Have you already apologized to him in Master Duel?
Have you already apologized to him in Master Duel?
I genuinely do not understand why the MD team seem hell bent on making the most ridiculous combos be allowed in MD and only MD. How does ladder benefit from shit like SE FS being around?
MD is the highest power yugioh format and that's a good thing. Its more fun to play with good cards instead of having them constantly banned to sell new product like the tcg.
Do I play Fusion Lacrima and Necroquip together? What are the lines?
Its more fun to play with good cards
Yeah I sure enjoy having one or two helmet decks dominating and making playing any other decks a shit experience.
I don't think there's a single thing SEFS can do on MD it can't do on the OCG. We're just lacking the better decks that are available on paper right now that's why SEFS feels crazy.
This is the last SEFS that topped a tournament on the OCG. They have more consistencity hits, I'll concede that any time.
None of the decks in paper right now are stronger than the current SEFS deck available in MD. You can see in your own image that this deck has like 5 less starters because every single one if limited meanwhile we have +2 Diabell +1 Bonfire +1 Engraver +2 Tract.
The ceiling is the same for both decks but that one if nowhere near the level of the current one which eats handtraps alive and just continues to extend.
How is being the highest power format a good thing when it makes the entire format single player combos?
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1900 beatstick fucker that you can normal summon in the worst case and trample over some stuff like a fucking S:P or something
wind attribute so it plays around bystials
if you normal summoned beryl you can lordly lode luster dragon and link both into hieratic seal at the end of the turn, prompting your beryl to come back at your next standby
In my experience, yes. It depends really on what you are doing. Necroquip can draw an extra card and sometimes it's worth doing that if you don't think you're going to need engraver's resurrection efect while setting up your combo.
For example: You can requiem into lacrima dump engraver, then equip requiem into lacrima, contact fuse necroquip, and so something like discard a lubellion to get a bystial, and draw an extra card with necroquip's effect. Then if you want to fuse into a desirae (or a lacrima to make an appollousa, whatever) instead of just slapping your engraver and them on a caesar you can still resurrect engraver with its effect spinning back a light fiend and make sequence, fusing into whatever you need. You should have enough materials on the graveyard to make either lacrima (and slap both fiendsmiths into a rank 6, and use your sequence for something else) or make a desirae and call it a day.
Do you go first or second?
purple backrow?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING TRAP TRANNIES CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE STOP THE FLOODSTUNTROL
blue backrow that works exactly like purple but you don't even need to wait next turn?
:)
Unironically explain this double standard without sounding mad or deflecting
First
Jinzo said traps are gay. Are you gay?
blue
spells are green...
blue backrow
I don't mind this retarded bait if I get to see miku shaking those giant jugs every thread.
replying to obvious bait
Same, it's only fair to respond to bait if they post sex
still waiting for maryss
WITHOUT sounding mad or deflecting
it's okay and based when blue-eyes boomers do it, Konami recently said so
Hmm, pretty decent pulls for 7000 gemmies, I play PUNK, water, and Fiendsmith so I've gotten all I need outside 2 more shadow squads.
I think it's time to unban these
The Earth fairies did nothing wrong, however all Tear cards should be banned.
It's time to ban (You)
What a specific selection of cards...
The Ishizus were being abused in slop piles for like 2 months before Tear released. They're just not healthy cards.
No. The one thing my deck can do is set up target protection and the fact every Fiendsmith card is allowed to just ignore that is bullshit.
The one thing my deck can do is set up target protection
Your deck is a pet deck from 2011?
If Halq needed 2 cryston monsters including 1 tuner as it's materials would it still be banned?
not playing until monarch support.
I don't know but I wouldn't be too surprised. Crystrons are good with the support that should be out very soon.
Those slop piles were fun and not particularly meta breaking. Plus Grass is only at one now, so they would be even weaker than they were before.
The shufflers are pretty cancer though, they deserve to both be banned.
just errata it to say "summon a tuner monster (except mecha phantom beast o-lion)" put it straight back at 3
just play eternal card game instead
campaign
PvE gauntlet mode
multiplayer casual or ranked
draft against AI or other players
monthly draft tournament
incredibly generous f2p model
pinnacle of digital-only CCGs
WITHOUT sounding mad, like a shill or deflecting
A little later than taht but yeah.
Bro that's not your pet, that's a decomposed dog carcass.
FREE HER
I prefer atlanteansa and mermails statuing me over birds any day.
fag
I wouldn't even play statue in mermail except for the fact that this deck has no answer to roach/fuwa/nibiru
There's no minimal commitment endboard you can make to pass on without giving them too many draws so you just have to play for the FTK board
Purrelyly deluxe mate when?
Holy kek
Is this your god?
Conversely
I AM KAIBOR THE ANIMU
Fuwa is going to rise a lot now that everyone stopped pretending BEWD is good
everyone goes out of their way to make sure they get the finisher animation
Based. Hopefully Konami takes note that people like them and adds more.
...
please kill yourself already or tell us where you live
As we imagined the charmies are maxx c but more balanced and they're still good enough to be played in bo1 bot not so ubiquitous that you slap them in every fucking deck. That's GOOD.
"the charmies"
plural
This we need animations for each of the sky strikers finishing someone
Fuwalos is functionally the same as Maxx C if the best deck is combo but because people got tilted dropping it only to see Beryl+Drillbeam pass they started cutting it.
I'm hoping they add animations to the alt arts that are missing them(and also the N/R variants) when they bring the bundle back next year.
Konami starts printing decks that can avoid Maxx C, just like how they make shit set from deck now to avoid Ash/Droll
Overall comboniggery goes down
Based roach served his purpose
It's not just a matter of getting tilted, you will actually lose games to Primite control because you didn't have a card that actually did anything other than making them play more conservatively.
The key is to "make a deal" with your opponent.
Don't shotgun Fuwalos before they summon link Spirit. Instead wait until they have materials to synchro.
They want to get Spirit Dragon out, and they'll think it's worth it to give you the 1 draw (going +0).
They might even take the challenge because they figure "I'm almost done anyway" and give you like 3+ draws.
is that gungrave???
picrel
That, and they're SHIT going first, and your opponent can still play around them by setting up something on the board without providing a single draw (or giving them the minimum amount of draws to set up the bare minimum) and so forth. So the card has a weakness which makes well designed, but it's not absurdly broken and an autoinclude which is what everyone and their mother feared.
Not really because then they released Crimson Tears and now every single match is combo again. BEWD was never the best deck, it was just popular.
fiendsmith isn't combo
I honestly think master duel should be the weakest format so that duels are more dynamic than did you go first or did you open with with maxx c droll whatever what someone combo for 45 minutes
and they're SHIT going first
You don't need the help going 1st because if you go 1st and combo you win
your opponent can still play around them by setting up something on the board without providing a single draw
which means the card basically interrupted 90% of their combo and ended their turn early, that's the value of like 3 other handtraps
These are fake weaknesses, it does the same thing as Maxx C against most decks.
My brother in christ, you can go first, set up your retarded board, pass and fire maxx c and then the little chance your opponent had of fighting back basically goes away. You can't do that with the charmies.
Nobody on ladder is playing Fiendsmith control, it's all SE FS or Yubel FS or WF FS. The cards are 10x better in a combo shell than coping with primite control.
That's the part that was better balanced for sure, but it's really not that insanely important. Again if you go 1st and have a board you're already winning 90% of games, having Maxx C dropped on you going 2nd into that board is infuriating but you were probably gonna lose most of those games anyway.
It's not a reason to not play the card at least. It makes going 2nd better, going 2nd is what needs the help, there's no reason for every deck to not run 3.
Master Duel is how they advertise the OCG/TCG.
No one's gonna sit and watch fat acne-ridden 30 year-olds pushing papers around with their sausage fingers.
But people WILL watch shorts/reels of duels, with full-on animations of cool monsters and music.
They WANT people to see the big combos so they can get excited and try them out.
Maxx C is usually a sub-par hand trap to back up a built board. Just fully overwhelming thing by having an actual interrupting hand trap is usually better than praying you can draw into a hand trap that matters before they can OTK.
It feels fucking awful when they do it to you but it doesn't actually matter that often.
Konami is burning YGO for everything it's worth they'll be happy to stop managing it at all. They do it with everything. Anybody still playing or paying is a subhuman.
It makes going 2nd better, going 2nd is what needs the help, there's no reason for every deck to not run 3.
You're saying that but the stats show the card is going down in popularity hard so there has to be a reason to not run 3 in every deck. I don't see people not runing Maxx C because the opponents are beryl drillbeam passing. That's exactly what'd happen if you Maxx c them too isn't it? The rest of my points stand still, if I'm playing white forest and I get maxx c'd, I'm setting and passing and hoping for the best. If fuwalos'd I can set up an omni by breaking even (+1 draw) AND set up some plays (including special summons from my hand/backrow/graveyard if I'm using the millenium engine or toy box!) instead of giving my opponent like 3 cards to get there.
You know, what the fuck, even if it's not insanely important the use case going first does. If I'm going first and my deck doesn't pitch for cost and I see a fuwalos in my hand I say "shit, dead card". If I see a Maxx C I know it's either a one two punch, or it's eating one of my opponent's ash blossoms on the way back that's going to make my life easier in case my effects are ash-able in some capacity. At the end of the day it's the sum of small grievances that makes fuwalos weaker than maxx c and not an autoinclude.
I still think that if the weaknesses were fake it'd have a maxx c% of inclusion rate on every single deck and it does not. Why doesn't if it's that good?
It doesn't have the same play rate because the stats come MD players, who are bad at the game mostly, and not playing optimally. They've been conditioned to run 3 Maxx C for years, while Fuwa is new. Even if your WF deck makes an omni under Fuwa it goes card neutral and caused you to make 1 disruption instead of 5. That's more value than every other handtrap not named Maxx C.
It doesn't matter if Fuwa is dead going 1st, but people will see the handful of times where it is or their opponent ignores it with Beryl and they decide that FEELS bad so they cut it, when all the other times it ends a turn early or entirely are taken for granted.
I like this crappy trap deck
the stats come MD players, who are bad at the game mostly
Fair point but impossible to measure right now. The only thing I can add to that is that only 2 from the top 10 challenger players last season were using fuwalos at all and both were playing the same deck (memento). I guess these players' opinion may be worth something as they're probably better at playing this shit than you (and definitely me)
Time will prove you right (or wrong) and that's as far as it goes. Agree to disagree.
I was hoping just Adra and MAYBE a 1-of would be UR. But with its current price I think I'd rather wait for Odion. Atlantean+Agnumday should've tanked another couple UR hits so Argostar and PUNK could've been cheaper.
I should add for the fairness of the discussion that from the 9 available lists on the top 10 (top 1 didn't share), 7 of them were playing maxx c at the max number of available copies. Two mad lads certainly know something I don't.
would it have killed them to atleast give this piece of shit an animation?
they should give animations to cards people don't use
No they shouldn't.
fucked up how none of fusions got an animation IMO, desirae and rex look way cooler than engraver
why do people like fiendsmith for the "health" of the game? to me, it seems like another engine to tack on making solitaire last longer.
It's unhealthy when used in combo but healthy when used in low to the ground decks. MD is experiencing it really bad right now because the devs have let combo run rampant, this is the most powerful combo format the game has seen in years. TCG/OCG have seen it used much more healthily for this reason.
why would you want an animation for a card no one summons? are you the one who had them give water enchantress an animation instead of gryphon?
It’s just unhealthy, period. It’s unhealthy in TCG, it’s unhealthy in OCG, it’s unhealthy in MD.
People say that about everything that lets their non-meta decks pretend to be a meta deck for part of the game.
oh man, every deck can special Fenrir search Fenrir? This is such a healthy card for the game if every deck becomes 10% Kashtira!
There's some truth in that it lets non-meta decks extend through hand traps better while improving their consistency, but also it lets everything extend their combos from the extra deck and just raises endboard ceilings in stupid ways and lets you insulate your main combo.
I'd be ok with it if there were a fucking best of 3 format so I can pretend there's some agency outside of opener luck
no dumbass, and it was made generic on purpose as it was always intended to be generic goodstuff. same with stuff like verte and the knightmare cards
Vaalmonica sissy sets up spell/trap negate, bagooska and nibs me
Still managed to end on PEP and new XYZ
Damn P.U.N.K with new support is a pretty serviceable deck.
Not prehitting beatrice gave fiendsmith a horrible reputation and that's the way the engine shouldn't be used. That month snake eyes fiendsmith was literally fucking unstoppable. Besides that the engine is a tool that evens out the playing field and isn't doing anything absurdly egregious by itself.
Fiendsmith doesn't punish you for playing handtraps, the basic mechanism to fighting back going second. If anything they're vulnerable to them, unlike unicorn and fenrir which gets slammed first fucking thing on the turn without giving you a window to respond.
Ragnazero
no idea how to play punk but that deck seems to be pure gas now extending past all interruptions assuming no bricks
Me too. It's surprisingly fun.
Yeah, honestly felt the same way. Adra being UR was manageable, but having to shell for multiple URs across different archetypes just to make one deck viable is brutal. The pricing really doesn't make sense with how little longevity some of these engines end up having. Argostar and PUNK should be much cheaper considering the state of combo right now. Might just wait like you said—Odion support might shake things up in a better direction anyway.
Looking forward to slopping them up with Goblins once the Xyz comes to MD.
Even with the extra starters SEFS gets buck broken by Ryzeal and Maliss. That's why they aren't hitting it further.
sengejin stupid ass into doom dragon and cross sheep
Kinda nice
That is not even remotely true. SE as it is right now is leagues above where Ryzeal/Maliss are. It has the highest ceiling and most ability to play through handtraps. Powercreep isn't an ever rising scale, sometimes we go backwards or sideways like how post-Tear the best decks are still worse than full power Tear.
resolving the field spell already felt like resolving maxx c on your own turn, with the new support and e-tele finally back to 3 where it belongs you're basically unstoppable.
MD is the highest power yugioh format and that's a good thing
No, that's why MD's format is a fucking joke. You don't ban things and you have people STILL playing fucking Kashtira and sacking players with nonsense hands every now and then that mirror full power (minus Diablosis, but you people never saw what real full power Kash is like) because they never really addressed the deck's power and actually unhit it.
the 2 argostars players i met somehow open both terrortop and that's 10!
i play paleo
they get to pop all my set 5 in a single turn
bros... why do my opponents keep opening the god hand?
heart of le cards
Paleo
Deserved
Ni-ha-ha
You tell him goy, how dare people play decks that aren't currently in the shop.
is virtual world playable with punk?
Is there a way to get a link back onto this after using the trap?
I kinda like it but it's obviously just daruma bait and using the trap would just cause it to lose it's tower status.
The summoning condition isn't too bad for super poly I guess.
I wouldn't build the deck to win the game on the spot if my opponent's stopped fighting back
Shut up faggot. You're like every other combo stun player from Vaylantz to Drytron who claimed they'd stop trying to win turn one if konami just gave them even more. Then konami did give Drytron more and every disingenuous rat ignored it because the new cards didn't work with the ftk strat.
In one of my recent games I was ashed and Droll'd, and I still set up FEVER and PEP.
Being able to turn my Jam Drive into a monster negate&destroy is reeeeeally nice.
gaylord
Labrynth eating good
I think I'm going to uninstall the game. I can't deal with this any more.
halq is too strong to unban, it can easily combo in an apo and an ip
Halq but zombie locked when?
I am sure everyone and their mothers uses Theia and R-Genex in their decks.
Why are you pretending people thought those were good choices to receive animations?
Update - I have uninstalled.
SE as it is right now is leagues above where Ryzeal/Maliss are.
Why do retarded people keep saying this? Did an eceleb say it and now it's just accepted as truth?
When Crossover Breakers dropped in OCG Ryzeal was immediately about on par with Snake Eyes, and Snake Eyes had access to 3 Poplar, 3 Diabell, 2 Bonfire and FUCKING BEATRICE.
Last game before diamond
Finally win coin toss
About to win
Power surge, lose by DC
I hate this retarded fucking game.
You mean like Snake Eyes, you fucking moron? I sure am glad this deck is allowed to run free. And every deck that crutches on Baronne and Apollusa for that matter. Nice game
blue eyes nigger plays through 4 handtraps like nothing because he just so happened to have every single combo starter in his hand just like every other bewdtranny
how convenient
The link 2 i believe can target it to add onto it.
Skill difference retard you should kneel to your opponent
Why does D barrier have the ability to affect rituals. I thought it was only to work against ED cards.
I haven't played a single match against Memento ever since its support released, seems like everyone dropped the deck at once.
I know you retards deepthroat apo or terrahertz as t1 endboard piece for malice but what about ouroboros when you can basically trigger him at command plus your shit getting banished is a plus
Takes too much brainpower to grind ladder with for most people
For the same reason it affects pendulums which are also main deck monsters
Be thankful, it's an obnoxious combo masturbation deck that's not even that great for how long you have to take each turn.
Blue-Eyes plays through handtraps very well in general. It's breakers that really fuck this deck in the ass. Too bad we play in an OCG-like format where breakers are even more worthless than TCG and also Bo1 so we can't side any backrow hate.
no links though