*irish babble*

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Isn't it weird that Bioshock Infinite's plot is just a more retarded version of Bioshock 2's plot in a way? Like they cover so much similar shit it's really weird but in Bioshock Infinite is worse. The father/daughter stuff in Bioshock 1&2 is charming but seeing how you're to view Elizabeth like a lover, being around the same age at her and how sexy she can be is really offputting when you play as her literal alt-time father, and also she's the miracle child of a deranged cult leader who hates the protagonist because of the marks on their hands. Like am I just schizo or is there something here?

Bioshock infinite is unironically one of my fav games I have ever played, I just love the game. I have played it loads on and pretty much every platform.

fag

Cool story. I'm glad you like it, even if your taste is shit

Every Bioshock game's plot is a butt-fuckingly retarded version of a real piece of media that's existed for 30-50 years. It's just that people aren't fucking literate at all.

I genuinely do not understand how having taste this shit is even possible. Like Bioshock infinite is a worse game than Bioshock 2 in quite literally every single way. It has absolutely nothing of value to offer over the previous game that it makes zero sense for anyone to actually say they like it.

I can't stand the butchery Bioshock Infinite and Burial at Sea did to Bioshock's lore, but I admit I can see why someone thinks Bioshock Infinite is good. I think it's heavily overrated but you can have fun in that game, even the story (though the ending makes no sense at all).

Elizabeth is also hot and her Burial at Sea model is one of the few good things to come out of that shitty lorebreaking self-indulgent DLC. I swear that model has be bricked up for real.

But yeah I love Bioshock 1&2 more the Rapture setting is truly unmatched. Two of my favorite games of all time, and I've considered getting Jack's chain tattoos if I was more of a tattoofag.

quite literally every single way

better story

better art style

better powers

better gun play

You are a shitter.
I bet you and these fagsjust do the ole

I hate bioshock infinite

do I fit in yet guis

FYI bioshock 1 gunplay is complete dogshit and the game is bloated with shit mechanics like ammo types and hacking mini games
Bioshock 2 is a fucking tower defence/hoarde game where you just defend the little sister while she collects adam.
At least bioshock infinite is forward moving in a linear fashion with great battle sequences and sky hooks, even if I do prefer OG bioshock back tracking im sim like gameplay, where infinite is a rather linear FPS

though the ending makes no sense at all

Just because you are a brainlet

bloated with shit mechanics like ammo types and hacking mini games

Ohhh yeah who can forget the amazing "take pictures of your enemies with a camera to learn their stats" mechanic.
Great game fags.

At least bioshock infinite is forward moving in a linear fashion

That's literally why it's fucking bad you absolute nigger

Hey shut the hell up I like the ammo types and hacking minigames and defending the little sisters from freakish splicers was fun and made you feel like a big daddy.

Bioshock Infinite isn't some abomination of a game and I will say it's gunplay is better, but gunplay isn't the be-all end-all for me. Plus Bioshock Infinite was a bore to get through, everything felt so samey and I really could not care what was going on.

better story

Entire story is soooo self indulgent and makes no sense at all. Time Travel and alternative dimensions 90% is written terribly and Bioshock Infinite is a chief example of that, I'm a smart guy but my brain hurts trying to think of Bioshock Infinite's timeline. Plus the old-timey racism parts of the story had me laughing my ass off at how comic it was, and there is really no good justifible reason for a lot of enemies existing and they really feel inconsistent in general.

better art style

Bioshock Infinite is a gorgeous game but I'm not a steampunk-whatever the hell it is, save for maybe Dishonored. Rapture's artstyle is unmatched and all the enemies feel consistent with each other, they're all spliced up freaks of nature. The crow enemies and the handyman enemies in Infinite really don't make much sense for their existence. The Bouncer Big Daddy is one of the chief faces of gaming, and was for awhile, that enemy has one of the most iconic designs in gaming and Andrew Ryan is one of the most iconic video game characters ever. Nobody ever makes Bioshock Infinite Easter eggs, but everyone makes Bioshock 1 easter eggs and almost always it's about Andrew Ryan. Lamb is a decent counter-point to Ryan while Comstock makes no sense for his beliefs like at all.

I also don't like how lame the power-ups in Infinite all, drinking them feels lame, I think only the crow guys use elixirs like at all, and theres no gene tonics, and the theming is lamer than the direct drug-addiction allegory Bioshock 1&2 make.

Bioshock infinite was ruined by how populated Columbia was. What made Bioshock so great was that desolate feel of ruin. Going around Columbia and just having people going about their day normally just completely killed all tension the game could have had. The setting felt so unthreatening compared to how hostile Rapture felt.

I almost did a spit take laughing when you go into a white supremacist church and they've got a fucking giant statue of John Wilkes Booth slap bang in front of the entrance and paintings of Lincoln depicted as evil literally fucking everywhere. Bioshock infinite is so insultingly juvenile in it's writing it legit feels like it was writing by a 15 year old.

If you think it makes any sense then you are the brainlet. Think about it for like 5 minutes and you would easily see that it makes no sense and nothing you do in the game even matters. You can like the game's plot and story but legit, time travel AND alternative dimensions just completely destroy ALMOST any game they touch.

YOU try explaining the ending in this thread then man. Because I legit it lost me.

Genuinely isnt it weird how ireland and the irish are all over media since the 10s, every western vidya has ireland or irish now, theyve even infected japan with nioh racebending whites into that green race

Think about 80s, 90s 00s you never saw or heard about ireland and the irish and now theyre forced into everything....

In a way it's actually sort of based to have so much racist imagery in one place. Like it's not even 1930s era of racism the entire city is run by the Ku-Klux-Klan basically. My issue is that why didn't they just enslave or kick out all the none WASPs? Like they completely control immigration, it's not like you have Mexicans using hot-air balloons to try and get into Colombia, or even why they invited those types of people into Colombia in the first place.

The Irish get the pass because of how delicious corned beef is alongside their beer and whiskey.

nta but youre right not just vidya but all media, films, tv, bill o reilly colbert joe biden o'bama, new media too jack septic eye, that fag everybody links too that whines about darksouls and oddworld, they have parades dye our waters green their terrorists go unpunished

the constant increase of irish influence globally feels inorganic

Think about it for like 5 minutes and you would easily see that it makes no sense

Because you are a brainlet...
You cannot mentally comprehend "constants and variables" or paradoxes or quantum entanglement so it literally eludes you because you lack the actual intelligence to comprehend it so you "it doesn't make sense" like a low INT brainlet retard would do, instead of learning and trying to increase ones intelligence.

YOU try explaining

It would fall on deaf ears.

Because I legit it lost me.

Because this, You don't have the mental faculties to comprehend.

You cannot mentally comprehend "made-up bullshit and made-up bullshit" or made-up bullshit or made-up bullshit..."

It would fall on deaf ears.

You don't have the mental faculties to comprehend...

So AKA you have no idea WTF is going on either LMAO fuckin reddit ass fart sniffer over here. Fallout 4 Father ass dialogue over here. You're a Bethesda NPC. There is no way you are a real person, you gotta be trolling me man. You can like Bioshock Infinite man I just don't get the story and it's a pretty game for sure but it was kind of boring to me because I don't really like Steampunk and time travel and alternative dimensions. I prefer genetic manipulation and claustrophobic tunnels and art-deco design and ruined cities with ruined inhabitants were it's a struggle for survival, hence why I prefer Dishonored 1 over Bioshock Infinite. It was cool to have a floating island game since floating islands are a cool concept and they had some cool ideas with how to navigate that.

Personally I think they should have changed the ending and plot a bit and make it it's own setting rather than a core Bioshock game ala Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne, Sekrio and Elden Ring, but that's on me, you already have that with System Shock and Bioshock, call it "Timeshock" or "Splittershock" and have more freedom to doe what they want rather than keep trying to relate it to Rapture that has nothing to do with Infinite. I wish they also leaned more into the body horror of the concept art and fully explore the consequences of multiple timelines merging together into a big mess.

That's just me though. I just love the Rapture setting so much, it's the main appeal of Bioshock for me more than anything.

Bioshock 1 was a game with a really good story that was topped off with a really good twist that brings everything thematically together. Bioshock infinite felt like they had a twist in mind and then sought to retroactively write a game around that twist no matter how much they had to bend and contradict to make it happen.

The Irish would've taken over the entire planet if it wasn't for their insatiable love of whiskey and gin. Pinoys wished they had a fraction of power that is contained within the shattered livers of the eternal paddy.

Reminder that Bioshock is the reason that the term "ludonarrative dissonance" exists

I thought it came from Uncharted and how you gun down hundreds of people yet still Nathan Drake gets portrayed as a good guy?

It was partially popularized by that but originally Clint Hocking coined it in response Bioshock's themes of free will and choice without allowing you to meaningful express it during gameplay

I like it but how can you say its better than Bioshock 1? Its basically a corridor shooter with shitty cod style gunplay. Bioshock 2 was also better simply because you could run around drilling shit.

Yeah I can definitely see it. It's ironic that the game with that as it's theme is the game with the most linear and restrictive design in the series.

not my fav but its a GREAT game, its a good fast paced shooter, which i like, i suspect most of the negativity comes from fans of the original slower paced Bioshocks

That drill saved my ass in BS2 so many times man.

i just played 1 and 2 for the first time and now i'm slogging through infinite and i couldn't agree more. jesus H christ this game is bad. the first two are awesome and i love them both, but i have no idea what they were thinking with infinite. it's like the devs got people to vaguely describe the first two then tried to recreate them from the description. i'm several hours in, just finished the Fink workshop segment and i am having to force myself to keep playing. it really is a massive step down from the first two, in every regard

streamlined to an embarassing degree

veers wildly back and forth between 'mindlessly easy' and 'get facerolled by a giant robot five times until you chip its health down to zero', almost no inbetween (i'm playing on hard so i imagine any other difficulty is piss easy)

every gun feels the same

modifications don't appear on your guns to make them look more and more steampunkish

the melee weapon is pathetic and hits like a pool noodle compared to the drill in 2

skyline things are half-baked and feel like ADHD: the mechanic

game is set in a flying city powered by quantum mechanics but the story and lore is mostly concerned 'white man bad'

writing in general feels like it was handled by a room full of first year creative writing students

first two games are dripping with so much atmosphere that i struggle to think of a more compelling video game setting off the top of my head - infinite has none to speak of

rapture is just way cooler than columbia

i do like some things about it though. i'm a sucker for pre-WW1 settings, most of the vigors are decently fun to use (still not as good as plasmids), the concept of columbia is solid, and Elizabeth a cute. having played all three for the first time very recently, i think my drill-only run in 2 is the peak of the series for me. i will continue to self-flagelate via infinite, if only to more properly and thoroughly hate it

were the vox populi wrong?

Is there vox populi sigma phonk tik tok edits yet

I like how Bioshock 2 had a more nuanced and subtle approach to racial relations with characters such as Grace Holloway and areas like Pauper's Drop and Bioshock Infinite just goes the exact opposite direction.

Because you are a brainlet...

You cannot mentally comprehend "constants and variables" or paradoxes or quantum entanglement

Neither could Levine, as he confessed on r*ddit back when the game was new

(You)r Booker walking through a door suddenly makes him *the* single Booker at the nexus whose death will eliminate every single Comstock ever because... it just does, okay?!

oops nevermind a Comstock survives and fucks off to Rapture which as per the universe's rules means there's infinite Comstocks out there but he's truly meant to be *the last one* because... he just is, okay?!

Riveting narrative. No wonder half the game was cut, tons of devs threatened to leave the studio over Levine's directing and the dude hasn't worked on a project for more than a decade.

This gets said alot about video game writers but Ken Levine legitimately is a hack. Him subliminally writing Bioshock about Jews just makes it worse. Infinite was just straight up so blatantly on-the-nose it comes off as propaganda.

Their weapon variations were straight doo-doo, no wonder they almost always lose the civil war or end in a stalemate

the sassenach know shut it down

for what idea? stop bigotry. genocide them all?

did he write all three? i found the writing steadily got worse, but it was at least still good in 2, just not as good as 1. infinite feels like it's trying to say way too much

hacking in 1 is stressful as fuck on later levels

enjoy the hack dart gun in 2

i wonder what changes they made for the hacking in infini-

2 was another studio entirely, Ken didn't write it and it's so jarringly different from 1 and Infinite's "messaging".

i thought lamb as the antithesis to ryan worked because she was a complete nutjob commie like how ryan was singularly obsessed with his libertarian ideals. at one point she goes on about how full "ego death" of the rapture family is her end goal and they need to die if they don't achieve it. it was like a direct contrast to ryan's obsession with individual freedom and free will, so the two games came off as sort of a yin and yang thing to me. all that said, i still can't figure out wtf infinite is trying to say outside of "racism and idolatry bad". of course i'm not sure if I've even hit the halfway point yet

Was it based that they put all the Color People and the Irish in DEVIL outfits and still made them evil?

game so shit Elizabeth's VA abandons the industry and becomes a lawyer

pro bono

for the fucking Anti-Defamation League

What did Levine do to her...?

big daddies, hacking, using the environment to its fullest extent, punishments, loadout selection all gone

Infinite is not so much racism bad, it's literally saying American culture is bad and that for Booker since he fought for them, there is no redemption not matter how much he is trying to atone.

The biggest reveal upon reading and listening to Ken talk about the first Bioshock game is that it isn't even a critique about Objectivism, it only uses that as a backdrop. It's about Jewish exceptionalism and revenge.

Where the fuck is it, Ken?

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The gameplay is just a generic boring AAA shooter, with awful AI, bullet sponge enemies, with

and make a damaging trap!!

Levine's writing made it that much worse. I genuinely feel like the porn is the only good thing to come out of Infinite.