This game took 9 months to make. Are games really that much harder to make now?
This game took 9 months to make. Are games really that much harder to make now?
It was just a copy-paste of GTA 3 since it was supposed to be an expansion pack.
And the back-half of the game shows just how rushed and unfocused it was. Vice City Stories was superior.
Vice City Stories was superior
Very. Sent the 3D era off on a high note.
It was carried by the soundtrack and the 80s vibe. If it came out today, you'd say it was pandering to reddit nostalgists.
That's because it was a lazy slop rehashing of assets. There were no long cutscenes and the dialogue was minimal and straight to the point. Like who wants a GTA game like that? We need long cutscenes and lots and lots of talking about everything and everyone. Non-stop dialogue and cutscenes is what makes a good GTA game and that takes a lot of time to do.
White people aren't allowed to make games anymore
it reused assets therefore bad
It's autistic purists like this that end up adding unnecessary dev time to already bloated games. Majora's Mask was 90% reused assets from Ocarina of Time but not only was it a superior game but also one of the greatest games in Nintendo's history. Asset reuse can save substantially on development time, but because of autistic nitpickers like you who screech and shit your adult diapers over a one-off building or grass texture looking familiar (many of which infest the industry as well), every game now has to be rebuilt from scratch.
Graphicsfags need to be holocausted.
Asset flip. Just shows how much they could get away with by basically just throwing a few new textures on things.
They got away with it because the game was good. We didn't need something new and inventive. We needed more of the same with some new features and that's exactly what we got.
There are more unique assets and object placement in the block around Michael's house in GTAV than there are in the entirety of this game.
Game dev is FAR more intensive now. We can totally argue whether or not it should be, though. I personally do not think so. But we tend to mock the "I want smaller, shorter, cheaper to make games" crowd around here.
This is the only gta game i've beaten. Therefore it is the best
Why hasn't an indie or AA studio made a low poly GTA like yet?
How hard would it honestly be to do? You can find generic city, car, and character assets that would blend well enough together. How hard would it be to slap together a VC sized world, off the shelf character controller, and then spend a year or so making story missions to tie it together?
You can't tell me this is somehow insurmountable for a modern dev team with modern engines. Normies would eat it up.
Because people would ask themselves why play that over a low poly GTA.
I don't care how many "Filtered!!!!!!1" posts you reply to me with, MM's timeloop gimmick was retarded and I'm glad they never did that shit ever again.
novelty. Setting it in a new place and decade would be enough I imagine. It's not like the market is flooded with GTA clones.
Is this sarcasm? I can’t tell if this is sarcasm.
Yeah, but free roam is gonna blend into the many open world/sandbox indies that can allow for similar third-person-shooter affairs. We have that new Schedule drug peddling game, there's top-down overhead GTA clones like Shakedown Hawaii, Retro City Rampage and tons of shitty San Andreas clones you just haven't seen yet.
Plus you have a solid decade of AA GTA clones like Scarface, Mafia, Saints Row, Godfather, AND Bully, in a current market full of BotW clones, AND a post Red Dead basedciety.
Radio & Music are half of the soul of GTA and there's no Lazlow equivalent working on indie games right now.
Theres more ploygons in one eyelash on a rabbit in read dead 2 than on every game on the ps2 combined.
most games took 1-2 years back then and were 10x better than the slop of today
Can install blinds
No curtains though
I wouldn't be offended by the mattress on the floor if it wasn't soaked through with sweat.
Agreed 100%, If MM didn't had that shit It would be legit a great game
that other anon is right on everything else.
Only nazi incel chuds don't realize just how important exposition in GTA is. It's like 100% the reason why anyone even started to care about the series so there's nothing more important than the dialogue and cutscenes. They must be as in-depth as possible. Without that all you're left with is a cringe sandbox of random missions and chaos. What kind of woman wants to play that???
I like you imply I meant it was bad that they asset flipped. I was just saying thats why it was done in 9 months and that its crazy that we could basically play the same game twice and enjoy it as a fresh experience because some new textures and a different soundtrack.
ah yeah that's true. Licensing music would probably be expensive as fuck.
tons of shitty San Andreas clones
can you name a few? I don't think your other examples give the same feeling of 3D GTA games - massive shootouts and explosions, silly emergent gameplay, and a nailing the style and pop music of the setting so well it's fun to just drive around listening to the radio and looking at the assets.
Other open worlds are set in remote settings we can't personally connect with as well, are missing the music of the era or are set in an era before radio or a fantasy world, or don't have the shootout and explosions. At best you sling spells at like 10 enemies. Most open sloppas also don't have interesting vehicles or vehicles at all. Cars, planes, helicopters, bikes, and boats are a huge part of a GTA like.
anon 1 makes objective statement
anon 2 cant help but fellate developer and goes into long winded projecting rant and trying to paint anon 1 as having said something else
you should kill yourself
Yeah asset reuse is something I don't have a problem with, I just had a problem with him saying MM is one of the greatest games in Nintendo's history.
I'm talking iOS mobile garbage, but again, why rely on clones when you have-
Crackdown 1 and 2 (if you can Xenia it), Bully, Red Dead, GUN, Scarface, Godfather, Mafia 1 and 2, Saints Row 1-3, Sleeping Dogs, True Crime games, Simpsons Hit and Run, Prototype (kinda), LA Noire, Cyber Punk , Just Cause 1-4, Mercenaries 1 and 2, Red Faction Guerilla, and Miami Vice.
PLUS the alt GTA games you probably haven't played or replayed for some time.
The focus on the online killed GTA.
We could have San Fierro and Las Venturas as DLC in GTA V.
Never forget that.
killed it for the players
but for rockstar it made their already big cash cow even more huge
They turned an open world driving game series into The Sims.
Didn't imply that at all.
rip off depalma
kids don't get it
20 years later kids still dont get it
fuck zoomers and whoever else
GTA 6 dev time
6 years of preproduction
1 Year of dev time
1 year of polish
I wonder why the game industry is in a decline
And whose fault is it?
People need to stop blaming R* for the current estate of the GTA franchise and point fingers to the real guilty the CONSUMER.
If people without self control didn't have access to disposable income we would be on GTAVII by now, R* is just reacting to what the market has told them.
are you implying no one has ever drawn a comparison between Scarface and Vice City?
I know, it's awful.
I thought that the Scarface parallel was a given.
I mean, come on the fucking Garcia's mansion, Tommy's mannerisms, it was fucking Tony Montana down to a T, the only thing missing is the sister.
Asset missions are fun tho. Also mission payouts aren't ridiculously inflated like in GTA 3 so you actually have to be careful with your money
its also rips off carlito's way, body double, and all the 80s deplama movies. its worse than duke with carpenter.
funny how vice city is an asset flip and yet it is still the most distinctive looking game in the series.
GTA 3 has a fantastic atmosphere
Games were done by white people, now it's all jeets ruining it and AI trying to save it because paying whites for a job well done is tremendously antisemitic in modern America.
it wasn't because of inflated payouts, its because you actually needed money to progress the game
GTA3 you only have 2 missions tied to cash iirc, bomb da base and the final mission, besides that the only uses for cash are weapons and the spray shop
vice city you actively have to save cash because you need to buy the assets, otherwise you get stuck
There's Schedule I