Modern games lack any sense of wonder and mystery anymore

It's going to be Northern Europe setting with full of Africans.

How do you transport food from farms into that castle?

Again with this thread?
There are games with grand scale and feel of wonder but since they are modern you'll call them slop because you are a contrarian goblin

Forget about "sense of wonder and mystery anymore", why don't games have any sense of grand scale, even when now is even more technologically possible?
You always now have these super small environments with zero exploration or travel.

shadow of the colossus & ico

"wonder" and "adventure" are absolutely worthless as metrics, since they vary so wildly from person to person.

name one

gondolin was nitler's vision

Elden ring
Rdr2
Kcd 1-2
The witcher 3
Dragon's dogma 1-2

Off the top of my head, plenty of games that have scale.
Cyberpunk, BG3, RDR2, Elden Ring, etc.

All of these games have tons of travel and exploration. Just accept you're retarded/jaded and/or spoil everything for yourself.

That's fine, as long as it's got castles and wood huts and forests and everything

Notice how similar to Zelda these titles are.
Further proving the point that The Legend of Zelda is THE best game of all time.

play genshin impact

Wrong. It's becuase you can't play a game anymore without speedrunning it, and obsessively going online every 5 minutes to see what everyone else is saying about it.

There's a road, use it, alternatively, transport magic to teleport stuff to there. Seems like a high fantasy world so anything goes.

asking for sense of wonder and mystery from tetris or pinball is just laughable

STFU

It's just Plato's republic visualized.

because everyone runs triple monitor and ever game is datamined before release with everything put up on a wiki.
you cant even have a conversation about a game with a friend without your phone's spyware listening in and automatically recommending you guides videos for the game when you open youtube.

When I play games made before 2010 it's there. Why is that?

Too immersion breaking to me to enjoy.
I really don't mind Africans as long as the game is set in (sub-Saharan) Africa but publishers are too afraid of low sales.
There is also untapped potential on Pre-Columbian America, I'd like to explore those temples and pyramids built on a city in the middle of a lake.

Open world doesn't automatically means the game has sense of grand scale, don't be retarded,

Eat a dick and dilate tranny

ever had someone ask you to play a game with them and then demanded you write an essay about a fictional world? Yeah, gay retards have completely filled the gaming space and not know what a game is

Cyberpunk

Checkmark map cleaner action

BG3

It's just three small maps and it's woke as fuck, killing all immersion

RDR2

Reddit

Elden Ring

Only good one on your list

witcher 3 is 10 years old

Numenor

Aw shit. Here we go again.

I couldn't care less about real-world ethnicities in a high fantasy game

I'm not being retarded, genshin has insane scale

if it isnt the most generic boring setting that has been done 5 billion times already im not interested

no one wants to go to india pajeet

Yes familiarity is good. Spice things up a little but keep what works at the core.

Cozines>adventure

If Elden Ring is the standard for adventurefags then I don't want it. Not only it doesn't simulate towns and such, the entire map is filled with hostile enemies with some vistas here and there.

What was the last game you played that had that sense?

None, my receptors are fried permanently

You dont really get games with the scope of a Terranigma, E.V.O., Chrono Trigger and FF6 anymore either.
SNES mogging new games hard.

being afraid of variety or new experiences and wanting to do the same thing over and over suggests a mind lacking adventure or a desire to learn. its why whenever someone says they have no interest in games from japan, china, etc just immediately tells me this is not a very intelligent person.

open world slop be like

yeah lets make the player walk over that empty shitty bridge for 30 minutes and then unlock fast travel to town so that you dont have to interact with that terrain ever again because we bloated it to hell

Again why Hyrule is the best game universe.

Oh no, how dare you not like the things I like!

see, its always childish insults like that instead of talking like an adult

ur just a weeb!

u dont like thing i like

No, but its usually the case that people who play and enjoy Japanese, Chinese, etc games also equally enjoy American or European games.

Its always the lesser intelligent people who never venture out to try new things. Its not that you dont like something I like, its just an objective observation that people like you dont have great minds.

Hyrule

The artstyle is bland like unseasoned food. Throw a desaturated shade of fog on everything and call it a day. Nintendo hired that man indeed

Elden Ring (and the rest of the Dark Souls series) feel less like wander and more like heavy metal concept albums. It's more about capturing bleakness in my opinion.

RDR2 is cringe history revision and doesn't really evoke wonder for me.

Haven't played KCD1-2, but they are too surrounded by modern politics for both sides. That's not the game's fault though. On the other hand, both games from what I've seen of them veer heavily to mudcore, which is very similar to Elden Ring's bleak heavy metal up there.

Haven't played Witcher 3, but that also was starting to get caught up in some modern politics.

Haven't played DD1-2, but I think from what I've seen of 1 it looks good.

Cyberpunk has 0 wander, it's just big and that's pointless to the discussion.

BG3 is modern politics AND modern D&D, both of which suck.

asks for games with big worlds and exploration

complains about random garbage

yawn
enjoy your misery, I'll continue enjoying games

Minecraft has more sense of wonder and mystery than virtually any old video game

That's a YOU problem.

guys why don't games have big scale and sense of wonder

ew not those games those have politics in them

gee I wonder what OP's real problem is

you should play DD

typing a lot of words makes you smart

For me it's Genshin Impact. I don't really read the lore so I'm always wondering about stuff.

Breath/Tears Hyrule is the perfect game world

lol

Yeah polfags ruined everything
I want fun in my games, not political pandering.

It is. You can actually smell the different climate areas if you have a very mild form of psuedosynesthesia

ER

has many grand moments that look and feel fantastical

RDR2

history revision is something i do not care for while wondering through some of the most beautiful landscapes a video game has to offer.
they look like paintings from edger payne.

KCD

KCD isn't mudcore. it is full of pretty lush landscapes and the feeling is heightened as you go from a nobody to knight in shining armor going to a bandit camp to save a damsel. you should check it, v likes to make mountains out of moles (just pirate it)

TW3

i am sure you can probably find progress stuff in it but it's a great adventure full of choices and interesting characters.

DD

it has really good gameplay.

and i am sure you look close enough at any video game you can find some modern or progressive politics in it even in LOTR

i only read the op and then skimmed the thread and saw this post and almost had a conniption. i can't fucking stand sharing this place with these kinds of people.
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not all politics is annoying preaching you fucking retard
looks you see any sort of message and go

oh noo that's modern politics

not all politics is annoying preaching

It literally all is if politics are a part of the game in any form.

Game mechanics =/= good game world

Nintendo can do much better but why they should bother when people would buy their game regardless.

Genshin put more effort into their world than Zelda so why the latter gets a pass while the former is considered taboo?

What's wrong with Hyrule's mechanics? It's as close to real-world as the Switch can reliably run.
Or are your one of those frameratefags who NEEDS everything in 1440p 8k?

It's objectively the most interesting open world game visually speaking, it's probably also the tallest and deepest too which is cool. Top tier music and decent gameplay as well.
I won't spoilt it but the location of that other image is really unexpected and cool.

Death Stranding since it has stuff to do with the terrain unlike most open worlds.

are you a child?
literally any grand adventure is going to have factions that are political in nature.
what do you want?
good knight fighting the kingdom of evil with nothing gray or interesting?

Genshin put more effort into their world than Zelda

Genshit copied Zelda

as someone who doesn't care for gachaslop can i just download it and walk/explore around? do i need to level shit up to access everything?

The mechanics could be applied to any map they aren't exclusive to Hyrule

God of War games used to have a great sense of scale, then the PS4 games made everything shitty and "grounded"

both are ass retard

don't want shoehorned political preaching/social engineering/consensus manufacturing/psyops in my games

ARE YOU A HECKIN CHILD BRO?

Anon Babbleeddit ruined you

for me, most recently those attributes

wonder and mystery

its: youtube.com/watch?v=BIuuLBhDt9s

And how exactly does this preclude Hyrule from being the perfect game world?

nigga you think anything being political is political pandering or whatever.
if you pick any story (even the ones made before CIA) about a grand adventure it will have some political themes in it

Because there is nothing interesting to find, or see. The easiest incentive for exploration is often loot, and when you learn about the loot location you can ignore a lot of areas because those items are not useful for your built. This happens as well in urban places, because the only useful places there are general stores, weapon smiths, and inns (Only if the game does not feature a passing time mechanic and you need to sleep to wake up in the morning), and you can ignore everything else. It would be nice to have actual merchants with diverse inventories that have items that are actually needed.

There also the fact that games by necessity reuse assets, and it makes everything looms the same, killing the motivation of exploration in the first place, because if you enter a new zone, you have actually seem pretty much everything there is to see.

lotr

Wonder and mystery.

Lmao.

The internet ruined video games but unironically

Video game websites writing guides before the game comes out via review copies and releasing them all the second the game launches

The secrets that are left get discovered within a day after launch

Any mechanics or interesting game behavior gets datamined within a week of the game coming out

Nerds try to minmax everything for efficiency instead of just playing the game for fun

Games can't be special anymore, every tiny detail of a game has to be completely unraveled and understood.
Nothing can just exist just because it does, there has to be some kind of answer or explanation that completely ruins the "magic" so to speak.

T-THEN DON'T LOOK UP ANYTHING ABOUT THE GAME AND LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS!

Completely ignoring the point.

that's true but it's been like that for 20 years at this point, since the 360. they really started optimizing it out in the sixth. any possibility of boredom or confusion in a mainstream title is unacceptable and that's a possibility you have to have if the big moments are going to pay off.

It isn't nostalgia. Old games used to be fairly static with massive power jumps for finding certain items or events. Today games are far more forgiving, and will not let you miss out on progressing. Its basically the entire gameplay system now, grinding access to A so you can use B so you can use C, ect.

Yes nigga, because it always is nowadays.
Zelda has a monarchy and that's just the setting of the story, there's no deep dive into the psychosociological implications of feudalism nigga it's just a game where you go kill dragon with sword and that's what we want, that's ALL we want.
Fuck politics I want FUN in my games, nigga. FUN. And cute girls.

trvthnvke

no, it's the same shill garbage. genshin is worse than korean mmos that were released in 2005 in terms of exploration

Because the design is far away from it. Everything has a hazy layer of fog, the weather is monotonic and mostly sunny, the landscapes are one shade of green applied to all regions

Expedition 33.

maybe read children's book.

nothing about world being realistic or having any depth

just the adventure

hyrule is also a bad game world cause there is actually 0 fucking worldbuilding its just reset every fucking game and there is no coherent lore

Atmospheric diffusion is a real thing in the real world.
Imagine complaining about sunny weather lol.

Noooo you MUST consoom the political propaganda!

Haha dragon go BOOM

It's all goonslop nonce sense these days la
Absolute State.

Yes and kinda, there are some locks for certain areas I think but I played since the beginning so I'm not sure how it works for new players.

What games from Korea are you talking about exactly?

you are a nigger retard if existence of any deeper themes if propaganda to you

come together to fight greater evil

fight for the weaker one

OHHHHH NOOOO NOT THIS POLITICAL PROPGANDA AGAIN!!!

Not to the same extent Nintendo went for with the game

Xenoblade X literally just came out you retarded faggots

You're the nigger retard for allowing yourself to be so propagandized you think that games aren't supposed to be fun.

Fun is subjective though

It is in most places in the world. When was the last time you went outside, in actual outside not a city?

And political preaching is objectively cringe no matter how subtle it tries to be.

Please, Nintendo went over the top with it to mask the bad LODs that comes from the limited hardware. There's no clever or realistic artistic play here otherwise they would've done so much more because even planet Earth has more variety.

nah politics is a lot of fun.
you can go play pokemon

nah politics is a lot of fun.

>>reddit

Half Life 2

trvthnvke fantasy sucks retards

Voices of the void

all that farmland

houses look like 2 feet tall comapred to the scale of buildings in the city

all this farmland but not a single windmill

upon closer inspection nothing's growing there at all, it's all just fucking grass aside from maybe a handful of fields

Garbage unimmersive image, garbage worldbuilding

>all this farmland but not a single windmill

It shielded from wind by the mountains so how can there be windmills?

idiot!

I'm so sick of fantasyslop

I wonder about the mystery of Spartan gf cheeks

what is an acreage

Goonffie

There's a game called outward that still gave me that feeling of mystery and adventure. That proves it's not the times, it's you. So long as you let yourself be absorbed and so long as you have that mindset, every game has the potential to be an immersive world. I've played countless rpgs and mmos and I'll never get tired of the fantasy genre.

dude outward fucking sucks, you have to be a mouthbreather to get a feeling of mystery from something so rough around the edges

Based. Done him

it's a cool game on paper but it's too low budget

That's why I don't mess with indie slop

I LOVE REALISTIC WORLDBUILDING OORAHH

this game is even worse kek

Nope it mogs
Probably the best game ever created

nostalgia

massive cringe

Coping zoomlet redditoid

Should've played Elden Ring on launch day. There was plenty of mystery.

zoomlet redditoid

putting aside this pathetic excuse of an insult, only zoomers with shit taste like that crap

Hmmmmmmmmm,

If only there was a game which had everything you need. A perfect game in a sense. Perfect in everything, the gameplay, exploration, setting, challenge, story, sound, narrative and visuals. Although the visuals can be ignored every once in a while, and they don't have to be too realistic, that is if the game is absolutely perfect in every other regard. So far in the history of gaming, not a single perfect game has ever deigned us with its presence.

only zoomers like FF7

Massive cope
Best game ever

The Last Guardian

Thats literally oblivion

this. day one taking the elevator to the underground.

Lots of people like FF7. Not nearly as many like this shitty sequel demake garbage.

fpbp, especially the 2nd point

Northern Journey gave me some of that. Still haven't played through the whole thing, but it's always enjoyable when I find something like this that feels a bit more old-school in the sense that the world is almost a complete blank and something you gradually discover as you play. Arx Fatalis would be a good example of this.

When I think on wanting to play games that have a sense of wonder and mystery to them, that's kind of the direction I'm aiming for where the game doesn't spell out all that much for you. Of course I can always find certain settings and the way in which a game is presented to not be very interesting, so this anon is right to a degree, but I do think there's some common thread as to why boomers like myself remember a game like Morrowind so fondly.

jackie chan

meds

Grand scale these days just translates into huge empty worlds with a ton of busywork quests. I'd rather play a linear game that is fleshed out than a grand scale open world game that is big just for the sake of it.

play obscure quest mods for skyrim (or any bethesda game for that matter, I guess.)
There's typically no or minimal official documentation. Their relative obscurity means there's no or minimal unofficial documentation either. And the feeling that you're going off into a video game world that very few real people have ever seen is exhilarating in its own way.

cuck hackshit

Death Stranding

Disagree. New games actively make this difficult for you. I tried playing Elden Ring without looking anything up and it was just frustrating as fuck. Don't any of you fuckers come in and say you played it entirely blind either, that's a fucking lie.

Not all modern games OP

check out everything about the game from the internet before playing

People underestimate how bad this is for one's enjoyment of a game. I wish I could only see discussions of games I already finished.

Everyone looked stuff up because I did!

I played it blind

I wonder where the little guy went

Elden Ring

arriving to Leyndell for the first time sure was an experience

he's still with us, natlan isn't over yet

Because sense of scale became equal to open grass field and fetch quests and we have never recovered as there's an entire industry with thousands of assembly line workers producing "assets" to feed that monstrosity.

Of all these only DD1 somewhat gets it. The rest are just... big and empty.

east asian history is boring

modern gaming is optimized for dopamine
read a book

refuses to even entertain the idea of not going online

rdr2 and tw3 at least have more in them than DD, they just have worse gameplay
the big thing is no chargens though

Kenshi

I think it's because most modern games wear their cookie-cutter mechanics on their sleeves too much.
In earlier times it was more common for a developer to think up a scenario and try to build a game and its mechanics around it. These days game design is more like piecing together certain rather mechanics:

So uhh, we want to make an extraction shooter, with crafting mechanics, uh, progressions system with perks

instead of:

We want to capture the experience of being a scavenger in a post-apocalyptic world

Arma Reforger

low IQ retard doesn't understand the concept of things happening even when he's not around to witness them

mentions a game from jatrans

That shit is barely a game.

Hyrule is painfully boring and generic, it's like a one-off fantasy world made for a TV ad

Warcraft 3

Having nicer graphics doesn't mean it has more effort. BOTW/TOTK's Hyrule will be remembered and talked about for years to come and will be used as reference for numerous games.
You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who even knows where Genshin takes place.

You can sometimes still get that feeling from indies. Like with pic related that I'm playing right now.

tendie comes in thinking he plays games

Elden shit

Good

LMAO

Oh the irony of a gachatard of all people saying this kek.

implying I play gachas

Imagine being as dumb as you. Well, you don't have to, which is a good thing since you're too dumb to do it.

Elden Ring, probably the only thing it did better than the other Souls games.

tendies aren't known for their critical thinking skills, which is why he immediately assumed you were defending gacha-gambling slop.

Xenoblade X literally came out over a decade ago dumbass