[Miserable News] Touhou Creator ZUN says “People who hate and deny AI are losers."

Everybody thinks this already. (Except for obsolete 'artists' and voice actors)

adobe says their AI is fair.

lmao what is with japs just not questioning corpos bullshit?

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AI slop

TROONHOU TRVTHKE

Slop 'em Up

[Miserable News] Japanese Man is Based

Sounds based.

Japs are still asians, which means they're still collectivist bug people at the end of the day.

yes saar we love the ai thank you muchly fack the benchods

Hope this makes the tranny western """fandom""" drop him like hot shit

bluesky

NOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN' JOBS!!!

to be fair zun was always a talentless hack that got lucky
even his music that troons love to fellate is just plagiarized left and right

touhoufags on suicide watch lmao

your series was never good btw

play hellsinker.

It's fucking touhou. It had shitty 3D shapes for backgrounds and even worse drawings.

TRVTHNVKE

How is he wrong? People who hate AI are ones who can't create art that is better than AI.

Based.

NOOOO AI IS SHIIIITTT! PAY ME 300 DOLLARYDOOOS FOR SITTING ON MY FAT ASS FOR AN AFTERNOON TO DO SOME DRAWING!

Fuck them if they dont want to adapt to new tech.

That bluesky troon clearly has a very loose grasp of Japanese but I appreciate the video link, pretty informative.

i mean who cares either way companies and people are going to use ai no matter what, it's part of everyday life now and it's not going anywhere

they should REALLY work on that ai that gives money to products made with ai

Touhou has been shit since TD.

hopefully

What cunts are doing on Twitter isn't news but you can go back you cross posting piece of shit since you like scrolling it so Danm much.

BUT TOUHOU

Nobody cares. He's right.

ZUN being based for once

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaased

"BASED ZUN HMMMM YES BACKGROUNDS ARE NOT IMPORTANT YES BASED"

The original Touhou games had stolen art in them. ZUN being an AI slopper should surprise nobody.

he was and has always been a hack

We both know that's not the end of it for anyone here, sod off.

literal who twitter screencap instead of just posting ZUN's actual statement

KILL yourself

NOOOOOOOO that background could have been made by a black transwoman instead of ai you chudderino!!!!!!!!!

true, all his previous games were made with the help of black transwomen

I know this is a bait thread, but this is actually a very good video. Excellent points about the selfishness of it all.

He is wrong, however, about the potential of A.I. and that's probably because he sees the tech as a black box. Most people do, they don't understand that this whole process isn't "artificial intelligence" just a statistical model. It is not going to improve exponentially, in fact it is going to see less and less improvement over time and is nearly at it's ceiling already. There will not be any "symphonies, animated shows, video games" at the push of a button.

Based, hopefully trannies will axe themselves

AI is here to stay and nuclear is the future. humanity will progress without fake "progressives" holding it back.

Seems legit
N O T

I don't have a single artistic bone in my body and i will never even touch something that had AI used in its creation. AI does not belong anywhere near art, and it's sad to no end that you fags just slurp up something entirely devoid of human soul.

Ofc not, AI is an advanced automation tool that can talk to you and make suggestions. It's going to be a useful tool for people who can already make symphonies, animated shows and video games. The seething is because it could replace some dude who is just an activist on Twitter and does no heavy lifting.

its ok if i use ai but if son of PIG AMELICAN DO IT BRING DISHONOUR

I'm quoting the fucking video...

Sir is this the AI? DO NOT MOTHERFUCK USE THE AI BLOODY BENCHOD MOTHERFUCK!!!

ZUN has become a copyright striking AI jeet

just end this timeline

TD is Fuckin GOOD as fuck

I didn't read any of that but I feel slightly less racist because of this image.

copyright striking

Meds. Never happened.

AI

Based

Zun says his art is so bad and unimportant there should be no problem with replacing it with AI.

True.
Now let's see what he think about AI music.

Touhou trannies are the new bronies and I'm glad something bad is happening to them.

SAAR THE ADOBE SAY IT FAIR AND NEEDFUL OK BLOODY BENCHOD

new

Anon...

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based zun

Based centrist.

"I just wanna draw cute youkai for kami's sake."

Same gameplay for 20 years

Same mediocre art, now AI generated

Only bit of effort is the music

Does he now see the irony in promoting shit that could easily replace him?

What is "BG"?

Pretty fucked up that he thinks any part of his games is unimportant.

feb 12 2021

Not new

lol, lmao

Based. Fuck luddites.

he's right

unimportant

Key word. AI is best used in any place where otherwise you’d be comfortable buying some asset from an asset store. If backgrounds are filler content for your game, genning them is fine. It’s not pretending to be real art or the equivalent of true creative output. It’s backfill. AI slop is fine for that.

I don’t have a problem with AI inherently, but if you do use them in a game it shouldn’t be full priced or it should be like the Darth Vader AI voice in Fortnite where its impossible to not use AI otherwise.
If you aren’t using humans because AI is cheaper and faster, I fully expect a price drop.
Anon the backgrounds for Touhou games have been stock images he finds.

AI is just a tool. It's never been a one trick method to have good artwork. The best it can do is speed up the process but there are always problems with it.

Anon, horsefuckers were the second age. In the first age there were 2hufags. In the second age there were ponies. In the third age there were jaks. In the fourth age there are vtubers.

EVEN KENGAN OMEGA'S ARTIST LOVE USING AI FOR KENGAN

implying Touhou was never slop in the first place

zun is a talentless hack, more news at 11

Hating on AI art is anti-art itself because AI opens art for the disabled. There ware crippled people who literally can only talk and the power of generative AI allows them to use speech to text to create all the things they never were able to in the past. Why should we deprive them of that purely because some twitter nerds are upset?

Anime is all slop so it's a natural fit for AI.

and just like that he lost every bit of respect i had for him

The backgrounds in touhou could be solid black and nobody would give a shit

Even if they were around a long time they've gotten far more cancerous the past few years.

So true sister, AI is like a combat wheelchair IRL!

when the real AI (agi or asi) comes we are going to lose the last chance to find a woman by being a betabuxer, my fellow Anon Babbleincels
no man, no matter what he can do or how he's good at it, will be needed
it will be unironically over for everyone but the most exceptional chad and tyrone

Do you not know why Anon Babble exists?

Minus the old 80s/90s anime. Which is why Mad Mullet Jack is a great game.

just tells the vocal minority western troons to fuck off

chadlike behavior, more japanese artists should follow suit instead of buckling to their bullshit. getting on this much of a soapbox over him using it for minor assets is retarded.

He doesn't know.

I know this is a bait thread, but this is actually a very good video. Excellent points about the selfishness of it all.

Based and red pilled.

He is wrong, however, about the potential of A.I. and that's probably because he sees the tech as a black box. Most people do, they don't understand that this whole process isn't "artificial intelligence" just a statistical model. It is not going to improve exponentially, in fact it is going to see less and less improvement over time and is nearly at it's ceiling already. There will not be any "symphonies, animated shows, video games" at the push of a button.

Cringe and blue pilled.

You almost made it to my level but since you're half based and intelligent I'll ask, why the fuck do you think it won't keep getting better? Why do you even think it has to get "exponentially" better with the quality it's already at?

backgrounds are minor assets

you guys don't really have any standards do you?

I had this same thought recently.
You'd think twitter liberals would be okay with this, but for some reason they're now the ones crying over losing jobs to retards.

BACKGROUNDS ARE NOT IMPORTANT GIVE ME EASY MON- AAAACK

you're brown
BOOM. DONE.

Fourth age would be whiners like yourself.
It makes sense to use AI as a tool and for efficiency gains. Especially when you have no one on staff that can be able to do these things normally which ZUNE is doing. It's no different than Photoshop. Photoshop is technically cheating because you are not redrawing from a fresh paper over and over again when messing up.

Based. Only jealous artists and mentally ill contrarians hate on AI.

The car comparison is so fucking funny because cars well more specifically car companies are a major reason why everything is so fucked anymore. Illegal for line to not go up is literally because of these faggots.

They always cite the cripples who paint with their feet and leave it at that. It's genuinely disgusting behavior.

Hoping for western touhou "fans" to finally move on

Yeah those are not backgrounds. They are locations. But nice try, troon.

I made the background of the spellcards an ad for erectile dysfunction. If you don't make the spellcards an advertisement then you're going to lose eventually. Advertisements are everywhere. I made it an advertisement because my kids would see advertisements, and I wanted to show them the right way to do it. If you don't make the background an advertisement for erectile dysfunction, then you're rolling over and losing to advertisements. At least I'm not making everything an advertisement for erectile dysfunction, because that would be losing too. I don't want to be a loser. I've won. I've conquered erectile dysfunction.

Gigachad Zun moment

This thread smells like New Delhi.

This

Locations serve as background in games just like that shitty touhou game, saar. Go promt some more, rajeesh

No fucking way

Anon, being Indian isn’t a disability.

Nah, a 3D location you can walk around in is very different than the 2D backgrounds in a schmup. Your argument is really stupid, as are you. But hey, nice try troon.

Yeah car companies not cars, and in the future it'll be whatever is next. Not regressing back to public transportation or bicycle riding like it's the 1810s
Fake progressives will always be left behind debating on what a woman is or why getting stabbed while using public transportation is a good thing while humanity actually moves forward.

corpo

Cringe

But faggot-kun, Hatsune Miku is AI.

i dont care as long as i get to own the troons

yes, i think the spell card backgrounds that he was using stock images for before are minor assets, and getting your panties in a bunch over it because you're so hooked on culture war shit that you can't comprehend the concept of nuance is delusional.

jeets have arrived

When will I be able to make my own version of MHA?

you're so hooked on culture war

okay this was the funniest thing you could possibly tell me

Because that's how machine learning works, anon. The more specialised your needs, the more tailored your function has to become and the more training it needs. I.e. more expenditure for less and less return. Compounding this problem is the fact that the data quality (important for the training) tends to degrade the more niche your purpose is.

BASED
excited to see zun adopt AI waifus too into his games, AI chads stay winning

Not regressing back to public transportation

or why getting stabbed while using public transportation

bicycle riding

Spoken like someone who's never been to an actual first world country.

Fake news

Based. Zun is exactly the kind of mediocre artist who could use AI to improve his work. I'm glad he recognizes that ,instead of whining about AI like all the other mediocre artists who lost their jobs.

a synthesizer voice isn't an AI you faggot

Based. Hope his tranny base kill themselves

They're training bigger and more general models and working on RL too. Specialization comes way later, none of the models you're basing your ideas on have been specialized lol. So when they are specialized don't you think there will be even more gains?
And what about ever new mode, like the new google ones, how does that fit in your narrative? There is zero evidence that what you're saying is accurate, and you seem to have ignored the other question I asked, you just being willfully ignorant?

improve

Replace.

It's only some icons, it doesn't matter

It's only promo art, it doesn't matter

It's only 2D backgrounds, it doesn't matter

It's only some textures, it doesn't matter

It's only the voice acting, it doesn't matter

It's only the animations, it doesn't matter

It's only the models, it doesn't matter

It's only the story, it doesn't matter

It's only the gameplay, it doesn't matter

Every game now looks, sounds and plays like shit, it doesn't matter as long as I get to own the troons

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Have the pro-AI shills in this thread actually played Touhou 20? It's buggy as shit and the illuminati stones are the most unbalanced mechanic I've seen in a Touhou game. Is this really the game you want to prop up? Between 19 and this demo I feel like ZUN has given up. I want to be proven wrong but I don't imagine we'll see massive changes to the game's fundamental systems between now and launch

never left his cubicle or 100sq ft apartment

Keep crying while you get left behind
Good morning saar public transportation good saar
You can't even afford a vehicle bud

After all the flops in 2024, Trump winning, and rise of AI, I wonder how much tran suicide rates have increased.

Every game now looks, sounds and plays like shit, it doesn't matter as long as I get to own the troons

Probably from like 64 to 70 at this point

They already made it shit faggot, only difference is they're the ones getting mad now.

I just use to generate pictures of vidya characters on the toilet

Why, because it completely counters your argument?

lmao look at this fucking imbecile pretending this board ain't 90% comments about how everything sucks. Watch him squirm as he deliberately tries to ignore how AI can already do a better job than a good chunk of artists putting out games, webcomics, animations, commissions, etc...

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No you piece of shit. Not everyone has feet, obviously most people can't use them for painting, and most people even if they could wouldn't want to do that.

Creating AI Anon Babble with 2hus in honor of zun

literally steal background.jpg from some old CD-ROM

Anon Babble: ...

use AI to generate background.jpg

Anon Babble: ASDFDSSDASDDSASDFFSADFASSFFDDFDSAS

hehe, I will post some dogshit literally who game made by some trannies and pretend every game that comes out now is exactly like this, no exceptions, to prove AI slop is superior. That will show him!

Respond coherently next time.

AI is realistically going to take all jobs and we can only hope the overlords will be generous with their slop rations

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auto-sage

Nice.

everyone I don’t like is Indian

Get some new material.

you tell 'em, saar

Go play Mars Matrix
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our modsisters came through for us once again.

t. retard that hasn't looked at upcoming games and will pretend AAA is the norm