I am so confused by the fact that this has sold so incredibly well...

I am so confused by the fact that this has sold so incredibly well. Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game, on top of Bethesda's reputation being in the trash thanks to Starfield, so you'd think people would be hesitant to buy it. Instead a game that they shadowdropped with no fanfare becomes one of their best selling games ever. Is that really all it takes, that people are so starved for a new TES that they'll go nuts over a remaster like this?

This is also making me realize that those people who try to be soothsayers and claim "Well this particular game may have been a success, but the next one will be a failure because the players who bought the game feel betrayed or something and won't buy the next one." don't actually know shit. You know what I'm talking about. There is clearly no way to actually predict these things and people just like to use that to act superior because by the time their prediction is proven wrong, they're long gone. There is no risk to the prediction, they get to feel good about themselves with no stakes.

HELLO? IS THIS THING ON?

"WE HAVE 6 BILLIONS PLAYERS!!!"

available for free on gamepass

Oblivion was hated because the original was nearly unplayable. The Remastered actually feels good to play and doesn't completely burn my eyes despite being UE5 slop.

Oblivion was always the most loved TES if you arent a faggot

We get it bro youre contrarian and so epic highly refined

That cope doesn't work here because for once the playercount on steam is genuinely ridiculously high

nigger even modded to hell skyrim is starting to show it's age, the coomer community needed something new to work on and here it is. I only bought this to mod it, haven't even played more than 20 min of it, games sucks as is.

easily breaks ~200k players on Steam despite being on Gamepass

has instantly erased all bad feelings toward Bethesda

Oblivion Creation Club ™ coming soon

He won and you fags lost, it's over

200k is not that high, monster hunter wilds had 1.2m players, six times as much.

Monster Hunter Wilds is also not a remaster of a 20 year old game

and it's an online game that isn't on gamepass

It's time to accept it, Todd has won and Anon Babble has lost

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

wrong.

He should fucking fix starfield.

You should stop being poor and buy an actual good computer.

In recent years the wider RPG playerbase has become much more open to seeing its shortcomings as charm. Most people I know who bought the remake haven't played or even heard of Oblivion before.

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

maybe it is a good time to start realizing that Anon Babble Anon Babble rpgcodex and some other vidya sites full of 35+ yo angry and bitter loses are nothing more than a echo chamber and that whatever the consensus in those places is doesn't represent the average normalfag opinion. Oblivion with all its faults was always a loved game and a lot more popular than morrowind among mainstream players.

bethesda and TES are beloved by millions, you conceited Anon Babbleirgin. only dumbass streamers and troglodytic 4chinners think bethesda has a bad reputation

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

Stopped reading there, TES1 and 2 are the most "hated".

What the fuck is with this delusional campaign obsiditroons have been trying where they just state something and expect everyone to accept it as fact? In what world did everyone hate oblivion? Then when you dispute this wildly delusional and wrong statement, they just screech "zoomer" at you.

people are so starved for a new TES that they'll go nuts over a remaster like this?

Yes

Its blowing up because unless they do a similar remaster of Morrowind or Fallout 3, this will basically be the last Bethesda open world rpg ever. We already know TES6 and anything after will be garbage / not an rpg.

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

a game that they shadowdropped with no fanfare becomes one of their best selling games ever

why bother making a thread just to disagree with yourself? not reading the rest of that shit

original was nearly unplayable

drama queen faggot

that's funny because it actually gives me a headache to look at due to the lumen and temporal ghosting

ageing faggot realizes screeching like an autistic pig on his dying imageboard has no influence on the purchasing habits of normals

geg Anon Babble lost again (an increasingly common occurrence)

It was always shit just modern wrpgs are shittier

Nobody likes Arena outside of curiosity, but Daggerfall does have some players because you can do an insane amount of things in it and it really represents TES at its purest fantasy life-sim roots before they started to shift to a more linear experience with Morrowind onwards

Third worlders.

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

We're just going to straight up lie now huh

If Arena hadn't been popular there wouldn't even be a rest of the Elder Scrolls series. What it did was incredible for its time

In its time Oblivion was seen as a huge step back from Morrowind. Skyrim became the most popular partly because it was designed in a way to have the most mainstream appeal, but even long time fans loved it because it was such an improvement over Oblivion, even if still not quite at the level of Morrowind. The only people who like Oblivion the best are people who started with Oblivion and have nostalgia for it, but true Elder Scrolls fans started with Morrowind and have no trouble seeing Oblivion's many flaws.

I'm honestly confused about remasters in general.

I have no "skin in the game", I don't like these games. I've tried Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim when they were new and didn't like them at all.

A game is taken, and then another company like fucks around with the aesthetics so it looks different, and changes the mechanics and little bit (in this case Virtuous Ltd in Singapore) and people eat it up.

Now I'm seeing people shit on the original. Like, I mean yeah? It's always looked like shit? Is this new look that just looks like everything else with tranny character creation better?

I see a remaster announced these days and I just feel sorry for fans but maybe I shouldn't, people love it.

but even long time fans loved it because it was such an improvement over Oblivion

you mean like 500 people? we all know very well like 90% of the current TES fanbase only got in the franchise after Skyrim got relased and was a massive hit. Even those who pretend to be hardcore Morrowind fans started with skyrim ot at least got to know the series because of it

500 people

Sure skyrim blew it the fuck up but you underestimate how popular oblivion was with xbox360 dudebros

I am not trashing it, I'm just speaking from a current year perspective
There's no real point in playing it because Daggerfall improved on everything in it

did they fix the level scaling?

Not really, but you get perfect levelups automatically so you'll still get stronger with time. But you'll still get bandits in full glass armor.

I just don't think it's fair to call it hated because no one hates it, it's always been a well respected title. I genuinely think Oblivion is the only one people have actively expressed "hate" for

I don't remember anyone hating Oblivion, Skyrim was the one everyone shit on.

I feel like all of you are too young to remember how Morrowind was huge on the original Xbox, in fact most people don't know how big the Xbox was because they all grew up with the 360. Microsoft was doing great for two straight gens and then they fumbled it with XB1.
Is anyone here besides me even old enough to have watched the kino Toonami Morrowind review when it originally aired?
youtube.com/watch?v=7qqpB6uq8X0

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

This was never the case. I don't know what narrative you're trying to craft here.

i dont mind the bandits in full glass
i do mind having to avoid doing certain quests because the reward is shit if you do it at level 5, but is the best item in the game at level 30

Oblivion was hated because of this , the horrendous level scaling system that punished you for leveling the wrong skills and made it easy to get softlocked. Skyrim didn't have that so it was better.

I am so confused by the fact that this has sold so incredibly well.

That's because you have never played an RPG.

how Morrowind was huge on the original Xbox

Ah yeah, the console that sold 20 million and was outclassed by PS2
Morrowind got way bigger after skyrim. Today Elder Scrolls could compare in popularity with GTA series. Back then Morrowind was a total "who? what?" compared to Vice City

Game was literally made by a porting company with experience

Bethesda

i do mind having to avoid doing certain quests because the reward is shit if you do it at level 5, but is the best item in the game at level 30

That's also something that still happens, yes. There are already mods to unlevel quest rewards if you want to avoid it.

>original was nearly unplayable

drama queen faggot

the game was notorious for not even booting unless your gpu supported pixel shader 2.0. in a way it was a starfield of its time.

Oblivion was acclaimed and massively popular, that is revisionism. It slipped into awkward middle child status for several very logical reasons by no fault of its own
Skyrim just delivered the consolized action RPG experience in a more polished way so Oblivion was rendered redundant to most of its former players once that came out. Another key factor for that was Skyrim being easier to mod and more stable running with them
Morrowind was a fundamentally different game than both of them and was never replaced by anything so it maintained a cult playerbase
It was chosen for a remaster precisely because Bethesda knew lots of people wanted to play it but didn't really have any reason to

Oblivion was disliked by Marrowindfags, which is understandable, but time ended up looking favorably on oblivion. Despite the fact it was a heavily flawed shit show of a game with retcons, a whacko story, and bugs out the ass, it had just enough pieces and things for the player to do to be construed as fun. There are more videos on zany Oblivion moments than there are any other Bethesda game, and people look upon that shit fondly.

Most hated elder scrolls

According to who? That shit was always their best entry in the series imo.

it's impossible to get softlocked in oblivion due to the difficulty slider. I agree that it's shit design but softlock is the completely wrong word to use here.

YEAH BUT SNOY

You retards are so fucking consolewar brained you cannot fucking comprehend a game selling well amongst people that like that specific genre without comparing it to something that has no fucking relevance because HURR BIG NUMBER

People like classic fantasy RPG games. So a big name fantasy RPG game comes out people love it.
People hated the modern fantasy Dragon age and Obsidian shit game I forget the name of because they are not like Lord of the Rings.

The mod that removes the shitty level scaling is already out, as is the mod that fixes the shitty forced lumen (RTX garbage) and difficulty slider.

That in itself makes the game 99% more playable.
Now we just need mods to unpozz the models/outfits and we're golden.

I do agree with OP though that this remaster, as was released, was borderline unplayable. I cannot imagine how retarded these stupid normies have to be to suffer through the most braindead, spongy combat and shitty looting ever because 'uuuuh it was like this in the original too'.

but time ended up looking favorably on oblivion

No it didn't, the crowd that liked Oblivion moved to Skyrim as it offered what Oblivion offered in comparison to Morrowind but more and better.
So Morrowind retained its fans, Skyrim became the most popular, and Oblivion remained as a game with RPG systems worse than Morrowind and action and visuals worse than Skyrim.

Now there's sa lot people that have fond memories of Oblivion because they played it when they were 12, but only a very small crowd of players still played it.

Oblivion was a big success when it came out, but it aged poorly as Skyrim made it obsolete.

If you are talking about the difficulty mod that got relased the first day, it is dogshit. It makes the game on highest difficulty be easier than medium difficulty in the unmodded game

No it didn't

Then why are people going bananas for it now?

Mainline TES game drought, people being curious about it now that it doesn't look like hot shit, and

there's sa lot people that have fond memories of Oblivion because they played it when they were 12

Oblivion's not like LotR either. It doesn't even have any dwarves. How can it be like Lord of the Rings if it doesn't have dwarves?

Not tazing you, but I never understood this. I mean, I understand the feeling of absurdity in seeing bandits scale up with you and wear glass armor, sure. The alternative seems worse though? just go around oneshotting everything, taking hardly any damage? isn't the game boring at that point? I always liked everything scaling with me, and just having more ways to deal with it.

Most of the audience is people who have only played Skyrim, tried Oblivion for 2 hours and shut it off cause it sucked, but now like the game because it has a shitty UE5 graphics wrapper. Don't read deeper into it, because that's all it is.

It's better than the original to an acceptable level, just dont make acrobatics, athletics and mercantile major skills and you'll be fine

Yeah I can see how you'd enjoy a lot of things being how you're completely retarded.

Okay Elder Scrolls experts. Explain to me why the other two games are named after the region they take place in but this one isn't called "The Elder Scrolls IV: Cyrodiil"

If you only compare games to Monster Hunter then even Elden Ring would be considered a flop and surely you don't believe that?

It's named after the Oblivion Gate crisis, a major event that takes place all over the continent. It just so happens that you solve the problem in Cyrodil.

you should make mercantile your major skill because the game is pay to win with the skill trainers.

There was no attack in there, huh. I guess sorry about your thin skin, anon.
Although, it is deep lore that you like enemies dealing no damage if you're so easily hurt. Jokes included, sorry though.

Why is it that in film, music, animation, etc things can be flawed, stylised, and technologically backwards but vidyafags literally cannot comprehend this without chalking it up to nostalgia

I even saw OG Oblivion defenders use terms like "so bad it's good" in regards to things like the potato faces. The goofy faces were just plain good, they were expressive and interesting/entertaining to look at

Those retards are why every NPC in Bethesda games looks the same in Fallout 3 onwards

Because Oblivion has an IV in it that they could use for a cool effect on the menu.

whoa dude, you're just finding out today that people like things that you don't like?

some people such as myself have fond memories of playing this game despite any of the thousands of issues you have for not liking it
i'm not saying your complaints aren't valid, just that for a lot of people they aren't necessarily salient or relevant
i personally have memories of a lot of kids enjoying the game when it came out, but I did have some friends who preferred Morrowind

But is there any logical explanation why they break the naming convention established by the series for this game, and only this game?

it levels up all the same, but the levelling curve will skew out of your favor with merc contributing too much to level ups. Probably fine as long as you also dont have acrobatics on there

I even saw OG Oblivion defenders use terms like "so bad it's good" in regards to things like the potato faces. The goofy faces were just plain good, they were expressive and interesting/entertaining to look at

The faces in Oblivion were so fucking bad that ever since the game came out "Oblivion character" has been synonimous with terrible face design. Shut up nigger.

That's not the alternative, Oblivion-kun. The alternative is designing the game like

bandit hideouts/animal dens - low level challenges and low level rewards

marauder forts/necromancer caves - medium level challenges and medium rewards

ayleid ruins/oblivion gates - high level challenges and high level rewards

Then, you shake things up a bit, making some dungeons harder or more surprising/unique, but keep the ideas/enemies overall consistent. And make it so the further you get from cities, the more dangerous the world is.

Retard. Oblivion was huge. Off course it's gonna sell well.

The first one was called Arena

People don't know that, they see it has elves and the marketing takes itself seriously and is not quirky or strange and it has elves. So they assume it will have dwarves somewhere, buy it, and play, now and then they wonder where the dwarves are but never for long enough that it matters.
Such is the life of the normie.

i have a feeling it's nostalgic people playing the game not so many newcomers

the first game is called elder scrolls arena though. and daggerfall is set in hammerfell. it was morrowind that was the odd one of the bunch and oblivion just course corrected.

And it takes place inside the arena

In its time Oblivion was seen as a huge step back from Morrowind.

Yeah, in the same way Skyrim was seen as a step back from Oblivion, yet it still became the biggest TES game by far.

Why do the devs fully model older woman bodies? I doubt anyone wants to sit down and model some 50+ year old woman’s saggy ass

Imagine all the time, effort, and resources Bethesda have pumped into fucking their fans over intending to get more profit (and failing). Then, Bethesda just lets some other studio do a remake and they're rolling in more money than they ever have

lmao

I do. Please give me a job in which I can do this.

This doesn't matter, most people dont know this and thinks Bethesda made it, in the eyes of the public as a whole, Bethesda will get all the credit

and part of skyrim takes place in morrowind

Anon... for a good chunk of the people playing the remaster this is the first time they have played an elder scrolls game.
Perhaps the first time they played a Bethesda game.

The naming convention was broken with Arena or more accurately, it never started in the first place.

???
Which part?

visually interesting

entertaining to look at

memorable

clearly brought lots of people enjoyment

do you also bitch about the Simpsons not looking like Gears of War space marines? you fucking retard parrots are why everything looks like bland shit now
exactly what my post was about and you were to stupid to even understand it

Yeah, I think that works well, and is more... realistic, immersive, whatever. Although I then would also like the option of random encounters which can potentially be challenging at any level, some high level daedra appearing for some reason in the woods or something. As well as sure, some guy in rags desperately trying to shank you for skooma money when you're walking around in daedric armor. Like the equivalent of a small rabid dog trying to bite you.
I think it comes down to the idea of a world that is alive and not solely revolving around me, but also a danger/challenge and unexpected things could be around every corner.

you level super fast in the remaster anyway because every skill contributes towards leveling instead of just major skills. might as well make mercantile major so it goes up faster so you have more money to blow on trainers, not to mention to have the ability to get the best sell value out if the increasingly higher tier loot.

One entire DLC is set inside Morrowind, Anon.

The fact that the remaster seems to be much more successful than the original Oblivion seems to prove the point that the goofy models were pushing a lot of people away and most people enjoy Oblivion more when they can take it seriously, which the remaster allows them to do.

There was no need to make it this detailed the fuck
Why would you want to model old hags all day?

Solstheim

Solstheim is rightful Skyrim clay.

Because it's the best remaster since probably Halo MCC. Remade graphics hit remastered gameplay and mechanics. Not a typical remaster which is just the same OG game at a higher resolution like skyrim special edition and not a remake which usually never fully represent the original vision of the game. It's the best of both. Granted MCC had a few issues with the versions of the games they used but overall it was excellent with how you could switch back and forth between new and old. You don't need that for oblivion but the updated graphics make the game so much more pleasurable. Even small things like the indoor reverb of characters speaking when the original was some mono hollow audio makes a night and day difference.

Everything you can think, of, there's always someone out there who finds it sexy.

I was there 3000 years ago when if you could get your 360 to work then you played oblivion and you were pleased to have a game that was actually immersive and not 5 hours long and offline. If you're an old fuck like me you can recall the gaming environment in which it was released, a landscape of games that could be completed in one or two sittings, and were being instantly sold into a thriving used game market in order to get credit toward the next newer game. That is unless you didn't just rent a game for the short time it took to beat them. Games like oblivion were not really rentable or playschool easy so most normies dropped it for Madden or FIFA or beige 3rd person shooters. It was not reviled, it was just not for everyone. The context of its release is important

sorry nordcuck, your whole 'province' is going to be thalmor property in the 5th era

Now I know you're just parroting shit out of your ass, the faces in the remaster are uncanny as hell and were clearly intentional done that way since they brought back the insane character creation menu from the original instead of copying Skyrim or F4's

or the global demographics have changed and you now have 1 billion indians that play any dogshit slop on gamepass.

contrarian

The new buzzword to shield all manufactured corporate slop trends from criticism

Is Virtuous just going to be the remaster/remake dev now? They've done MGS3 and Oblivion without assraping the games like Bluepoint.

There's a Fantastic 4 video game?

Fallout 3 next according to that legal filing leak. So yeah, Virtuous is just a remaster studio now.

complains about "new" buzzwords

uses the word slop which is a much newer buzzword than contrarian

I was in highschool when Oblivion released and everyone I knew bought it for xbox. I didn't play it until a decade later when I finally got a good enough PC to run it.

LOL who the fuck is writing these bait posts? It’s complete nonsense every time. They always do the exact same formula. They say people in the past didn’t enjoy the game, then they say too many people are buying it now, finally they say the game is bad without saying what they don’t like about it. I’ve no joke seen at least 15 threads like this in the past 12 hours. I’m losing it.

Yeah but Microsoft will inevitably buy them because they're working on multiple Bethesda remakes

Fuck I was finally gonna play Fallout 3 this year, I don't want to have to wait for a fucking remaster which my computer probably can't even run anyway. Why do they have to keep remastering shit?

ahh Anon Babble, you contrarian niggers never change

What race and build are you guys running? I went Breton battlemage. Feels good to be back in Cyrodiil

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

So this is the new engagement bait? Eat shit, morrowfag

Why do they have to keep remastering shit?

Because people keep buying it.
If it makes you feel any better Fallout 3 was updated a few years ago and runs pretty well on modern systems. You can just go play it if you want.

When Anon Babble was down people on desuarchive were plotting how they were gonna shit on the Oblivion remaster. The weirdest thing was even there none of them explained what they disliked about it, they just kept announcing their excitement to shit on it when Anon Babble came back. It really gave me a lot of insight into how these people function.

oblivion built a new audience from almost nothing. hardly even Morrowind's fans mattered. There were a whole generation of kids that had never played any western-made RPGs at all that started at Oblivion. If you go back and look at all time best RPG lists in the early 2000s there would be literally nothing western on it beyond maybe Diablo. Fallout, Baldur's Gate, etc would not even get a mention. Normalfags had absolutely no idea. On the internet the opinions of RPG Codex types that came from CRPGs and have proliferated for 20 years, but at the time they were an infinitesimal percentage of the people playing Oblivion, almost all children that got a 360 as their first console and hopped up on the LotR movies.

Damn, people really fucking hate what they can't have, huh? The Oblivion Remaster adds a piss filter, desaturates the entire game even the textures, and turns nearly every NPC into an uncanny UE5 skinwalker. Bluepoint's DeS is more faithful to the original game than this Oblivion travesty is.

Feels weird and unreal to think the person who modeled it may have volunteered and been eager to because he was attracted to old hags as is

If you dislike Oblivion I'm sorry to tell you but you have no soul

Better yet, they work in their rooms where nobody is bothering them, so he could have been modeling hags with one hand with his dick in the other.

That's a screenshot of Fable 2

Both of these games were supposed to be out years ago oblivion remaster in 2022 and fallout in 2024. Probably to coincide with the rumoured (and I guess cancelled) elder scrolls tv show and fallout 3 remaster to align with the fallout show from last year. Same reason why Sony keeps re releasing the same TLOU shit over and over because of the TV show and cross media stuff.

Sure, that can easily be a part of the system. You have to be a little more mindful of overworld encounters though. Turn down the NPC's aggro range, for instance. Morrowind did something clever where Red Mountain had the most dangerous overworld enemies in the game, but they were literally fenced in, and you could see them before you entered, which let you assess the threat and decide if you thought you could handle it.

Yeah, definitely. That's also how I tend to mod tes/open world games to be. And yeah, as usual, morrowind was elegant about its ways.
Haven't played it in 20 years or something, I wonder how it and the modding community for is nowadays.

lol

It's strange honestly, my first elder scrolls game was morrowind but honestly there were so many fun RPG's floating about at the time, Neverwinter nights, Balders gate, The old republic 2. When Oblivion came out it felt like morrowind with better graphics and combat at the time.
I remember thinking that Morrowind felt like a bigger world, but that was likely the lack of fast travel. Other than that I and pretty much everyone else I knew, who had all played morrowind moved onto enjoying Oblivion. The perspective of Anon Babble or RPG Codex is genuinely utterly divorced from anything anyone I knew talked about. What people talk about in relations to games is very different now then it was back then.

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

Hated by who? It sold dozens of millions of copies and had reviewed extremely well. Are you actually stupid enough to think the small gaming forum bubble you lived in in 2006 represented reality when the internet wasn't really widespread?
Do you also think that Fallout 3 is hated and everyone thinks New Vegas is better?

Unfortunately video games are more than walking around taking pictures at sunset like a woman

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

Since fucking when? Morowind and the old school games were the ones without pretty much 100% universal praise.

I refuse to believe that there’s people who would rather make old bitches instead of hot young women and people out there not repulsed having to make detailed roastie/granny models

they removed most of the exploits in oblivion remaster...it actually makes you play the game

People will make an argument on 4channel that 50 people see at most and assume that the entire world now agrees with them.
It's crazy.

people are THIS desperate for a new Elder Scrolls. Pathetic how bethesda actually thought they could sell us Starfield, in so delaying the next TES for more 3 years

Go far enough down this road and you'll find yourself saying that everyone loves Bioshock Infinite and only a vocal minority on Anon Babble dislike it. Are you sure you wanna do that?

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

Literally only Morroboomers say this (they hate Skyrim too btw)

these people

Why is it so unbelievable to you that some people think the remaster is garbage? That it completely hollowed out the soul, vibrancy, and flawed beauty of the original and turned it into any other modern UE5 shitstained piss filter trash. Why does this opinion bother you so much, to the point that you have to make up a boogeyman in your head in order to shield your conscience from all dissonance and justify your FOTM videogame trend chasing? Maybe you enjoy the remaster, that’s great, but there are perfectly valid criticisms. Within 5 years third world marketing will have such a stranglehold on every corner of the internet that any criticism of “latest viral videogame trend” will be instantly removed by AI. You faggots literally sound like corporate plants

desperate for a new Elder Scrolls

Yes. Death to ESO. Death to Fallout. Death to Starfield. I'm so FUCKING SICK OF WAITING FOR A PROPER ELDER SCROLLS, TODD

Well.
TES 6 is going to sell like hotcakes now.
Anon Babble will always loose and Todd will always win.
what a grim fate.

Yes Elder Scrolls was gonna flop because Skyrim was also hated right?

They ensured es6 will sell well now

loose

Room temp iq spotted. Probably Indian

I want nude mods for oblivion remaster

If you go back and look at all time best RPG lists in the early 2000s there would be literally nothing western on it beyond maybe Diablo.

Nah, Bioware was huge back then and seen at almost the same level as Blizzard. The reason Mass Effect got so big was because of their reputation from BG, Neverwinter Knights, and KotoR driving massive pre-order sales.

I think the issue is you're a dumb zoomer.

I feel like the normalfag's perspective of that time has been lost, like there were TONS of people that had only played JRPGs that had absolutely zero consciousness of western RPGs of any kind, on PC or anywhere. People now would be like sure Fallout and Baldur's Gate, great late '90s CRPGs. Baldur's Gate was enough of a brand name to help BG3 explode like it did. But in the early 2000s PC history had completely vanished from normalfag consciousness. Like, hardly anyone knew that Bioshock was a completely transparent copy of System Shock 2, no one knew the first thing about that game. There are tons of contemporary Bioshock 10/10 reviews that are obviously by professional game reviewers that have never heard of SS2. It was that marginal.

If it makes you feel better, Fallout has been dead almost as long as Elder Scrolls.

what a grim fate

Its not a grim fate because I win too

I thought Bioshock was a spiritual successor by some of the same devs. That's like saying Dark Souls is a copy of Demon's Souls. Like yeah, that's the point

I will buy the elder scrolls 6 if it's super racist

Ironic that Revenge of the Sith is in cinemas now and it's the most successful re-release in history.
Boomer internet bubble from then would tell you this movie was hated too

fuck the lesser races of tamrial

Most people who shit on Oblivion have never played it either.
it was the first elder scrolls game I played so it has a special place in my heart, even though it's a buggy pile of shit... It's MY buggy pile of shit.

TES6 will be set in Hammerfell, so it will be racist. But only towards the 'am sandwich people.

raised by prequel DVDs and a 360, the childless flyover amerifat millennial now rules the internet

This seems like moving the goalposts.
Oblivion got a lot of hate from RPG codex type purists and autists which was a lot more vocal than hate for Bioshock infinite. But it was still just niche internet thing. That didn't get a lot of vocal hate, but I think people mostly agreed it was worse than the original

Maybe YOUR video games are.

I really like how racist the entire seiese is. I just hope microcock doest interfere

I mean they named it shock, they would have agreed if you asked. but you can read those reviews yourself and see there is zero awareness or mention of SS2

I think it will unintentionally make the redguards look like shit from a moral perspective. The Thalmor will likely be cool because Bethesda are trying to make them Nazi elves

this quest is kino

male/female

This is genocide.

Is there a giant one that makes all of the rules

Yea we have to kill ourselves xD

But does it still have the all weapons are enchanted weapons glitch? I have never had a bug lose me more time in a game then that bug. Beyond fucking annoying and I will forever forgetti.

It's always been great and way fucking better than Skyrim

jesus…if you posted this on any other thread I wouldn’t be able to tell what game it is…truly truly why the fuck did they destroy the iconic art style?

based

it looks a lot better on higher graphics but i have the ray tracing turned off for more fps

it looks like Oblivion retard

ironic posting

kek, brings me back. Though to be fair, that movie was enjoyed, but not respected. I almost always saw it played for laughs, and enjoyed it that well myself.

Oblivion was the one that needed a remaster the most, it was skuffy

Eeeeeeeh...

>pick body type 2

All NPCs immediately assume my pronouns

They can't keep getting away with this
Almost all bugs and glitches are still present. Main ones that were fixed was the drop dupe and the paint brush

PEOPLE LIKE A VIDEO GAME THAT I DON'T

AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

c'mon

oblivion was "hated" because morrowfags seethe about every game that isn't morrowind

Hey does anyone have a good mod guide for TES4 game of the year edition? I refuse to pay for it again, but now I want to play it all over again.

lol

PEOPLE CRITICIZING MY LATEST VIRAL VIDEO GAME CIRCLEJERK

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

faggot

lol

Damn, people really fucking hate what they can't have, huh?

Very true. Jealousy in this age has gone insane. Gone are they days of the thought of "I could do better" All a shame really.

thankfully there already mods to remove quest rewards scaling down

It's a lot like the Demons Souls remaster. Some people like it because shiny graphics = better, but for the rest of the sane people we prefer to play the old version with the iconic art style.

Naw it was because of the state of release. It was beyond fucking broken day 0. I personally lost 150 hours of gameplay because of a certain glitch.

Uh, alright, I mean yeah, go ahead and enjoy your desaturated gray UE5 default shader trash, it's your choice

Naw, you’re retarded and gay.
Morrowind>Oblivion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Daggerfall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shitrim.

What does it matter that its viral? I'll still be playing this remaster years from now. I'm an Elder Scrolls fan. Its nice to have something that isn't another version of Skyrim. Its a great excuse to revisit Oblivion.

lol

You didn't think to make save backups on a game you played 150 hours of? Every game I play I'm always making backups so I only lose a few hours at most if something goes wrong. Which hasn't happened to me yet, but it's good to be prepared.

latest

Thread OP specifically references the original game, RETARD
it's the SECOND SENTENCE NIGGER pay attention

Yes. The Elder Scrolls is still my favorite series in all gaming, and Oblivion was the first game I played in the series. All I want is for 10-20 more games almost identical to either Oblivion or Skyrim.

you literally type like a third word marketer

morrowcuck is filtered by daggerfall

typical

Answer the question Pablo. Are you just a butt hurt hipster that's compelled to hate a game because it "went viral"?

I was an adult when Oblivion came out and already terminally online. Here's what people actually thought about it.
It was praised for being extremely realistic. Radiant AI was nothing short of revolutionary and people thought it would set a trend for all games to follow.
The graphics were incredible. It's easy to look back on the potato faces and laugh, but at the time the game was beautiful. The environments were lush and there was grass everywhere.
The biggest complaint was the level scaling, which was almost immediately modded out of the game.
Very few people hated Oblivion, even Morrowind diehards mostly loved it.
After nearly 20 years of retrospect we can look back and see the game as a mess, but at the time, it was the killer app selling 360s.

maybe it is a good time to start realizing that

... that Gamers are COMPLETE fucking retards.

DLCs - SUCCESS

Microtransactions - SUCCESS

Subsription services - SUCCESS

Remasters - SUCCESS

Remakes - SUCCESS

Physical copies of the game - HISTORY

Game ownership - CAN BE REVOKED WITHOUT A PRIOR NOTICE

Invasive anticheats - NOBODY CARES

Invasive DRM - NOBODY CARES

Bugs - NOBODY CARES

Best consumer group.

Oblivion used AI? In 2006? Before it was even a thing.

Retard

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game, on top of Bethesda's reputation being in the trash thanks to Starfield

What's to be confused about? You're a retard that believes in spooks.

1956, but technically a much older concept historically :^)

Most retarded post I've read this decade
Holy shit kill yourself you are wasting air

Didn't Oblivion give Japan a massive inferiority complex which ultimately lead to games like Demon Souls and Dark Souls getting funded?

Im compelled to hate the massive success that a remaster of one of my favorite childhood games got which destroys its soul, vibe, and uniqueness to turn it into something that looks and sounds like 90% of all AAA garbage released in the last 5 years

Too bad that now the remaster is out you can never play the original again.

Zoomlets didn't play the original and are buying in on the hype now that it's newslop hype
Just like how I bought FF7 despite not playing the original and now I'm basedfacing the entire game

Ironic because your picture happened to me first time I tried to play Dark Souls

hate to tell you but that version of """FF7""" has very little to do with the original

that looks and sounds like 90% of all AAA garbage released in the last 5 years

What games? Because it looks and sounds like Oblivion to me.

The whole FF7 remake is weird as fuck because they intentionally changed the story which would piss off people who played the original, but people who haven't played the original are just gonna be confused by all the time ghosts and shit. So it's like it's made for people who are just going to be mad by its existence.

So what are the go-to settings to adjust? Running it at 1440p with everything at ultra except view distance, textures, and shadows which i have set to high, the RT is "off" but I have that set to high since you can't fully turn it off anyway and I have the framerate DLSS boost and framegen set to balanced.

Im almost entirely sure that todd knew the game was in absolute JUSTed state. I think the shadowdrop was a way to get people to rush and consoom while not letting any previews or anything hit the market beforehand allowing them to save hundreds of millions of dollars on marketing. a couple days of "never ever happening" hype gets built up, with some fomo for a game that is fondly remembered by a L O T of people. regardless whether (you) wanna believe it or not. Oblivion has had very stable cultural reference 20 years after its release. Skyrim has tongue in cheek

arrow to the knee

muh sweetroll

you will buy skyrim a 9th time

and is cemented as a coomer game. With TES VI building a slow tension for the last few years, this was a really good relief valve and build even more hype for VI after the last 3/4 games from them have been nothing but mediocre at best with none of the charm. A substantial portion of people that bought this game have ONLY ever played skyrim. So this practically is a brand new elder scrolls for them.
It almost worked on me but i was smart enough not to fall for his sweet, untrustworthy promises and just ended up pirating it for a few days before uninstalling. Im glad i didnt because being someone who desperately wants to consume product and get ready for next product, musclefucking UE5 onto it with staples made out of nothing but hope, and then NOT offering official mod support was a fucking insane decision.

I am so confused

I'm soooo not confused. Oblivion and Skyrim has always been a bottom of the barrel games for the horde of basedfacing bottom-feeders that considers gaming their hobby.
The only reason I'm paying attention to it is potential drama and Anon Babble is seriously disappointing in that regard.

Why even ask this question without posting your specs? Crank everything to ultra. That's the best settings.

bro I started with Oblivion, as did many others.

Whatever just keep the waifus coming and the mini game slop vibing.
Yuffie joining was hype as fuck I'm enjoying everything about this game and having FUN

Oblivion was xbox 'tards first RPG. It's a dumbed down morrowind/daggerfall. The oblivion gates are a gimmick and the main story is weak. They only good addon was shimmering isles.

Nothing to say of horse armor and nickel and diming customers.

There are a lot of retards who don't know the difference between Bethesda Games Studios and Bethesda Softworks

The horse armor is free in this one though so they learned their lesson.

...They have cars in Skyrim now?

There's exclusive horse armours in the deluxe edition

i played morrowind when it came out. i played oblivion when it came out.

i didn't like one better than the other. i disliked the objective markers and level scaling of oblivion, but i didn't consider it a worse game than morrowind. just different.

funnily, lots of daggerfall fans were complaining about morrowind when it came out for dumbing down many things. they were the "old" men back then to those of use around for morrowind's release.

Where've you been Anon, there are entire modern area mods for Skyrim

youtube.com/watch?v=M9p8QDE78eg

turns nearly every NPC into an uncanny UE5 skinwalker.

As opposed to the beautiful people of original Oblivion?

They made a deluxe edition for a remaster? Holy fuck

Oblivion's graphics were great when they came out, but they're just generic woodlands. Maybe an Ayleid ruin is among the trees. It's boring, so when games like KCD or RDR2 come out, Cyrodiil's rocks and trees gets less and less interesting.

shhhhh we don't talk about how shitty Oblivion used to look

It's a dumbed down morrowind/daggerfall.

If daggerfal was the game that made everyone look towards the future thinking of all the amazing possibilities that the video-game medium could offer, then Oblivion was the reality check illustrating that the medium has fuckall to offer after all.

the remaster looks better than the og in every way

implying this didnt make you pratically cum yourself seeing it for the first time in 2006

youtube.com/watch?v=-NMnVx34pT4

Yes. Has exclusive quests, too. Can't have the true 2006 experience without some DLC bullshitery

I'm getting tranny gooner vibes from this pic

I'm glad Bethesda is cool about not having DRM so it's all free anyway. Almost makes me want to buy the game in appreciation. But then I remember I would be supporting this DLC crap.

stay out of the tranny gooner discords then

Slightly better graphic fidelity in some areas. It has no identity though, and looks like every other UE5 slop on the market.

O'Really...What could possibly give it away?

and turns nearly every NPC into an uncanny UE5 skinwalker

Such a shame, because they clearly tried to stick close to the concept art but this game can’t shake that weird look everything on this engine has.
I’ve never wanted a game more than one that looked like the class portraits, and we came so close yet far here.

I often click on these threads by accident, read some posts and remember that I neither like TES games nor the people who play them.

Valga got turned into a kind hearted gilf

Tell me about it. Oblivion remade in an old fantasy illustration style would enhance it tenfold. It's not some impossible feat, just no one does it because "realism = good graphics."

It was nasty in the fact that I didn't know it was occurring until a certain point in the game. When trying to reload any previous save, the glitch would immediately pop up. So basically all my save files right from the get go were screwed.

The strange proportions
It's like blud has never had sex

You notice that but you don't notice the bulging penis? Alright.

She looks better on the left. The older women are too wrinkly in the remaster.

love that internal demon-fire shining through the skin on the original

MonHun also has the benefit of being popular with the Chinese for some time now.

Oblivion NPC is a very popular meme so people bought the game from which it originates. This is what motivates consumer decisions.

Doesn't look like a knob to me lad
However it is a well known fact that all trannards goon

youtube.com/watch?v=aecPOSsdcs0

the skingrad count looks great

. The only people who like Oblivion the best are people who started with Oblivion and have nostalgia for it,

100%, but those people outnumber those of us who started with Morrowind or earlier games 10:1.

Yet some people even on this board expected the game to be Elden Ring quality or something instead of it being just a bunch of autists in a deranged broken world from 2006.
I guess they thought the memes weren't accurate.

Todd is likely going to get them to remaster Skyrim in the near future
He said no morrowind but Skyrim May happen since it’s new enough to where they don’t have to remake it

As long as it's not them doing it. I want ESVI sometime this decade.

I wonder what other games we will gradually make beloved over time with memes. Someone earlier in the thread already pointed out it happened with the Star Wars prequels.
youtube.com/watch?v=MyQn2ic2Wzw

Todd is likely going to get them to remaster Skyrim

Todd doesn't make these decisions moron

paple pwayed da new game

wow real shocker people were playing the new game that was basically a launch title for the xbox 360. Real shocker it got so popular when it was basically the only RPG launch title for the xbox 360 at a time lord of the rings hype was huge.
gonna need some 200 iq analyst to explain how it got so popular despite being the only open world RPG title for the new xbox360 during lotr hype, make it make sense!

Oblivion was a huge step back from morrowind but at least you could PLAY around with spell making and stat allocation for stupid fun stuff like crazy spells and 600 speed/acrobatics or whatever. Skyrim had more interesting world building but cut away all the stats, then was so convoluted under the hood they needed level scaling anyways, they cut back on the stat allocation but kept the power creep. Skyrim had the better world and atmosphere for the walking sim basedfacers, but oblivion had more game to play around with, making it the better game if you want to actually play something.

I don't mind remasters but I do hate how they've come up with three different titles for remasters so they can do it multiple times without people saying "hey didn't you already do a remaster of this"

Skyrim Special Edition

Skyrim Remastered

Skyrim Definitive Edition

Skyrim Definitive Edition: Enhanced

Ultimate Skyrim

soul
vs
soulless

Todd makes all decisions. He has granted you permission to live. Pray he does not revoke it.

can't see shit

"This is soul!"

Re-release a commercial success
X 20 years later and fan base grows with new generation(s)
Use Unreal-5 to gatekeep third-worlders

WHY IS THIS GAME DOING WELL!?

Street Fighter II: The World Warrior
Street Fighter II: Champion Edition
Street Fighter II: Dash
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
Super Street Fighter II Turbo

even if oblivion is the worst elder scrolls game, that still puts it lightyears ahead of bethesda's recent offerings (fallout 4 and starfield)

Fallout 4 was from 2015. That is not recent

Its like a new Elder Scrolls game to many retards who never actually played trough the original because its not Skyrim, it looks and plays too weirdly and ect. Also Bethesda drones are looking for forward to ES 6 and need to buy SOMETHING so they dont lose their mind.
All it boils down to is people being fucking stupid and getting hyped over basicly nothing.

I'd say that the questing in Oblivion is leagues ahead of latter Bethesda games (including Skorim). The writing is abysmal nonsense, but Oblivion can get away with it in a way that other games cannot, since its vibe is already so uncanny and dreamlike.

basically. when todd makes new games people shit on it because of the bugs, if it's an old game they beg him to keep the bugs in and will praise him and willingly play full price + tip. he shouldn't even make new games at this point. Bethesda simps are reddit

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

Battlespire.

Why didn’t the invasion go after Chorrol first? It’s run by some useless old hag and would have been piss easy to destroy

anti-soul gas = anti-soul

Complaining gaming grifters aren't even playing the game. I'm almost certain people have probably only looked at screenshots and haven't actually played the game(no Denuvo). Game has issues, great base though.

I played through the original when it came out but never touched it again after. It's been nearly 20 years, playing it again is like playing it for the first time.

People say the same "uncanny and dreamlike thing" about Morrowind too. Were older TES games really that weird or is this just people having a strange reaction to old graphics because it seems like Skyrim is the only one that doesn't get described this way. Even though screaming at dragons is still pretty weird

It somehow managed to be game of the decade twice. I feel like a kid again

IS THERE ANYONE THERE? I NEED A BIGGER GUN!

People say it about everything. Games with bloom out the ass especially get it. It's just a buzzword at this point, to cope with a game that feels "off."

Skyrim is "gritty." And yeah, Morrowind is dreamlike, but it's also coherent. Oblivion is not coherent, not anywhere close. Let me describe to you a questline in Oblivion:

accuse guy of being graverobber

nobody believes me

break into his home

steal a list of items he's made (it's not even a journal saying how he's robbing graves, just a literal list of stuff)

nab a shovel caked with dirt

clearly, this random shovel and list is sufficient to prove the man was a graverobber

show it to the shopkeeper

he does a 180 and believes absolutely everything with no argument

There is no attempt at being logical.

This is actually pretty accurate. You have seemingly logical quests that just fall apart. The first Fighters Guild quest, too.

quest giver says "you need to help with the rats in someone's basement" but doesn't tell you you're actually literally helping the rats

the lady who owns the rats says something is killing her pet rats

go down there, a mountain lion is there

kill it and go back to the lady, she says to go find a local hunter would be able to help

leave her house, look back where the mountain lions are coming from, there's a giant wall behind the lady's house, there's literally no explanation to how they're getting into the city, they just are

go to the hunter, he says "I know where the mountain lions might be" and then walks right up to exactly where they are without any sort of investigation or anything

the mountain lions are like 3 feet away from him and are completely docile until you talk to him, he says "they should be in this area" and then they become hostile

Dreamlike in the absolute worst way, where the devs just didn't give enough of a shit to make shit make any sense

I don't know if the insanity was intentional or not, considering that your character is Sheogorad and the DLC's theme is about madness. I feel like that's giving Todd too much credit.

Well Todd isn't the one who wrote it so it doesn't matter what he thinks.

At least there was an attempt to tell a story. Every quest in Skyrim is:

go to dungeon

kill

loot

return

Fallout 4 is even worse, as a significant chunk of the main quests will be Radiant shit.

Frog posters believe whatever they have to so they can avoid feeling wrong.

Isn't it because this adventure is bigger than Cyrodill? If they don't stop some assholes from running through Oblivion's gate, then all of Tamriel is at stake.

there's literally no explanation to how they're getting into the city

isn't the neighbour letting them in?

Radiant AI was nothing short of revolutionary and people thought it would set a trend for all games to follow.

Huh? What?? It was scrapped. There was no radiant AI. It was something we all got hyped for before release because fucking Todd was telling us how amazing it was and then on release... nowhere to be found. Then they admitted they had to scale it back to basically nothing because it was too erratic.

No, I mean there's no explanation how they're getting into the city. The neighbor is putting down the meat, but the mountain lions are apparently either sneaking past 24/7 guard posts or climbing a completely vertical stone wall that's 30 feet tall. And it's not the worst lapse in logic on its own, but it's part of a bigger nonsensical puzzle

I mean there's no explanation how they're getting into the city.

Mountain lions are the only beings still capable of casting levitation spells.

I feel like a kid again

Unphased by what kind of people your giving money to and having no standards for what kind media you consume.

This is the level of intelligence of the average Oblivion hater.

That's guards

I miss the days when we gave money to people because we liked the games they made instead of shitting ourselves scrolling through their twitter feed to see if they ever had a political opinion we disagreed with and deciding whether or not to buy the game based on that.

The guards are shapeshifted mountain lions.

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

In what fucking universe?

Shut the fuck up you cock gobbling faggot. The hatred for Oblivion is the least organic thing I've seen in a while. You're just mad that Todd won and your company lost.

You'll have a much easier time understanding why games sell well once you stop assuming every consumer out there knows what you know and is aware of what a minority of nerds who spend their time arguing about video games on the internet think about shit

So .. how horrific will Bosmer look in TES6?

In the post 2016 uni/v/erse

Morrowind

Radiant AI still existed but not like the E3 demo. NPCs had schedules, ate food, traded, stole things, and traveled to other towns. In other RPGs including Morrowind people just stood around in the middle of the night.

In the zoomerverse where the series started with morrowind.

other way around, all the praise is obvious astroturfing

Who cares, I'm going to be playing a based Redguard. I always play whatever the region's main race is

But most Zoomers hate Morrowind because their dopamine addicted brains can't comprehend that it doesn't hold your hand.

Most hated is relative. I'm suggesting that people just forgot that redguard and battlespire exist.

forgot

I think you mean, were not born yet

...I like Battlespire

Zoomers never played Morrowind, they watched some youtuber for 2 hours explaining why it's the best one in the series so they believe it too.

What said. This simply didn't exist in other games, and has barely been put into any other game since.

That Toonami promo was my first exposure to TES and i love how Tom is completely dismissive. Oblivion wound up being my first TES some years later.

I was 18 when Morrowind came out and I never saw this because it didn't air in my country. But I remember playing it on Xbox. It never clicked for me, felt too clunky and there were better RPGs out at the time, like Arx Fatalis. I played only a few hours before dropping it. I played a shit load of Oblivion though when it launched on PS3 so I consider it my first proper ES game.

Oblivion is white man's Elder Scrolls. Skyrim is mutt's Elder Scrolls. Simple as.

Obsiditroons live in a parallel dimention where people hated fallout 3 and loved NV, even before the Bethesda hate train started
this is the case now, but to claim it was always true is some heavy revisionism

Yeah the Xbox version of Morrowind is shit. The PC version is where it's at.

My PC didn't even have a GPU at the time. It was exclusively for CS 1.5 and DC++

mfw some Avowed Devs think the Oblivion Remaster was Bethesda trying to insult them because their game failed

mfw Obsidian is now apparently back in the cuckshed, cranking out a new Fallout spin off.

nexusmods.com/oblivionremastered/mods/996

ITS UP

God, I got about 2 hours into avowed before I couldn't take it anymore. What an absolute waste of an IP.

Gaymers are tasteless slop consoomers that are always chasing NEXT THING

News at 11.

Wake me up when the sex mods drop

If Todd looked like that we wouldn't have The Elder Scrolls.

I like Oblivion because it feels like surreal journey through someone's mad dream while being surprisingly comfy. Neither Skyrim nor Morrowind could capture the same feeling. I have not bought it though. My zero dollars to Bethesda policy remains unchanged.

how are you meant to get large mana pools? i have 100 int and full int enchants and i have like 400 magicka, but i see ppl talking about spells that cost 1500 magicka? what am i missing? try no big spoilers if possible but a hint

min-max your race and birth sign

You haven't bought it, but are you still playing the remaster? Or is this opinion based on the original?

en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Magicka

Can't speak for the remaster

Yeah, I pirated it. Played the original too.

Spell making and alchemy. You can do things like fortify your magicka and then cast giga nukes. My favorite combo is is summon a bunch of bound shit and a fortify attribute and fortify skill to buff up whatever weapon. You suddenly go from a wimpy mage to a badass warrior

people are so starved for a new TES that they'll go nuts over a remaster like this?

Yes. That's literally it.

What a bunch of you retarded anti-Bethesda doom posters don't understand is that people didn't hate Starfield because it was a shit game, they hated Starfield because it didn't have a coat of TES or Fallout paint. People love TES/Fallout and will eat anything made under the IP.

The remaster feels like chinkshit. There are only minimal improvements to the core gameplay mechanics, while it’s drenched in questionable artistic choices and sloppy graphics (just look at the faces and how ridiculous the third-person sprinting animation looks ffs). The reason it’s successful is because the player base, which is mostly made up of subhuman cattle, gobbles up trash like this because of 'da grafics mane', despite it being run-of-the-mill Ue5 slop. That’s the extent of the thought process that went into deciding they should buy the game. It’s also why everyone’s talking more about how it looks rather than the new stuff like dodging and sprinting. At least the older graphics of the original combined with the gameplay captured the essence of that specific time in gaming, thus creating soul. This remaster slop trend is perfect for the soulless bugman that will eat any sputum coughed up to him by Shlomo after 40+ hour work weeks.

The faces look objectively better, outside a few egregious examples of named NPC's. No more neck seams with Oblivion mods, no more armor skin mismatches. No more random crashes because of mods. The actual textures and models themselves are well done. One mod fixes the color grading. The performance is bad and hopefully will be fixed, not all UE5 games run bad.

Is there a good reason why they made a VTM mod for Skyrim and not VTMB?

This, they are bottom of the barrel consumers.

why'd they nerf acrobatics?

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game,

Uh huh, and let's see what it was people hated about it...
1. the leveling system
2. the character models
How about that.

im having a blast

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

What reality do you live in?

Why haven't you downloaded the fat ass mod for your summon?

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

What the fuck are you talking about

I liked Oblivion, I didn't like the leveling system, I liked Oblivion's arcadey non-cumbersome movement and swinging. So I will play it and I will enjoy it, I won't buy it however

Sex mods when?

True elder scrolls fans started with Morrowind

You do know Daggerfall and Arena exist? Daggerfall being twice the rpg Morrowind was. You just like Morrowind more because it was your first, same as Oblivion fans.

Do you still jump like a retard everywhere you go to level up acrobatics or is the leveling system more conventional like Skyrim?

jump like a retard but that's sovl

Arena

Takes place all over Tamriel

Remaster or not, it will never be the best game in the series. That title goes to skyrim.

I don't deny the nostalgic charm. Its silly; but charming.

Now do Morrowind.

see and dee all modders on nexus

force everyone to pay up for Horse Armor™ 3.0 with expansions

I wasn't aware it existed thanks bro.

The remaster is fun to mess around with but skyblivion will probably be superior once its done.
Can't see myself coming back to this version much unless it somehow gets super good mod support and patches that fix the performance.

honestly playing this makes me want to try oblivion since i'm in the mood

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

Were the fuck did that cum from i was playing oblivion around 2015 and I never heard anything like that

should I really not go to Kvatch? I heard you shouldn't go there but its like the second main objective, I expected it to be later

Truth. If Oblivion had failed they would have gone back to the hardcore audience instead of kiddiefying and consolizing the series further and further. Fast travel and level-scaling would have become curse words inside Bethesda, but now they are keys to success because they don't have a high opinion of their audience.

I jump like a retard even in games that don't have a system like this. It's nice to have a game that rewards me for it

do what you want

20 mods tackling the item scaling problem

which one do i fucing use

Nobody except you played Oblivion post-Skyrim. The game was buried and forgotten.

morrowind had nowhere near the audience size that oblivion did. for the vast majority of elder scrolls players, oblivion was their entry into the series.

All of them

fuck off

none of them

Man that looks good but I am too lazy for mods

Don't forget mods that add challenge to the game too. Basically it still needs mods just to make the piece of shit playable. Crazy that Bethesda can get away with it when other developers would get burned for it and crash.

DLSS even with preset K ghosts like crazy

If you turn off lumen in the ini the lighting goes haywire

Fuck ue5

Oh an screen space reflections is broken turn it off

( ノ・・)ノ
My mind was blown when I first played the original Oblivion on the 360. With the N64 being my first console, that world felt H U G E. Hyrule Field seemed tiny compared to Cyrodiil.
We live in a post-Elden Ring world now, where every button is used so efficiently that those controls feel ingrained. Trust me, I love Oblivion for what it is: but goddamn: Borrow proudly. I don't think Souls or Elden Ring would even exist without the influence of The Elder Scrolls.
Oblivion and Elden Ring represent two completely opposite visions of what fantasy combat can be. And yet, within seconds of playing Oblivion, I’m immediately reminded why I loved it in the first place: the lore.
Oblivion is half gameplay, but pure Dares I say it, Tolkien-scratches-that-itch-perfection when it comes to lore—while Souls/Elden Ring delivers nearly perfect gameplay, yet feels, for the love of god… hollow.
Playing Oblivion reminds me why RPGs feel different from other games. Story matters.
If the perfect OPEN world game exists, it's one with Elden Ring’s combat, Oblivion-level lore, and Zelda: Ocarina of Time’s storytelling presentation.
(ノ-_-)ノ ミ Fun fact: 50% of this game is micro-managing your kleptomania and dropping things. It's like a micro-OCD-simulator built in!

That's why it's called revolutionary. It was revolutionary for them. Basically emotional appeal instead of logic is what pro-Oblivion arguments boil down to.

You need to understand that almost no one has any sense. They can't see. They can't hear. They can't taste. They can't perceive touch. Etc. That is the majority of the audience. There are ~200k people global with sense, and some/many of these do not play video games.
The only hope for any medium of Art is for one of this group in any time to become extremely wealthy. Then he can fund excellent Art and you get a Golden Age. The alternative model is random outbursts of quality from extremely dedicated artists who also learn how to game organizations/sales/people etc.

Daggerfall found audience after the unity engine. Even so it's very boring game for very boring cunts.
Oblivion is peal Bethesda, if Skyrim would stick to the oblivion model it would've been good.

Oblivion's open world sucks. It's procedurally generated and barren. The reason why Skyrim superseded it is because of its superior game world and dungeons. No-body plays Oblivion now coming off of Skyrim and thinks how they scaled down the world design. It's obviously a step back.

Oblivion was never hated. It was simply the worst Elder Scrolls game. And it turns out that even a bad Elder Scrolls game is still an Elder Scrolls game.

For all its gameplay faults, Oblivion still had the best cities and individual quests. And they fixed the most egregious issues in the remaster so why wouldn't it sell well?

i meant morrowind*

Oblivion doesn't have a model. It sits between Morrowind and Skyrim being rough and dull. Skyrim isn't rough around the edges but perfected the casual sword swinging game. On the other hand Morrowind is dice roll with more fiddling. There is no sweet spot between these nor is there a need for it. Oblivion is just a prototype shit in Bethesda's journey to consolize and casualize the series.

I was serious, install all of them at the same time for maximum power. I didn't expect you to be someone who hates fun

yeah let me just crash my game

I did this, but even the remaster fucking sucks and UE5 makes it look worse and run worse than modded skyrim.

It does have a model. Model that KDC used to be a great success.
You are being retarded at this point trying to be contrarian.

Delusional. Oblivion was dead and buried by the 2011. It didn't influence shit by that point. Besides you can't attribute anything to a mid-2000's game that didn't pioneer anything. By your logic Call of Duty invented the FPS genre or something ridiculous like that. It doesn't matter what the current thing is or what the current thing was 10 years ago, if 30 years ago people pioneered things.

Look, I'm just nostalgia-goggle-ing. You think I don't know Alchemy is secretly the best thing in this game? I already know this game. Skyrim came out when I was in college and too busy to play video games, so I have zero nostalgia for it. You know what else is barren? Your mother.
it's already proven Playing Super Mario 64 increases hippocampal grey matter in older adults: pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5718432/
I'm gonna play the shit I know I already like. It's the final stage of quality™ NEET taste following, what you grew up with and The Classics.

Video Games are a waste of time. Arguing about Video games is an even bigger waste of time.

superior game world

funny I don't care much for dragons

dungeons

elaborate

It's obviously a step back.

MAybe I pine for a simple early 2000s world anon

A lot of these new VAs sound like troons

TROON TROOOOOOOOON haha trOOOOON

Fuck off already will ya

Try Preset J, and r.NGX.DLSS.AutoExposure=1 engine.ini. Fixed for me.

Is J still the tra nsformer model? I'll try that

Well first off, Ocarina of Time isn't an open world game. Second, Hyrule Field may seem small compared to open world games, but it's packed with things to do. Every few steps you'll run into something interesting. Open world games try to impress you with size and it seems like a great idea at first but then you realize you're just traipsing across an empty landscape and not having a good time. So you resort to your fast travel. And that becomes the whole game, just you fast traveling to the nearest waypoint to your objective and constantly figuring out how you can spend the least amount of time tedious walking around.

this game is real comfy

You do know that Skyblivion is redesigning all the dungeons in Oblivion, right? They will be custom made this time around. Why would they do such a thing if dungeons in Oblivion weren't dogshit?

Oblivion wasn’t disliked by anyone but terminally online grogs. The second it came out it was known as one of the west most popular RPGs ever

And it’s gotten way more popular over the years from memes. You’re fucking retarded

Yeah

woops
meant
nexusmods.com/oblivionremastered/mods/320

And it happens that your hated nerds actually know their shit. Casual dudebros throwing money at Xbox 360 games because it's the current thing don't actually have a wealth of knowledge or good arguments to back up their taste in games.

Also lol @ defending Oblivion from the perspective of a dudebro. Kind of proves what we're saying right.

Hatred of fast travel

Didn't OOT kind of do this with the warp songs though?

what is THE most broken build / gear i can get?

Seething at the internet

Portals and such have always been a good mechanic in games, especially late-game when running errands in the same areas gets tedious. The trick is that they are fixed in place and not all-powerful like fast travel through a map. Most quality of life stuff in games is actually just skills that high level characters would get, but instead they are given to you straight away, like health regen or the spell in Skyrim that shows you where to go. Those are completely fine, but they should be acquired later in the game. It's so stupid they give it to you so soon. Makes me question whether developers are incompetent at game design or simply aware how incompetent their audience is, either way it's not good.

consoomers love slop

if you need any proof look at REPO, Schedule 1, Lethal company, people love no content slop

if you need any proof look at nintendo it will sell 70+ million bundles of the overpriced switch 2

if you need any proof look at linux, people refuse to use it despite it being better than windows at gaming

most people are mindless sheep consoomers who have no real soul, they are just flesh automatons with little capacity for deep thinking and only the most basic emotions.

because it was such an improvement over Oblivion

Fucking what
People were trashing on the fact that 90% of the game is Draugr crypts on day 1

this, I remember most people that played both after the honeymoon period saying oblivion was better.
oblivion has an entire questline spanning each city to get into the mage guild vs skyrim having you cast the fire spell you start with.
it's basically no comparison how hollow skyrim is to oblivion and the bars really not that high.

on top of Bethesda's reputation being in the trash

Reddit doesn't represent real life

Main issues with Oblivion were

Level scaling was downright cartoonish once you reached lv25 and random bandits were spawning with enchanted daedric weapons

Spellmaking and enchantment were ridiculously neutered

Map fast travel is boring and lazy compared to having actual transport networks and acquired travelling methods like levitation

Skyrim was even worse, however. Sort of like how everyone loved Wind Waker because Twilight Princess was so boring.

Spellmaking and enchantment were ridiculously neutered

Retard

Oblivion was my first and I still think its better than Skyrim wtf you talkinjg about

Spellmaking and enchanting breaks Oblivion, so you most not understand the game. You can even get that shit before doing the mage's guild because of the spire dlc.

Found the tranny

Being able to put Drain 100 HP on a bow and one-shot everything isn't as interesting as the wild shit you could do in Morrowind.
No shit you can just make an infinity+1 sword, you can do that in Skyrim too and it's even more boring there.

Wanna trooooooon?

Sad, they fixed the paintbrush bug or am I not doing it right?

There was a lot of interest in the Skyblivion project. I don’t know why you’d be surprised.

Because of nostalgia. All you have to do is run around in the world and see how inferior it is to Skyrim. It's uninspiring and dull where as every nook and cranny in Skyrim is full of content and mysteries. If Oblivion was filled to the brim with content then all those Fudgemuppet and other channels would have kept harping about Oblivion as well, but no, it's a barren world.

KCD is still a thing and you denying it won't change the facts

they fucked with the physics
corpses no longer float, now add this to the bottom of the river having algae now and the fishing quest becomes hell

Mainly because Skyblivion promises to fix Oblivion. Oblivion Remaster doesn't fix anything, and it costs like a full priced game. Its' a travesty what's happening. I guarantee all of you mouthbreathing casuals will just ignore Skyblivion when it comes out and keep playing your slop. That's how it always works in this industry with everything. The worst gets rewarded, the good stays under the radar.

No sorry groomer

Yeah, and it was Skyrim that inspired it more than anything.

Skyrimbaby here, i can't fathom anyone liking Oblivion without a lot of nostalgia.

But muh draugr! Muh linear dungeons!

As opposed to what? Zombies and skeletons and empty, copy pasted dungeons?

the only things skyrim can offer oblivion are the alchemy and enchanting systems and small secondary stuff, like cooking food, mining, fishing and shit
what the hell is it supposed to fix with the gimped magic system?

Oblivionbabby, ngl Dungeons suck but still prefer it to Skyrim

I like your opinions Anon. You seem like you observe the nuances in the programming of these games well. I like aesthetics > realism. Oblivion has this feel that Skyrim doesn't. SOVL is over used, but I suppose I would take someone's goofy vision, a wholehearted attempt, over the "perfect A+" review fodder.

PC games had this feel to them, very goofy. By the time PS3 generation hit, you had PC and console flavors fuse too much. PC games always felt more experimental.

OOT and MM (which I consider semi-open world) are landmarks given the hardware. I think the Japanese are great at perfecting, but in terms of innovation, severly lacking. The more integration between western and eastern, the more experimental and genuine gaming becomes. "This will sell" is the worst approach to gaming. West innovates and produces the technology. East takes said tech and pushes it to the solid limit in terms of polish. East is zen and just wants results. Results = sales. West is contemplative. It's a constant tug of war between the West thinking games are an art form, and the East trying to say "If the salaryman doesn't play your pac man game in between his breaks, it means it's not fun and accessible." West wants to heighten the game genre, East wants to lower it.

Oblivion is a casual action slop as stated by RPGCodex in 2006. rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=129 It's really janky which doesn't benefit that style of game at all. Jankyness is basically a feature of a turn-based game, because, duh, it's not very fluid is it when it's taking turns? Morrowind has literal dice rolls so its jankyness can be excused. In Oblivion it can't. That's why Skyrim is the right approach. Also, the mod literally redesigns a lot of things and fills the world of content which wasn't there in the original. The Demaster was made by outsourced Pajeets while Skyblivion is made by veteran players. Which side are you on?

Oblivion was always the most beloved if you aren't a faggot. Naturally you're a faggot if you don't like Oblivion

Woah, what impeccable logic!

do I seriously have to walk my ass back to the front door of every dungeon when I want to leave

You're just jealous you lack the apathy and brain damage to be a happy little consumer. Ignorance is bliss!

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

Keep telling yourself that morrowfaggot.

yes
and be grateful for clarivoyance
back in my day you got lost both ways, going into and getting out of the dungeon

I know people hated the leveling system, but Anon Babble always loved Oblivion, way more than Skyrim anyway.

Ok but really hows my build before i commit to fucking up

Wtf are you talking about? Ultimas had schedules forever. Gothic 1 and 2 came out before Oblivion and had better interactivity than arguably even Skyrim 10 years earlier. If Oblivion had the Radiant AI it had in the E3 demo then it would have been truly ground-breaking and put the game in the history books forever, but you can't put a crown over the head of a game that didn't even pioneer anything.

I bought it because I loved Skyrim but it actually sucks. FOMO stole my money

Which sure didn't show on Anon Babble or the newly created Anon Babble when Skyrim came out and years and years after. Oblivion was just that game people mentioned in passing and was quickly forgotten for Skyrim.

Redguard

Not speccing into thief

Your name is Desu???

Let's be real, kid, you weren't here in 2006. You don't know what we were discussing back then.

Redguard desu

Keep on coping.

True, I was mostly on Anon Babble and anime boards between 05 and 07, but I did post on a lot of other message boards. When I first started reading Anon Babble I was immediately put off by the overwhelming console faggotry. This was before Steam had even gotten big. People here had fully embraced the multiplatform-globhomo of Seventh Gen consoles when I was still a staunch PC gamer clinging onto 2004 times.

There's nothing to fix. It's straight up the most stable game they've published.

hurr slurp

I didn't ask if you liked it. Or if you didn't get Le Deep 4U RPG Experience™. That's a (You) issue. Back in the real world it runs and plays really well on a machine that isn't shit. Now Fallout 4, that's currently a broken mess. That needs some serious tidying. The "next gen" patch has been a fucking disaster. It's legit fucked at a fundamental level.

They should redo Fallout 3 next. I wanna see the DC Metro tunnels with Lumen shadows. Fuck all the haters.

Oh, like how Dlanor A. Knox would say it.
This joke is far too layered and requires knowledge from at least three separate fandoms so nobody but me will understand it.

So i've tried it, haven't bought it. Its pretty good. Like its just oblivion again, but there's enough freshening up that its nice.
Will i buy it? Not sure, gonna need to put some more time into it.

I still can't figure out if the Starfield criticism comes from people who can't run it trying to disguise their bad computers by vaguely criticizing the game, because gameplay wise it was exactly what I was expecting it to be. Obviously it's not going to be up everyone's alley but neither are TES games and they didn't get anywhere near this level of backlash.

Why would you buy it if you already have it? Do you really just spend money on games to support the company if you feel it's "earned" the purchase?

Oblivion was always the most hated Elder Scrolls game

Back when I had an xbox 360, the only game I would ever see on my friend's list was halo 3, modern warefare 2 and oblivion. I'm starting to think this is a elden ring thing where randomly everyone wants to shit on it to win the culture war or something.

Access to steam would allow me to screenshot and get updates if they change some stuff like item pickup opacity.

I am so confused by the fact that this has sold so incredibly well

Because there's plenty of autists like me who still think its fun, 30 year old boomer normies who have nostalgia for it, and zoomers who buy anything with hype and memes behind it. Just look at the minecraft movie as another example of that.

Oh, that's it? Why not just click "add as non-steam game"? The overlay works. I remember I used to be brazen enough to do that for games that could not be purchased anywhere other than Steam. They have no way of knowing.

the only game I would ever see on my friend's list was halo 3, modern warefare 2 and oblivion.

Yeah and there is a reason why those people constantly demonstrate zero knowledge of video games.

How cool would it be if there were actually 5 oblivion games

Not him but I don't think it updates it then.

Story matters

Oblivion's main story is absolute dogshit but the lore of the elder scrolls is good. They need new writers to actually take advantage of all the lore but that's unfortunately never going to happen. I'm kind of hoping that the success of the remaster is going to encourage them to contract other studios make spin offs that are actually lore accurate.
Then again, the last time they did something similar to that they wound up regretting it because it became better than their own game

Yeah but if you're pirating already it's as simple as downloading and replacing a few files, usually not even the whole game, so that part is no big deal either. But you can definitely already have screenshot functionality.

To me it doesn't even look any better than the original. Original has charm. This has pajeet poo smeared all over it. Even the reshade that tries to bring back the original feel isn't enough.
The main menu is ai slop. They can't even get black wood company armor right. My hands are clipping with brusef gauntlets on whatever weapon I use. Daedric makes you look like a decepticon. The combat is 10x worse. 2 handed is shittier now. My orc's bald head is sticking out of Mithril helmet. It's all over.

Open world games try to impress you with size and it seems like a great idea at first but then you realize you're just traipsing across an empty landscape

NTA but if the landscape is interesting and makes sense and "feels" right, then its fun to explore regardless. Modern open world games have the opposite problem: they keep throwing random shit in the players face and packing in bullshit because they are afraid of quiet moments of exploration. They are afraid the normies will get bored if they aren't fighting or looting something every 10 seconds.

I genuinely think the new marketing strategy is to use bots and influencers to convince normies that their game is the new fotm. If it is done enough, normies just buy it to be part of the group.

Basically they shadow dropped it, so zero marketing spent on it. But I don't buy that. I think the entire marketing budget was spent hyping it up the first few days on release to make it look like the next in thing.

The biggest travesty is that Skyblivion will come out and nobody cares even though it's going to be better than this.

not OP but in a weird way it aged the worst. I wasn't old enough to be interested in or play morrowind when it came out but I found it to be better than oblivion even though that was my first elder scrolls game. Morrowind aged like wine, oblivion aged like milk, and skyrim is good as long as you turn your brain off to the fact that it pretends to be an rpg and you treat it like an action game dungeon crawler and if you mod the shit out of it.

I genuinely think you have mental problems

Anon, I just used to go by "Des" and think Desu is a fun name to use. Glad I could be of service to your crux of finding jokes in things, I know the feeling.

I'm just gonna go with this build as is.

its difficult to tell because a lot of the problems you mentioned are also in line with the shit you'd expect in any bethesda game on release. The visuals are definitely inconsistent though and it gives a "half soul half ai generated" feeling for me personally. Due to the popularity of the game modders will unironically fix it and that's why there's a lot of people who don't care too much about that even though they point it out as an issue. If another game studio that didn't have a big modding community came out with a game with a remaster like this I think most people would be really turned off by it.

I am smarter than you, so yeah.

He should fucking fix starfield.

demonstrate zero knowledge of video games

worse than it's predecessor

oh no, why the fans of the series dislike it

Filthy casuals should STFU and fuck off playing all these games they love so much instead of posting here.

obviously it's just nostalgia fagging. it can't compare to how you felt fighting dragons in Skyrim

The problem with those things isn't that they're there necessarily, but has to do with one specific part of what you said: "random shit." That's the real problem, they aren't painstakingly crafting the world by hand. They're having some software generate it. And that's what really turns the experience to shit, that it's not even a person making it.

why do midwits have such a hard time with knowing the order of things that are titled like the elder scrolls? There's other series that midwits struggle with too and I never understood it. Whenever its:

Title (number): SUBTITLE

they all become retarded

it's a feature to nostalgiafags

Bethesda has the largest network of paid shills out of any company.
I remember when FO76 was announced, I watched the trailer on the official YT channel and despite the video being <10 seconds old, it was literally filled with 100s of comments by ecelebs basically jerking off over it (they also had like 1k likes or whatever each). Truly disgusting
They are doing the exact same with this, dozens of 'content creators' come out of the woodwork and stat howling like baboons over jeetware

Filthy casuals should SIFU

Fixed

The height shit is fucked in this game. Manlet tier for player characters. Chad Imperial guards could hold my orc like a baby.

but has to do with one specific part of what you said: "random shit." That's the real problem.

I would still say that its a problem because even if the quests/tasks/content inside the game world was all well thought through the density of points of interest make the open world feel completely off. The real world has long stretches of nothing between points of interest. The goal for developers making open world games is to suspend the player's disbelief of how congested the world is with activities (which to clarify, is an issue even with open world games that have maps that are bigger than oblivion's or skyrim's) with stretches of nothing that aren't tedious to trek through. The problem is that's a difficult thing to do and the majority of modern AAA developers either

A) Aren't very good

B) Are good, but they are forced to do things a certain way and to prioritize certain things over the important shit because of retarded management

Morrowind aged like wine

lmao

it really did as long as you aren't retarded enough to not understand the game's systems

That's just nostalgia. It aged like vinegar.

I have 0 nostalgia for it because I started with Oblivion and went back to Morrowind much later.

Is this supposed to imply vinegar doesn't taste good

It's good in certain circumstances but I would rather drink a glass of wine than a glass of vinegar

*The way to solve the problem is directly connected to Cyrodill (The Septim bloodline)

As a matter of fact, I just looked it up and found something interesting. Vinegar never spoils. It is such a flawlessly designed, effective substance, that it remains exactly as good at its specialties no matter how many years pass. And some people may not find it palatable, but those who do are very appreciative of what it has to offer.

That may not be how you intended it, but that actually describes Morrowind pretty well.

There's in game chatter that implies the whole world is impacted by this, talks of gates opening in Skyrim and such.

OK, please drink a bottle of vinegar.

Nigga where the fuck did i deny that?