Honest thoughts on the character Joel Miller?

Honest thoughts on the character Joel Miller?

cool character if written by another person

TLOU is gay normie shit

Nothing about Joel is badly written. Maybe his death is and the characters surrounding it, but he is pretty perfectly written right until the end.

An alright gruff antihero with dead family member motivation that would've been seen as a generic dad TV schlock MC in any other medium, but we're supposed to treat him as some big serious prestige character because to a lot of critics video games have never had any narrative depth beyond Pac-Man's interstitial cutscenes and Mario getting a kiss from the princess after beating the shit out of Bowser for the hundredth time.

brutally tortures and single handedly picks apart the WLF near effortlessly

Why was he so based?

family first

survival of the fittest

hates golfing

I would love to be his son in law

No thoughts about joel the character but me and my friends would love to beat pedro pascal to death with golf clubs and hammers in real life I can tell you what

me and my friends

your little homo club ?

I said beat him to death not rape him that commie bitch might enjoy it too much

sees a quick image of him while drowning abby

she suddenly stops

why? did he not want to be avenged?

Joel looks Ellie in the face and says, "I would kill all of those fucking retards again."

what about him is bad?

In that moment Ellie has won and gotten what she thought she wanted, but realizes it isn't making her feel better or making her PSTD go away.
What's more relevant than the quick flashback of Joel is the expression on Ellie's face as she's doing that, it's not vengeful fury toward Abby, it's anguish with herself and crying because she hates what she's doing

it's more that she was working to forgive Joel rather than excise him out permanently, and thus she shouldn't do that to Abbie (and also Lev, by extension)

If you kill your enemies they win or something

Unironically the more chad of the two

could artyom get killed with a golf club?

Should have played as Tommy instead of Ellie tbqh.

he deserved what he got

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Question for TLOU2 haters (and trust that I do think there are valid reasons to dislike it) - why do you have such a problem with how joel was handled in 2? His getting soft over time and losing his edge seems like it's perfectly in line with his story and leads to him getting careless and killed over it. I understand that maybe you wanted Joel to john wick his way through the second game and are disappointed that's not what you got, but I don't think it's fair to call it bad writing.
There are other instances of bad, or at least boring writing in the game, but I don't think Joel is one of them.

why's his helmet look like it's got a little kitty cat snout

joel was the last 40 something white man with brown hair of the brown and bloom shooter era
he's a goddamn hero in this house

Kinda mean thing to say about your dad

I wanna fuck his daughter

He has a lot of friends around him so it's not likely he would get caught like Joel.
Off note but I hate how all zombie apocalypse and similar settings like TLoU are just in a perpetual state of anarchy with nothing but glorified communes trying to establish any centralized authority. That's why I like Metro games, where you have lots of different governments trying to establish control of the Metro.
Radiation filters.

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it's totally normal that the highly experimented survivor suddenly mellows out when he finds figurative safety instead of becoming even more cautelous

ok

nothing but glorified communes trying to establish any centralized authority

This isn't true for TLoU, the setting has the Fireflies and FEDRA fighting for centralized authority over the whole country. You just don't see much of this in Part 2 (FEDRA has recently been removed from Seattle when you get there)

Retards equate sadness and despair with complexity.

He deserved the brutal death he got for his sins of robbery and murder. Fuck you simps.

they should have raped Ellie after killing him but cuckmann doesn't have the balls to do real edgy miserykino
that's where the baby should come from instead of her getting cucked, it would make the part where she kills a pregnant woman impactful instead of retarded

A good man that did nothing wrong

Funny how shills are so desperate to say he deserved it that they have to act like killing bandits is somehow a bad thing while avoiding the issue of stopping a bunch of retards from killing a child all together.

I liked playing as Ellie, they should have let you play as Tommy instead of Abby.

Him and Tommy were the only reasons to play. Remove Joel and Tommy from Last of Us and what's left? Obnoxious dyke, dude weed I'm Jewish by the way dyke girlfriend, Macho Ma'am Randy Savage, Jackie Trans, Asian guy, pregnant lady, and a whole lot of other literal who's. Like a Californian pride parade in the post-apocalypse only more boring.
Oh, actually, Fat Geralt was cool.

Yeah. Sure, somebody could go the opposite direction, but one isn't inherently right or wrong, and this story went one way and not the other.
I'm happy to take more serious critiques from people who know how to spell, or what words mean what, though.

i refunded the game because of his death

lets ruin a cool character because IT WOULD BE SUBVERSIVE LOLLOL

retards

Another character representative of the zeitgeist of the west's suicidal cuck morality. The old jaded huwhyte man has to die or self-sacrifice for the story to reach it's final moral catharsis. This the only value that White men have when they're done being servile protectors to their interracial lesbian adopted daughters

wouldn't have minded so much if you could actually have killed abby but no we go the heckin deep route of forgiveness

Crust status?

You say that as if this isn’t one of the most jewish stories in gaming that is second only to Bioshock.

Every single black character in the TLoU games has also died.

If it had been Ellie that was killed and Joel went on a revenge trip, he would have actually gotten the job done.

actual interesting main character with flaws
Jew did him dirty tho in second game
i'm fine him dying, but could have been done way better

He wouldn't have even looked twice at any of them either, would have been kino

He didnt show us what a synagouge is and had to be dealt with.

don't bother, no memes of Ellie beating a black woman to death or black people committing suicide are gonna convince these retards to look at it any other way than through this incredibly retarded racial filter

He murdered people who weren't bandits as well, retard.

Surprised someone hasn't posted Abby playing golf with Joel yet

Tommy would have made more sense than Abby. To this very day I wonder how far up their own asses the devs must have been to think people would be open minded about playing as the character who murdered Joel.

they were still bad people doe

He also murder people who weren't bad for their stuff as well.

According to Niel Cuckmann Ellie didn't actually want to murder anybody, only Abby. In the end she murders everyone but Abby and the tranny kek

If somehow the Lord gave me a second chance to kill those godforsaken retard nigger faggots... I would do it all over again.

What does this mean?

Like who? Who can you show that Joel killed that wasn’t bad.

unironically hilarious

That tranny is going to space in Cuckmann's Intergalactic: Asian Trannies in Deep Space.

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And its pro-zionist

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No, that actress is not trans and has a small role in the TLoU show now but wasn't in the games.

Pic related is Lev

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It is hilarious. That's why every murder is "whoops killed anyone, damn."

I will fix this game.
1. We have two paths, Abby and co. And Ellie and co. Like the devil may cry or resident evil games.
2. Later, I got tired of writing this, lol.

The first "the last of us" was transparently an overdone zombie story with the typical bullshit scenario (seriously just look at the first scene none of it makes any sense) that was trying to staple zombie movies onto a game engine. Anyone who thought it was a good video game was retarded then and now. It's easy enough to leave it at that without even getting into the political retardation and hollywood fame chasing from druckmann that followed.

You failed to answer OP's question

Did the right thing saving Ellie from the Fireflies, but should have at least explained himself better. And also should have used a false name when dealing with someone who potentially might be hunting him down specifically.

He should've murdered you for being such a whiny little bitch.

Good man. What a dad should be.

yapping about something else

retard

He's a mere actor in a mediocre movie game

I keep forgetting the characters are actually good looking in the games because everyone but Abby and Dina was replaced by goblins in the tv show

Okay but what does that ad hominem attack on that poster have anything to do with TLOU

General opinion on the game is the much more important than character analysis. Hard to give a fair analysis of the character when the general plot of the game stinks.

movie game

Part 2 which you won't play has a mode that distills it down to pure gameplay, with randomized combat encounters, and is fun and adds decent replay value.

Why didn't Part I have that?

where can i play this game for free

Actually, for that matter why did chapter select erase your progress at all?

Part 2 didn't get it until the "Remaster".

The original on PS3 and PS4 has the Factions multiplayer, which I never got into personally but has a devoted fan base. Same mechanics there as the single player story

holy fucking shit what's with that disgusting acne ridden face???

tranifa faggot

with trump around, the cultural war has shifted hard to the right i.e appreciating & promoting traditional beauty. all these ugly, demeaning, insult to life characters won't even make it to release without the sysyem propping up their shit games.

Being a teenager there. Teenagers tend to get acne.

You'll never be a woman.

In that moment Ellie has won and gotten what she thought she wanted

no she didnt she didnt kill abby

but realizes it isn't making her feel better or making her PSTD go away.

she could have done all this sobbing and muh ptsd after finishing the job, makes her journey even more pointless by not killing her

uhh kino?

I know the scars were just put in for gameplay reasons so you're not just killing infected, but what was the point of the Lev storyline, was painfully boring and felt like huge filler.

because it was filler, all to show abby has a heart

Did nothing wrong.

Lev is there so that Abby can kind of mirror Joel's arc and be protective of something.
It's also so that the Seattle setup can be an Israel-Palestine commentary.

An older version of the game's script included Ellie traveling to their island for some reason and getting a glimpse of what normal Seraphite life looks like, but this was removed due to the "for some reason" part

This is actually a good idea.
Cuckmann did what he did because he hates Joel for a multitude of reasons, and is assmad a competent writer saved the first game.
If he wanted to shock people, push the envelope, test morality, whatever, this would be more effective.

Jews are so annoying with this shit.
I came across American Krogan's video on BioShock a few weeks ago, and while I thought Infinite was pretentious shit, it's hard to look positively on BioShock 1 anymore as well.

Ellie's Seattle day 2 is honestly pure kino, going all alone rampaging through WLF and Scars alike felt super badass, it almost felt like a Punisher game somehow, and the ending payoff of Ellie bludgeoning that stupid girl in the hospital was the cherry on top, I still replay it every now and then. Shame they didn't give us a Tommy DLC of the same vibe.
The rest of the game was either mid or straight up bad.

It's disappointing the spic that spat on Joel died so quick.
Good Tommy got to blow his brains out, but he should've been tortured to death.

What did you guys think of the epilogue?
I thought it was meh and unneeded.

Is the epilogue where Ellie decides killing her target is bad, after murdering 60 or so people tangentially related?
Or was there DLC?
I liked the guy who punched the tranny into the garage.

The whole California part. Don't remember there being any DLC.

I unironically thought Tommy was ded in the theater when Abby shot him. A fucking cripple with one eye had more balls than Ellie

Felt bad for Owen, that's about it.

killing him and joel wouldve been too much, even they know that. Tommy is also immediately safe in TLOU3 because killing a cripple is just objectively poor writing, hes essentially already dead

tlou3

I think Cuckmann said somewhat recently it's not likely to happen. Alongside canceling the multiplayer game.

It would be acceptable for Tommy to somehow heroically sacrifice himself and die that way. He just won't be murdered or tortured or executed

The context was saying Naughty Dog treats every game as if it could be their last project, and that being focused on Intergalactic right now doesn't give them much room to think about what's next.
He also gave a near-confirmation that they will eventually make Part 3, and that was also after the multiplayer was cancelled.

it's not likely to happen

hes baiting for clicks, theres quite literally no reason to ever say this randomly to an interviewer after expressing that 'theres still more story left to tell'. They are Sony's most high profile first party studio. The MP game was cancelled SPECIFICALLY so they could keep making single player games. Its bait.

This way when 3 gets greenlit, you have a million faggots going >OMG THEY SAID IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE?!?!?!?