Netflix Devil May Cry and Baldur's Gate III are trying to push the idea that devils and demons aren't evil and are...

This might shock you but once upon a time Tieflings were just more then funny people with horns.

'm surprised that there aren't retard people arround feeling offended about this

There was when it first released

Fucking really?
Holy shit

Both of those see demons as what they really are. Not some absolutely evil force you have to get religious about but races of superior predators that the normal humans are mentally, physically and culturally incapable of resisting. They are the autists fighting against the psychopath menace. And it makes only sense that the psychopaths are able to sic the humans they manipulate against them too.

I think he thought the Tieflings were meant to be full on demons

Anon if you're still clinging to 22-year-old statblocks like they're the only canonical source on D&D out there, you have nothing to work with.

He's a brainlet that thinks tieflings are devils

It must be easy living in a head space where everything bad is someone else's fault and everything good is also someone else's fault but they use the same color as you.

The orcs were good actually

Demons dindu nuffin

The bugs were the victims

The cannibals deserved better

the aliens were right

Humanity was the real monster btw, even the babies.

What else did I miss?

And they were never demons, or devils, what's your point?
Did you bitch about Annah? She was CN. Oh who am I kidding you probably don't even know her.

the succubus is a born-again heckin wholesome chungus

the monsters just want to open a coffee shop and vibe

the aliens just want to have a dance party

Leftists and liberals just really like projecting non-whites onto fictional monsters and then calling you racist.

Zoomer Doom guy is stronger than god basically

Anon Babble

everything is soulless corpo trash

no creativity

no attention to detail

no meaningful world building and immersion

also Anon Babble

wtf there are red people? Hate em

wtf there are strange fantasy worlds and creative designs? Hate em

I project my socio-political insecurities on a developer's imagination despite them not knowing me at all? Unbelievable!

It's almost like only retards come here or something.

Devils in BG3 are 1000% evil and treated universally as scumbags.

creative designs

Where?

statblocks

I'm talking about the lore

Red people are cool, blue fucks deserve the rope though.

Can you name ten examples of each?

English motherfucker do you speak it?

Nice strawman you made in a fit of tard rage.

All Devils you meet in BG3 are evil as fuck. And no, Tieflings aren't Devils.

You now remember all the Anon Babble larper newfags seething when the game came out because their paladins fell since they immediately defaulted to murdering tieflings

Avowed comes to mind. There were creative world design elements throughout that game but it gets exclusively shit on by Anon Babble because there's a black character and vibrant colors.

inb4 tranny game liberal subhuman blah blah blah

Man, a lot of troons sure are shitting themselves in this thread over people pointing out the overabundance of "demons are actually good" in media lately.

Nice constructive replies to a perfectly coherent post and a demonstration of hypocrisy. It makes sense you wouldn't understand such complex ideas though.

I've seen screenshots of that game and the characters are fucking repulsive. Do you consider ugliness to be creative?

So you just enjoy smelling your own farts to feel smart, got it.

name 60

OP doing damage control

Tieflings aren't demons retard

Baldur's Gate III

both devils you interact with are assholes who try to fuck you over

This is the exact thing. You want creative? There it is. Oh, you don't like it? Too bad.
Creative to you must be a blonde hair blue eyed rail thin woman in a bikini holding a sword #52278994

Literally the new netflix DMC. And the Castlvania show tried to pull demons are actually more in depth then you thought. A lot of anime is doing so as well. And D&D with how its treating goblins and orcs now.

Tieflings aren't devils, they just got cursed to look like them because their great great grandpa made a deal with a devil or something.
Actual devils are depicted as evil in BG3.

Concession accepted. Better luck next time.

A lot of anime is doing so as well

Name them

with how its treating goblins and orcs now

I thought the topic was about demons?
Also name video game examples, this is Anon Babble after all

I'm not talking about tieflings, even though they still got demonic blood flowing through them.

Kill the elf

So? They're a malleable fantasy concept exactly the same as dragons, elves, dwarves, etc.

Just keep naming examples so I can mentally wear you down

Also those examples don't actually count

lmao, you troons always pull that shit.

Tieflings are not demons thoughever. All the demons in BG3 you meet either try to kill you on sight or manipulate you for their ends without any sympathetic qualities

I like aesthetically pleasing things and I do not consider deliberately making things ugly and disgusting to be creative. The only thing it suggests to me is that the people involved in creating these things are rotten and ugly on the inside.

half of you is a human (easily tempted by evil)

half of you is a demon (the literal embodiment of evil)

"hey don't worry about it, these guys are totally chill!"

who does this logic make sense to?

the demons in bg3 are indeed evil as fuck, none of them are the good guys. are you talking about the tieflings? most of them used to be humans but got fucked physically up by a hell invasion and turned into tieflings. they're not demons at all

The fuck are you talking about? Old anime is what started demons are cool/the most fuckable things ever. Now it's cool that demons are evil again? Guaranteed some Gooner thread is about to pop up glazing some demon whore.

You won't name them because they don't exist, you see one story that tries to pull the "demons are le good" and immediately come here to cry about how it's satanic propaganda that's being pushed to subvert expectations

Well "ugly" and "aesthetically pleasing" are subjective. Again, you don't have to like it. That doesn't mean it's not creative or even original.

Tieflings are not half-devils. They're like Draconic Sorcerers. Some distant ancestor a thousand years ago made a deal with a dragon and now their bloodline has scales and extra powers.

they don't exist because I'm just going to forget the previous examples you gave one minute ago

Thank you for proving how disingenuous your kind are and why its hopeless to talk to you. Get bent, I won. Conversation is over.

NTA but you gave a whopping two examples.
Truly an epidemic to shake the foundations of society.

if your ancestor made a deal with a demon so powerful it cursed your entire bloodline for generations, why is it not reasonable to assume that that would affect your ability to empathize with other people? power comes with a price. why would a demon otherwise grant power to a human being, just because giving humans red skin and horns is funny? tieflings wouldn't necessarily be as evil as an outright demon or devil, but they would logically have a psychotic streak about them relating to the kind of demon they share a bloodline with.

Frieren made me so happy while watching it. Even the cliche exam arc was full of fun moment-to-moment stuff. Many characters aren't exactly the most emotional, but it's a relief from the over-the-top bombastic nature of your average anime character. What a good show about down to earth values.

Same dude. I enjoying watching a comfy wizard adventure rather than shonen screaming or literal pornography.

Dante isn't really a good guy. He's selfish as fuck and likes hitting on women.

but he cares about his mom

Wow. Such an upstanding guy, he cares about his family? That's crazy.

In Firen demons aren't evil they're just intelligent predators. They don't have the capacity for good or evil.

stop actually knowing about the media posted. this thread is about manufactured outrage based on ignorance.
dick

Wrong. They lack the capacity for complex emotions like guilt which allows them to coexist with humans. They are very much have the capacity and generally are evil. Aura enjoys subjugating humans and Solitair loves to manipulate and emotionally torture her victims.

The victims are food for them. They're doing that to get their prey to let down their guard.
They're not emotionless, they constantly express shock and fear in the story.
Let a raptor talk and cast magic and it'd basically be the same

They're not emotionless, they constantly express shock and fear in the story.

No they lack complex emotions like guilt that would have allowed them to learn to be good and coexist with humans. They have basic ones like fear and understand human emotions but their lack of ability to feel things like guilt leads them to be and do evil things. There's an entire arc dedicated to this with the demon Macht.

Dante isn't really a good guy

Good anti-hero. Kills demons

likes hitting on women

Which is morally... neutral at worst.

Nanatsu no tazai/ 7 sins

Additionally. Demons do not even need to eat humans. They just do as they enjoy it. Frieren points this out multiple times. Their lack of guilt prevents them from abstaining. They are evil by nature.

Remember when you brain dead retards were saying years ago that god tier villains had to have better motives and were more agreeable than the heroes? Yeah, liberals took that very seriously, except their don't understand charisma, only pity. They want to feel bad for the villains.
Due to extended exposure to internet essays and propaganda, zoomers and millenials struggle to consume fiction as mere entertainment and instead forcefully interpret these works as political allegories where the "evil" beings are some sort of minority representation, which is why they feel the need for feel bad for them.

I think we're saying the same thing but are expressing it differently. The inability to experience guilt changes the context of their actions. It is impossible for them to not be selfish and we consider that an evil trait but the morality is absent from the reality.
They're not doing an evil act they are acting in their best interest. There's no malice behind it. No evil. Just acts as their nature intends

This anon is a smart cookie. Evil is really just a lack of guilt or empathy. If a race is genetically coded without guilt, empathy, or the other social instincts that allow for thriving ordered society, it is a moral imperative to wipe them out.

Their best interest would be to leave humans alone and subsist off of something else but their nature leads them to try and subjugate them. Evil can exist without evil. You can be evil by nature, like a demon.

Based Slayers

Frieren

executing demons in ISIS style videos

Are we pretending NuDoom lore wasn't fucking lame?

Baldur's Gate III

Devils/demons portrayed as anything but evil

Whut. Raphael may be a likable character, but he's still blatantly evil, cartoonishly so even.

inb4 "but the teiflings" as though they're the same thing

can demons look fucked up again?

The funny thing is the "aktually they are good" sentiment has existed for a long time, I have a boxed copy of Xcom Terror of the Deep, and it comes with this cool manual with lore about the world, and one part of it is fake article on how the aliens are just misunderstood and Xcom are a bunch of brutes.

Church bad

Demons good

*yawn*

fuck frieren
i can fix aura

I can fix Aura

you'll see, freezy pop