Realistically, what could be done to prevent mass effect 4 from being a massive train wreck?

realistically, what could be done to prevent mass effect 4 from being a massive train wreck?

Giving the IP to another company. That's it.

Fire everybody at Bethesda, put the entire studio to the torch, and then salt the blasted ground it sat upon.
Can't be a massive train wreck if it never comes out to begin with.

Bethesda

An execution video of bioware's entire writing staff

they must keep the enjoyable conventions of the MASS EFFECT series while also introducing new elements that feel exciting and fresh

Ideally they should aim for sort of a Cyberpunk 2077

Yeah, them as well

actually hold it back if it tests poorly instead of shitting it out once all the race consultants approve it

Have it be about a group of deserter asari stormtroopers who have turned to a life of crime and focus on them expanding their shadowy empire, criminal influence and female sex slaves that they kidnap from various races and organizations.
Call them the rapers instead of the reapers.

bring back sexy aliens, robots and suits as a starter

Why would you want that? I want to see Bioware crash and burn.

Nothing. Andromeda is apparently canon.

New cast besides for an older Liara who’s a matriarch at this point, make Cerberus evolve/develop into a really extreme threat over the decades from when ME3 ended

target of opportunity

make the story a satire of the Trump administration

Bioware, hire this man

I boycotted Mass Effect 3 back in the day because of its always online, day 1 dlc requirements.

I've decided to replay Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 (original versions, not 2021 release) and I've already completed them. I last played them in 2010 apparently. I saw Mass Effect 3 with all of its DLC's on sale for ~5 euros and picked it up after all these years (and I want to finish the series fully). I'm still playing it at the moment.

In the 3rd game, I immediately spotted the rot as I suspected back then too. Suddenly girlbosses come out and various men are actually powerless or incompetent (Krogan Woman, Salarian Dalatrass etc.), also more in-your-face gay and lesbian stuff at various points. Kind of weird that you have the sexy and attractive characters (too much in case of Ashley even) mixed with this rot in the writing. I guess game designers were not completely infiltrated with the idpol and anti-normative beauty ideology back then. This is back in 2012 too. While it went back on these kinds of areas, it went forward on many of them so I think it's well worth 5 euros.

I remember reading how much of a shit game Andromeda is and current Bioware have gone even deeper depths of identity politics insanity (see Veilguard). To answer your question: No, it can't be saved. Forget it exists when it comes out and stick with the original trilogy as the definitive version.

The dalatrass is portrayed like a fucking evil cunt who's in the wrong, she's a terrible example of a "girl boss"

Fuck mass effect 3, that awful tacked on dlc for 2 came out of left field where shep kills the batarians so they can fit in their shitty narrative in 3, killed all desire to play

You're missing the point. It's not important whether she is in the right or not (and that point is debatable too). The point is the male salarian councillor we've been seeing up to this point is actually powerless and Dalatrass is the real power.

The whole game is full of these kind of details that surface on the 3rd game. No Krogan females before and we know they are important, but apparently now the Krogan female Eve (forgot her real name) with Wrex co-rules and is actually extremely important figure.

Stop raping the dead horse and cancel it.

full lesbian sex scenes

I agree with the Krogan shit, it rubbed me on the wrong way
But the Salarian is not a girl boss, you can tell her to fuck off (and she dies to based cerberus anyways). The male salarians are still more important like my boy Mordin

If we're pretending like there's even a remote possibility Bioware could produce a decent game again:
Clean break from the first three outside of a few callbacks, smaller scale focus on characters and the day-to-day mechanics of how the setting actually works, bonus points for making the protag an alien. You're a detective with C-Sec. You're a new agent with the STG. You're part of some provisional security force formed in the fallout of the Reaper invasion and you're stationed on some important but unstable planet. The galaxy saving is over, we've already done that, there is no point in retreading that ground.

If we're being realistic: the only way for it not to be shit is for them to not make the game

considering the game completely derailed after the first nothing. Nothing can be done, short of bringing the entire original team back and starting over from 2 onward.
dead franchise.

there are few things nu-devs hate more than the protag being a nobody. It has to be capeshit. It has to have "huge stakes" (which it never does because it's all too detached and abstract) It's all doomed from the start

only thing that could save the franchise is do what star wars does and let various other studios make their own standalone games in the mass effect universe

It's AI, but I'll allow it.

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based anon also saving TES while he's at it

Make all female companions futanari

Have Bioware publically executed and EA's CEO doing a dogeza asking gamers for forgiveness.
Then have a 30-50 man studio handle it and pivot into making the game horny like ME1.

but then they won't be female you dummy

Not releasing it is probably the best thing they can do.

All it takes is the ones making the game to wish to make good game that sells.
If random fag on Anon Babble knows what sells games better than EA/Bioware then it means that the corpos chose to make money by creating propaganda and not by selling.

Throw everything in the bin and start over, also this

just kill all the people who made us like ME to begin with

Retard

Absolutely nothing if Bioware is making it. They literally have zero talent working for them

Any mods that make Liara's mom get more screentime?

realistically, what could be done to prevent mass effect 4 from being a massive train wreck?

Nothing. The talent that made Mass Effect and Dragon Age back when they were good left Bioware a long time ago.

AI is the only way to get decent asari art. Although now I think I have enough of skimpy gold dress asari. I'm open to suggestions for other kinds

take the IP away from BioWare and EA... and give it to Larian or CDPR... same for Dragon Age...

after DA:V nothing

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it will be interesting to see if Larian makes that space RPG and if it's another snorefest like starfield or an actually fun game

Reminder that it's canon that Asari are hot because of biotic manipulation of the brains of the host species they sexually parasitize, to make themselves more attractive. To Turians they look more like Turians, etc.

big agree. i don't see Larian making a sci-fi game where space is desolate, hopeless, and absent alien life though, so that alone will probably place it head & shoulders above Starfield. i don't know what Todd was thinking.

What's this kind of dress called where the naughty bits are technically covered up but leaves nothing to the imagination?

i wish an alien liked me enough to psychically manipulate me into perceiving her as a fucking bombshell. perception is 3/5ths of reality. ;-;

anon, i've warned you about being naughty online.

that makes it hotter

Mass Effect 2 finished the series for me. 3 was a spinoff. I'm looking forward to the hulk of new 3D porn that 4 will bring with it.

Nothing, you saw Failward. Bioware is done. Just make your peace with that and move on. You really don´t want to keep supporting a shell of a company for years believing the last few games were some kind of fluke, some sort of mistake that will or even could be rectified.

It never gets better. Ever. Just be thankful for what you had and maybe keep an eye out for the devs that made those games for you, unlike a corporate brand they may be more deserving of your loyalty.

4

Andromeda is already out and it fucking sucks

what I'm a bit worried about is that they make something too irony-poisoned. They're not the worst offenders to this but they definitely seem to skew towards comedy and self-awareness which undermines the overall narrative

Kill bioware, hand ot off to larian or cd pr red

If someone shows me picture of Asari which I never saw before, how will they manipulate my brain to make it look hot?

cause Diablo Immortal was D4, and D4 is rwally D5, obviously. fuckin' dummy.

just finished playing the legendary edition. last time i played was when me3 released, so i just started from scratch with 1.

i really enjoyed it, 3 with all the dlcs and "improved" endings felt so much better it actually made me mad i gave those niggers my money for 3 when it released.

cutting the prothean companion so he can be sold as dlc

citadel shore leave quest not part of the basegame

i hope bioware never makes another game. the original endings pissed me off so much i deleted the existence of these games from my brain until recently

Oh fuck no, 2077 is the worst rpg I've ever had the displeasure of playing.

Despite all, I loved ME 3
Now with the legendary edition, the trilogy is peak sci-fi RPG when Bioware used to have soul
Mass Effect ended with ME 3, Andromeda never existed and people better not be hyped by the incoming one after Failguard

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Just make sexy aliens and cute romances. Western devs are incapable of this now so the game will be a flop.

They also made Veilguard. A fresh take on ME by people who liked the original is the only thing that can save the franchise.

It will be Mast Effect : The Veilguard lmao
Why would you want that

Despite all, I loved ME 3

so did i. in fact i enjoyed replaying the trilogy so much im thinking about starting yet another PT but as female shepard and focusing on other companions, not just taking garrus or tali/liara with me all the fucking time

outsource to China like everything not just a bunch of assets.

Fuck cdpr, they deserve no support after they made edgerunners and 2077 and gone full woke. Owlcat would be a far better choice.

Larian would massively fail at making a ME game because ME is all about likeable companions that got the MC's back. The party in BG3 is somewhat antagonistic towards the player which could work in a Dragon Age setting but ME. A silent protagonist wouldn't work for ME either because he's meant to be an inspiration for his team. Your PC in DAO and BG3 always felt kinda "lame" not matter how cool his design or decisions were because all he ever did was emote awkwardly.

Bar anyone who has a history of writing or consuming fan fiction from holding creative roles, decide whether you want the game to be an rpg or whatever the fuck third person shit mass effect is. Summary execution for anyone involved in turning dragon age into some fantasy mass effect type game from a crpg.

None of this matters though, most of the people that will be screeing about it are 300+lb fujoshis, troons, and other sorts of eternally online retards, and they will buy it anyway.

I've tried doing that like 3 times and end up taking Liara and Garrus every time anyway.

The next Mass Effect must be a goon game like good old times. It being a space opera and it being a shipping simulator of various cute and sexy aliens were equally important. You can't be a badass space vessel commander without regularly sexing up alien chicks.

t. beta tested at launch instead of waiting for the 2.2 full release

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not just taking garrus or tali/liara with me all the fucking time

Are you me?, except I also pick Wrex/Legion a lot

Edgerunners and 2077 are masterpieces. i fucking weep for your inability to enjoy them. Owlcat are firmly affixed to GWS's cock right now, so good fucking luck. enjoy your single human woman from Africa in Dark Heresey, by the way. LOL

have shepard do pushups and pullups after fucking up an alien culture thing

Legion was such a bro. In my first playthrough of ME3 I let Tali an hero despite romancing her because I couldn't just stab my bro Legion in the back. I also didn't expect her to jump off a cliff lol

I played the entire game through after PL was released and hated it even more than the launch jank.

Not only do I not enjoy Edgerunners and 2077, I'd go so far as to say that playing the game and just learning about the plot of the anime made my life worse. Those two shit products only made me want to strangle the writers to death and that can't be healthy.

He took the bait. It's over.

Yeah, I can't help but feel passionately about bad writing.

1) Have the main character be a robot or 'kid'.
2) Make an incubus race that's the complete opposite the Asari like some Love and Deepspace looking alien boys
3) Create furry pandering alien designs.

That's where they're getting their money from fujos and furries. There's no hope for the humanoid female characters or heroic masculine male characters with leadership qualities

Broker peace between the Quarians and Geth knowing full well I'm going to pick the Destroy ending and shut those toasters off anyway

Replace everyone involved in it with about 7 white nerds in a garage.

realistically nothing can be done

Hmm. I agree with the first part but not the second and acknowledge your trips

Mass Effect game set during the Rachni Wars, based or cringe? Obviously can't have humans but that's arguably a plus

no one wants to fight Rachni for a whole game

There is more than enough interspecies conflict (and romance) to keep gameplay fresh

Post more of your AI slip anon

Dont post your AI slip anon

Don't let modern Bioware touch it

your spirit must look like the lungs of a 60-year pack-a-day smoker. Jesus Christ this is a bleak admission.

Not OP but I have this one

seconding this. jacking off to AI art is a crime against humanity and should eject your soul from samsara.

that's a weird resolution, have the original instead

see all it takes is the image being half-decent and coombrain friendly and one can have a decent thread for 2 hours without anyone sperging and calling you saar

The thread was 99% discussing ME 1% reacting to the shitty slop. I was almost proud of Anon Babble

Isn't being ejected from samsara a good thing?

bit of a retro space babe look

We need to go back

that's quite nice

I don't care for Asari outside of two or three, but I don't mind AI's take on them.

Well you're not incorrect. I have intensely disliked tragedy from the beginning but after experiencing actual tragedy I can't imagine why anyone would willingly go looking for even an echo of that emotion.

The longer you live and the more you experience, the better you understand that real life is miserable enough already without additional sources of misery like tragic stories.

yeah

as I said it's the only way to get decent asari art these days

futa cocks doko?

Bioware

It’s already fucked into the ground, anon. This game (and GTA 6) will only appeal to troons

What are these dresses called?
They super slutty but also quite elegant somehow

i like tragic stories because life is also tragic and miserable but doesn't often end in or even include anything grand or meaningful. and even if a setting is kinda bleak, like Cyberpunk; if it's sufficiently fantastical, it's still better than ours. i'd take a bleak and tragic life in Night City with high-highs over this boring ass life any day.

Look at Star Wars right now and see what's successful:

The new trilogy sucks, with the exception on Rogue One which was meh, but not insultingly bad.

Most of the TV shows suck, with the exception of The Mandalorian season 1 and the 2 seasons of Andor.

Conclussion: Keep Star Wars as far fucking away from the fucking jedi as much as possible. The whole Jedi Sith bullshit is too much of a golden cow to the fanbase for them to tolerate anything about them other than lightsaber go WOOM WOOM.

The best things from Star Wars right now are things that exist in the same universe, and have nothing to do with the main plot, evidence of this is with the second season of The Mandalorian, which is when that show started to go to shit with the inclusion of a jedi cameo every second episode, Season 3 is best not talked about.

Take this exact approach to mass Effect. Give me a story in the world that has NOTHING to do with what came before. No Reapers, no Shepard, no cameos by former crew members who may or may not still be alive, no Alliance, no Council, no Specters, no Cerberus, no favorite stores on the citadel, no Joker and his cringy relationship with Edi, that can exist, but it can exist somewhere far away from this game.

Make it low scale too, I'm just captain whatever, up for hire as security, transport, and any other odd job you have, have me involved in some big plan I should not be involved in and have me survive by the skin of my teeth. Have me either become a criminal, or a lone star in the unlawful side of space where neither the Alliance or the Citadel bother to control cause it's too troublesome. I don't need to save the galaxy again, all I need is enough credits to refuel my spaceship and have a good meal every now and then. In other words, give me the bastard child of Mass Effect and Cowboy Bebop.

They don't have a name, Azur Lane's version of this dress is called Luxurious Wheels dress, and that's because that's the name of the skin, and since no one knows what to call this, they just took the skins name and ran with it.

They don't exist IRL, at least not that lewd.
Closer you can get is a very revealing cocktail dress, but even the more revealing ones are not that revealing.
The real lewd ones are for sex games or prostitutes.

if you ask for SD slop 'revealing dress', 'cocktail dress' or 'evening gown' should do the trick, or one of the dresses mixed with 'revealing clothes'
as what it would be called IRL "revealing evening gown"

I've seen instagram whores wearing that type of stuff.

have Shepard wake up and realize ME3 was all a bad dream

start game with 30 minute long Liara torture and murder scene (interactive, of course)

show Quarian women getting BHC ports on their suits

show real pics of Mac Walters being roasted on a spit

narrow the scope to 3 characters (Shepard, Garrus, Tali)

But what you're saying is "life is so shit that even a miserable world like cyberpunk is better, because the misery in it pales in comparison to real life" and I completely get that. But with real life you don't get a choice, but with fictional worlds you do. So why would you choose cyberpunk when there are other options available?

Well, they are Instagram whores.
I'm not saying they don't literally exist. I'm just saying it's not real clothing brands sell.
Unless it's slutwear, of course.

What generator is that?

Pretty common in gatcha nowadays, but wish normal games would use them too.

Honestly, just have decent writing and artists. Bioware despite their endless faults are still not THAT bad when it comes to the actual gameplay. In fact the little I've tried of Veilguard is better in almost every way compared to DA:I(granted that's not saying much). It's mainly just the shockingly awful garbage writing and character design that is the main issue. Which admittedly is a pretty fucking big problem since story and character is the bread and butter of their games.

This
They are all over Twitter, and not just for cosplay

Much like Ubisoft, the talent there is gone.
I have no faith any Mass Effect will ever be good again.
Such a shame.

Cute dog.

AI slopper here, luxurious wheels has it's own danbooru tag, so you can just use that. if you use any of your other suggestions you need to clarify, adding plungin neckline, side slits, etc. Otherwise you just end up with a different kind of dress. Cocktail dress with just give you a little black dress instead of this slut gown for example, still slutty, but for entirely different reasons.

proof?
please

Saars, isn't it a little late for you two to be awake?

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The problem with your perception of Star Wars is that "successful" is not a metric fucking anyone agrees with. CGI Luke showing up in the Mandalorian and going "hi kids it's me Luke Skywalker, be sure to subscribe to Disney+ and may the force be with you" is one of the highest rated episodes. Meanwhile, the issue I'd say has nothing to do with proximity to the main plot of Star Wars (plenty of side adventures sucked donky cock), but the fact that nearly everyone at Disney has absolutely no talent for writing or directing. Broken plots, dialog that would not be out of place in a teenagers fanfic, utterly retarded attempts at 'theme', it's all fucked. Now that they've decided to stop going forward with Andor and that guy in charge is leaving, its all slop from here on out

thanks, was just slopping to try out myself
went with 'revealing silver evening gown' and that was the result, so whine not exactly it it's still pretty close

believe it or not, brands DO make these dresses, but you are right that they do not make them for public consumption. Well, the ownership type of public consumption, because these dresses are designed for one purpose and one purpose only:The red carpet.

These are the kinds of dresses you see some garbage tabloid talking about when they're talking about the current 20something holliwood start of the day, whose wearing some oscar de la rentah gown, or whatever he's called, this is what they're talking about.

SD, autismmix

the prompt I used was simply "skimpy golden dress". I like to keep the prompts broad so I get some variation in results

What the hell happened to BioWare? Why did they become so gay and bad?

The doctors quit. More than a decade ago.

What you call "Bioware" is nothing more than a brand now. Everyone who made the magic happen is either working someplace else or left the gaming industry altogether.

devs don't realize the appeal of smaller scale stories. It's a shame because it's often more real and easier to connect to than the grand plots that lack substance

A good mass effect game can not be made in the current day. It's lost technology like the moon landing, 2025 americans can't produce Mass Effect kino anymore the techniques are simply lost.

Most red carpet dresses do not show the kind of skin Ako's blued dress or St. Louis Luxurious Wheels. I'm pretty sjre St. louis dress does not have any kind of structure.
You'd probably find some examples in those porn star award shows. But that's like the exception of the exception.

Full frontal nudity.

losers flooding rule34 making it an unusable hellsite.

You know it's good when the hottest part of a picture of a woman is her smirk.

While you are correct about Luxurious Wheels, I beg to differ on Ako's blue dress, I could show you real life examples, but I don't want to deal with faggots bitching about their cantonese basketweaving forums being polluted by 3DP. As a mater of fact Ako's dress is so common, you can find normal women wearing them, in her case her dress is slutty because Ako is less of s dog and more of a sow, her tits will not stay covered up. As a mater of fact one of these normal women is pretty famous precisely for a variant of this dress, remember when that hot danish politician woma became a meme? that was her dress.

R34 was already an unusable hellshite, There;s a reason why the vast majority of us are using boorus instead.

And it doesn't work given that this is with that turned on.
Theres AI in some of those too sadly. But that site is basically still a booru.

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I mean, that one danish polititian looks very comfortable wearing revealing dresses and clothes on several ocasions.

turian squadmate romance
both male and female

i don't know if Cyberpunk would be my first choice on a worlds-to-live-in list, but of all the settings that come to mind, i think it has one of the best games trying to argue for it. my first choice would probably be the original Old Republic or the Forgotten Realms.

I don't really understand how you put "you have no control over your life, even your sense of self will be lost and all of your friends will cut ties with you if you go into a coma for 6 months" in the category of "a really good argument for wanting to live in that world". Those two picks I can agree with, even though I'd probably rather choose one of those chill Japanese isekai worlds where a harem of little girls is always at your fingertips. Or one of those cultivation worlds where you just meditate and become able to punch through walls through enlightenment.

nothing, the fact that this thread devolved into talking about the biggest trainwreck of all time proves it.

It's called the Slutty Suicide Style

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It's called the Slutty Suicide Style

Is this a reference?

At least there are still some other anons with excellent taste here
Gimme Turian gf and don't put her in a horrendous game this time, that's my demand

Realistically? Mass Effect was doomed from the start because the morality of the franchise was built on Universalism. In the first game, humanity is just one step removed from being a one race blob, were everyone is culturally amorphous. Later, that is extended to all alien races. Later, that is extended to the biological races and the technological AI races until everyone is basically the Borg from Star Trek.

that's because the plot of the trilogy was hijacked halfway through 2, after that it was just tumbling down until andromeda
all ME4 can do is be a completely reboot of the franchise

It's still very present in 1, and the framing of the Human supremacists (even though they are objectively correct) by the developers beats you over the head and tries comically hard to vilify the position to the player.

It's called the "escorts make my dick hard" dress

Cerberus did nothing wrong

Based.

Pulp space babe aesthetics

I look like this

Not slutty enough

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Women in public settings wearing dresses or clothing they are ashamed or embarrassed to be wearing

Incredibly hot, but makes no sense how you get into such a situation.

Love this artist's slutty girls

Big payday?

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What do you mean, all those Hollywood parties have women basically naked

Asari should've looked like this. Biowares clothing designs in all of their games have been horrible. The skintight sausage dress femShep wears to the formal parties is especially awful.

He will revive your dead franchise if you give him enough money and freedom.

I have seen a ton of cosplaying whores wearing this outfit, and yet no videos of them actually walking around.
I need to know just how much flashing is involved when they are in motion.

It just isn't possible. Social media addiction, Trump Derangement Syndrome and gay race communism has melted the minds of game studios.

You don't move around much in dresses like that. But they use double sided tape and tassels to keep it glued to the nipple area.

Its mostly kids desu, and the women that are want to wear it.

Simple, powerful man with lots of money and/or leverage on her tells her what to wear and saying no to him isn't an option

They either have to go full autism and do a dragon age keep thing for past choices and make it meaningful, or go full new character and let you play as other races.
Also fire anyone who had anything to do with bioware since the decline started but thats a given

Garage kit or real figure?

I don't get this outfit, is she just showing her bare ass?

larian with the mass effect license

realistically, what could be done to prevent mass effect 4 from being a massive train wreck?

Bring back Shepard again, no selectable femshep this time, women and faggots can fuck off. No same sex relationships, no current year social commentaries.

"Young males tend to have an unhealthy obsession with my species"

Exactly what kind of semenmancy are asari capable of to have males of every species willing to risk it all?

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Real in amiami (that my ISP has apparently blocked).

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can literally project the hottest image of a female that you can imagine into your mind while fucking

I wonder why.

A turn-based scifi game with an infinite budget post-BG3. I don't even want to let my mind wander there.

cancel it

is she just showing her bare ass?

yes,it's the same dress as

Ew

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These wouldn't even be so off-place in a real movie or a music gala anymore tho.

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no pubes version

That'd be really tempting if I bought lewd/ero figures.
I really had to restrain myself when an H artist I really like got a figure to my surprise. 2 now actually.