How do you counter this?

Strobe lightsaber

Mocking greentext:

making your presence known to the Jedi

ever

why dont they just make a gun that shoots lightsabers?
or better yet a huge lightsaber canon
checkmate nerds

what would stop the opponent to just stab you in the face while you turn off your saber?

not in the prequels

Why don't they just use their lightsabers telepathically? Be like a mile away and then move your saber around steathily until you find your target, quickly turn it on and off to kill them, then move on.

if i was a jedi/sith what's stopping me from force grabbing the other guy's wrist so they can't swing their sword? Like a force parry if you will

like this

Jedi Nigger on the left stops moving and let's himself get stabbed

Forbidden move

By being force sensitive. Force users aren't expert swordsmen, they can simply sense intent or physical presence. It's the same reason sniping force users doesn't work. They'll "sense" your presence, intent, then sense the high velocity plasma bolt traveling straight for them and react accordingly without ever actually seeing or hearing any of this.
So if you plan to do a move like this, the force user will read your intent and simply jump away in the middle of your swing instead of attempt to block it before you can even do the move.

That's how sith fight

Jedi seeing the future my ass. All 10,000 of them couldn't see Order 66 coming. Sidious the strongest sith lord couldn't foresee vader throwing his ass down the shaft

The big problem is everyone is so focused on their pre-existing styles and training, and sticking to honorable combat, that no one considers it or thinks it's dishonorable as put it. The trick could work if you caught someone off-guard with it in a fight, but knowledge is everything: if your opponent knows you're a tricky shit that doesn't care about honor, it would greatly devalue the capabilities of the trick. That and the experience of the foe, since the Force could inherently warn someone of something afoot.

Which makes Qui-Gon getting a saber smack to the face extra hilarious and Obi-Wan learning the lesson particularly effective.

Just do what most real swordfighters do and do attacking parries/blocks.

He turns off his lightsaber to get past your block

You carry through and cut him in half

turn off the only thing preventing you from being eviscerated by a laser sword

smart

Not using retarded guards that would break your wrists and disarm you in actual sword combat would also be a good idea

it would work if you could predict when the other fighter commits to an outright defensive posture as opposed to simply meeting your stroke. like the takes where the guy is holding his saber horizontally and completely stops his forward movement.

Sidious the strongest sith lord couldn't foresee vader throwing his ass down the shaft

That's because he was too prideful. It's literally his most glaring weakness, just like sauron from lord of the rings.

All 10,000 of them couldn't see Order 66 coming

The good ones like Obi-wan and Yoda had a strong feeling but didn't believe it could happen. Most of the jedi counsel at the time was somewhat corrupt and incompetent.

they put lightsabers on ships nowadays
youtu.be/4voUHigz7wY?t=80

why not attack the other when the breach is open?

anyway the premise is stupid from the very beginning

it's like saying that the jedi are attacking the lightsaber with their lightsaber not their opponent body

if the 2 dumbasses are attacking their own lightsabers then yes OP's gif would work

Lightsaber combat as depicted in the movies is beyond stupid anyway. They act like they are slashing weapons that require force (the unit of power not the mumbo jumbo magic) to cut anything. They should be fighting like fencers, after all, you literally just need to tap the other guy with the saber to wound them mortally.

has the reality of space as a hostile environment ever been portrayed in starwars?

Yes, for example in that infamous scene where Leia flies through space.

How do you counter this?

By going through with my initial swing against the guy who just turned off the only thing preventing me from tearing him a new asshole?

Yoda basically spends the whole time saying "hmmm bad shit me sense, but clouded the future is..."

there's a reason only jedi handle sabers, keeping control of one is a battle in itself, it's like wrangling a strong magnet.

Step back and sweep his wrists? What's supposed to be so hard here

You swang expecting to block.
You're off balance now.
You die.

Throw the light sabre like a javelin

why is he swinging sideways? every movement shold be attack on body

Who the fuck swing a weapon with the express purpose of getting blocked

Not Anon Babble but the second you retract your sabre you're making yourself open. It's a forbidden move because it isn't practical.

be aggressive on offense and avoid any neutral blocks. if the other jedi attempts it you must both be killed in your follow through as a deterrent.

Is there such thing as forbidden by common sense anyway?

Makes no sense.
It's forbidden because it's deemed as trickery and bad sport.
If it was just something stupid you'd get fucked from doing it, nobody would every care to forbid it.

Wear light-saber resistant armor. Use cartosis if you want to be specialised against light-saber, phlik alloy otherwise.

It's forbidden to dive headfirst in the kiddie end of the pool.

This is solved by making the light sabers take a second or two to actually switch on.

why is he swinging sideways?

Were you expecting low IQ mongrels to know how to actually fight with a sword?

The menace must be phantom

Why don't you just have the lightsaber switch on and off 100 times a second and also be 30ft long

Why didn't they just turn alderaan off and on again to dodge the death star?

Force users are literally just semi-omniscent. Anything of relevance in their immediate surrounding is known to them the nanosecond it happens/intent is formed. They are truly semi-omniscent because they can also sense the most significant events in the galaxy as they're happening. So again if you're going to walk up to a jedi with a hidden explosive on your person with the intent of suicide bombing them or some other "unfair" battle tactic, they will generally "sense" your intent and your plan will fail. You need to have incredible willpower to trick a jedi into misinterpreting your intent, especially during a fight. This is why the greatest blaster users can actually shoot jedi, because the jedi cannot properly interpret the strong will of the blaster user and what he plans on doing.

More importantly, why don't they make guns that shoot actual lasers, not this pew pew shit that flies slower than bullets and can't hit the broad side of a barn?

Whoa... just like my japanese anime's killing intent...

my nigger the clones were literally lining up a firing squad while master dickhead was completely oblivious. That shit isn't even seeing the future. It was happening in real time behind his back. Seeing the future my ass.

boring answer: a lightsaber can't just be turned on and off willy-nilly
when turned off it has a cooldown

also boring answer: gentleman's code, you don't use tricks like that

I think there's a bit in Rogue One where a ship gets torn open and the soldiers inside get sucked out.

Where did you think lucas got it from?

uhhhhhhh Sheev was clouding his mind from 1000000000 miles away obviously! it's like poetry it rhymes

70% Dune, 30% Kurosawa movies.

They don't turn on and shut off very fast, and being without any defenses for about a full second is just a shit idea. Just sit there and mentally picture that long-ass shhhhwph noise they make when they're put away and the KShhvvrrrrrrrm when they're pulled out. It's not fast.

Better question: from the lore, we know kinetic weapons like actual IRL guns go right through lightsabers, and Mandalorians do that, so why don't people switch to those? Imagine how deadly a Jedi would be if they used a gun and used their Force sensitivity to become the universe's most deadly sharpshooter.

Something about resonance vibration sci-fi shit does weird shit to the physics and usability of lightsabers. Fencing swords/foils whatever, they weigh basically nothing and are really only for stabbing; lightsabers have killzones down the whole blade, are "weighted" like an actual sword, and your opponent has the same sword as you.
Also, cauterizing wounds means you're effectively only killing someone if you hit a vital organ or lop off an important limb, and even THEN that's not a guarantee considering Anakin's missing 3-ish limbs, and Maul was sliced in half and fell like a thousand stories.
You try going in for a stab that would make them bleed out in seconds, but no, now you're sliced in half and your opponent gets that hole fixed in the same day.

Yoda or some other jedi idk literally drills the point of "do not let your mind be clouded". Pride, anxiousness, battle high, etc. gets in the way of their ability to properly sense. Ideally a jedi must be calm and collected at all times, but also not be so far up their own ass that they are too calm. But you can also just be so fucking force sensitive that you can't help but always know what's happening even if you're barely paying attention, like Anakin was during battle.

I imagine they dont do this as some kind of honor system.

Why not use the force to fly a whole bunch of lightsabers into your enemy and turn them on so close to their body its impossible to block them?

If being tricky and rude was why people don't do it, then the Sith would do it all the time.

Isn't the Order 66 thing supposed to have been some subliminal thing not even known by the clones themselves? I forget if that was the retcon or if them KNOWING they've got a secret order is the retcon.
Either way, if the clones themselves didn't know they were going to kill the Jedi, then would the Jedi sense their possible killing intent regardless?

Star Wars is gay retarded shit that only appeals to the most normalfag of "nerds".

let me turn off the only thing thats stopping the other guy cutting me in half, thats a cool trick! (the other guy also has near instant reaction time btw, but there's no way i get punished during my 1 second of complete and utter helplessness)

That's not how parrying works you dumb curry nigger.

The whole jedi-related part of Star Wars setting is completely pants on head retarded in general.
Realism in fiction is not about existence of realistic entities, but about common sense in relations between whatever fictional entities are present, and that setting absolutely doesn't give a fuck. Effectively it's a fantasy and not a science fiction.

This would only work if your opponent was targetting your sword instead of you, because otherwise all you would end up doing is removing the only thing that's stopping your opponent from cutting you in half.

That's just JAMP with lags

there's a reason only jedi handle sabers,

But that is not true dummy. Non only non-jedi use lightsabers but there are also non-force users that use lightsabers as well.

Cad Bane

General Grievous

Pre Vizsla(and other mandalorians)

Han Solo

Fucking Finn

Sabine Wren

The Bedlam Raiders

they weigh basically nothing

Not true, but I don't see how a "light"-saber would be a heavy weapon

are really only for stabbing

Not true. The way of fighting that focuses on stabbing was developed because it was the most effective way to disable your opponent while keeping yourself nice and safe. Maximizing distance and all that.

lightsabers have killzones down the whole blade

As do rapiers. They absolutely could cut flesh.

are "weighted" like an actual sword

Rapiers are actual swords.

have killzones down the whole blade,

As do rapiers.

Also, cauterizing wounds means you're effectively only killing someone if you hit a vital organ or lop off an important limb, and even THEN that's not a guarantee considering Anakin's missing 3-ish limbs, and Maul was sliced in half and fell like a thousand stories.

That is just plot armor shit. There is no way you are surviving a hole in your body with the diameter of a lightsaber and even if you survive you can't fight making it really easy for someone to finish you off.

Real answer

In sword fighting, every strike including parries and ripostes are aimed to kill. If you turn off your lightsaber against a "blocking" opponent, in reality he'll simply follow through with his parrying strike and smack you in the forehead. Using your weapon as a shield is something that only happens in movies or heated situations where you're not even really fighting anymore. You need leverage against your opponent's strike to even be able to defend, the amount of static strength you need to fend off a full force blow is much higher than what the attacker needs to simply blow through.
Also Jedi reflexes

Retarded EU answer by people who haven't considered what sword fighting is actually like for more than 2 seconds

It's dishonorabru and only used by evil nasty Sith and it has its own style called Trakata.

Jedi is the plural of Jedi

It's space opera. Stop seething jeez.

Effectively it's a fantasy and not a science fiction

Like all the good ones. Flash Gordon is better than "the adventures of finding something to do for twenty years because you don't have FTL"

uh umhh uhhh... uhhh... THEY JUST SEE IN THE FUTURE THEY GOT SHARINGANS N SHIET

SW is so fucking shit

Why don't Jedi use the force to press the button on their opponents lightsaber to turn it off? Or just fight one handed and use the other to force choke?

Why even bother using lightsabers when you can simply crush your enemies with telekinesis? Since force is so powerful Jedis can just kill a person using it bare hands, so why lightsabers are so important?

Rapiers and many other swords are actually frequently not sharp all the way down. A lot of swords are only mostly sharpened towards the end, the main bit you hit people with.

So true!

jedi have foresight and supernatural reflexes if you shut off your lightsaber for half a second they'll just stab you in the face

they are swinging slow for demonstration sake, but if they did it in full-swing, the other guy could switch from block to stab in 0.2 seconds, while the other is being busy retracting the sword and making himself completely vulnerable for 0.5 seconds

Yellow>Red=Blue>Purple>Green>>>>>white is for mary sues

objectively correct lightsaber ranking

A huge lightsaber cannon

Wasn't that literally just the Death Star?

Jedi seeing the future my ass. All 10,000 of them couldn't see Order 66 coming. Sidious the strongest sith lord couldn't foresee vader throwing his ass down the shaft

There are 2 different kinds of prescience there is one for the immediate future and one for the long term.
Predictions further out are not certain, predictions in the moment are easier to read.

Wear cortosis armor

Get that wrist flamethrower from Jango

There, you can now btfo most jedi/siths

Why is it everytime I visit this shithole I see the same threads?

SHITloni

A very rare good take from a 'jak post.

It'd make more sense to use them like military sabers if anything. Or something akin to sideswords i.e. keeping your hands further back so that they don't get sniped since lightsabers have no hand protection.

why dont they just make a gun that shoots lightsabers?

they did, but I bet you all would complain that "disney star wars has no good ideas" because of it

It has nothing to do with the existence of impossible technology or supernatural shit. The genre's premise itself implies that, but the world where it exists needs to be properly done to accommodate its existence.
The setting has people who master special powers which turn them into future predicting mind controlling supersoldiers, but somehow, this entire thing is completely left alone by any powers present in the setting. If it was written realistically, every political or military entity would have been obsessed with running its own Force user units which do things on its behalf. Force is inevitably tied with religion-like mindset and conditioning? Even better, since it adds relationship between real politics and religion into the mix. Additional layer of jedi-based and sith-based factions, both of which ultimately attempt to pursue practical goals. Etc.
Science fiction is not a genre about cool future technology, it's a genre about humans put into hypothetical impossible environments.

that shit is so gay bro

by leaving the thread in a certain illegal way

In The Last Jedi it looked pretty instant when Rey (or Kylo, I don't remember) kills a guard by just turning on the lightsaber.
But yeah they're not canon.

You could just get an actual gun that shoots bullets that they can't dodge or block, those exist in the star wars galaxy, people only use blasters because blaster gas is universal and you just have to fill your blaster's tank up as opposed to ordering the specific kind of bullets for your specific kind of gun from the one planet that makes it halfway across the galaxy.

The real reason is because the whole thing is theatre and cheating defys the point. Theoretically a Jedi could just force crush your brain or you could shoot them to death with a lazer shotgun but that's boring. Saying you could turn off your light saber to avoid a block is meta gaming a movie intended for 14 year olds which is lame

why dont they just make a gun that shoots lightsabers?

they did

Damn, if only they did that in Star Wars.
Like a High Republic
Or an Old Republic
Or an ancient plot to get the to go to war
If only...

It is done on completely infantile level that doesn't really express social and political life of realistic people properly.

Why does the gun have a vagoo?

The idea that force users could literally see in the future is kind of stupid and opens up too many questions. I always assumed it was vague awareness or feeling that could maybe be focused in on with meditation and they'd extrapolate from there.

In The Last Jedi it looked pretty instant when Rey (or Kylo, I don't remember) kills a guard by just turning on the lightsaber.

But yeah they're not canon.

Honestly anything lucas didn't have a hand in isn't canon, the sequels can't even fake being in line with previous material. You can own something but you can't force your will upon it.

Sheev used force to cloud the future so nobody could forsee that shit

Considering jedis have superhuman reflexes and you don't have to follow through since a lightsaber weighs fuck all, you simply block it like any other strike

nooo why didn't the movie spend 6 hours exploring the various political players and their motivations aaaaaaaaaaaa it's infantile!!!

they tried to do the "hand protection" thing with that whiny faggot from the new trilogy and his "claymore"

the "crossguard" has the lightsaber bits sticking out so far that if you tried to save your hand, the opponent's saber would go right through the metal and hit your hand anyway

they still tried to make it an iconic weapon, but people were too busy making Swiss Army Lightsaber memes instead

Orange = Purple > yellow > green > rest

why wouldnt it?

Why aren't there blasters that spread out multiple shots at once like a shotgun? If some Star Wars media has these then I've never seen it. Fuck lil jedi gon do?

Do you have to fill up the cum-canister before you can shoot?

orange isn't real

From my understanding

The Force can give you vague warnings about immediate threats and things that are going to happen in the near future

You can meditate to reach further into the future

You can have visions

it's just spidey sense

Why is it stupid?

Almost like it's a space fantasy instead of a science fiction. The focus isn't on "realism" at all.

much like real life, you can only shoot it 5 times before it runs out of cum
so yes. it needs refils

this entire thing is completely left alone by any powers present in the setting

The main faction is ruled by them and the other is saved by them.
People who say this just want it to be mass effect, great, that exists. That's how they use biotics, you've got your setting already.

Force slaves

Pathetic

doesn't really express social and political life of realistic people properly

That doesn't sound fun, or profitable.

Shit aimed at teenagers is stupid

Shocking!

The force created anakin to purge the corrupt Jedi and, over a long time, the Sith too. Because the force doesn't care about good and evil it just wants it's own will upheld, which only the devoted religious nerds would do, not power seeking Jedi politicians or power seeking sith.

That's because he was too prideful.

There's a line between being prideful and outright retarded. Sheev keeping Vader around at all already crosses it. For fuck's sake the man literally betrayed ALL his allies and killed many of them personally, why would you not just keep someone like that in service but employ him as your right hand? People like this are useful at the moment of takeover, but then instantly get disposed of.

Because it raises up the question of why they can't just look into the future all the time.

but palpy/whoever/Darth Evilus clouds their vision

Copout answer that makes it moot and functionality means they don't have future vision powers.

kills all Jedi

And before you use your force magic shit, I just shoot again and again.

I'd guess it just has to do with how certain the future is. For instance with Luke it could be a cloudy future because he could have decided to go with his father, or decided to fight his father. All the timeline contradiction clouds it. But for something more guaranteed to happen it'd be a clear future. The presence of a manipulative sith would certainly cloud things because it'd introduce possibilities of people being seduced to the dark side

How do you counter this?

You counter it by stopping consuming Star wars products

I don't consider anything but the first 3 movies to be canon. The most advanced lightsaber duel we see is between Obi-Wan and Vader, where it's clear that turning off your saber would mean an instant counter-stroke and certain death because they always keep the swords close to one another.

Just shoot them.

Lasers bounce off

Just shoot them with bullets.

It takes time and effort to look far enough into the future for it to be useful at all.

youtu.be /OcXaicGvcvA?si=1KWRukO8EsfeOecC&t=47 Just watch Dooku

lucas came up with that

You wouldn't do that move because an opposing Jedi or Sith would already see it coming with their precognition abilities and without your lightsaber you're as good as cooked.

You could do it against non-force sensitives but, you could just walk up and kill them easily too.

I don't think the crossguard is supposed to have separate emitters, it's like a split crystal inside or something that shoots beams out the sides.
I think the concept of a lightsaber like that is really cool but Kylo and the movie itself made it lame as hell.

There's literally no reason for jedi to not wear proper combat armor which would protects from shrapnel and other weapons that saturate the volume of space. Apparently they don't only because of needing to have the monk aesthetic.

This is also didn't help the Jedi built their temple over a sith power spot to contain it

Why do you think seeing into the future is easy?
It is ever changing. From just looking at it you've changed it.

Holy quantum giga cope lel

Didn't the initial concepts have Jedi as actual knights in armor?
The only reason Jedi wear robes is because of recognizability with Obi-Wan and Yoda which is beyond retarded.

Ok I'm having to hide out on this remote backwater desert planet but I'm going to constantly wear the traditional garments of my outlawed order of warriors

That's basically how gundams lightsabers work, the guns and swords are the same thing, but one has a containment field to catch the beam as it's being fired. If you turn that field off the sword can be a gun.

who'd have thought the prequels were fucking stupid?
Just the other day I saw a youtube video, and it showed Christopher Lee talking shit to Yoda, and it was just a flat greenscreen closeup of his head from the shoulders up, with a terrible CGI cave background and his white hair tinged just a little bit green, just enough to be noticeable, and it looked like one of those fucking shitty games from the late 90s with terrible digitized cutscenes and I was thinking I don't remember Lucasarts making a game like that for the prequels, and that's when I realized it was just a clip of attack of the clones. That's what the actual film looked like.

dual wield against a two handing cuck

left saber holds the jedi one in place

right saber slides further to the right and slices the jedi handle and hand in half

why wouldnt this work?

I would but your link seems broken.

Never had an issue with Jedi robes. They're supposed to be akin to ascetic monks, so the only clothes they usually wear are basic robes you'd find on a peasant.

It would, that's how dual wielding worked in real life.
Only issue is getting in to strike because he's not gonna want to sit there and eat shit.

based hk-47

He put a space in there for some reason.

Christopher Lee fenced saber and it really shows, the core differences between olympic saber and military saber mentioned being the rules system, being entirely linear and the swords weighing between 2/3rds and half the weight of the real thing, but otherwise it makes reasonable sense to use it for a lightsaber, hand protection issues notwithstanding.

Two handing guy has more heft behind his so he could break the lock when he sees/senses you trying

I love the "humble hermit" look but it doesn't make much sense to wear in combat. I could see it in Episode 1 but by Episode 2 it looks ridiculous when everybody's wearing hobo robes walking around the city and worse yet, when they mobilize and go to war.
Even Shaolin monks would put on full suits of armor when they fought.

They're also supposed to be fucking killers who can win vs a squad of trained soldiers without breaking a sweat. Which adds serious question about why aren't they countered by grenades or flamers, a question which wouldn't exist if they would wear the same proper armor as soldiers generally wear in SW.

because unlike swords that slide against each other, lightsabers grip each other

I love CIS!

Swords bind against each other, actually, historical longsword and rapier systems are based around that fact quite heavily.

probably one of the more stupid posts ive seen in a while, anyone briefly whacking a lightsaber around is not "handling a lightsaber" long term and actually doing anything that requires any kind of fine control over it, and even from your examples the chars like han solo are fully portrayed as having a hard time using it/ it being clunky like some powertool to them

grievous is a cyborg using his computer enhanced brains to emulate lightsaber forms and control them with machine assisted precision/ superstrength and even then he crumbles against people who arent scared shitless of playing against the chessbot in a deathmatch

ventress and grievous repeatedly use the dual strike and I think anakin did too when he had two sabers
green sword is how jedi usually block while the sith keeps pushing with both hands hoping to cut the shoulder with the jedi's own tip of the saber
doesnt matter cause you are applying physical force towards the tip and the torque gets amplified cause the distance between jedi grip and point of impact on jedi saber is greater than the sith who in such a situation almost always strike with the middle part of the blade

I can understand the complaint in Episode 3 (which is probably why both versions of the Clone Wars have actual Jedi armor), but the Jedi spend most of Episodes 1 and 2 in peace time while trying to negotiate between factions. What armor would they wear when 99% of their defense can be solved by just using the Force?

Right. Didn't notice that, thanks anon.
That is a pretty cool fight despite having it's fare share of fancy pirouettes and back turning.

Turn off your light saber fags think of it like modern dancing where only the guy who gets the first hit in scores and there's no worry about taking a hit in return.

its post-order 66

dooku, windu, 99% of the jedi are all dead

who are the best lightsaber wielders left?
obi-wan and vader obviously, but palpatine and yoda are both too old and crippled now

Pugh is gorg and I’m tired of pretending otherwise

According to modern interpretations there's an infinite number of jedi that survived.

Can it though? It does a lot but I imagine it'd be a lot better to just wear armor to protect you against shrapnel, other random projectiles, getting shot by blasters, physical impact and the elements.
Also when you're hanging around on Coruscant you kind of stick out like a sore thumb, just wear something casual on the street.

I always figured that Ben looked like a hobo because he didn't want to look like a Jedi knight.

They're also a monastic order, so they wear their robe shit everywhere, and it doesn't look good if your peace negotiators turn up dressed for intense combat.

sith always strike with the middle part of the blade

You don't want to risk the last words you hear being "um ackshually I'm a grey jedi"

Say what you like about kendo but that at least includes moves that get you out of the way of a retaliatory action and stuff like zanshin. Same with HEMA, like it or not, afterblows and doubles are to be avoided at all costs.

Staff > normal > ooo i'm so special duals

The problem is that they wear those robes into battle so they still look like they just turned up dressed for intense combat.
Like I said, it was fine in Episode 1 but it looked silly after that.

btfo's an entire franchise

uhh star keks?

Yoda wore the same robes.

That clip of Olympic fencing is Saber, check out what Epee looks like.

Star Wars went to shit after the first movie when the force turned from vague religious stuff to space magic

when you are aiming for the top half of the enemy saber you are trying to hit it with the center of your own
the fuck is he gonna do when you are trying to slash him vertically with 2 sabers? he will try to block them both at once which leads to the pic

but they see the future bro they can predict your moves bro trust me

is this some EU shit? it wasnt mentioned or even hinted as being an actual combat ability in the movies or even TCW

Can't they just use the force to change the size of the blade

Uhhh, episode 4, Luke training with a blindfold and blocking laser beams?

SW writing is shit

We know

It was always space magic, you retard. The first thing we see with the force is Vader choking the shit out of someone with it.

RLMcucks... It's over...

Why was Anakin such a retard?

The prequels are still garbage.

oh yeah
it feels like lucas forgot about that cause it didn't do anyone any good after that

didnt help luke keep his hand

didnt help palp when he got yeeted

didnt help vader when he got shocked

didnt help qui gon when he got stabbed

didnt help maul when he got split

didnt help anakin when he lost his hand

the list goes on. almost as if it's a worthless skill against another force user

Groomed as a boy by a much older queen, groomed by a magic space warrior cult at the same time, then groomed by an old man with evil magic powers.
Dude had a bad time.

can he beat a jedi?
either in dune knife fight or with a light saber?

Why didn't they just say

these people can't retract their lightsabers in a fierceful battle since it takes full concentration to do it

Idk i never watched star wars

Why didnt GG use 3 lightsabers and a blaster? Nobody with 2 hands would be able to beat him

OH NO-

why didn't he have a built in blaster on his chest or face so he can shoot them while using his sabers

It being worthless against another force user would make the turn off your saber move worthless too since you won't know when it's safe to do so.

just use it when you have the chance? it's always safe
opponent is already occupied with both of your sabers so at worst he is going to jump back
you are applying pressure to both ends of his weapon so it's not like he can do anything else