Katherine because she seemed like the mature mommy type
Adulthood is realizing Catherine is the better choice but Katherine is a manipulative cunt that lies about being pregnant and constantly nagging Vincent like Catherine just loves you and wants to have sex
Katherine has a
Poisoned womb
"Most men are betas" should put that at 70% by itself, anon.
Especially if we're already starting with the demographic of "men who would play a sliding block puzzle game spinoff of a jrpg series to completion".
nta but are Kfags just blind? is hair color the only way you can differentiate women?
hags literally cannot cope with the eternally tight eternally 17 year old succubus pussy LMAO
Nah, I'm pretty sure when Vincent first look at him naked he calls him a dude.
I want her cunt to manipulate my penis, perhaps STEAL some semen from it if you catch my drift.
HOLY MOG
Common Catherine W.
Catherine mogs so fucking hard it's funny.
Katherine is a low test pick. Simple as.
>It's popular therefore....BAD TASTE
not only is she trash
she's ALSO popular trash
I wouldnt say anything if you liked Marnie or even Hex
By betas I don't mean gets no women, I mean beta providers.
The fact that the majority of players are shutin males who've likely rejected relationships puts the K down.
The alien isn't a tranny.
Vincent just assumes he's a girl a and never asks.
Sagacity is wanting to see Rin's cute pink dick and pubeless rosy balls.
I want to watch
which was the one with the penis
There's 0(zero) signs of it
yes there is, every time the younger guy says he wants to date her everyone looks uncomfortable. then when the game tells you about the other tranny (purple hair) she was the only one who knew about it because they're in cahoots as trannies
anyways great game 8.5/10 probably my fav from atlus.
Neither. Full Body never happened.
See you space cowboy
scroll up a bit
The one with the penis
All yours man, Steve and Freddie or whatever were already there so I just don't find that too appealing I'm afraid.
I thought Anon Babble hated rin
Does your flrshlight know you cheat on it withe the tenga?
One thing no one is saying is that those pools results change based on region.
Katherine wins in the west, Catherine wins in Japan and Rin stays in the middle.
The percentage of those two does an almost perfect reversal between regions, Rin stays with almost the same score.
Psycho stuck-up cunt
Psycho slut
...
A girl with a dick that loves you unconditionally and will do anything for you
>A girl with a dick
dilate
inb4 muh linetrap
kys
she's literally an angel bro
she
Frankly I thought you fags liked him more. Personally I just never really liked his design and I'm not too fond of penis.
japs yet again with top tier taste
what else is new
I'm going to Space
Why so hostile?
No matter the situation, a wo(MEN) with a dick is still a guy and I'll take the crazy chick any day. Sorry anons I don't like trannies
RED-BLOODED AMERICANS prefer Katherine
microdick degenerate japs prefer Catherine
Yep. Yep.
Nah I'm an american and I while I tend to dislike blondes, catherines large healthy breasts and her nice character make her the better choice
Why are Americans so simpish? The Japanese fuck girls like C every day, the Americans let the Ks shame anyone who dares.
Shares the same taste as creature such as the French
I wouldn't be so proud if I were you.
I think its kind of telling that Vincent never considered marriage with her in 5 years and is broadly into it when the subject is brought up. Also noteworthy is Katherine isn't really that interested either; she spent 5 years with him in a casual relationship before deciding she was getting too old and tries to forcibly convert him into a husband.
Neither party is truly that interested and both parties must deep down realize they can't get someone they truly want and must be pragmatic. The writers never seem to realize this and so instead made up a bunch of bullshit saying "Psyche! They're actually ideal all along!" At least if you're retarded enough to not notice the red flags.
japan has the 2nd lowest birthrate on the planet
Because their college students are on the pill and use the money they get from their daddies to get abortions when needed
And American has the worst.
no we have tons of niggers and spics that have tons of kids so ours is relatively high compared to west europe or ne asia
What's going on with the wiki?
I travel quite a bit and the real answer is that the youth are focused on "growth and advancement" Nobody wants to settle down or do menial jobs. The men and youth working career jobs don't see the point in spending on others and spend more on games, media etc than ever. This has lead to the stupid old men at the top bringing in at first chinese, and other asians. Now out of desperation they're trying to get people to like jeets. Problem is nobody likes them. I went like 2 months ago and while they're still there it's really settled down.
way too many artists give shirona huge breasts to the point i think more people than not think its canonical
i hate that mature == ginormous milkers as if small chested women are invalid
It's not the wiki. Google just fucking sucks ass now.
i thought the alien had both
I blame the current culture of "UM SHE'S ONLY X YEARS OLD!" Nobody used to care. I remember when you could go to big cons and see lewd art of all the eva girl, the naruto girls etc. Now everything is so gay.
Katherine exists to drain Vincent upwards
Catherine exists to kill sheep
Rin exists
Erika exists to drain Toby
it's cultural thing
japs grow up with girls all having black hair
merimutts grow up with girls having dyed blonde hair
they both want the rarer type
To drain what? He's dicking toby
the "noble" chose, Katherine
but damn, I definitly prefer Catherine
Eh
That isn't helping, sure, but it's not the core problem. That only really cuts down on a small number of single mothers, and bad marriages niether party actually wanted, with maybe a rounding error's worth of good relationships that would have produced happy, healthy, and well-adjusted children.
The core problem is people have to work too hard to have a stable living to add the extra two shifts that raising a child is, with the added layer of that stability being very unstable.
Nobody wants to have kids in an unstable environment. Nobody wants to have kids they'll get to see 3 hours a day at most, that will probably end up poorer and with fewer opportunities than you already had anyways. Everyone wants to wait "until the right time". And then they're too old.
35 isn't too old to have children.
At least if you're a man.
I like Kaths design/looks
and that's all that matters
Karen Katherine
Katherine fits way better in that image, tho.
yes anon, Katherine DOES look like a basic bitch
basic women don't look like Kath, they look like Cath
stable, clever, supportive woman who wants your children
vs
demon whore who fucks taken men in night clubs
What premature midlife crisis would make you choose the latter?
desperate hag with a drying womb baby trapping you
I THINK I might be pregnant
OMG SHE FUCKING LIED TO US HURDUR I AM SPERGING HATE KATH HATE KATH
stable
we played the same game? unstable nutjob that constantly tests you, literal psychotic behavior
basic women don't look like royal bitchiness, they look like Unicorn
keep telling yourself that
Too old to have more than one, maybe two kids.
Declining birth rates aren't a product of people having NO kids, it's a product of not having enough.
In a perfectly stable population, every single family has two kids, that make it to adulthood, find a mate, and have two kids of their own. Every person that dies before they have theirs, every incel, every sterile person, every gay person is another out of this group, and would shrink the population.
A stable population thus generally, actually needs 2.5 kids per family on average, that .5 accounts for those losses. If you want growth, you need at LEAST 3 kids per family, 3.5 is a healthier bet.
And again, each of those is an ADDITIONAL financial and stability burden. After 4 kids, even a full-time, stay at home parent with no health or fitness conditions cannot provide all of their needs, so the cost and stability burden actually begins to increase exponentially, as caretakers, larger properties, and so on become required.
These things are entirely out of reach for the average person nowadays. The kind of house you would need for a family of 4 children is no longer attainable to the common man.
show me one (1) person who actually looks like her
protip: you can't
and a skibidi ohio to you too
protip: you can't
more like, i won't bother searching
I can understand picking Catherine, I can understand Rin, I can understand picking celibacy.
How the fuck do people gaslight themselves into being Katherinecucks? The rare time they voice something it is weird femdom narratives about a controlling dominatrix feminist somehow pulling you up (lol, lmao even).
Entirely deserved for anyone picking Katherine. The game is a red flag simulator and somehow half of the player base is colorblind.
I accept your concession (as I knew you would)
Bigger families are impossible to support on a standard middle class budget. This is a wholly economic issue, it's instinctive to have less children but make sure each is cared for and educated properly. Economic support would do good to help this, but it's clear that'd also lead to a dysgenic situation where the less desirable breed like rats for the paycheck and fail to answer for it.
Megane girls are always shit
GAS GAS GAS, NO ONE CAN LE THINK FOR THEMSELVES IF SOMEBODY AS MUCH AS TELLS YOU SOMETHING
total zoomtard death
since you keep defending K, i'm now wondering who you like in Persona 5
would it be pic related by any chance?
No, I have not played 5, but it would likely be pic or Haru
Katherine, Karen all the same
Yes, we all know how it's a zoomer thing. It's well known that in history before zoomera (or even moralists, the bible, etc) we encouraged women micromanaging the lives of men and having all authority to lie as much as needed to get what they want.
Wheres the option to ignore the pyscho, whore, and tranny and find a new cute normal woman?
There's no such thing as a normal woman.
my stepmother does
Good thread Kbros and Cbros, Rinfags and Ericafags you're gay as fuck but still heckin valid 100 love you fags.
It's 2025, and it was 2015 when it came out.
Katherine is the "normal woman". That's what you can realistically look forward to, except with 4 more points of BMI.
Top left looks like a man in drag
pick out really cute school girl
she becomes bitchy office nag
why are women like this
what a downgrade from what she used to be
Anon...
love ronalda mcdonald with a dick
it was 2015
2011
Why hasn't Atlus made as a compelling game since it's been years
She's not bitchy, she suggests Vincent should stand up for himself, almost all the people who always keep shitting on Kath exaggerate almost everything about her, and the devs likely hate her as well if Full Body is any indication
same reason they don't dare make another trauma team
I-it wasn't....
Cope
the manipulative controlling cunt that uses the worst lie known to a man in order to entrap you
or
the magical being that falls so much in love with you that she changes the timeline to be your highschool gf and give you five kids. Also likes anal.
Such a difficult choice.
The only way you can make Cath look better is by lying over Kath like a woman does
even in the original it wasn't difficult
I dont think you played the game and only watched videos on youtube.
I’ll go with the angel/alien who likes you just the way you are and sees the good in you.
youtu.be
Woooow look how bitchy she is
This
Wants you to change
Magically forces you to change
Takes you as is
This ain't hard
Cat is the litimus test for millenials and zoomers with mommy issues that need a cringe dominating mommy figure in their lives forever to whip them since they are perpetual children
Real men want submissive women, we alread have to deal with enough shit as a provider, conflict based relationships (tug of war) are a fucking nightmare.
T. someone who actually experienced sex in his life for over 17 years now. Yes im old, yes i know more than you.
Damn right.
posts the start, to prove that she isn't a bitch
yea, now play the rest of the game
when did she use magic to unwillingly change vincent?
Ever thought that maybe the reason why it looks like the devs hate her is because the people who hate her are right and you are the one downplaying her issues?
women should be like cats, not dogs
A submissive woman is, nonetheless, pretty much a unicorn. You don't get that today. Best you can do is a compromise.
Only BPDs enjoy coming back home to a BPD bitch that'll scream her lungs out and maybe cough up some of the cum she swallowed earlier that afternoon though.
Reminder, If you played the dub or only know the english script then you don't know the character very well or at all.
They exist
leave california
Kat*
The glasses bitch.
Get the succubus that knows her place, that is what I meant
Cath is worst choice
I'd fucking take Eric(a) over this boring bullshit
I am le basic looking succubus but I am actually completely loyal to you and shit tee hee
Feminist hellhole of a life
vs
Sweet sub girl that has a good relationship with her father
You didnt play the game.
Not even the Full Body game.
tell me how I am wrong, also I played Classic (but I can't get past the first boss)
Angel/alien who likes you the way you are.
Catherine is so heckin loving and good for Vincent
smashes his ribcage to dust when he tries to get rid of the crazy bitch
No thanks, back to hell whore.
look the new ending for the succ
thank me later for your change of mind
he can't handle a bit of roughplay
weak
ATTENTION ALL LOW TEST MALES, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A CUTE BIMBO, THERE'S ALSO NOTHING WRONG WITH A RESTING BITCH FACE BEUATY. STOP BEING FAGGOTS AND ENJOY BOTH
What about femboy bussy?
Fence sitters are worst than faggots