I'm fed up

I'm fed up

Why do conservatives only care about Aesthetic?

What do you mean it's been 30 years since games have been invented? My imagination was enough then and it's enough now!

You want better graphics? I guess you want every game to be a movie huh?

I know that feel, bro

Why does it feel like 3D games have devolved into 3 art styles? You get the Sony hd realism texture pack, the disney fortnite overwatch pack, or really shitty low-poly indie pack

Liberals call it art and culture when they're pumping out their degenerate slop but you're boiling it down to aesthetic when it comes to understanding the conservatives you're arguing with in your head. It might be because you're a hypocrite.

Because it turn out most artfags are only technical artists with not an ounce of actual creativity, they just know how to use a pen/blender.
Give them a world to create and they will only shit out the blandest shit possible, because they have the brain & hand of an artist, not the soul of one.

t. his dream game is just a 1:1 simulation of reality except he's immortal and can shoot fireballs out of his dick

90% of "dream games" I've heard from people were just skyrim with a different flavor.

Mass appeal/skill and budget

No, 3D games just don't lend themselves to art the way 2D games do, you could teach Blender to a monkey (and the game industry certainly has)

Are there any games where you control a massive party of people. I would pref something like 4 niggas in a row type of game except its 10 niggas in a row.

Wonderful 101

lets copy that popular thing!

but not really

Aesthetic is one thing but what really sucks is when the game you're pointed to sucks ass because they didn't follow the exact guidelines in your head.

If someone made a game like that artwork it would be the next Cuphead

I genuinely and truly do not get this image
Stuff on the right is fine albeit a bit boring, but that's kinda what the world looks like so it makes sense people would gravitate towards it
I can't really fathom a Witcher-esque game taking place in a world that look like Yume Nikki's (and to be fair W3 had its fair share of stunning areas)
I get that it all boils down to old good new bad, but it feels like the poor wretch that wasted time making this image should've just sat down and played some moar vidya instead

I can't really fathom a Witcher-esque game taking place in a world that look like Yume Nikki's

I can.

The DenpaMen but it is only 8 niggas.

Then make it, anon, I believe in you ! But I assure you it would fail quite spectacularly with "the wider audience" because most people don't really cope well with that kind of stuff and prefer settings they can immediately "get"
Obviously this brings about the question of how a very large studio would even go about gathering funds for a game that is almost guaranteed to be a commercial disaster, but I'm sure you've got a plan for that too

Make it yourself.

I'm trying

AAH THIS GAME IS CALLING WYVERNS DRAGONS IT'S LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

I genuinely and truly do not get this image

You might actually be retard, Im sorry for your pratents.

Bro CRPGS exist up the wazoo pick one

start learning blender

want to make low-poly stuff

get good at box-modeling

hmm how do people make those realistic textures?

turns out I have to learn how to sculpt and then learn to bake and retopologize

I feel like I've been bamboozled

anyways really nice job

Sculpting isn't bad, it's all retopo being an awful tedious step between fun artistic processes.

The game that made me feel like the image on top as Dragon's Dogma 2. At least the first playthrough but then after it became stale unless I was blazed out of my mind and somehow projecting my entire being into my video game character thinking it was me and if I die, I die irl etc.

Trying to think of examples for "le quirky setting" games just redpilled me on the fact that most of them are simply mediocre games.

Morrowind and Abe's Oddysee are like the two biggest exceptions to this. Any other "quirky setting game" you could think of is likely going to be a half-assed hackjob in the worldbuilding department. The Void, Kenshi, Baroque, Zeno Clash, etc. -- most of these games bank on their aesthetics alone, so they won't even attempt to flesh their setting out and justify their own quirkiness the way a Jack Vance novel would.

I used to think the same way. Even older 2D games followed that philosophy. I always thought those beautiful backgrounds and sprites were placed meticulously pixel by pixel. But like 9/10 times it's drawn normally, scaled down, pixelated, filtered, and cleaned up. Or like they draw pixel art over normal pencil sketches. Basically things are always high-res -> low-res. You rarely ever should start low-res.

you must be this "modern audience" i hear so much about

Do you realize how much money would be needed to create a game with that art style?

battle brothers

ah yes I also loved the fleshed out settings of ancient dragons, elf gods and mischevious but evil demons

5000 years the MISCHEVIOUS AND EVIL Zargaloth tricked the ANCIENT DRAGON Hoarflor into attacking the god of ELF GOD Elmentil causing millenia of STRIFE AND WAR and now it's up to YOU the HERO of the SWORD to unvel the conspiracies in this ancient land and save all the peoples!!!

OMG KINO KINOOOOOOOOOO

what you're trying to describe is literally the cover of the most mainstream basic idea of classic fantasy, what the fuck is your point?

That's not even quirky, just generic.

yeah that was the point? you nigger brained illiterate monkey? I was making fun of your "fleshed out" settings that are all the same 500 pages of generic crap

But I assure you it would fail quite spectacularly with "the wider audience"

Most good games do. A well designed game with a strong focused concept is inherently niche. Only subhumans who only care about making as much money as possible want everything to be made with mass lowest common denominator appeal in mind.
But to act like there isn't still an appeal for good games is either deceitful or retarded. You should kill yourself.

You lack to self-awareness required for conversations with other humans. Reread his post and then read yours.

That is why picture books will be forever better than vidya

how about I fucking kill you? how about that?

bloodborne would fit well into the left slot tho

Try the Overlord games. Not memeing, you will like them imo

Morrowind and Abe's Oddysee are like the two biggest exceptions to this. Any other "quirky setting game" you could think of is likely going to be a half-assed hackjob in the worldbuilding department. The Void, Kenshi, Baroque, Zeno Clash, etc. -- most of these games bank on their aesthetics alone, so they won't even attempt to flesh their setting out and justify their own quirkiness the way a Jack Vance novel would.

look into Mohrta

shits on random kid making his first game for no reason

and it didn't really work with controllers.

Halo Wars solved that AND was using consolefags' favorite IP, and it still didn't do much.
The problem was always the playerbase's limitations, not the controllers'.

Nah I just play vidyagaems because I like vidyagaems
I appreciated stuff like OFF and ibb back in muh days, and I still uncover some hidden gems, but it would be asinine of me to spout the classic "muh RDR2 is bad because there's trees" pasta

who only care about making as much money as possible

Unfortunately that's been the modus operandi of most major companies since the dawn of time
Anon's original image showcases a whole lot (I actually don't recognize half) of modern AAAAAA games that heavily rely on their pretty graphics and scenery to sell their setting: and all of them make sense, I don't think RDR2 would benefit from having a quirky style to properly tell the story it's trying to tell
I don't deny you can create an unusually setting and make it work because of quality game mechanics especially since I just finished playing Tyranny; I just think the poor wretch that made that original image should spend his time playing vidya instead of bitching about the most mainstream games in the universe not being quirky enough by his (admittedly blurry) standards

The Last Remnant is probably what you're after.
store.steampowered.com/app/23310/The_Last_Remnant/

Alternatively, if you're looking for specifically 12 niggas in 3 rows at the same time more abstractly
store.steampowered.com/app/1131920/LABYRINTH_OF_TOUHOU__GENSOKYO_AND_THE_HEAVENPIERCING_TREE/
store.steampowered.com/app/1131920/LABYRINTH_OF_TOUHOU__GENSOKYO_AND_THE_HEAVENPIERCING_TREE/

well yeah bottom pic is what happens when someone's vague idea of a dream game gets attempted by said ideas guy

u can hate on bg3 but setting variety there is great

I fucked up and didn't copy the second link properly
store.steampowered.com/app/3067930/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_Tri_The_Dreaming_Girls__The_Mysterious_Orbs/

Last Remnant is really cool but has a sneaky anti-grind mechanic that I don't quite remember the details of, but it was controversial back then

Symphony of War and Unicorn Overlord both have you control "units" that are actually parties of several characters.

Why does it feel like 3D games have devolved into 3 art styles?

Because actual artists with creative ideas get past up for routine tenured workers that have been working in these companies for decades already.
The industry wants games that sell. And not just sell, but sell well past expectations. Creativity doesn't sell. Brand recognition and realism does.

Last Remnant is really cool but has a sneaky anti-grind mechanic that I don't quite remember the details of

bosses get new abilities based on your battle rank which is sorta like your level based on how many battles you've fought. the controversy you mention was on the halfway final boss at the end of the first disc becoming super hard if you went above certain battle rank (like 42 or something) and you couldn't grind your way out of the challenge. playing normally without grinding is the intended way to play the game, although the game also punishes that by starting you at low morale on every battle you engage with enemies when you're low battle rank.

god i fucking hate how overlord was the only game to copy pikmin as a concept and it just killed itself

The Elder Scrolls basically came out of the people just trying to make a CRPG D&D with different rule-system if I'm not mistaken. Typical for most C-RPGs at the time.
Tactics RPGs is what you are looking for, RTS is more mass battles than Skirmish Battles.

thank God ai will soon be able to make 3d models with perfect meshes and textures

it's nowhere near as hard as it looks, believe me, I feel your pain when it comes to not being able to model and texture and all the rest of it which is how I ended up with my current workflow
messing with adding details via bumps on the sculpt and normal map stuff today, pic related, takes no time at all. this is 400 tris btw. the low poly mesh you get from Quad Remesher doesn't even have to fully line up with the sculpt either, baking is really generous
posted about the process I use here:
you also don't need to box model since Quad Remesher takes care of the low poly mesh for you from the sculpt, although if you want to do it manually you might get better results that deform better or whatever

manual retopo is for chums

some earlier stuff from this workflow. ignore the total lack of anatomy knowledge, it's just me testing shit out

what's the game on the bottom?

Look into SRPGs like Fire Emblem and Final Fantasy tactics, if you don't like either of those there are a bunch of spinoff/similar type games that you could describe as the "10 niggas in a grid" genre.

Left is just Xenoblade X if you set the time at 18:00.

Do you know who Jack Vance is

sorry bro we can't have fantasy RPGs with actual gameplay you will die of boredom playing turn based tabletop derivative slop and you will be happy

They should make one that's done right.

RNG'd regions on a hex map.

The hex map has a few set in stone places the wilderness inbetween is randomized.

There might be more or less dangerous dungeons in said wilderness for you to explore.

Your goal is simple, loot, kill, level up, set up a domain of your own as a lord in your own right.

Wage wars with other domains and adventure.

Your goal now is to become worthy enough to face Gods in order to ascend into Godhood.

Your goal after that is to become the God above other Gods.

ala BECMI style progression, now that's kino. Dungeons should be done from first person view and you should be forced to map them or hire a cartographer to help you map them in game for example.

This is pure D&D in its essence no matter how you slice it.

> RNG'd regions on a hex map.

> The hex map has a few set in stone places the wilderness inbetween is randomi

sex with dragon women

Unreal Engine geometry, assets and lighting makes so many games even across different genres look and feel samey in way that didn't used to happen 15-20 years ago.

It would be just like the grand fathers of fantasy RPGs intended the genre to be played from the 70s to now and not your slop based on Dragonlance and linear story shitters that might as well be movies or novels.

what's the last one?

t. bauhaus apologist

That's because perf & graphisms have plateau'ed.
Before that, every dev had to make sacrifice on what they really wanted to afford graphically and what could be ignored/simplified. It mechanically resulted in shit looking wildly different.
Nowadays you can afford all the polygons on everything, with every special effects and every shaders. Shit look only different if the art team consciously decide so, and it turn out most of them are extremely milquetoast for anything that require more commitment than a concept art.

this is the shit

you will die of boredom playing turn based tabletop derivative slop and you will be happy

Infinity Engine games, RTWP. Why you fags hate on RTWP?

on the right? Ghost of Tsushima, if you mean this, then here

the worst shit about video games today is how much they are afraid of color of any kind. Its like everything has a quakelike filter over it nowadays to make it "realistic". remember kids if its not drab and washed out, its pure fantasy

if you look at concept art you'll often see way cooler looking visuals than in any final product, that of course has been getting worse too since artists are realizing there's no point in making the concept art super dope and unique when Levi Mcshekelstein is gonna flanderize anything you draw for them.

my dream game is the perfect conan game that combines the arnold movies and the frank frazetta cover art from the comics. i want a game that looks exactly like that at all times and perfectly captures what the conan world is all about and is awesome to play. is maybe technologically feasible in 40-50 years, one can only hope n pray...

you need to be at least 30 to play game on the left

Hello, time traveler from 2008.

Teyon [RoboCop: Rogue City devs] are working on a Conan game, potentially, going by their action RPG job listings

I had no idea that my taste in art somehow magically ruled my wider political beliefs, that explains so much! I never understood why I automatically became extremely racist and capitalistic after appreciating a beautiful renaissance painting, I need to be careful with what art-gallery I go to next lest I find myself lynching some random black guy

Let’s of course forget how Ezra Pound (one of the fathers of modernist poetry) was a massive fascist, and how the socialist-based arts and craft movement was ultra traditionalistic. Of course let’s forget how the Soviets had very traditional views on art, and how the ultra-rich love minimalism

it's gonna suck ass. i know it in my bones. we are not ready for an actual good conan game. in a couple of decades, we might be.

I got you nigga

For me it's the 200 "famous game" clones with lackluster mechanics, art by an art school dropout and GameMaker2000 defaults fonts badly aligned.

The form is there but it's still really ugly. And it has nothing to do with the fact that it isn't a trillion polygons or doesn't use raytracing. Rather it's the terrible texturework you'd see recycled in games like Elder Scrolls. Instead of beautiful handpainted works, it's like they keep photobashing images from real life to the point everything looks like mud. At that point I think it might look better without any textures. Just use vertex coloring. Even PS1 games look better than this.

What's the gameplay like? How do you reach that dragon? Is it a meaningful fight or just a random boss fight? To me there's more to the image than the aesthetic, there's the entire implied context of an adventurer venturing out into the unknown for weeks before reaching the destination to fight the dragon

What's the gameplay like?

rollslop

Is it a meaningful fight or just a random boss fight?

random boss fight

It comes completely out of nowhere. You're exploring a secret lab in a spooky mansion and then you step out the back door and you're suddenly in this weird aviary thing and there's a dragon there that you fight for no reason. Then you go up a random elevator into the sky to where all the dragon nests are.
Dark Souls 2 did not have any kind of sense to its world design.

What is the game name

world of warcraft has everything on the left

The Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno

How do you reach that dragon?

there's the entire implied context of an adventurer venturing out into the unknown for weeks before reaching the destination to fight the dragon

Hmm. In this game, you're somoeone cursed with eternal undeath, and decide to leave everything you love behind to break the curse. You plunge into the abyss to emerge in a forgotten, distant kingdom. Here, you traverse wartorn fortresses, sunken cities, murky forests, underground caverns, brimming with danger, foes and traps, so that you can defeat four great beings, whose souls are great enough to grant you passage to the King's castle. With your newly acquired strength and every tool you found so far, you reach the entrance in the midst of a storm. The castle is emptied of most valuables, the king has fled and hid himself to protect the world from a darkness that consumes all. You must venture through a mystical lake, and reach a gigantic crypt which houses the spirits of warriors of all eras. You best the King's guardian, his last line of defense, only to meet the ruler himself, now an empty shell of what he once was, mindlessly roaming the dark halls. His ring however, grants you access to the keep of his brother, who has found the knowledge to break the curse that afflicts you. As you make your way through the domain, its dark dungeon and labs, you witness many horrors and failed experiments, that are deadly to anyone foolish enough to provoke them. As you exit the manor, you see the Sun again, and find yourself at the edge of the world. As far as the eye can see, into the horizon, the pillars that once held the world up, stand tall like colossal spears, and you know you have to reach their peak. The peak, with wonders beyond imagination, and possibly the answer to your curse. However, a final obstacle stands in your path. A dragon, who is guarding the only way up. You approach it.

hear a splinter cell successor came out called intravenous

get excited

it's just stealthy hotline miami

Sounds gay. Is the game called Kissing Boys Simulator? Is the game called Super Faggot Bros? Is the game called I'm a Man Who Loves Other Men 64? It should be called one of those because of how gay it and its players are.

These posts deserve the 'biggest cocksucking retard faggot of the year' award, congrats. Post address so it can be sent to you by mail.

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Dark Souls 2 is literally the least rollslop game made by From starting from Demon's Souls and going to Elden Ring.

Besides Sekiro, but that's parryslop.

The game on the top is Dragon's Dogma.

Graphics literally don't matter. Obsessing about them instead of what's behind the facade is childlike. After all, most people only appreciate graphics as a first impression, before taking them for granted and focusing solely on the gameplay.

unless your favorite game is Dwarf Fortress then this is a retarded opinion
they're VIDEO games, visuals are important

most people only appreciate graphics as a first impression

Uh, no? I enjoy it all the way through.

ok guys, it's been 5 minutes. You can turn the graphics off now.

dwarf fortress does have graphics though, even before the graphics update it used sprites clipped from a sheet that did double duty as text.

It's not retarded at all considering there's games like Minecraft, which looks like a dog started all over the screen that got popular enough to get its own Hollywood movie.

I can tell you live in a brutalist slav hellhole

No, I just enjoy a large variety of games, some of them have simplistic graphics and are still very enjoyable.

Why do Leftists only care about function? Imagine combining both aesthetic and function into one. What a wild idea.

Lucky for you:
Xenoblade chronicles
Guild Wars 2
NeoZelda
WoW

I will admit that GW2's setting sometimes leaves something to desire, but at least you can level entirely through just exploring the world.

If it had better gameplay would be the perfect game.

Graphics were a mistake.

dont be absurd, there are four titles in just that series alone, not to mention:

If it had better gameplay

monolith visits zelda team to work on zelda games

the zelda team will never visit monolith to work on xenoblade

I like the new zelda games, but the gameplay seems like it would fit xenoblade better.

The longer you look the shittier games tend to look, once you start noticing things like repeating textures, repetitive nature, and a bunch of samey looking enemies and NPCs, the illusion of aesthetics wear off quickly.

Don't forget all the side quests that practically tell you to get 10 boar asses and make you grind, although the steam version is way more lenient about this than the original version

That's ironic coming from a person that think any man in a dress is a woman, don't you think?

It's dark mode but for video games

They work on a Predator game not Conan. I know someone who works there kurwa jebana. Some time ago they got approached and really liked the idea the CEO is apparently massive fan. I wasnt suprised at all while being told its Predator project they work on looking how the IP is getting multiple big media stuff and seems to be getting revived currently in general.