Is it possible to create a truly philisophical game? Can video games be considered art if they can't be philisophical? TLoU is pure shit btw. Just thought I'd get that out of the way.
Is it possible to create a truly philisophical game...
You mean visual novel?
I mean video game.
tlou? You didn't play nier or any other games known for being philisophical?
the answer is because its funny
Epicurus didn't say any of that.
Is it possible? yes. Has someone done so? No
Also, yes as "art" is just something made by a human... for some reason.
Why would a Greek philosopher from 300 years before Jesus was even born be making christian theological arguments
guys, look at my chart. LIFE IS MEANINGLESS. Dont believe in anything. Rick and Morty TOLD me so
if you don't believe in my jewish expansion rulebook then YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING
hit me, what do you believe in then?
I mean, gods have been a thing since we discovered fire, though im not sure about the "free will" part.
I believe you're a retard.
Philosophy is when you're a pedophile and come up with a bunch of excuses about why it's cool, actually. The most famous philosophers are greek and french for a reason.
Fragments of attributable teachings of Epicurus are famously sparse but of the few that we can definitely say belong to him are the dialogues where he in no uncertain terms says that while he firmly believes in the exisitence of the Greek pantheon, they have no direct hand in human affairs and that your own personal guilt is the only thing that actually holds you accountable.
And he certainly had nothing to say about satan.
no option for "god created the world for humans and let them free roam and create their own laws and rules"
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what a retarded image. "Free will except you can't do xyz" is as free as speech is in north korea. ypu are free to speak as long as your opinions toe the line of the parties ideologies. such a shining example of free speech that totally doesn't conflict at all with the word free. only a fedora tipper could be so retarded.
every game is philosophical because every game is about nihilism everything is about nihilism because there is no meaning in any thing whatsoever
yes, play rain world
I don't want to spoil much, but there's a lot of weird cosmology, philosophy, and metaphysics in the lore with ludonarrative consonance.
because early christian theologians ripped off greek monotheists
That whole flowchart and the thought experiment behind it is pointless because the phrase "god works in mysterious ways" completely covers it.
toddler walks out the front door
meth head sees him
stomps him into the ground
toddler barely survives
gets arrested and convicted
20 years later is reunited with the boy he assaulted
he forgives him
in prison does a complete 180
has an epiphany
starts a cult
leads his people to the light of god
gathers even more followers
improves the lives of millions
And that "plan" goes all the way to the end of eternity so nobody can ever know if a horrible thing happening might be good in the long run.
"Free will except you can't do xyz" is as free as speech is in north korea.
so god doesn't care about free will?
appeal to ignorance is not an argument
god be like
yeah, your molestation needed to happen because a thousand years later it butterfly effect'd itself into a net positive, you can't argue with results
WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN
A ridiculous demand. What am I supposed to tell you? Whether I believe the sky is blue? I guess you like the bible because you can just say some braindead response like "i believe in da jesus" even though you and I both know no two christians have the same views on the contents of the bible.
the phrase "god works in mysterious ways" completely covers it.
Dumb graph. You cant have free will without some cunts becoming evil
I think "we can't know his plan" is the easiest explanation there is. It worked for billions of people for two thousand years.
The easiest explanation is someone wrote a fantasy book and you believe it's real
He asked you a simple question dude, you couldve just admitted it and said nothing.
No Donny these men are cowards.
I believe in reality. Not fantasy. Cue your next cope.
What is reality?
It's the shadow puppets on the wall
You are a simpleton
wHAt iS ReAliTy?
Okay pseud.
yes. The Line is edgy tryhard philosophical and Nier Automata is gamer meta philosophical
It's the shadow puppets on the wall!!!
Ok simpleton, thanks for letting us know you never got beyond high school physics
i hope you know that "reality is one of the most difficult things to grasp, moreso now than ever. a lot of philosophers dedicated their time to examine it
Why would you want a game to teach you philosophy? I get an engaging and emotionally provocative narrative, but philosophically stimulating? Just take a bloody course and do away with this pseudo-intellectual posturing.
philosophy is all fiction
there's no reason philosophy from a 300 year old book would necessarily be more entertaining
Youre expecting too much from someone who would defend this "epicurean" paradox while calling others a pseud. He probably has a bumpersticker that says he BELIEVES in science. The modern day simpleton has only switched out which men in white coats they idolize, they dont actually want to think about anything complicated.
the epicurean paradox is wrong because... because... actually you're a basedjak!
Does that guy mean Zeus?
Zeus is pretty much an amoral bastard so that's an easy answer.
love nutting in humans
hate titans
simple as
kek
science is the real religion!
lel how many pseud cliches are you going to work through
He can comprehend God with mere human logic
He knows what reality and consciousess is better than the creator of both
Im sure our best and brightest are just dying to learn what you know so they can stop wondering what the answers are, this anon holds the keys, he knows what reality is!
God doesnt owe you an explanation, seethe about it.
What are you talking about? Philosophy texts are necessarily non-fiction. If you want to contemplate and think about metaphysics, epistemology, aesthetics, and ontology, you shouldn't go to a video-game for that. That's retarded.
The process of science is the same as the npcs that blindly sign up for mrna experimental gene therapy because tv man in labcoats told them it's 100% effective
Have you kept up to date on your covid boosters yet? If not why dont you believe in science?
Internet atheists have never recovered
inb4 reddit spaghetti monster
sorry that you haven't heard this before, but metaphysics is fiction
Funnily enough, one of the most philosophical games of all time effortlessly refutes that particular line of reasoning.
Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?
yes, I can
it's not my fault you can't. Don't project your own willful ignorance on me
kek
Agnostichads stay winning (maybe)
Man's unfailing capacity to believe what he prefers to be true rather than what the evidence shows to be likely and possible has always astounded me. We long for a caring Universe which will save us from our childish mistakes, and in the face of mountains of evidence to the contrary we will pin all our hopes on the slimmest of doubts. God has not been proven not to exist, therefore he must exist.
Academician Prokhor Zakharov, "For I Have Tasted The Fruit"
Anon, literally everything can be viewed philosophically. What do you mean by a truly philosophical game?
Wow didnt know we had the all time winner of the nobel prize in physics here on our anime forum, howd u get so smaht anon?
It's da shadow puppetz on da wall!
Go get em champ ;_; dont ever let nobody tell you different
Reminder that Zakharov relents and concedes his philosophy was wrong as the Ascent to Transcendence approaches, and admits that Deirdre was right all along.
That doesn't even make sense. Peak pseud.