Why did deadlock fail?

No one was waiting on deadlock, it was extremely easy to get in. It was public knowledge with open doors.
It's just ugly mediocre shit of a game that no one would even bother with if it wasn't by valve

Ugly characters. I don't understand why this is so hard to fucking understand. People want attractive characters. That's it. You do that and people will come. If your game also happens to be fun, then people will stick around.

I feel like I'm speaking a different fucking language to everyone else.

The game isn't fun enough to have such an insufferable fanbase.

I already play dota a lot. If I didnt play dota a lot i would play deadlock more.

None of those games are actually 'dead', they're just not FOTM. That's the problem. This isn't like the 90's or 00's where a game's lifespan is measured in months or years, games keep being played long after they're no longer of any financial benefit because nobody turns off the lights and if they did then it'd do more damage than just leaving the servers up.
People who grew up playing video games have big libraries full of games that are very much playable whenever they want to play them, and this means every new game has to compete with every other game on a person's library. Sometimes the new game wins, sometimes the old game wins. If Valve actually wants any new MOBA or shooter to be successful, they need to convince people who spend every evening on DOTA or TF2 to make the switch.

Because it was made by known scammers who commit false advertising and fraud.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

so this is where moenbryda went when she died

mobas need lolis

Because all of the ugly DEI designs of cour- AAAAAAAA WAIT NO MAKE HER UGLY AGAIN!!!

because dei characters and the ugliest blandest setting

Game gets leaked by a shitty TF2 youtuber

Massive public demand due to it being a new Valve game

So much so that Valve is forced to launch closed alpha

Game is obviously in a very rough and unpresentable state

People bitch and complain

Valve makes updates that change gameplay in significant ways

People bitch and complain

Valve forced to make changes to appeal to the retards who expected a live service game out of a rushed alpha

People bitch and complain

Valve announces that they are going to slow down on updates to actually work on the fucking game

People bitch and complain

It's leaked that there is a secretive, more exclusive version of the closed alpha because the mass majority have dogshit ideas and provide no actually meaningful input

People bitch and complain

Next to zero sex appeal. Nobody wants to see Tumblr potatoes anymore.

Ugly DEI game
No controller support
2 big name studios to compete against and several smaller ones too.

What was the sex appeal in TF2? CS?
I'm unfortunately aware of who you guys get off to in Dota...

I had blast, when first wave of invites dropped. Month or two forward and it started to feel way too competetive for my taste. Bikini vindicta was amazing skin, who ever did this

What was the sex appeal in TF2? CS?

TF2

Pretty much the entire cast can appeal to a woman (or homo) in some fashion.

CS

The appeal here is quite narrow I will admit but it exists. 'Man in uniform' is all I have to say.

not sex appeal but both TF2 and CS appeal to male power fantasies of being some tough nameless badass soldier

The game failed because it's DEIslop. If the characters looked good and weren't a bunch of niggers and gays the game would be successful.
The second issue is that it's a clusterfuck with too many stupid mechanics some idiot just crammed in. You can just have a normal shooter without stupid loot and lanes and trying to be Dota.

Invite only alpha

Full of Russians

Killing casual to focus on rank in a closed alpha test

Disgusting mesh of art styles as the devs desperately to convert one ugly ass game into another

MOBA

Turd person MOBA

DEI

Last hitting

Last hitting last hits

Huge ugly and confusing map

It's ugly
It's confusing
and it's shit!

DEI stuff and the fact that it's MOBA. It's not too late to add a hero shooter gamemode.

They made the cutest girl cuter

Play the game

It's boring as fuck

Watch the game

It's just a giant cluster fuck of shit and effects on the screen

no ty

It's not even out yet

Compieslop

Hot take: she should look like her old model at the start of the match and like that when all her abilities are maxed out

a character from valorant

They 100% need custom games on launch to keep the playerbase from metaslaving.

BBBB (Big Busty Blue Bitch)

I swear only Anon Babble that said deadlock is failed. how is a game failed if its not even officially released yet, everyone else know this because its the logic.

Google the name of the newest video game from Valve

Just get pictures of a single female from Valorant

They should have not picked such a retarded name lmao

because its the logic

Nice try.

it was way too hard

needlessly convoluted item system and somehow even more snowball happy than League or Dota are.
Also really bad about where your getting hit from.

In the end, it was the FOMOslop that Anon Babble accused other still alive games of being.

I'm still shocked that no one seems to care that this is Valve. I get it, they've been dead ever since Portal 2 (arguably before that even). But still, the blatant trend-hopping and lack of anything compelling AT ALL is just so disappointing.

I wouldn't give a single fuck about this game if it were made by anyone else, but it's Valve. I still don't give a fuck, but it's just sad. First Artifact, then the Dota Autochess, now a bland hero shooter. Not a single win, or success or ANYTHING noteworthy for the last decade.

Its actually kind of amazing, and unsurprising how much DOTA fucked up Valve's ability to make games.

They did have HL Alyx as a W but thats on fucking VR.

People tolerate it in a MOBA because that's more of a pure numbers game, but getting snowballed is much more annoying in a shooter where you're a lot more connected to the action. When you shoot an enemy and literally see your bullets start to hurt them less and less, it becomes viscerally frustrating to the point that a later win does not entirely cancel out that frustration. It's why real shooters tend to keep their teams on rough mechanical parity the entire time and reward the winning team with "soft" bonuses like advantageous terrain.

too much superfluous bullshit like farming surrounding the core mechanics like shooting

SOMEONE LEAK THE SEKRIR CLUB BUILD ALREADY

They're not sending their best pajeets...

ITS NOT OFFICIALLY OUT

ITS A BETA

THEYLL PATCH IT

I DONT WANT TO BE.... ALONE

This game is proof you should never listen to the player base of your game. People are too fucking stupid to even know what they want.

YOU DONT UNDERSTAND I NEED TO PLAY AN UNFINISHED BUGGY MESS ITS NOT FAIR ONLY STREAMERS AND VALVE EMPLOYEES ARE TESTING IT

I love how the public appha was just smoke and mirrors for months.

It's just unfinished and people moved on.

NO. ONE. WANTS. TO. LAST. HIT. IN. A. SHOOTER!
That is why it failed.

Because Valve planned it to fail.
They never wanted it to go public this quick.

DOTA fucked up Valve's ability to make games.

Dota set the money bar too high. For a project to get any sort of traction in Valve, it needs to promise obscene amounts of money to attract developers to work on it in hopes of getting a cut of it through the bonuses. Dota 2 made so much fucking money setting the bar so high that the only thing that could get any traction was fucking Artifact because the developers were promised insane returns on the triple-dipping monetization model.

until i can play it on release, games do not exist to me

It is already released. If a game is available to the public to play, it is released. Your arbitrary standards mean nothing.

How do I get invited to the pre pre alpha bros...

It is invite-only and I have not received an invite.

(You)r lack of standards mean nothing to me, if it's not released, i will ignore it.

Weirdos kept spamming pictures of Ivy and it chased normal players off, killed the game

Everyone I know who stopped playing it only stopped cause nothing was happening, so they ended up playing other stuff like marvel slopvals which constantly adds new stuff or went back to their old daily games. Sounds like it was boring as fuck and failed to take full advantage of how bored people were at the time with their forever games.

Dota is literally the gayest game in the world

From my friendgroup they didn't like how long the matches take

the modern gamer doesnt care about gameplay and needs a battepass to keep playing something

grim

remember when a multiplayer pvp game would release with like 3-6 different modes or maybe even custom modes/servers for people to enjoy and somehow found a way to keep people engaged just by the promise having some fun?

How does that make the Jews money?

How does that relate to Deadlock?

Don't worry, compendium and lootboxes will save deadlock from being forgotten, surely all those turd world bots will keep this game afloat!

how does that relate to a game that only has one boring as fuck game mode with one singular map and absolutely zero room for player creativity

retarded faggot, I swear modern gamers deserve the games they get. mobas have broken you pathetic bucks into accepting less content over the years

Unbalanced shit.
Some hero can press Ulti to win.
Some hero's ulti is situational.
Some hero's ulti is dog shit garbage.

Well yeah, there's more competition in video games now. Why would you play game where number doesn't go up when you can play game where number visibly goes up and gives me things.

You're a retard if you don't understand this. Remember people just trying to unlock random fucking armors in Halo? Imagine if that had a battle pass in it's peak. It's be like fucking crack but also it was competing with literally nothing until cowaduty 4 and prestige grinding.

They were thinking you wouldn't notice

so true bro lets play some rivals since they added a battle pass to that game

zoomers are absolutely tasteless slave niggers good lord

male power fantasies of being some tough nameless badass soldier

CoD did that too and now it's a clown fiesta with dragons, clowns, f*males (in clown outfits) and whatnot. And apparently it sells better

I have no conclusion to this

Yeah no shit retard the game literally isn't finished yet. None of the assets or code is finalized so they can't even give the player base a solid base to make custom games with.

They've experimented with other modes and layouts.

Why would I play something just for the battle pass you retard? I'm saying people want goals like grinding stuff dip shit. You clearly missed the point and just look at your favorite buzzword and point like a drooling retard. Some shit sticks because it's easy for people to make their own goals but if your goal is to "just play the game and have fun" it's not gonna last long unless you have autism.

too complicated

too clusterfucky

matches can be too long

Do you really want to do speed homework everytime you play an online shooter?

your generation is broken, you have a defective brain

the game literally isn't finished yet

Holy shit, retarded nigger is finally catching on? It's taken valve this long to "finish" a game that only has one map and one game mode? And you're mindblown that no one gives a single shit about it? Modern "gamers" deserve the shit products they get kek, they shill for these companies for free. You're a loser.

SHOOTING GAME

level up

you have stop to level up abilities

you have to buy shit

you have to sell shit

you have to farm and jungle shit

you have to last hit

At least games like Assfaggots let you relax. They overengineered a game because number manipulation GOOD and FUN

I don't think the small Deadlock team even wants that many people to give a fuck about it now. It's why they immediately created a secret alpha build so they can ignore the public playtesters.

It's bad and no one cares about it because valve is actually playing 4D chess right now.

Unable to grasp a simple concept that people even played Quake arena for

Do you think people just played that "Just for fun"
No they played it because the action of playing with people over the internet was new and engaging at the time and they wanted to be better than their opponents. But you're too rose tinted to be able to see anything other than muh battle pass and drop ad hominems because you have no argument lmao.

Not a single win

Fuck you blackpilling nigger
They made HL Alyx which is undoubtedly the best VR game TO THIS VERY DAY

only sexy mod available

It's over...

i.e. for me

It stopped getting updates which is important for a hero based game

The game is physically, mentally and visually exhausting
The average person's brain cannot juggle 30 straight minutes of twitch shooter gameplay while processing last hitting, gold counts, map awareness, cooldowns, and all the other bullshit that comes with moba gameplay

Counterstrike works because you can turn your brain off and shoot some heads by flicking your wrist
Dota works because even though there's a lot of information to process it's still a slow-paced game

The only genre that comes close to being as demanding as Deadlock is RTS and it's unpopular for the same reasons

Make the best fidget spinner

WOoooooooOOooo I HECKING LOVE AGING GIMMICKS
I think the thing that still holds them up is that they somehow created the best physics engines to exist in any games.

zoomers are absolutely tasteless slave niggers good lord

Millennials paved the way for this behavior long before zoomers had jobs and the money to buy battle passes and skins, when they were p2wing/RMTing in MMOs and buying/selling earbuds in TF2. Millennials were the first one to place monetary value on in-game items and when devs decided to monetize that untapped goldmine, millennials ate it up.

probably the most mentally straining game i have played lol especially in the higher mmr brackets

Dota works because even though there's a lot of information to process it's still a slow-paced game

In Dota I can pick dusa or drow or PA and tend to my rice paddies for twenty minutes, just zoning out and muscle memory my CS and jungle timings. Even mid mindgames can be zen since it's a clean 1v1, you occupy your brain with only a rune rotation or a cheeky sunstrike, it's the supports that have to strategize and get mentally drained
Deadlock is way too fucking emotionally, physically and mentally demanding from you, I feel I need amphetamines just to play it adequately. But it would make for a great esport for this reason

Yall are still seething over this game?

Chill out uncs lmao
HL3 is coming out before this

its a fucking boring game

I requested a key, and didn't get in. It wasn't open door.

Hopoo is prototyping Risk of Rain 3 in Deadlock

Make it happen

Most people play mobas for the cute girls

Mentally ill poster.

As it's made by Icefrog, there's an autistic obsession to have seventy-three thousand layers of gameplay depth.
Which is fine for the initial months of the game where everyone is learning together, but starts to fall apart once a meta forms and experienced players roflstomp anyone who hasn't gone through the 10-hour youtube tutorial college degree to have any idea what's going on.
I had a lot of fun with it for a couple of weeks but that's when the MOBAisms started creeping in and every match was people screaming at each other for not making the optimal play in every scenario. Good reminder of why I migrated to singleplayer or coop games

It hasn't even released, just give it 2 more weeks

Oversaturated market. It competes with Overwatch, DOTA, and TF2 simultaneously; as well as any other multiplayer shooter out there.

Is "oversaturated" the new buzzword? I also see it overused in regards to Marathon, the extraction shooter.
Those aren't saturated genres whatsoever. There's only a few good games of each. Most are old.
Stop parroting slogans.

Im just waiting for it to come out desu

Just cuz you rock the broccoli cut doesn't mean that moba isn't a boomer slave genre, nice try tho

This too.
Last hitting is the most mindnumbing shit ever.

Mobas are for fags

Oversaturated typically means why would someone play X over Y or Z. Why would you play Marathon over Escape from Tarkov? There's not enough market to fit this shit in because it's niche unless you're doing something special like Dark and Darker.

Hope this helps!

holy shit every week i do a Anon Babble check-in and you always have a thread. why are you so obsessed? kek

Why would you play Marathon over Escape from Tarkov?

Because you've already played Tarkov and are bored of it?
Because you prefer the futuristic theme?
Because you want a faster moving game?

Hope this helps!

idiots still salty they suck at the game and newfags trying too hard to fit in with posts like this

have you played this game

HL Alyx was set the bar for VR games but poorfags refuse to acknowledge it

repeat things

it’s a meme

Well is there a market for run and gun future Tarkov that isn't filled by the other 114 extraction shooters already on steam?

Hope this helps!

It was, in fact, helpful. Thank you.

there exist 100 bad RTS games on Steam, therefore RTS is an oversaturated genre

i am very intelligent :)

also i think the game is fun, and its core values appeal to me, but i don't have remotely enough time for it.
i imagine that's what everyone else realized, at least in my age bracket-- the skill ceiling is so high that even the best players haven't plateaued or noticeably slowed down in their growth. the only growth deterrent are patches that drastically change mechanics or power balance. otherwise it'll escalate to the point where gameplay looks like GunZ.
there's just no way to keep up unless you dedicate your life. but it's always stayed in the back of my mind because it's the closest to my ideal pvp game.
makes sense, kek. at least i acknowledge i'm relatively bad, but i don't think the game is, and i'm not salty about it.

Age of Empires, Total War Franchise, Command and Conquer are all bad!

Maybe you just don't like RTS games?

Hope this helps!

he is arguing RTS is an oversaturated genre to avoid the ego pain of admitting he was wrong

I accept your concession. Please be more dignified in defeat next time.

We could've gotten TF2 global offensive instead of this.

There's 100 bad games I would never play

But it's not oversaturated!

Maybe take a mental evaluation?

Hope this helps!

I miss playing the game but I don't want to burn myself out playing the alpha. Hopefully Volvo comes what a pretty much final build late this year or early next one.

let's make the Hispanic character fatter

lol lmao

Because they nerfed Kevin, buncha faggots. Are any of the new heroes fun? I haven't played in almost a year now. Or did I get baited and shit like Doorman or Bookworm aren't actually playable yet and only accessible via console command in training.

They're only available to the special snowflake client that most regular deadlock players can't access.

The actual CSGO influenced updates were dogshit though. Nobody wanted weapon skin slop or Casual. Operations/Campaigns were OK but didn't really add anything to the game

Basically Valve hated that russians and compniggers flooded the invite alpha so they made a new secret club.

I cannot stress this enough, tf2niggers deserve nothing

Another day, another Mo&Krill win.

I had fun and played decently well, but my friends sucked ass and dropped it. Not willing to play by myself so I left, too. Maybe we'll get back once they make a 1.0 release *dotards sniggering in the corner*

dynamo, ivy, McGinnis look worse

man...

Millennials allowed lootboxes to proliferate; welcomed them, even. No wonder the industry went to even worse shit when your gen started getting dev jobs

That’s a weird creampie.

Because it was a tpsassfaggots with characters designed by sweet baby inc (literally).

Niche genre is filled by a few popular games

100s of slop games created

Yet the amount of players that enjoy this genre is small

Supply>>>>Demand

Somehow this means it's not oversaturated

It's almost like they need to create something to standout because it's by the definition over saturated

made a new secret club

How the fuck do you access it

The game is built with ASSFAGGOTs in mind and I'm too fucking old and busy to keep up with the inevitable mountain of bullshit that I have to practice in order to stay competitive in this genre.
The items, neutral creeps, ults, that thing that spawns every once in a while that you have to deliver, the not-roshan in the middle of the map, the escape routes and potential flanking angles on a god damn 3D map, builds for the character I'm playing plus every other fuckhead in the game, and whatever shit I'm not thinking of. I might have tried learning it a decade ago but I have too much shit on my plate now days.

Reach eternus 6

Someone on Anon Babble said 1000+ games played.

Funniest thing is that they could easily repurpose Deadlock to a kino PvE game if the ASSFAGGOTS doesn't pan out.

I have over 1k games and don't have access so that's wrong.

Not true. Valve is only hand picking internal playtesters and some non-compnigger high level players.

Risk of Rain 3 moment

I am going to find the fucker responsible for permabuffing this broken dishonest character and kick him in the balls.

I hope we get an aviation-based gremlin hero.

dota but third person shooter

dishonest

when the game has shit like Bebop, Pocket, Geist, Kelvin...