You have 5 (five) minutes to explain how this is not an objective downgrade...

>grass only renders a few fucking feet

thanks ps3

you have a subjective preference. a remake that overhauls everything graphically was never going to meet every single one of your subjective preferences that you for some reason believe are objective.
have a nice day.

a lot of oldblivion looks like shit you dumb nigger, the skybox and the sunset are not one of those things

I mean, everything in a different cell isn't rendered with 16 polygons and a 512x512 texture stretched over miles of landscape, so that's an improvement.

It was like that on high end PCs at the time, too.

Oblivion was the start of making PC games "console friendly" from the start. It's why a lot of its mechanics were dumbed down from Morrowind. Though Skyrim dumbed them down even further.

og oblivion has some of the best skyboxes in gaming

why does Remastered have LA smog? there's cars in Oblivion?

one of the first things people did on pc was mod the grass to stretch into the distance. Grass tanks fps, bethesda's LoD cell magic was created so that shitsoles to run open world rpgs. So yes, the ring of grass around the player is because of shitsoles

oblivion sucks
but it's a FACT it looks better than the remaster in a lot of ways which is fair grounds to shit on the remaster you apologizing faggots

Nah Morrowind was the start. It was dumbed down for Morrowind and made for Xbox. Todd fought to have a lot of things dumbed down to make it more palatable compared to Daggerfall. A great example is the combat. Todd insisted on it being as simple and mashy as possible when Morrowind was originally going to have combat that was directional based and was focused on strategic targeting of limbs. You can still see the directional attacks in the main game but there’s no point to them because one of your attacks does the most damage

increasing render distance is a graphical option in the game or an .ini edit, you don't need to mod the game to do that

Looks like there is a forest fire in the top image

Fuckkk the soul is oozing out of it

morrowind too

And even Skyrim.
I've always said that pretty much the only good thing in these games are the skyboxes, whatever artist they have doing them does good work. Modders are often good at improving them too, unlike other things.

Go kill yourself and die, faggot-ass aids-ridden redditor.

what was is the point of this??

My guess would be answering OP's question you adhd riddled retard.

Give it a month or two, anons will turn on it and start saying

Oh yeah the remake sucks it was just a quick move to try and combat Skyblivion

God damn, that's gorgeous. Love older game depictions of space, tickles my autism just right

kill us with cringe

They hated him, for he told the truth

the 2025 version of the game has better graphical fidelity

Wow! What a surprise! Still looks worse, faggot

game?

grass rendering capped at like 10 feet because of consoles

Oblivion always sucked.
The level scaling turns the game into a fucking joke.
lol you leveled up now every shitty rando bandit is wearing daedric armour worth more than a house

criticizes tech of a twenty year old game while failing to address art direction

This is why no one takes video games seriously

with zero specular mapping

good job outing yourself as an absolute retard

So are there any mods that make original Oblivion more like Remastered yet

dont like it, dont buy it

The Final Scroll's Elder

at least turn off the setting that forces every weapon to always do it's strongest directional attack

Yeah put on some sunglasses, that dark brown sepia look is a perfect fit

PURE UNBRIDLED SOVLLLLLL

You're being blatantly ahistorical if you're pretending like Oblivion didn't look good when it released. Nowadays its technological limitations are beyond obvious, but I think it still looks okay aesthetic-wise. There are still some moments and areas in the game which look picturesque.

Watch the sky

people are unironically contrarian enough to defend original Oblivion graphics

even back in 2006 that shit looked like ass and needed shitload of mods to look even passable, meanwhile the remaster only needs reshade to remove the piss filter and a few lines ini file for optimization

There are no gamers anymore, everyone’s performative, even their discontent with the work is not real

Good job on not disproving what I said at all, retard.

doesn’t recognize my 4060ti sets my pc at 480p and medium settings

I'm going to wait for Skyblivion. You suckers paid $40 for some unreal slop lmao

absolute lack of vegetation, objects

Now say what you want about Oblivion but this is a blatant lie. Out of all TES games, Oblivion is the only one WITH vegetation. Skyrim meanwhile looks like the fucking sahara

The faces looked shit and a lot of other things but the environments, skybox, sunset, etc. look good to this day

still looks worse faggot

No it doesn't, FAGGOT. Looks objectively better. And I say this as someone who played it on release, unlike you, who is cope-coasting off second-hand nostalgia you fake faggot fucking nigger zoomer.

og oblivion was the benchmark of graphics when it came out you fucking NEWFAG

I think Oblivion is the only game Bethesda has made that has a good amount of artistic value but I really don't appreciate this idea that it's technically impressive even for a 2006 game. PS2 games impress me a hell of a lot more.
Oblivion is like:

someone had fun making some speedtree textures

someone had fun with specular mapping and a bloom shader

someone made some nice skies

someone made no more than a handful of good building textures

If you copy and pasted this relatively small amount of work to any game you'd have a neat looking game. The rest of Oblivion though? It's fucking trash.

paid

you prove you're literally blind and retarded, you have no credibility

Skyrim meanwhile looks like the fucking sahara

It is supposed to be a tundra

You have no taste if you don’t like the wispy clouds and pink sunset of the original. The new brown garbage sucks ass

Brown and bloom is coming in vogue again.

Why the hell would people want to play Fallout with magic? Oblivion with guns is way better.
That doesn't mean much though since they both suck ass. The former sucks at sucking ass, but the latter sucks ass less and it massages my balls.

the graphics are clearly better but I don't understand why they make everything brown
they need to touch grass if they think outside looks like that

You weren't born yet. let alone benchmarking PCs.

vegan

Says the blind retard with no credibility. There are no specular maps on the sword, you fucking idiot. There is on the glass weaponry, but not steel for some idiotic reason. Now go goatse your stupid asshole, faggot.

remake of an already shit game that was generally hated here save for memes

defense force in every thread

You can't convince me there aren't Microsoft marketers in these threads.

morrowinds sky is GOAT and unrivaled to this day

but all of this okay because it's pink

correct, more specifically: it's okay because it forms a more cohesive and readable image. The pink says "this is sunset". The brown slurry in the remaster looks more like a wildfire. You wouldn't even be able to tell if the trees in the remaster were billboards, because you can't fucking see them.

TES fans are massive latent Toddsexuals and always end up defending Bethesda

you need to understand the difference between making fun of some aspects of a game (like oblivion's silly faces) and disliking the game
autists like you see someone making a meme of some NPC and they extrapolate it to universal hate

You might appreciate this
"game". I love its look.
youtube.com/watch?v=aUTRffFJACc

I do it for free.
The hate is discord manufactured by troons ripping their dicks off over a mod.

M-M-M-M-MUH BROWN

Oh no, the world isn't a particular shade of pink at this specific TOD setting, all is truly lost! Go kill yourself faggot, nobody loves you or cares about you, and it shows.

By the way, that's yellow, not brown, but you're a cancerous retard who doesn't know what he's talking about and is riddled with ADHD.

All the smoke from the oblivion gates obviously

It's made by the chinese and pajeets

morrowind has better skies than oblivion when we're being honest

Fun fact, brown is not real in video games. LCDs can't actually display brown, due to RGB. It's all yellow and your brain tricks you into thinking you are seeing brown.

>generally hated here save for memes

The remake doesn't even have the silly faces so it's even worse.

???

You're right about everything EXCEPT the compass. Making the compass small and putting it at the bottom of the screen makes it a tool for occasional orientation, while making it big and prominent near the top makes people stare at it and beeline to objectives instead of paying attention to the world and navigating it actively.

most lcds don't display yellow

That's not even silly. That's just wretched.

generally hated here

consolefags hate oblivion because they only ever played GTA san andreas and their brown third world midget brains couldn't comprehend gameplay beyond buying ammo at a gun store. I'm sure they were looking up cheat codes. My first memory of skyrim was seeing a kid play it at my friend's house and they were glitching the game to get max level and it had only been out for a few months

posts game from 6 years later

Every texture in the game has a specular map, he's wrong about that too. The billboard trees are better than the static shit in the demaster too.
Also overall the bottom just outright looks better too, regardless of the nitpicks.

Oblivion used to look better, now the remaster looks better since you can't use TruForm npatches any more.
Unless you're running old ATi hardware capable of TruForm you aren't even really playing oldblivion anyway.

ATi was literally the way Oblivion was meant to be played.

lol culture warriors crying "we always loved oblivion waaaaaaah"
no one cares about the internet era that you redditors were here for

How do the Khajits look? Surely they're spared from looking like potatoes.

correct, more specifically: it's okay because it forms a more cohesive and readable image.

You're such a disingenuous retarded liar and stupid dipshit, it's almost not even worth responding, but here we go. For starters, I can see them just fine, but perhaps that's because I'm not a blind fucking idiot.

Secondly;

The pink says "this is sunset"

If the only thing you can say positively about Oblivion is that "it has a nice sunset", then that's a point in favor of Oblivion Remastered, no the other way around.

You wouldn't even be able to tell if the trees in the remaster were billboards, because you can't fucking see them.

Huh, gee, I can see these trees just fine. You were saying?

Just play the game and you'll probably realize it rather than looking at some cherry picked screenshots meant to make Oblivion Remaster look bad.

You're an idiot. Brown is not a primary color and does not exist on the visible spectrum as a pure wavelength. Brown is a low-intensity orange—so it’s a mix of red and green, with low brightness, which LCD's are more than capable of doing, and have been doing. Wherever you learned that blatant misinformation from is retarded.

Another ""remaster"" using Unreal Engine that will become outdated and ugly in 2 years. Art direction is dead.

Every texture in the game has a specular map, he's wrong about that too.

No, it doesn't, and thank you for showing how amazingly stupid you are in that you have no idea what a specular map is, how they are used, or what they even look like, fucking retard.

Yes it does.

That's not brown, it's red and green. Your brain is interpreting it as brown, but it is not producing brown. Monitors cannot display anything except red, green and blue accurately.

Common paid shill tactic is to shit on how the original version of a game looks compared to the new one. Shills burn the most.

No, it doesn't, specular maps are applied selective, since a specular map is a grayscale (or sometimes RGB) texture that defines how much light a surface reflects and how sharp that reflection is. It wouldn't even make sense to apply specular maps to every single texture in the game, and it's how I know you have no idea what they are.

If it looks better despite those complaints, perhaps those things don't actually matter at all. What is the point of this "Nintendo hire this man" remake?

All these oblivion threads make me want to replay skyrimjob

The speculars were baked into every single normal map in the game and is probably the main reason why Oblivion looks like Oblivion and why people complained about the bloom.

The speculars were baked into every single normal map in the game and is probably the main reason why Oblivion looks like Oblivion and why people complained about the bloom.

ENTER

Here's what will happen. You will install Skyrim, install 400 mods, spend 6 hours fucking with the load order until it's just right, play through the intro, then uninstall it.

remake of an already shit game that was generally hated here save for memes

You're retarded. We memed it out of love and because it was so memorable. The lines

STOP RIGHT THERE CRMINAL SCUM!

and

I'VE FOUGHT MUDCRABS MORE FEARSOME THAN YOU!

are not just memeable, they are genuinely awesome, and basically, you're a retarded faggot.

Yes, it is producing brown. Stop regurgitating dumb youtube-short-slop misinformation funfacts.

I didn't play through the intro but a dozen times before I modded that out forever, it's definitely the worst thing about the game. Also removing dragons until you start the main quest is great, so you can walk 10 feet without getting mauled by an overgrown cliffracer.

why cant anons just be happy people are actually playing, enjoying and talking about this game they apparently like so much

People here don't actually like games.

*sigh* Where to even begin. So, first off, you're flatout wrong. Specular highlights (shininess/reflections) are usually controlled by separate specular maps or material properties, not baked into normal maps. If anything was “baked in,” it would be precomputed lighting or shading, not actual dynamic specular maps. Oblivion, using Gamebryo, had a simplified lighting model where artists sometimes faked lighting detail into diffuse or normal maps, but that’s not the same as baking speculars. The overall look is more the result of engine lighting choices and post-processing than anything to do with how specular was "baked."

This used to happen to me until one time about 3 years ago I actually played and I literally no lifed 100+ hours in a single week. Unironically one of my happiest memories

It isn't

*sigh*

Stopped reading here. You are an autistic retard babbling about things you know nothing about, and a faggot.

I also tried to replay daggerfall but got my ass handed to me by the rat

no bueno

Because remasters are cancer.

They do and you're an annoying dishonest shill

The only thing I hate about the oblivion remake is that it's 120GB I feel people don't talk about that as much and want to talk about how the game looks "worse" look I get it, it's not as bright or vibrant like the original and mods and reshaders shouldn't be a excuse on how to make it look better it should just look good from the start and it does in some case and doesn't on others but the real people here is this game shouldn't be fucking 120 GB. 50 maybe 75 or 80GB the highest but 120? They should be updating the game to bring this fucking number down as much as they can.

One of the popular ways of modding the game was to lower the specular setting so they weren't as bright.

:O

they should have left alone all of the art and just focused on the shaders and shit.
if they did that, you could port all of the old mods instantly making it a great remaster imo

Lmao the remaster fixed your most common talking point of the leveling
oblivion was better than morrowind when it released, was better than Skyrim when that released and even with a few elements graphically downgraded is still better than both today

Also, don't forget, only a year later, Crysis came out.

I get that’s it’s kind of annoying but who gives a shit? I have multiple 1TB+ SSDs and fiber internet it’s totally irrelevant how much space it takes

gets btfo

abandons the discussion

Many such cases.

Yea, because some textures had it, and others didn't. Big shocker.

Everyone makes fun of the bloom, blown out colors and overly blended low res textures for 2 whole decades

Suddenly the same people all miss them

hmmmm...

Nobody thinks this.

speculars were baked into every single normal map

youtube.com/watch?v=SuDqNLgVHv8

All of them had them. It's okay to be wrong.

Based.

The original Oblivion's pink-hued sunsets were unrivaled in beauty to this day.

Even GTA V had better pink-hued sunsets on the PS3.

This

Unironically I think it is a massive downgrade. The performance is absolutely terrible and the graphics need manual adjusting to look decent. But the new stat leveling system is inspired so it gets a pass.

It's one quick google search away you know.

Skin used diffuse maps, not specular.

How many people are fucking color blind?

Well yeah I can tell you’re an autistic manchild. You think that looks good because it looks like the illustrations you saw as a kid. Grow the Hell up autists!

All of them had them.

No, they didn't!

It's okay to be wrong.

Yes, it is! I'm glad you're coming to terms!

I don't play demakes

I bought the remaster, but seeing stuff like this makes me kind of regret it.

I hate myself for encouraging this shitty trend

Looks fine to me

Disingenuous to the extreme. Oblivion does not look like the bloom and brown shit people were talking about. And the bloom is only extreme on the console version. The PC had a superior HDR system that looked good.

he baked the speculars

It says the game used specular, normal, diffuse maps. It doesn't say that every single texture in the game had them you fucking moron. God you're stupid. Even worse, you somehow know how to use a computer.

Looks like Skyrim.

You should regret it and you are LITERALLY everything wrong with modern video games. You keep spending your money on the laziest shit possible which just encourages them to do it more.

If no one bought this remaster they would have attempted to do better next time. Now they'll certainly do even worse.

sorry but Anon Babbletards won't convince me oblivion looked better

They're a part of the normal maps. Does every Oblivion texture have a normal map? Yes? So what does that mean?

Wouldn't the laziest thing possible to be to re-release the game with no changes and re-sell it for $ 80?

retard finds out how pixels work

Amazing that you're somehow able to work a keyboard.

yeah it looks like a washed out 4k version of skyrim

nobody cares about your street shitter fetish tyrone

That would just be a port and they couldn't have done that because it's already on PC. They had to do the bare minimum that was viable to fool people into thinking it was worth a rebuy, and they did that, and millions of retards fell for it.

they're part of the normal maps

That's not how normal maps work. Normal maps encode surface orientation — how light should bounce off a surface to create the illusion of bumps and grooves. Hell, not even every texture in Oblivion HAS a normal map to begin with, and only has diffuse maps applied.

You're so hell-bent on being mentally handicapped, you've inadvertently made yourself one.

Show me an LCD producing brown light.

Original

obviously made by Americans who have experienced warm humid summers and vibrant greenery of a subtropical East coast climate and is filled that comfy soulful vibrancy.

Remaster

made by dreary Europoors everything is cold and dead looking, perpetually looks like its Autumn, no warmth or soul simply cold sterile realism

You are an autistic retard babbling about things you know nothing about, and a faggot.

Keeping crying, tranny.

This got a giggle out of me

So the bare minimum work was to remodel the entire game in a new engine, and retrofit the new engine to run on top of the old one? Sounds like a fuck load of work for the "bare minimum".
They could have just gone for the GTA approach and run everything though an AI upscaler and slapped a sale sticker on it.

says the retard babbling about things he knows nothing about, and is the most gloriously huge cock-sucking faggot of all time

It was to hire turd worlders to do those things, yes. You say it's a lot of work but not really. Or they wouldn't have done it.

They could have just gone for the GTA approach and run everything though an AI upscaler and slapped a sale sticker on it.

This is exactly the same kind of remaster, just Unreal Engine edition.

Wait...Just wait...Let's see how long it takes this anon to figure out how stupid of an argument this is.

I don’t like how unreal engine games look, it’s so sterile and corporate. I’ll stick to the original, thanks.

Singapore is very much not a third world. In fact, it's nicer than many European countries.

Did the PS5 version get a patch yet? Anyone know?

Okay Zhang.

LCDs can't produce brown

yes they can

show me an LCD producing brown

wow what a stupid argument

Take your pic.

inb4 "t-t-t-that's not actually brown!"

because all the assets are made in a sweat shop

Meant for:

Bethesda opened a feedback channel on their official discord, so if you want the OG color back or have other suggestions submit your feedback there
discord.gg/Sn6RpyBb

First of all, you replied to the wrong person. Second of all, It's not brown, it's red and green, with a hint of blue depending on the shade. It's not brown.
Show me an LCD that produces brown light.

It's probably because modern generations have never seen a night sky without light pollution before.

Frankly this is worse than them being lazy if it succeeds. This should have taken 2 years with like 30 people. Their team had hundreds and all the work was outsourced. Same reason starfield was shit.

I don't think they'll listen to any of those. Most of the suggestions there are unbelievably retarded. Or maybe they'll actually listen to the retarded ideas and make game ruining decisions, who knows

The only thing that ever looked bad in Oblivion was the characters beyond that the environments have always looked amazing, even today with zero mods they still look really nice imo.

bottom pic, gay boomer revisionism
top pic, peak

What infuriates me is just how fucking bullshit ""realism"" is considering most of it is based off of fucking COLOR GRADED HOLLYWOOD FILMS

your taste was off in 2006 and it is off now

Easily fixable with a reshade pack

They gave the game no mod support, which would let fans fix everything for free. Why would you think they will listen to the fans and fix the game for them?

Mods will fix it, don't you remember when skyrim was out and you fags called it washed out? of course you don't newfag

FUNFACT: anon, all percieved colors are a mixture of red, blue, and green, since our eyes have 3 types of cone cells, which are S, M, and L cones. S-cones (short wavelengths, ~blue), M-cones (medium wavelengths, ~green), and L-cones (long wavelengths, ~red). Your eyes are amazingly, somehow, designed to see colors just like they're displayed on an LCD!

It was a side-grade.

bethesda sloppa to bethesda sloppa with higher graphical fidelity.

The plan was always paid mods 6 months after release.

based, browns be seething

help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/69672

Imagine moving the goal posts so far that you come full circle into agreement with the original thing you were arguing against lol

I'm not arguing against it, you're just an idiot who doesn't understand how colors work.

NOOO PINK SUNSETS DON'T EXIST, IT'S NOT LIKE MY SUPER REALISTIC BROWN FILTERED HOLLYWOOD MOVIES!

But of course in this same game, you have an aurora going all night every fucking night

There are already 1,000 mods for the remaster but I bet they're almost all useless and bad. It was probably a big mistake offering money to poor people if they make mods.

it looks better than the remaster in a lot of ways

can you name any? no? didn't think so, it's ugly as fuck

Lighting, materials, spell effects, sound effects, animations(HOW?)

I will never play the original again just to spite Anon Babble

Distinct visual style.
Lush greenery. The way the grass and trees sway in the breeze or storms is evocative.
Distinct texture style that you cannot mistake for any other game.
Yeah, the faces suck, and the LOD unfortunately can't be extended, but until LOD kicks in, Oblivion looks great.

NOOOO, YELLOW SUNSETS DON'T EXIST, IT'S NOT LIKE MY SUPER HECKIN FANTASY SIMULATOR THAT I PRINTED OUT SCREENSHOTS OF AND BUTTPLUGGED MYSELF WITH!

But of course in this same game, you have grey muddy foggy scenes.

playing on the lowest settings at a resolution that hasn't been relevant in 30 years

Oblivion overall had good weather but the remaster doesn't. Somehow it gets the fog super wrong too, while Oblivion's fog was pretty nice.

Unfun Engine 5 default is good enough, ship it

Storms are great in original Oblivion. The sound design is amazing and the wind affects the foliage well.

That's the maximum resolution, without going into the text file to manually change it. You'd know that if you weren't such a fucking zoomer.

It's the fog that makes me cringe. Why does every modern game look like smog-filled LA?

God that looks so good. Maybe I'll dig out my dvds and reinstall.

lmfao

lmfao

lmfao

lmfao

true

I hope they remaster Morrowind next, I cannot wait for the reddit faggots to seethe when it comes out foggy like it's supposed to and doesn't have an infinite clear draw distance like their retarded graphic overhauls.

Yeah you can't criticise a good game that has obvious flaws, you're supposed to buy the product and shut the fuck up.

It's to hide low res level of detail

simply incredible pbr flora right here
just glowing under shadows

No? I was just playing the original game two weeks ago and I was able to run it at 4k through the launcher.

Bullshit, I played this game on a 7800 GTX back in the day at 1600x1200

But muh graphics

Only retards and morons care about this

that's the max resolution if you don't change it

so change it

also notice how you're trading clarity for some trees on the hills behind the city, unreal is such a bad engine. It takes shit from 2006 and makes it need a pentagon server to run at 60 fps

You're playing the steam version. On the original DVD release you'd buy in the store without DLC or updates it maxes out at 1600x1200

there is a difference between old fog and new fog
I will call new fog smog instead

You have 5 (five) minutes to explain how this is not an objective downgrade.

I am not an old = good contraritranny, I don't need to explain something to someone whose opinion is completely emotional and whose opinions are likely influenced by dysgenic traits such as nostalgia and fitting in with others on a pseudo culture created by contarians who have been saying "popular fun objectively better new game bad PLAY MORROWIND and Inject E" on Anon Babble for ages. Keep coping and seething, we will not be playing your old slop.

imagine spending 47 hours in a week playing a shitty demaster then defending it

UE3/4/5 have committed more crimes against video games than anyone or anything.

which would let fans fix everything for free

Not for console players

Good think i'm playing a great remaster instead and it defends itself by being objectively better.

99% of "mods" are reshade presets or .ini tweaks.

It has been some years since I played; but I'm pretty sure you're bullshitting and you can force high res and widescreen via the text file. I don't have it on Steam, only the disc version.

Is there a way to permanently filter/hide all the slop mods? Even with 1000 Unique downloads I have to wade through like 10 pages of slop to find anything,pic related are the only mods that I have found that actually improve gameplay and make it more immersive.

Well yeah you can edit the text file, but these days Oldblivion just outright supports 4k in the in-game menu.

About 30% of them are according to nexus. Still a considerable amount but there's no need to be disingenuous.

Skyblivion will have the better porn mods

The oblivion gates were the biggest downgrade, they looked way more imposing before with the fiery lines sticking out the sides, and the image of the other side looks too cartoony

unlimited equipment

unlimited potions

skeleton key

how do those make it more immersive, Anon?

I like the remaster but it isn't objectively better, it has a whole host of problems that the original didn't have. The comedic, weird faces of the original are now disgusting and nightmarish, although a lot of faces still look good in the remaster. The desaturated colours and brownish tint over everything arguably hinders the magical, fairytale quality of the original, where even if it was generic European countryside and forests, it looked unique. Also even though the trees and grass are more realistic in the remaster, they were far denser and better looking in my opinion in the original, that is something that has always held up over time. A lot of the reskinned armours simply do not look as good, the dark brotherhood set went from deep purple and dark brown to a lighter purple and a fucking, weird kind of grayish light brown, makes zero sense. There are many things the remaster does objectively better in my opinion and given it is a bit more stable it is obviously going to be the way to play the game eventually, in like half a year when it's more stable from patching and mods. But people acting like it is better in every way are completely retarded beyond any hope of recovery. Also they replaced the cliff racer singer's voice so I have placed a jihad on Virtuous.

I kinda remember a filter but I haven't used the site in a while and they made the UI worse recently.

They looked cool but that entire statement is just pure contrarianism.

bloom is equally as shit as volumetric fog

the new ones look like shit, it's like the demons souls remake

I have no idea why, but lewd mods seem better in Oblivion than Skyrim. Or mesh better with it.

Unlimited Equipment

While you could use the mod as a cheat mod to wear 10,000 rings, I only use it to canonically wear more rings, you have 10 fingers, and with a lot of my mods fancy magical rings are pretty hard to come by anyways and typically don't do anything game breaking with my other balance mods.

Unlimited potions

This just removes the limit on drinking 5 potions at once, again I have yet to find a scenario where this is immersion breaking or used it in a cheat way, especially since I have an alchemy overhaul that rebalances how potions work and makes all of them work over time anyways.

Skeleton key

The skeleton key vanilla is already broken and requires you to get it via a quest, all that mod does is allow you to level up your security skill while you have it since there's an oversight that isn't in some of the other games where if you have an item that increases your stats you can't level up said stats, despite the fact that if said stats were already leveled up they'd be limit broke.

Its at least 50% non mods, ini/reshade/character presets/autohotkey scripts shit like that

No, its my honest opinion, new ones are dogshit, im enjoying the remaster otherwise

It's just an unironically better looking game where it matters.

it's pretty good alot of stuff looks better. stuff is worse too ofc. art style changed but its same game and if u liked oblivion youll enjoy playing thru it even if u decide to wait for mod to change the pallete or models.

bottom looks like shit, fucking stupid nostalgia boomers

I think that THOUGH

the snowy region isn't dense with vegetation

wow i wonder why retard

youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1P-AEaEp8

Oblivion was one of the ugliest games to exist

buys junk and then regrets it later

you should kys yourself

You can't get 60 fps on that shitty de-make without looking like a ps1 game on your fucking 5090. It's shit, and they need to go back to the drawing board to get it to at least get a stable 60 on the best consumer gpu.

snowy region

Retconned in TESV. Skyrim hasn’t been a “snowy” region since Oblivion lore.

you have 10 fingers

What an argument. Why don't you wear 10 necklaces? People do that in real life. Rings are limited for balance you fucking moron and you are cheating by overstepping this boundary.

And who gives a fuck?

Does singapore have a smog problem or something

This is a sun setting in west. Protip: there's no fog at sunset what the fuck

didn't even add anything worth while like dual weilding

But making the leveling system work like Skyrim was super fucking necessary because people hate role playing in their RPGs

Fuck this demaster

???
I have a 4080

I notice your lack of a FPS tracker, or even a fps counter, and your fucking ps1 graphics, you have lower texture resolutions than the original dipshit.

But making the leveling system not dogshit was super fucking necessary because people hate dogshit progression systems in their RPGs

Yes.

The real cause is just due to what type of fantasy is popular at times of launch and how it impacted the artstyle bethesda chose
- Morrowind came out when it was popular for fantasy stuff a darker tone, but with tons of fantastical elements like weird fauna/flora and thus its artstyle matched with a lot of browns/greys amongst weird shit
- Original Oblivion came out in peak Lord of the rings popularity and thus its artstyle was bright and colourful and extremely 'middle earth' type artstyle with creatures to match
- Skyrim came out when Viking popularity was hitting its peak and thus its artstyle has lots of greys and whites and tons of things had a 'viking-like' coat of paint
- currently with the oblivion remaster, 'medieval/grounded' fantasy is now popular so they toned the fuck down with the bright colours/lighting to make it look less fantastical

FPS counter is in the top right. I would never play a game with a tracker overlay normally, but which one do you recommend? I will see what it's doing.

FUCKING
FOG
EVERYWHERE
GOD
DAMMIT

Is this satisfactory?

Apparently you, since you brought it up.
Todd’s not sending his best.

I brought up what?

Nexus just hit over 1000 mods for Oblivion Remastered so far.

That Skyrim is supposed to be a snowy region .
It’s like I’m talking to an 84 year old with alzheimers here. Make sure you don’t go near any tables with sharp corners.

I agree. even the OG was a silly jankfest

fpwp

And how does that relate to shit that nobody gives a fuck st all, lore? Are you being retarded or purpose or do I need to drag you through the mud again so you'll understand nobody gives 2 ducks about lore you cretin.

thank you, BethINI, very cool

And how does that relate to shit that nobody gives a fuck st all, lore?

You thought to mention it and thought it was some big gotcha, so clearly you do give a fuck.

stop spending money on this shit, bro
if you must consoom new product, just pirate

I mentioned a fact. You mention a useless tidbit.

I mentioned a fact.

Incorrect. You mentioned lore that hasn't been canon for two decades. I corrected you.

Settings are ultra btw. You're being very quiet

nah, objective downgrade

No I mentioned a fact not a lore.
Go fuck yourself with your lore bullshit nobody gives 2 fucks.

Go fuck yourself with your lore bullshit nobody gives 2 fucks.

Except you apparently, because you brought it up.
Try consulting your local radiologist for an MRI scan, I think you might have early onset dementia.

it definitely does, es evidenced by the fact you can mod it today to make it look respectable, even on a potato (my machine). the biggest issue was the character faces, HDR/bloom lighting, and draw distance/LOD issues, most of which can be mitigated these days.

If I keep repeating it, it will become true

Lol, lmao even
Lorefags fear lorelets

I was only pretending to be retarded

Gothic 3 looked better than oblivion in every aspect.
Mass effect came out a year later. Oblivion didn't look bad but it didn't look amazing even in its own category.

Why the fuck did they have to make it all brown and ugly?

because the playerbase is brown and ugly now

He officially lost it

still only pretending

it didnt fix the level scaling or power scaling of the player/creatures. Only really awful shitters actually cared about minmaxing the leveling system. They made it easier for the remaster, big woop.

all colors are a meme

eye killing lods

grass draw distance of 5 meters

eat shit

looks like there might be an issue with your graphics card on the bottom image there, op. Make sure it's seated correctly.

too bright, unironically soulless
it's taste though who cares

all the asspained replies from rose tinted goggled faggots

i humbly request that you keep this up any time they post their faggy comparisons of this vomit ridden game of yore

Just mod the original game
Fuck the transmastered version

Fpbp, sure the graphics looked good for the time, despite the horrible faces, but the combat has always been bad in Bethesda games. It was true in Daggerfall, it was true in Morrowind, and it was also true in Oblivion. Only mods can make those games bearable to play. Fuck the shills who pretend otherwise.

the graphics looked good for the time

tranime pic

I will not waste my time replying to a brainrot like you.

What an argument. Why don't you wear 10 necklaces?

Enchanted items in universe absorb magical energy from your, and your soul in universe functions in a humanoid fashion, which is why you cannot layer for example two shirts, theoretically you wouldn't be able to have enchanted armor over an enchanted shirt either, rings on the other hand are harnessing the part of your soul from each individual finger, we also know from how magical energy is absorbed it's centralized from the piece of equipment which is why you'd also theoretically be able to wear gloves, and and wristbands becuase the enchantment on those would take the part of your soul from that part of your body as energy.

You cannot spam necklaces because you have one neck, it would degrade the enchantments in lore or even risk instability.

As I said I am also playing with other mods that heavily rebalance the game, and even some of my own personal rulesets and tweaks to make sure I fit within the universe aswell, even as such an overpowered character such as The Hero of Kvatch.

Running into an enchanted ring or even buying one is extremely rare in my playthrough and with my playstyle, you're right in vanilla it would be overpowered but it's not in my game.

Said the guy defending dim orange as brown

Just dropping in to say that UE5 is an abysmal dogshit engine

you can mod this shit out if you have a pc.
hell you can pirate this remastered slop too, no denuvo.

But it's different in my game

Sounds like a cope of a cheater

damn having no taste for 20+ years really sucks

Okay so you were just baiting the entire time, here's your last (You)

was 14yo when morrowind came out

played other rpgs before but morrowind did it for me and I became hooked, spend houndered hours in it.

oblivion comes out, now 18yo

i remember that first thing that came to everyone mind was how shit bethesda modelers were, the character models/faces were morbid even back then.

still gave it a go, I played it for around 15h, dropped it and never looked back

It was shit, like the magic was gone. It didnt have that spark that morrowind had.
Im still puzzled why people buy bethesda shit in 2025. Bethesda is done for, its like the overexploited mine that is still operating because people expect more gems but there arent any. The veins are long mined, its more of the heritage park now.
All of their new releases since +10y were shit, dont know how retarded can people be, or how far does their mental gymnastics take them, but its really disgrace of a company.
I have nothing against people enjoying stuff, just take a notice that bethesda have literal disney tier approach. Its a feces golem at this point, after fallouts, numerous rereleases of their ip and that space game that noone remembers already, they should just vanish into oblivion. The single thing that keeps them afloat is the fact that the game market is so bad that they still find customers.

Bethesda is done for,

they just sold millions of copies of a dogshit remaster
they are anything but over

this is the biggest cope in the thread so far. Pure, distilled nostalgiafaggotry.

based

Okay. Oblivion isn't a tolkien-esque fantasyland either by that logic so you'd better start screaming about that. Kill yourself.

I don't find oblivion a bad game in terms of graphics because the artstyle aged very well imo. However I remember noticing the same things as you did when I first played oblivion in 2022 or so. I wish older games had better lod sliders. they usually only allow doubling the render distance at which the first lod level starts removing grass/tree detail etc...

looks like dogshit

1080p

guess we know why you're actually playing the original version

I had Morrowind on the xbox but never got into it because it seemed so shit compared to Arx Fatalis (it was).

literally wasted his time replying to him

Man zoomeroids are something else

if you think the remaster is better there you are genuinely a shit eater
youtube.com/shorts/CFc3t4LIJJs

BWO
BWO
BWO!!!!!!!

The environments looked good. The characters were horrible. What's wrong with those statements?

The remastered one is objectively better.

You really are not helping your case here, take off the rose tinted goggles and put on the prescribed glasses that have been collecting dust on your counter.

nice, fished a (You) and kept this thread alive. Remaster is not good.

It just says a lot about the state of the industry. This remaster isn't even needed to begin with, original Oblivion is still completely playable on pc and it has the benefit of nearly two decades worth of mods FOR FREE.

But I'm a console player!

LOL. LMAO.

think that oblivion didn't looked amazing at the time

call me a zoomer

not only an actual zoomer but anime brainrot on top of it.

didn't looked

You're esl therefore you lose the argument.

You're right about everything exept for the hud. I preffered it over the new one.

BASED SHIT ON THOSE OBLIVINERDS

Modern games are so fucking ugly. Outside of the really faces Oblivion had, the game looks better than most games released today. There are very obvious flaws like the textures and objects from far away are obviously very low res. If you look at a field from a distance the grass stops rendering and you just see a low res ground texture, but at least you can fucking see.
With new games it's just anti soul gas hiding the low draw distances. Post processing up the ass. No colors. Bloom. Gaytracing taking up 99% of the processing power while giving you a worse looking image.

Original is better though

mountains look better

trees look better and have better animations even if they're more simple

fog is better

colors are better

sword holding animation looks better

the sword itself somehow looks better

sky looks better

sun looks better

grass somehow looks better since it's not smudgy as shit

can actually see stuff that does draw since it's not blurred to shit

UI(especially menus) looks better

Based

This is the Spyro remake debacle all over again except people never learned so their acting like the demake has any reason to exist.

FPBP, I have no justification for hating it other than I personally believe that the story is poor, the gameplay is worse, and the fact that you ever even considered defending a Bethesda title shows you are not a being worth conversing with.

An idiot admires complexity. A genius admires simplicity. You are creaming yourself over worthless shiny effects like a dumb bird. Effects that ultimately combine into horrendous brown uninspired visual vomit. Original Oblivion had vastly inferior tech and looks superior because it has more than one color in its palette. Visual clarity is a long lost art, because game dev is now filled with mouthbreathing retards like yourself who only care for new shiny tech and have no clue about art direction. Beauty does not come from 4k textures of 99999 gorillion polygon models. You can neither spot nor create beauty because you are a subhuman and you have no soul.

this
nevertheless OP is right
the remaster is a souless asset flip minimal effort nostalgia bait cashgrab slop

UE5 games aren't complex so much as they're inconsistent. That's what makes them fundamentally look terrible most of the time.

spells effects don't fit the game

PBR isn't tweaked to be physically baseb it's just shit and makes everything look like mud and most things ignore the lights in the scenes

animations look like they're from 5 different games

enemy models are generic as shit

color filters drown out all art

It takes skill and finesse to create sophistication. It takes almost nothing but a crash course in design to create something visually appealing enough that the viewer's imagination fills in the rest. I just have the capacity to appreciate work, whereas you just care about what "looks good" to you. Neither of us is wrong, the difference is that I care and you don't.

are you really arguing this generic unreal engine game made by people in sweatshops was skillfully made? that it's sophisticated because they hit the "lumen on" button? look at how fucking broken the SSR is, they can't even do that right

As always, oblivion with upscaled textures, oblivion character overhaul and a reshade will always be superior to the new unreal slop

I didntmeant it as done for, bankrupt.
I meant it as a empty glass. They dont have any substance in them, nothing original and its been like this since quite awhile.

a bold statement
but a correct one

You are not fooling anyone by pretending that it takes any kind of effort or skill to slap together trademark disgusting Unreal Slop visuals.

It takes almost nothing but a crash course in design to create something visually appealing enough

It's a tell tale sign of someone who has never delved into any kind of visual artistry. "It's easy bro trust me" - he says, yet when he tries it himself, he can't produce anything worthwhile. It's simple and easy! Yet modern developers fail at it spectacularly. Curios!

I just have the capacity to appreciate work

No you don't. You do not appreciate deliberate conscious design decisions and limitations of older tech of older games. You only appreciate new shiny things. You have a mind of a child.

no they dont

yes and no, taa blur sucks but they still looked like shit

yes, would be a resounding no if the fog was tweakable (it might be)

colorslop

no

jesus fuck no

yes

no

no

yes, TAA sucks

both look like shit

shit opinions to the point I don't believe you're being honest
This game looks fucking terrible, full stop. You have to cherry pick extremely hard to make it look decent and it's almost always worse than the 20 year old dated as fuck original just because it has no defined art style like that game did.

This game looks fucking terrible, full stop. You have to cherry pick extremely hard to make it look decent

but enough about Oldblivion

defined art style

just say it looks like shit, because it does. And it did back then, too.

zoomers cant comprehend SOVL, it cant be transferred into games even if they have the best graphics