How does it feel picking the GENOCIDE ENDING? Did you enjoy seeing the npcs get vaporized...

Buy an ad you fucking pajeet shill scum.

But the genocide happened in Act 2? By act 3 only the expedition 33 was alive

Very worth it. I gommaged while she's on top

But the genocide happened in Act 2?

Shhh don't tell them, let the delusion go on

To be fair, I find Maelle's ending more tragic and interesting. Verso's ending is too cliche and naive.
Alicia is so damaged by the real world, she prefers to run away to a make-believe world, where neither she nor her loved ones have to suffer ever again. And the only one unhappy is Verso, because he knows it's all wishful thinking of a broken, traumatized girl. That shit's powerful.

I finished the game yesterday and I kept thinking during the final confrontation about how right Renoir was.
Yeah destroying the painting might've been a bit much. But Maelle is an impulsive 16 year old having a whole lot of difficulties processing her grief, which is understandable. And his wife wasn't doing too hot either. Could they really be trusted to have healthy boundaries with it without letting themselves be consumed by it?
Verso might be a hypocrite, but he fully admits that and wants the best for everyone, including the last fragment of Verso's soul that's more trapped in the canvas than reveling in it.
As to be expected, the child's world was wonderful. But things only went to shit once the rest of the family started diving into the canvas and painted a whole mess in there.

People who think Renoir did anything right are brainlets. He's the one who needlessly escalated this conflict.

he lost himself and Aline saved him. He's returning the favor because she's doing exactly that, and Alicia is following her at 3x speed.

We the players unknowingly committed genocide in Act 2, but learned we could bring them back in Act 3. Refusing to bring them back would make us complicit in genocide, hence the "genocide ending"

i am never going to play this slop, can someone explain in 3 sentences what the gencoide is actually about? is it another jews dindu nuffin meme? is it like fuzzies in jet force gemini? whats their angle?

He's the one who needlessly escalated this conflict.

So you're saying that he should have let his wife to rot inside the canvas? I knew people on Anon Babble were mentally ill but not on this level

Play it.

I'm not explaining it to you. You can play the game yourself. That way you can find out what happens exactly.

p-p-please Maelle I just want to die don't send me to the piano mines

But Maelle can bring them back in her own canvas if she wants to

Was Maelle's ass worth it?

I dunno. Maybe someone with pictures of it could convince me...

no. I wont. Ever.

No, but I guess there has to be a middle ground between "I will leave my wife to die in a canvas" and "I will throws axons at her and yell at her to come out".
Renoir's tendency to just pick the most extreme solution every time actually caused more trouble. Because even Alicia (especially Alicia) was willing to meet him half-way, until he started yelling at her and blowing up the planet.

was it just me or did Maelle look more old and haggard every time it jump cut away then back to Maelle during this scene? Maybe it's just the lighting/perspective/camera angle.

They have all aged a bit. Lune for instance has grey streaks in her hair.

I did the Maelle ending a few days ago and holy shit, Maellefags either have negative media literacy or they're completely deluded if they can't recognize the obvious bad vibes from this ending.
For fucks sake, it literally features a jump scare dingaling sound. All the restored NPCs look different, the b&w scene in 4:3, etc.

:'(

my favourite thing is when they try and claim that she might not stay in the canvas until it kills her despite the story beating you over the head with the fact that it will happen

The fact they talk about "Aline always finding the canvas and reentering it because she's addicted" implies they tried different approaches, smoothbrain.

plebs who think E33 is some masterpiece of storytelling can't recognize the point of picking Verso's ending

Should we act surprised?

That's too much too handle

jump scare dingaling sound. All the restored NPCs look different, the b&w scene in 4:3, etc.

Who cares? Alicia wasn't even addicted. She could quit anytime and her parents were inside for waay longer. This is all a massive overreaction

is guillaume broche jew

true she can quit anytime she wants she's just you know.....enjoying it at the moment but she is not addicted she pinky swore she wasn't

I'm not addicted I can leave whenever I want

then leave for a day or two so you don't die

NO

nah but he def has southern genes

How does it feel picking the GENOCIDE ENDING?

Good.

youtube.com/watch?v=WKlcTG8GbB8

game has been out for 33 days and people are still saying "NOOO THE PEOPLE YOU BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE AREN'T REAL THEY'RE DIFFERENT" with 0 evidence and 0 convincing arguments

Retarded animal

Maelle can’t leave because she only exists there.
The Verso ending is not just genocide, it literally kills Maelle and leaves only Alicia.

verso
verso knows the world is fake and gay
everything must burn

In like how this game is basically Prologue -> Ending. Don't see anytime talking about anything else.

You literally misunderstood the point you replied to

When the game got too popular and the secondaries and didn't plays start throwing their opinions as if they understand Verso.

Maelle got deleted after act 2.
Act 3 onwards it's Alicia and it becomes more evident the more you go through the game.

The fact that I see FFTA posts from people who supposedly "understand" Verso and support him, means they didn't understand Verso

How are you this retarded xd

Because even Alicia (especially Alicia) was willing to meet him half-way

Did you forget the part where Renoir knew she was full of shit and that she coping? Verso explicitly calls her out on her lying to her father.

Most people play it without blogposting to avoid spoilers. I did the same while playing
the actual gameplay and build discussion happens in the Anon Babble general.

Canvases are evil.
They require enslaved soul fragments to function with said fragments being self aware enough to give consent when offered the sweet release of death.
The writers did nothing wrong.

Maelle can bring them back in her own canvas

yea, but shes a terrible artist so they'd probably look like this.

I'm pretty fucking sure the FFTA posts are memes anon.....

You guys are real cucks
There is nothing wrong with genocide

It was after he was proven to be uncompromising to a fault. At first, her take was "dad's here, he's very sweet, we'll just talk it out, he will help me fix this". That it turned out dad doesn't want to talk and her opinion of him soured drastically.

Can someone explain to me how did Sciel and Lune deal with the Axons? somehow the Axons failed to control them for some reason but i dont remember that being explained.

Don't doubt the depth of stupidity out there

Real Verso's passion was the piano but his family forced him to paint

Now painted Verso is forced to play piano by his family

I suppose there's meant to be some kind of message in all this about the relationship between game devs and their producers.

I don't think there's any deeper meaning to it, it's just a fun moment for each of the characters who didn't really have much of a direct connection to the main plot.

Verso getting mad at Alicia for being wishy-washy about the truth ONCE

lem ao

Why the fuck do Maellefags think that the Verso ending is genocide?

You should kill yourself NOW!

Willpower.

This is not brought up enough. Painters kill a tiny piece of themselves with every Painting and require it to work forever. The Painters are also at high risk of becoming lost and addicted to their own work but keep the cycle going anyway.

You don't need to be a "maellefag" to understand the moral travesty of this situation. Both endings a shit, but if you want to support Verso, be like Renoir and own it, you had to kill people because it's necessary.

Seems to me like its an asspull, it comes out of nowhere.

But why do you think that it's genocide when Verso hasn't killed anyone in the present of the game?

What part of the "artist puts a part of their soul into their art" metaphor you failed to understand?

Verso hasn't killed anyone in the present of the game

Julie, letting Gustave die, his father, everyone in Lumière who got gommaged because of his lies by omission, driving his sister to suicide

Trusting an addict when you saw your wife lose herself in the canvas at the cost of her own health

Showing Maelle the pitiful state of her mother, your wife

She's flimsily confident she'll be fine and can be trusted to step out of the canvas every now and then, after going on a tirade about how this is the only place she feels like a person and not a burnt-up shell

Yes Renoir was a little heavy-handed. But I can't fault him for that
He did say he was a hypocrite. Yes he's an ass for getting mad at her for lying when he's the worst offender, but he's not wrong for caring about her health and that of her mother.

The issue is that I DON'T know if it's necessary. I don't even know if I'm actually improving things. The game wants me to bank the fate of the whole world and happiness of one, traumatized girl that I like on the vague idea that things might get better. Eventually. Somehow.
That's not enough for me.

What the fuck is the point of destroying the canvas and driving Aline out of it if this is the case? If they can just go recreate everything somewhere else, Renoir should have spent all that time destroying all the paintbrushes in Paris, not fighting in the canvas.

The issue is that I DON'T know if it's necessary. I don't even know if I'm actually improving things. The game wants me to bank the fate of the whole world and happiness of one, traumatized girl that I like on the vague idea that things might get better. Eventually. Somehow.

You now understand why Painted Alicia killed herself. These people aggressively refuse talking to each other.

Julie

Is in the past. i specifically said the present.

Gustave

Being unwilling to save a person that you could =/= killing them.

everyone in Lumiere

Renoir did that, not him. Stop trying to Kevin Bacon everything to Verso.

Alicia

Alicia killed her. Again, stop trying to Kevin bacon everything to him.

She's flimsily confident she'll be fine and can be trusted to step out of the canvas every now and then, after going on a tirade about how this is the only place she feels like a person and not a burnt-up shell

Sunshine, what part of "Alicia doesn't care if she lives or dies, because her real life is just that miserable" you failed to notice. Renoir keeps saying her "but you'll die" when her whole point from the start is that she has nothing to live for in the first place.

please leave so that we can destroy the world while you're gone

NO

omg you're addicted

The true good ending is locked behind Gustave not being alive and Verso not passing Painted Alicia's letter to Maelle.

There might be a deeper connection between those two and the characters who created each Axon.
My assumption for Sciel was that since she's already using a 'mask' of positive nihilism to cover her suicidal depression the Axon's attack had no effect on her.
Lune I dunno. Maybe because she's the most naturally curious and excitable character she was able to overcome the wonder enchantment.

Julie, letting Gustave die, his father, everyone in Lumière who got gommaged because of his lies by omission, driving his sister to suicide

Verso was kind of a shithead, wasn't he? Being handsome does get you a pass for a lot of things.

Verso killed everyone then later made it so that they also can't comeback and destroys their entire world.
And this is seen as the "good" ending by a lot of people.

Lune I dunno. Maybe because she's the most naturally curious and excitable character she was able to overcome the wonder enchantment.

Naw. She broke through it because her parents just looked at her with pride instead of treating her as a lab assistant/plan B.

Renoir did that, not him.

Because he lied to the Expedition that taking out the Paintress would save them. He is responsible.

Alicia killed her.

She killed herself because her only hopes for a future with her family alive were destroyed by Verso. She didn't even call him family anymore.

Maelle got deleted after act 2

act 3 name: Maelle

Retard.
The entire Act 3 is about deciding whether you want to kill Maelle for Alicia or keep her alive.

where everyone lives

suicide ending

you weren't paying attention

The best I can think of for Lune is that not being controlled by Sirene reflects her not being controlled by her parents expectations for her
I really do think this is more a case of "the curtains were fucking blue" though

No, Verso says Maelle will always be part of her, canvas or not

i don't play slop

whether you want to kill Maelle for Alicia or keep her alive.

Are you retarded? Verso tells Alicia to go and be Maelle in another canvas, it was never about "escapism", it was always about grief.

Because he lied to the Expedition that taking out the Paintress would save them.

At no point does he say that taking out the paintress would save them. In fact, relating the paintress the only thing he had to say about the matter is that killing the paintress would let them kill painted Renoir without having to deal with his immortality, which without curator Renoir's intervention would have been the truth.

If painters can just bring people back infinitely there is no actual impact to whatever "genocide" you are imagining. Their lives are absolutely meaningless if their deaths aren't real, it doesn't matter how sentient they are.
The only people that matter are outside the Canvas.

killing two people and preventing 50 years of SLAVERY and TORTURE under an EVIL TYRANNICAL DRUG ADDICTED JUNKIE

Genocide

Maellefags are truly retarded

destroys their entire world.

things that never happened

Moonlight, that's not lost on me. I'm chalking that up to her being a 16 year old girl. Granted, we kind of know fuckall about the outside world, and what interacting with the canvas in a healthy way means. So maybe it is all hopeless for her outside of it. I'm just assuming Renoir had the faith in his family that they'll find a way for everyone to be happy and healthy.
You could call Renoir a bit delusional and selfish for trying to force Maelle to come back without at least trying to console her and discussing with her how he'll do his best to help her have a nice life outside the canvas, which is fair. She's a child, and the family fucked up a bit to the point she feels like she has no life outside. But I can't blame Renoir trying to get her out of there when it's harming her health.
It's out of love. Even if he's not going about it in the best way.

Destroying a painting is genocide

Uninstalling a game is NPC genocide

Forgetting your imaginary friend is murder

Painters kill a tiny piece of themselves with every Painting and require it to work forever

I thought this was a play on an artist pouring their heart and soul into their work not some Harry Potter horcrux shit

There is no other Maelle in any other canvas. Maelle exists only in that canvas, she was born there, lived an entire 16y life with her family there, with a different personality and everything.
The only difference between Maelle and the painted people is that she has Alicia’s powers and memories.

Both endings are not shit you retarded Maellefag
The game is about grief and each ending is about moving on vs not moving on. It's literally that simple, everything else is just cope

I'm chalking that up to her being a 16 year old girl

Not only that, she's a 16 year old girl twice over, so she's double the drama queen. I'm surprised that her outfit outside the painting wasn't all black like a hot topic reject.

maelle listens to mcr

what are false pretenses

what is lie by omission

Do you really want to litigate this point?

the guy who lied the entire game said so, so it's true!

Maelle disappears in the Verso ending, only Alicia remains. You kill Maelle in that ending.

I didn’t play the game so the characters don’t exist. None of you are real either you’re just text on a screen and die the moment I close this tab.

lie by omission

Even before painted Renoir massacred the living shit out of them their entire goal was to go and kill the paintress. He was under no obligation to dissuade them from that objective.

Retarded speed reader
Everything act 3 on is purely Alicia. The Alicia that exists from then on, and the Alicia that exists after Verso's ending is an Alicia who simply has all of Maelle's memories from birth up through the end of act 2.
Saying "you're Maelle" is telling her she's not the scared sheltered girl who stays couped up in her room, she's the girl who set off on an adventure to do anything she wanted to do, and she can keep being that girl no matter what canvas she goes to next.

the curtains were fucking blue

the real answer is that the devs just wanted to throw them some last second pity relevancy before the plot became solely about the Uchiha I mean Dessendre family drama.

She was already more than dead then.
There's a HUGE personality shift the moment Alicia takes over.

But anon, so are you.

Renoir had the faith in his family that they'll find a way for everyone to be happy and healthy.

Renoir actually didn't have any faith in his family whatsoever, otherwise he wouldn't be do pushy. Alicia even brings it up when she asks him why can't he just have faith that Aline will eventually come to terms with her grief. And Renoir just goes "no, fuck you, I don't trust her". And then Alicia's natural train of thought was that "if he doesn't trust his wife, why would he ever trust ME?".

saar they aren't actually alive, they don't matter, my morality comes only from strength, Renoir was LITERALLY doing NOTHING for the entire game, no moral weight or difficult decisions, the game doesn't matter, my media literacy degree taught me about themes

Oh good, the asmongoloids woke up

Verso tells Alicia to go and be Maelle in another canvas, it was never about "escapism", it was always about grief.

This just goes to show how fucking stupid his emotional ass is. What the fuck is the point of leaving if she's just going to go and do the same thing somewhere else? "Alicia, please stop doing heroin. You can go do heroin in another room!".

Just let the crippled mute girl play on da playground ffs

Even the actors of the game are saying it's about grief and that Verso's ending is the right one lol
If you couldn't tell the game is about grief you are truly a dumb fuck

Objectively Correct Alicia ranking
1. Painted Alicia
2. Maelle
3. Crispy Alicia
4. Malicia

Renoir actually didn't have any faith in his family whatsoever, otherwise he wouldn't be do pushy

This is correct, he demands total control and the nuclear option because he doesn't trust his family members.
We know what happened to the one character who trusted her family members to do the right thing.

She can play on any playground she wants, except the one where every step she makes tortures and abuses a dozen people who she makes her slave to olay there whilst her soul is ripped out and she dies in a few weeks if she keeps playing there

everyone lives

Until Maelle can't be a NEET anymore and everyone dies anyway.
Not to mention everyone knows she's a wish-granting god now. Do you think that will do nothing to the social fabric of the world?
Maelle cucks are truly the most shortsighted of retards. They spend the entire fucking game seeing the meatgrinder that the canvas is and they go "yeah, let's continue"

It's not just about doing it elsewhere, but also being able to leave to do it elsewhere. The thing that caused Verso's spinning gears to come to the conclusion leading to the Verso ending was seeing how a prolonged escapism stay had fucked up Aline badly, and he does not want Maelle doing that, not over him.

She deserved better.

Play it

playing turnbased games is not playing. it's juggling numbers.

No, if you look at her in the ending cg cutscene she is more confident and not self-conscious, like she was in the fake out epilogue.
She matured.

kek

What the fuck is the point of leaving if she's just going to go and do the same thing somewhere else? "

She's not going to. She is addicted to Verso"s canvas because it's Verso's
Not to say she cant ever be addicted to another canvas, but the reason she's addicted to this one is grief and she won't find that same false relief in another canvas

"Alicia, please stop doing heroin. You can go do heroin in another room!".

Wow, almost as if he doesn't actually care for Maelle-Alicia, he cares for himself to fulfill his selfish goals and die. If he's such an altruistic person, why did he cause his actual sister to die?
His last words are begging to be killed, nothing about the canvas or Alicia. He's a hypocrite selfish liar like all of them.

Maelle/Alicia schizo faggot is so seething mad they had to make a thread about it

Kek, you're mentally ill and I'm laughing about it. Go buy a Barbie dollhouse and play make-believe with your dollies, faggot.

ignores the act 3 name

ignores verso screaming "MAELLE" instead of "Alicia" when she erased painted Alicia

ignores "fight as Maelle"

ignores the black-and-white screen in Maelle’s ending as a symbol of Alicia appearing

ignores she saying "I prefer Maelle"

And I’m the speedreader here? Why is it so hard for Versofags to admit that they killed Maelle in their ending to free Alicia from grief?

this thread again

No, his last words are "its ok, its over. Verso"
You know since the Verso ending will blatantly be the canon one

pAlicia wank

Dead bitch don't talk. Just stay death and everything will be fine. For i, the REAL Alicia will take a good care of my beloved brother Verso.

Until Maelle can't be a NEET anymore and everyone dies anyway.

We don't know any of this shit.
All you "da people in da painting gonna die" are all fucking retards.
NO ONE KNOWS what the fuck will happen to a painting once the soul in int stops painting. There isn't anything in the game that establishes what happens.
The threat of "everyone dies" comes from Renoirs threats of destroying the canvas. Has fuck all to do with Verso's soul no longer painting, or even Alicia dying.
If in the Maelle ending Alicia dies but Aline doesn't start jumping right back in, Renoir has no fucking reason to destroy the painting.
If in the Verso ending neither Aline nor Alicia go off to become painting methheads in Verso's canvas all over again, then Renoir wouldn't have reason to destroy the painting.
The man literally says that he does not want to destroy the painting. He's just backed into a corner with that as the seemingly only way to stop the women in his family (minus Clea) from overdosing on Narnia.

Finally someone mentions it. He wanted to play piano in the opera house, and he wanted to die. So she made him an old man so he could do both

Does the ending that reveals his true motivations not count? Why?

Stop speed reading.
Maelle and Alicia are fused from act 3 on and they don't ever become unfused in Verso's ending because she still has all of her memories

Look people, everyone in the game is fucking insane. The sanest people are unironically Monaco and Esquie. Half the people in the game aren't even fucking real. They're painted humans given life/consciousness in a painted world. Monaco and Esquie don't even exist, and I feel like they knew the truth about the Canvas/world anyway.

I will admit in the Maelle ending it's funny seeing Esquie and Monaco acting as bouncers at the Opera House. I did cry when Verso said goodbye to them, and they all hugged each other in Verso's ending. Monaco is a total bro and so is Esquie, but Monaco especially. Also fun fact that I'm not sure many people know, but Monaco is the name of the family dog and Verso might have named him. There is a part in the game where you go back to the real world/real manor as Alicia, and if you walk over to the fireplace you'll see a dog sleeping, and if you interact with it, you'll see that its name is Monaco.

his true motivations not count?

please alicia get verso's soul to stop painting and kill me alongside my life is hell already and keeping on existing will only kill you

You learn all this in the game.

good thing that this one has some actual active gameplay then

It's actually Monoco the third, with another dog, Noco.

Because it's VERSO'S canvas. It's the last thing they have of him, and Aline and Alicia are clinging to it. Renoir wants his family, and Clea wants to take a steamy revenge shit on some Anon Babblefaggot's face.

We don't know any of this shit

Imagine being this fucking illiterate. Holy shit dude, actually lobotomize yourself.

Yea and then he realized his little sister is a crack addict and he had to destroy the canvas
He didnt want to continue living, but thats beside the point. He was willing to make a small sacrifice and go on for a bit more to make Maelle happy until he realized she would never leave
Also you're retarded if you think she lets him die lmfao.

I've come to see that finishing a game isn't worth it, the endings are almost always shit.
The endings I can come up with in my head are far better, it's always a downer when I see what it all leads up to.
Some things are best left unfinished.

Okay but the real question is does the mask stay on in bed?

Same Verso calls her Alicia in her own ending. You're just arguing god knows what

nd Clea wants to take a steamy revenge shit on some Anon Babblefaggot's face.

Maelle is the sister Clea always wanted, shame she's stuck with Alicia.

Imagine being this fucking illiterate.

Go ahead and cite where they said that Verso's soul no longer painting equates to the painting getting destroyed.
If you're going to talk about the whole squad getting gomaged, then you're the illiterate one.

I wanna fuck her empty eyesocket so bad

I don't want to fuck her you freak, I want to adopt her.
But the answer is no

His motivation of not wanting to live an endless tortured existence watching Alicia decay and die before his eyes while she lived in a delusional state of pretending hes her brother instead of his own person?
We learn that motivation in both endings, its just Maelle fags are just as in denial as Maelle herself

While she's aware of it or while she's projecting her consciousness into a painting?

... would she feel it inside the painting or get a "surprise" when she's back?

I love her so much, it's unfair.