So assuming this is actually successful in revitalizing the series, would you rather they follow how the story went originally or would you prefer they did something new? I know I'd rather something else over what they did with 4 and 5 at the least.
Halo CE UE5 Remake 2 Electric Boogaloo
At this point if they managed to make something even half decent that would be a massive achievement.
They really should just disband the studio. They can't make campaigns, they can't make multiplayer. Their business model is making 3d models and textures and selling them for a third of the price of a full game. They'd be more profitable without videogames.
Looks like ai slop
I’m at the same spot with Halo as I am with Star Wars; I was a fanatic when I was younger, noticed a dip in quality around the point when new management took over (both by women, incidentally), kept telling myself “THIS time they’ll get it right”, only to be disappointed again and again, and finally gave up and lost all interest in the brand when it became clear that while they love playing lip service to improving, the will just isn’t there.
I find it comedic that Microsoft’s solution to Halo’s woes was to fire 343’s management, replace them with a fat black HR representative, and change the name of the studio.
the developers are just too incompetent and autistic too make a good game
they are all halo fans so they all have this 'idea' for a game and force it in
when halo infinite was flopping the developers spent all of their time making prototypes for the next one instead of supporting the multiplayer
they need to fire everyone and license the IP to an eastern european studio who will actually work hard on it
AHHHHH UE5 SLOP
revitalizing the series
just stop
Can't wait to play it on playstation
NEEDS MORE PURPLE
They're most likely getting remakes of Halo CE-3 out the way to get the Covenant and Flood out the way so they can finish the story of the Banished and introduce new factions and concepts such as the Endless, The Criterion, The Grand Edict, and Offensive Bias. They'll replace Steve Downes and Jen Taylor with AI because they're old and because of SAG-AFTA, thus allowing them to keep making mainline Master Chief game with his AI, Cortana.
remakes of Halo CE-3
How many times can you remake this shit
Halo has no relation to Star Slop, go play Destiny if you want Star Slop video game edition.
its 343i (or Halo Studios now)
Theyll insert a sassy black woman to yell the chief througout every mission and have a larger story arc than anyone. they dont want to make a 90s action flick inspired by cool movies. they want some fucking touchy feely "am i machine or am i monster" story while jamming in as much bullshit side characters as possible. also dont forget they cant fully support a military group without making them super evil. get ready for Captain Keyes or some other guy to bomb innocent grunt babies
They never remade it in the first place, the stupid bitch that ran 343I before had third parties make shitty remasters because those dumbasses thought they could make theirs and Bungie's lore work, it didn't now the new man, is going the whole way through giving 2D Metroid-style remakes for the Halo trilogy meaning, full-blown remakes from the ground up, not that remastered shit. Expect old, current, and new weapons, vehicles, grenades, and enemies, along with new levels, cut levels, and extended levels, expect these to be the first games without Steve and Jen, expect this to fully integrate Microsoft's lore into Halo eliminating Bungie's lore completely while also having modern gameplay.
I don't want it.
I just want to see if they double down on those copy paste corridor levels.
Nah, it's most likely just going to be the Human-Covenant War getting shoved in the background while Master Chief is getting put forward.
Going by Infinite, I can see this remake having an art style closer to the original over that Anniversary shit.
At all
It's not gonna be successful and I can't believe people are falling for it
Halo 4
MCC
Halo 5
Halo Infinite
They've fucked up 4 times in a row over the past 14 YEARS. AND YOU STILL GAVE RETARDS ACTING LIKE THE NEXT ONE WILL BE GOOD I CAN'T UNDERSTAND
Sorry bud you're thinking of the Halo 4 team; this is the team of devs purchased/rented from the brown part of the world on contract rounds that are cycled out every 3-6 months resulting in the core team being unable to work on the engine they dumped $500,000,000USD~/5+ years into because they have zero experience or staff on hand to train devs resulting in having to move your next project to Unreal Engine 5's much more child/third-worlder-friendly embrace.
Given that it's a man running the show now and they're focusing on gameplay over pushing character driven stories, chances are, it'll be successful since they'll add things like Scarab battles to Halo CE, possibly extend the Warthog Run, add many new cool things to the game, and with everything they add in the trilogy remake, they'll add to future games that take place after Infinite. I want Warthog Runs and Scarab battles back. Warthog Runs should be standard.
just release MCC on ps5, a remaster is pointless
Rate this aesthetic
Given that it's a man running the show now
how many times will you people fall for the "no we swear, the next Halo game will be good!" meme
The metal tower things ruin it imp
halo fans
When has 343 ever been compromised of Halo fans?
crazy how it looks worse than CE
a man running the show now
cool they got the guy that headed halo 5's updates and his snowbunny in charge that's wicked awesome man good for you
Halo on PS5 Day 1 Buy
After Halo 5, unironically.
I am not touching anything made with UE5 again at this point. Every single game made with it runs, looks, and plays like absolute fucking dogshit. It is the single worst game engine ever made, bar none
I'm sure the people that decided to move to UE5 so that they don't have to train experienced developers and focus on retaining staff for longer than 4 months have only the best intentions in mind for the future of the Halo franchise.
they are all halo fans
using unreal which doesn't even have working physics
It is the single worst game engine ever made
I dunno, some of Todd's engines might be up there
Everything you know and love WILL be remade in unreal engine. Unreal engine will be the ONLY game engine. The old versions will be delisted and removed from your account. The streamers and shills we pay WILL rate them higher than the originals. You LOST.
brutal
Halo Wars 2 sucked
and removed from your account
Has this ever happened to any game? I still have all of my old versions of everything
they're going to take Combat Evolved, add a bunch of random extra side characters like early Lasky and Palmer mentions, and then hint at the Endless and Didact and Medicant Bias all being actors at play in the background while trying to make the cutscenes more like Halo 5's "epic movie nature"
Why does Master Chief look a bit wide in the midsection? Is he entering Spartan middle age?
they are all halo fans
who dumped blam! 2.0 AKA slipspace despite funneling 10 years and more than half a billion dollars into it
despite the engine being perfectly fine with an existing infrastructure for multiplayer, a Forge mode that absolutely shits on MCC and Reach's and allows custom coding and events, a back catalog of armor from previous games, etc.
saar please to tha halo 33 lobby i slayer :()
They reused the model directly from Infinite and then fucked up some of the sub-coloring because of how slapped in he was. And he was already a bit chunky in the original Combat Evolved compared to later games.
They should reveal that Halo is a black genderfluid man
thirdies on a 3 month rental modeled him you have to understand that's a very very very very short amount of time for someone to work in downtown delhi when it's 95F and your lenovo thinkpad has shut down for the 10th time this hour
they already did a remake
make a NEW fucking GOOD game
i DON'T NEED to play a less charming resident evil 4
take the elements you want to add, and make NEW and GOOD game around it
the heaxogn pillars look cheap in contrast with the rest
the floating tower in the middle looks like a minecraft gag
It looks like they had issues translating the design to the latest iteration of the game's engine, even some of the pre-5 armor looks a bit odd in Infinite.
NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CE model arms were as long as legs maybe so they could get massive guns in them without it looking off, also 343 has an obsession with making the armor look like shit and overdesinging the black portions so all you get is a lot of visual noise that makes the whole armor set look bulkier and blander
This chick has nothing to do with the creation of Halo, you trannies should do more research instead of sounding like a braindead normie, get your reddit ass off this website, faggot.
Bungie doesn't even know how to work their own engine and their incompetent asses got rid of their earlier Destiny 2 campaigns. This is a proven why everyone is just saying fuck it and moving to Unreal Engine. Only a few can make it work and 343I never understood Bungie's terrible engine as Bungie never helped with, they outright refused to help them with it. Bonnie Ross, being a woman, was always a retard.
It's mostly because they're literally outsourcing their modeling to a bunch of random people and then have a skeleton crew handling things internally. They did fix Chief's Mark-VI coloring on his arms/visor for the Green Man coating after enough people pointed out how badly they fucked that up, but he's still got a weird-looking head and a fucked up torso coverage pad that's sticking out and gets colored in ways it shouldn't be.
Funny enough, the Mark-VI was modeled with the Halo Reach helmet in mind, so someone at 343 had enough time to cook up an entirely alternate head model to swap onto it and no one knows who.
he thinks nobody knowing how to use in house engines is because the engines suck and not because only actual morons are working for game developers
I really don't think so. They are jank, but they don't make games unplayable garbage that run at 10 fps
It's the Infinite Mark V but the pouches were shifted to his side. Fake right wingers though feel it's some woke change proving that they never touched Infinite.
Why would anybody willingly play infinite? It's a mod of a mod of a mod
Bungie should know how to work their own engine, 343 should have never used the engine for Halo 4 going forward. They're both retards. How do you not know how to use the engine you created?
Bungie doesn't exist anymore. The people that went to work for activision were all executives. All the code monkeys quit. The industry, in large part thanks to consoles, has chased all the competent programmers out of the industry in order to try and maximize profits. The change to unreal is them absolutely refusing to train people to use an in house engine
Why is Master Chief getting cucked in his own show?
Then don't make dumbass comments about something that got ported directly from Infinite to Unreal. This is why I bully normies, I know they're a bunch a fake ass right wingers brainwashed by the Marxist on the left. Half the time I feel like beating them with a hammer every time they jump on social media to talk. Good thing is that people are actually starting to see through their BS and knowing they're a small minority with a big mouth.
How do you not know how to use the engine you created?
Software eng for a megacorp here, it's actually pretty simple. Constant churn means the people using the internal tools are not the people that built them. As a result, knowing anything at all about the internals is a form of job security.
Bungie are still using a modified version of the Blam! engine though, I can see there being actual difficulty in bringing content forward from game updates that are at this point 7 years old, especially with almost none of your key directing staff that were working on the game at launch being in your employ. You are pointing fingers at a woman instead of the snake Pete Parsons who legitimately clawed the studio up and fed it to Microsoft to appease his former bosses at M$ marketing, all so he could buy another shitty American sports car.
Most of the staff familiar with the core workings of the engine left after Jason's meddling, well into the launch of the 2nd Destiny game. You would do well to read up on the history of the company. It's nice to call women fucking stupid but don't let the wrong person take the fall for something many years in the making by a fucking marketing executive that wanted a cushy position.
That's why I'm happy the AAA industry has collapsed and why I'm going to be elated when the home console industry goes with it. Gaming only needs Nintendo and PC. Microsoft should have stayed in PC gaming, Sony should have never entered to begin with.
So, in simple terms, growing bigger means getting worse, having too much money is not better but worse?
have a model from H2 Anniversary that wasn't even that old
have the opportunity to tweak and update it, among other things
even just go ask Blur or whoever for the video assets to tone down for a game thing
nah lets outsource it to some guy, he totally won't fuck it up
I think a broken ring is cool in concept, but dragging it for the open world ruins it.
When I stepped out of the pelican for the second mission, the level itself felt shattered and woulded. Collapsed hallways and the rumbling of uncontrolled electric discharge. It was great.
Then, you exit the underground out to the surface and, what do you see? Just fucking lazy hexagon pillars for miles.
Halo Infinite is another victim of OW blandness.
Because a lot of 343 employees were contracted, and were only allowed to work for 6 months or something. So guess what? Every 6 or so months you had to rotate people out, then take however long to train them on this brand new engine.
Does that sound retarded to you? Like that might be a dumb fucking thing to do? It's exactly what they did.
So now they're giving up and using the industry standard. Literal incompetence of the highest degree.
Yes. Growth is followed by rot.
Bonnie is a feminist that led to many things that went wrong with Halo, her not being involved with Infinite was actually beneficial for the singleplayer campaign. Things can only look up with a man leading the company. Women can't lead, this is known throughout history.
I don't think it's the infinite model. You can't even see his neck and there's barely and change from the armor to the black material in his midsection. It looks like they filled out the places between the armor
18 months, but that's not just 343. That's Microsoft in general unless you're part of a sub-division like Activision-Blizzard that has its own hiring policies. Still, it isn't enough to learn shit worth a damn before you're out the door and whoever comes after you has no time to learn shit themselves either.
Blur is a money sink, Microsoft is tired of Xbox blowing their money for failed projects.
Sony should've never created the PS2
The console with the highest number of games on it to ever exist, shouldn't exist?
You Nintendies are something the fuck else. Do you even like anything other than Zelda and Pokemon?
That's not an excuse, Bonnie promised the team for many years and generations that they were dropping Blam! for something that would work, they never did because she didn't actually want to, Pier came in and pulled the trigger, like a man always has to do because women are too incompetent to do it.
It's Infinite's model
The armor is from infinite but the underlying "suit" has been bulked up to look more like armor, which flies in the face of bungie's art direction
They and Microsoft completely destroyed gaming and brought in normie trash. Sony forgot about PlayStation's history while Microsoft did the same for Xbox. Gaming is finally returning to its roots and soon normies will have no other choice but to fuck off and get out. Nintendo was right, Nintendo are always right. Movieshit doesn't belong in video games.
Don't know Looks about the same except for the color.
The people working on Halo nowadays are too atheist to properly recreate Halo's story without following the original games 1:1. They'll just make another shitty space opera like their last 3 titles.
This post was concerning the development of Destiny and Bungie Studios at the time. Pete Parsons was involved in breaking up the studio and spearheading the break-off from Microsoft leading to the creation of 343 and their consulting role.
Sorry man, no Pete =/= no Bonnie
You wouldn't have Bonnie without Pete. Man created your problem friend :)
Look at his neck compared to infinite, you don't even see his neck because they bulked up the suit
Get off your high horse. You're a normie yourself if you had any involvement with mainstream gaming at any point. Most of us are normies pretending we're special, when the reality is there's not a single thing special about any of us for posting on Anon Babble. This isn't about gatekeeping, no true scotsman, holier than thou shit, it's all just corporatism that overtakes every market and industry. Simple as.
We wouldn't have a Bonnie Ross, if Bonnie didn't volunteer to be the George Lucas of Halo, funny how that worked given what happened to Star Wars. She became leader because she answered a Halo book question, no, not a game question, a book question, it was over before it even began.
Something seems off about this and I'm really not sure what.
I never liked when something went big and every time something went popular, I had a feeling I wasn't going to like it very much. At least the popular stuff in the past had some merit, now people can scream something will be good even if it looks like it's going to be shit. Word to mouth is dead.
You might be right, my eyes may be playing tricks on me.
all your favorite games will get UE5 slop demakes
Don't care. Halo ended at CE.
Actually if Pete didn't push to have the internal team sign really shitty contracts with his original M$ bosses, edge out 3 founders over the course of a couple of years, move to have the company bow to their corporate masters and constantly stifle opinions on the buyouts you probably would not have Bonnie, on top of the other egregious shit he did while working as a Microsoft Middleman reporting to his masters.
But your take is pretty good too.
No, offense, but Halo CE-3 needed remakes, real remakes. It's hard going back to the old games. Halo is one of the few series I will advocate for full remakes on.
You're retarded
Halo 4 was overhated. It is nowhere as bad as people like to pretend it is
Halo 5 should have been a Republic Comando-style spin-off game.
Infinite is good, but it only having one biome made it look unfinished. MP is great now.
MCC is great now, but yeah as someone who bought an Xbone to play it, it was unbelievably broken at launch
Halo has had a few stepbacks, but even the worst Halo, which i think is Reach, the games are still better than 90% of all shooters out there. It just feels like the series dropped in quality because it went from dropping 3 10s in a row to some 7s and 8s.
You're retarded, everyone that plays old Halo now says it's slow as shit, just another reason why it's dead. There's only a vocal minority of shitters defending it. PC shooters fans are now having a field day shitting on it because now there is no fight back. Halo can't survive being slow. Infinite's singleplayer is the way. Halo can't be the trilogy, it can't copy COD, it needs to be Infinite, nothing more.
A remake isn't going to fix the speed at which Halo plays, anon. "Slow" my ass. You don't actually play this shit.
Halo 4 was overhated. It is nowhere as bad as people like to pretend it is
Halo 4 hate is deserved
>Halo 5 should have been a Republic Comando-style spin-off game.
Halo 5 should have been Halo, bookshit should stay in the books, who even were this Blue Team?
Infinite is good, but it only having one biome made it look unfinished. MP is great now.
Can't argue with the campaign, I liked it but it was clearly missing things. Halo MP is dead.
MCC is great now, but yeah as someone who bought an Xbone to play it, it was unbelievably broken at launch
MCC is still broken, it will never surpass the originals.
anti-soul gas in the BG
UE5 strikes again!
Infinite already fixed the speed problem of Halo without needing to be COD and all those generic shooters that came before Doom 2016. I also been playing Halo since the first game but even I have to call it out now after playing faster games and Infinite, I just can't go back.
No, offense, but Halo CE-3 needed remakes, real remakes. It's hard going back to the old games. Halo is one of the few series I will advocate for full remakes on.
Your series is dated. Your Anniversaries failed and flopped. Mentally ill Content Creators can's save it just like they can't save Bungie's failed Marathon reboot.
This shit is just becoming uncomfortable at this point.
I mean in totality, these attempts to recapture a moment in time over and over again. We already have Halo 1. Had some good aspects, the controls were a big leap forward. Had some bad aspects like repition and padding. But it's overall, a good game, id argue. A big cultural event in 2001, awesome time to game and lots of good memories.
But 2001 is over, and Halo already exists. I'm not saying "move on", at all. It's a classic, enjoy all the Halo multiplayer you want. But Halo already exists.
I feel this is an actual cultural sickness.
Halo & Star Wars
For a long time I thought its downfall was more in line with that of Sonic.
A successful original trilogy and a good spin off.
You could argue that either Knuckles Chaotix or S&K are equal to Halo 3: ODST.
Then Halo 4 came along and while it was not great, the game compensated itself with sheer content similar to Sonic Adventure. Halo 5 even gave Master Chief his very own Black doppelganger a la Shadow.
However Halo 5 is the point where it loses its resemblance to Sonic because Halo 5 has some of the worst design choices ever seen in a FPS and furthermore the time gap between Halo 4 and 5 was massive. In that same time span Sega had published Heroes and several successful GBA and DS games.
Afterwards Halo Wars 2 happened and it was a great game. For a brief period of time HW2 was the face of the franchise but MS simply stop caring.
Halo 5 was the starting point where 343i felt more confident to mess up the lore similar to Star Wars, push narratives but not at the same degree and then finally a Halo TV show was made and it sucked so bad but it is hard to compare it to Star Wars because that's still worse but by no means the Halo Tv show was any good.
Infinite was an attempt to revive the franchise only for to drop the ball again.
While similarly mismanaged I don't think there's that much bad blood between the fanbase and the IP just yet but time is the reason why the franchise feels largely forgotten. So it is not the same as Star Wars which is constantly whored out and brutally raped, simply put, Halo barely shows up.
What's funny is that MS has been adamant to kill all attempt to revitalize the Ip or make it relevant:
The did not push Master Chief in Smash Bros Ultimate which I bet it was the character Sakurai was expecting instead of fucking Jack Black and MS cancelled the crossover with Doom. Even the cross promotion with Counter Strike 2 was a niche thing.
Infinite isn't really any faster, at all, than any Halo game before it. I'd argue the two failed games 4 and 5 were faster across the board. Infinite "trimmed the fat" with flow for movement, but grappleshotting everywhere is not what Halo is about. You sound like an ADHD person that just can't tolerate games with anything less than Titanfall speeds and CoD crack addict slide-hopping.
But Infinite's singleplayer shits on Halo 4's and 5's sideways. You can't be considered a Halo fan if you like Halo 4's or 5's campaigns. Halo is a gameplay-focused series, not a story/character-focused one.
It'd be cool if the guys that left did their own start up and made independent games.
Infinite isn't really any faster, at all, than any Halo game before it. I'd argue the two failed games 4 and 5 were faster across the board. Infinite "trimmed the fat" with flow for movement, but grappleshotting everywhere is not what Halo is about. You sound like an ADHD person that just can't tolerate games with anything less than Titanfall speeds and CoD crack addict slide-hopping.
Halo 4 and 5 were COD games playing dress up, Infinite finally added to Halo's sandbox after years of neglect. Halo is a series like Doom in which the only way to modernize it is to take the original game and add some modern elements to it, something Infinite finally did. Halo 4 and 5 were not the way.
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Good one, kidd.
Also weren't we supposed to get a Fable game about nowish?
Where the fuck is it?
That would be great.
Halo is a series like Doom in which the only way to modernize it is to take the original game and add some modern elements to it, something Infinite finally did. Halo 4 and 5 were not the way.
And yet you're arguing for Remakes of CE through 3 to modernize them because they're "too slow", despite the fact that the deliberate pacing of 2 and 3 are why they're beloved. CE is a whole can of worms of its own as the first game wearing in the formula, but you can't have it both ways when 343 branded is still in charge here.
Most of the people the industry has been hemorrhaging for 20 years just went to be actual software engineers for actual companies
I can't imagine being employed at a billion dollar company and all the executives were actual asshats that got promotions because they were the only people left from the original staff
They're beloved online, let's get that straight and right, back then, people hated Halo 2 and Halo 3 was considered inferior to Halo CE. Reddit is not the majority and never were. People need to stop acting like online community had any sway. Halo 2 and 3 were loved by those who kept playing multiplayer, outside these little bubbles the only characters known in Halo are Master Chief and Cortana, no one else. CE is considered one of the greatest games ever made, something neither Halo 2 or 3 received during their heyday, this massive praise for 2 and 3 is new and was created by a small community, not the people outside of that. Halo CE-3 need remakes for updates and for Halo 2 and 3 to finally be fixed and be made to be real sequels to the better Halo CE.
What the everliving fuck are you even talking about? What schizophrenic bullshit is even garbling onto your screen from your keyboard, this revisionist garbage you're attempting to crop up to justify your argument? People had their faults with 2 or 3, but CE was always the weakest link in the chain, Reddit didn't exist back then and has nothing to do with any of that. The fuck is wrong with you to go spewing these sorts of lies?
They need to kill the IP flat out. Who's to say any other studio wont rape Halo's legacy even harder? Kill the IP and release the source code for MCC and Infinite. Valve did it with TF2. The modders have shown that they can at least make something slightly better. Eldewrito 0.6 was the entire reason MCC came to PC sooner than intended.
What you're stating is revisionist. Your delusional ass still believes Halo 2 and 3 live on in the Broken Chief Collection when no one even plays that shit. Halo was beaten years ago and not even Microsoft believes in its multiplayer now. Everything about Halo's praise post-CE was fake, made up by a bunch of noobies that came to the series late. CE was always the strongest in the series and considered the best, 2 was the first push towards mainstream shit and failed at that for being unfinished trash made for soccer moms. You simply love Halo 2 and 3 because YOU grew up with them, nothing more.
they should copy Sony's dumb decisions as to why Sony will be forced to stop making hardware because they have no identity like Nintendo
Yeah, become Sony further, that should help Xbox.
I agree with that sentiment to a degree.
Infinite sucks just as bad because we return to the core issue with 343i: Their level design is abysmal.
I have no idea why since 343i does not have any one team working in a game.
The way it works is that they chew through multitudes of developers to the point several anons and redditors worked in the game but they were not allowed to do jackshit.
Some of them post in threads like these and can collaborate with what I am telling you.
Now, since I know for a fact those grumpy old men at Anon Babble can design levels worthy of a cacoaward and have mastered level design to a degree that their shitposts wads are enjoyable...what the fuck happened in Halo?
Even a redditor could copy paste a level from Half Life or Call of Duty and that is still better level design than that of any modern Halo and 343i level design is consistently shitty. We are talking about mostly unpopulated spaces where enemies simply pop-in with no consideration or reason. Vast areas in 343i games go unused, so you simply walk from monster closet to monster closet and for Halo 5 you can just rush through and skip most of the game.
If I go easy on Halo 4 is for a few reasons:
-It was graphically impressive for a Xbox 360 game to the point it should had been made a Xbox One release title.
No one really wanted another Halo for that system at that point much like how nobody asked for Gears Judgement and the Xbone was starved for exclusives.
-The music is okay.
Still nowhere near as good as Marty O'Donnell's work. Marty was the SOVL of the franchise. Currently Doom The Dark Ages was also hindered by the lost of Id main composer Mick Gordon. It is a noticeable loss.
-Story holds up.
Halo 5 and Infinite are much worse. The issue is everything that came later and 343i killing off the Didact but not really.
Somehow, the Didact has returned....fucking hell.
-It's short
It sucks but at least not for long and I kind of like Midnight as a level.
-Cortana is hot
Infinite's development was a complete mess, I honestly shocked that it turned out better than 4 and 5 so significantly.
Game
Game, UE5 sloppa remake
and considered the best
NTA but by whom?
The Library is consistently shit on as a garbage level.
As cool as Assault on the Control Room and Two Betrayals are as levels...it is the same level but mirrored.
Tell me your favorite part of any Keyes mission (Parks & Recreation / Keyes)
And you are talking to someone who beat Halo CE on LASO.
I really want to know why you feel that way.
LAMO, coping this hard because you can't just agree with me. Xbox has been shooting itself in the foot for decades. Just kill yourself if you want to be contrarian.
Everyone outside of community bubbles, it was the only one that felt real and like a video game. 2 and 3 tried to hard to make it more about the universe instead of you saving it. Halo CE felt like a completely different game. There's a reason it got multiple Game of the Year Awards vs its sequels getting like one. Halo after CE became just another generic shooter franchise killing the genre until Doom came back to fix it. Doom even had influence to start getting Halo back on the right track after Halo 5.
oh shut the fuck up, you crazed contrarian. you can prefer CE all you like, no one can stop you there, but it was never the favorite game of the franchise.
The good thing about home consoles dying is retards like you getting priced out of it. Microsoft is probably the only smart company that isn't Japanese following the Nintendo direction. Build IPs with iconic characters, small, new, big (somewhat) push them as mascots of your gaming brand to know what the brand is, distance yourself from being green PlayStation, make your console a consolized handheld PC and kill the money sink that is the console, turn Windows Gaming into Xbox, return to your roots in PC. The future of gaming is Nintendo and PC and even Microsoft knows that. PlayStation has no future along with your AAA normie slop. Future games don't focus on gameplay and continue to waste money on worthless shit like being movies instead of games and woke as hell, they will die.
The gun.. "feel" was better (the word gunplay is frowned upon around these parts).
I have no idea what was the point of giving Chief a hook shoot if he was not a candidate for Smash Bros anyways. I feel the Doomslayer was also designed with Smash Bros in mind but that's my schizoid theory.
Gameplay wise the hook shoot, as fun as it may be, was an out of place gimmick for Halo and the level design did not make use of it at all.
I really need to put an emphasis to this: The level design in 343i Halo is dogshit, that alongside the stock music is what ruins the experience.
And because Microsoft are fucking out-of-touch retards, instead of giving people what they wanted and simply update Halo Infinite with seasonal dungeons they decided to focus on the F2P aspect which is bullshit. If you actually paid for the campaign you don't get a damned thing for the MP side of the game, not even a Battlepass, they treated the Campaign as optional DLC or better put: Infinite campaign was merely an ad for the GaaS side of things.
It was always the favorite in the franchise, Halo faggots parading Halo 2 and 3 were never video game nerds and were some offshoot normie trash that came in after and fucked up the series like they fucked up gaming with it.
Ruby's Rebalanced is the definitive way to play Halo 1, a remake is unnecessary. Btw calling it CE is so fucking cringe it's literally just a marketing term.
those hexagon pillars are so fucking ugly
True, new direction for the series is so much better.
singleplayer-only remakes
singleplayer-only Infinite sequel Halo "7"
multiplayer-only Halo game "Project Ekur"
Singleplayer Halo will no longer be boggled down by its multiplayer, if the multiplayer game fails, Halo will just be a singleplayer-only series. It's a win win.
He's got a point.
CE did change things.
I mean we still use CE control scheme for most games.
I kind of get it in that if you are saying "Halo CE atmosphere was unique because it was a game centered around isolation and survival" yeah, it was, and on that you are correct.
2 & 3 are very different.
H2 is a Space Opera and Halo 3 was Starship Troopers.
That said, the issue as to why I don't think anyone considers CE to be the best game in the series is because the game sucked so hard compared to Unreal that even 12 year old me was not impressed with Halo CE. I mean I liked it but it was overrated.
At the time Halo looked dated and came out at the same time as Metal Gear Solid 2 which was also on Xbox.
Halo CE was always a fugly looking game even at the time and MS pushed it super hard.
I would need to see the awards because most of them might come from official publications but to be fair if you come from Golden Eye or Ps1 shooters: Halo fucks hard but as a PC player it was just another Wednesday.
That's awful too.
First and foremost 343i doesn't know their fundamentals and the design for Halo is different and good luck finding anyone who understand it because even Bungie themselves lost it.
But most importantly: The social aspect of Halo is the reason why the series are well remembered.
This is why modern Halo sucked as well as many other modern videogames.
The absurd necessity to have lootboxes while failing to come up with a model that reconciles the needs of the publisher with that of the fanbase, ultimately culminating on forcing ESPORTS onto the playerbase.
NOBODY LIKES ESPORTS
We are forced into them.
This is why it sucked so hard when 343i promised that Infinite would have splitscreen support only to drop it.
Co-Op could had saved the game but it arrived two years later and guess what, it is fun!
343i could go back on their word and keep supporting Infinite and the MCC. The only limiting factor is Microsoft who are the largest cunts in the industry and sadly who allocate the resources.
Oh I see what you're saying now. You think I'm a snoy fanboy. I don't like Sony either. I've been on PC since the 7th gen (Xbox360) so that's all I've cared about. I just want another Eldewrito 0.6 again and I don't believe MS cares about Halo anymore since they've absorbed multiple stuidos now.
Game devs are totally creatively bankrupt it's actually sad, these studios should be forcefully shut down.
Franchise need a soft reboot. Just finish john and cortana story in the next game and do a huge timeskip for the next next game.
Retcon everything 343 did.
What's this obession with Mastr Chief games? Ffs take a break from it and make 2-3 games like Reach or ODST. We already have the MCC which works perfectly fine.
Eldewrito is probably still better than MCC tbdesu. How's it doing now? I haven't played it in years.
That's why you build from the foundation, Halo CE. You take that, you build from it, you finally make the "right" sequels to it. Microsoft cutting through their big studios and making smaller ones within the big ones to work on multiple games in a franchise or multiple games from different and new franchises is probably one of the best ideas they came up with. It's one of the main reasons Nintendo is so successful today. Alos, 343I aren't free thinkers, they are Microsoft, they are a subsidiary to Microsoft. There is no, they are some separate studio from Microsoft, they are Microsoft to the point of how they are structured, 343I never made sense for them, Halo Studios does.
Halo 4 isn't overhated, it was actually a garbage game, it played and looked like shit. The MP was horrid. It was a huge department from the old aesthetics, was still missing forge functionality from 3 and reach, and 343i refused to backtrack until they had two flops in a row.
Halo on UE5
just give me more books instead. could not care less about actually playing Halo anymore desu
You can have Halo without Master Chief. His story finished at fucking 3. Do something else. Follow a different Spartan (without making MC the enemy for some retarded reason), do something with the Elites vs Brutes, make Battlefleet Gothic: Armada but in the Halo universe, do more ODST shit, make some hot fucking female Spartans for people to goon to. This shit is not difficult to figure out.
This shit is not difficult to figure out.
It is if you're vaccinated against having fun like 343 seems to be.
>Halo 4 was overhated. It is nowhere as bad as people like to pretend it is
Did everyone just forget the fact the multiplayer was near unplayable for a whole month when Halo 4 launched? Infection was worse. The forge maps were worse and 343 couldn't be bothered to program the water so there went one of the most popular custom games from Halo Reach. Spartan Ops episodes were copy paste maps and got delayed with no announcement constantly which would be telling for how 343 would handle anything in the future.
>Halo 5 should have been a Republic Comando-style spin-off game.
Ye
>Infinite is good, but it only having one biome made it look unfinished. MP is great now.
MP sucks. Why do Infinite fanboys lie constantly? This is so tiring. I come back every month to check and the game is still as unfun as when it launched.
>MCC is great now, but yeah as someone who bought an Xbone to play it, it was unbelievably broken at launch
Ye
It's way too late to do this kek, they needed to figure that out like a decade and a half ago.
I see Xbots and Snoys as no different from one another, Xbox has missed many smaller video games and didn't bring back many great ips of yesturyear because a bunch of normie Xbots fucked it up. I want Xbox 2001-2008 back, I want 90s Microsoft of gaming back. Xbox of today has to die and these Xbots need to go with them in order to restore what was lost with Xbox after the 6th generation and early 7th generation.
Master ain't the problem, numb nuts. Why am I still fighting the Covenant when they ended in Halo 3, why is the Flood constantly brought up in the lore if already ended them in Halo 3? Stop making games in this series if you can't expand the universe beyond them. Master Chief can be used forever, that's just how his character works along with Cortana.
You can't, every Halo without him being the MC has been pure shit and why do you keep bringing up MC as a problem when we're still fighting and talking about the Covenant and Flood past 2007?
Reach is kino, thougheverbeit
Reach was some shitty take on Halo being COD in space from Bungie that those monkeys at 343I took from.
It was great, you just hate fun because you have autism. Campaign was fun, multiplayer had new modes along with the old stuff, new weapons.
Its modding scene is far better, but almost it's kind of dead. It's nothing like when 0.6 first released and its player count broke the server browser.
*but it's almost kind of dead
jesus christ im tired
Lame. Oh well, I'm glad I got to enjoy it when it was alive. I think the only morally good thing 343i has ever done was not outright shutting down eldewrito but just telling them not to host download links on the public internet.
Yea, 343 has always tried to keep an amicable relationship with modders. It's the only good thing I can say about them.
I hate it because it's normie trash, not fun at all, not Halo. It gave me a view on what the future of Bungie looked like.
old game but remade in a bad modern engine
Why is this a genre now?
How about a Halo remake that's more in line with how the novels treat the setting?
Halo is a video game series, not a book series, tranny. That's why your crappy TV series didn't work. Focus on action, not story
>>>>>>>>>
Halo 5 even gave Master Chief his very own Black doppelganger a la Shadow.
That's fucking hilarious. Good joke.
The halo show didn't work because it fucking sucked and was made by people who hate halo with every fibre of their being. The early bookshit is just there to provide additional depth to the original setting. No I haven't read any of them and never will.
Did everyone just forget the fact the multiplayer was near unplayable for a whole month when Halo 4 launched? Infection was worse. The forge maps were worse and 343 couldn't be bothered to program the water so there went one of the most popular custom games from Halo Reach. Spartan Ops episodes were copy paste maps and got delayed with no announcement constantly which would be telling for how 343 would handle anything in the future.
Zoomers who grew up with Halo 4 don't care about this. Unfortunately for them, the gaslighting doesn't work since Halo 4's MP was universally hated.
All the squeakers I knew back then went right back to halo 3 and reach like a week after 4 released lmao, even they hated it back then. Or it just completely killed their interest in general and they went into cod full time.
The Halo show should have been an action movie about Master Chief killing aliens in outer space on a ancient space ring, if Halo media isn't that, no reason to bother with it. Also, Halo should have been a comic instead of novels. Novels were always stupid and never made sense for a series like Halo.
Zoomers from reddit, ignore how these games were seen at launch. They always try to memoryhole anything bad about the series whether it was from Bungie or 343I.
truth
They already did, they gutted the studio, got rid of the old leadership, built them back up to at least 500 employees under a new banner, Halo Studios, and they split them all into smaller teams to work on multiple projects with some other first party studios or third party studios in Unreal Engine 5. These projects could range from collaborate efforts to supervision. Chances are the other studios will be doing more of the work as this is looking more like how the MCC and Halo Wars 2 was handled where 343I did some of the work, the third party did all of the work. This will not be exclusive to just Halo Studios as Microsoft is doing this with all of their studios as the old AAA development of games no longer works and indies and AAs are thriving and learning from indies and AAs will make better games than AAA slop.
All they had to do was do what Halo Legends with short films but live action instead. They literally did these with Landfall and ODST, and they were really good. All people wanted was more of that. Instead they decided to make some gay ass full length TV series where master chief is unmasked, emotional, miranda is a brown mutt, and that ackshuwally a human woman is the leader of the covenant.
It doesn't even need master chief fully present to be good, it just needs to be not complete shit. Microsoft toyed around with the idea of live action halo for so long and we ended up with the gayest dumpster fire ever.
Also I forgot to add, not only did they toy around with the idea of live action halo for years, they waited until the reputation of the IP was already tarnished from 343i's fuckery before waiting to do the TV series. What the fuck? Nobody even really gave a shit about halo by the time it came out, and anyone who did probably hated the show.
Give me a Halo Wars 3 to wrap up the Banished storyline because it started in Halo Wars 2. Then soft reboot again and do an updated state of the galaxy that they can codify the good bits from Bungie and 343 and go forth and expand the setting again
Halo Legends wasn't big, Microsoft also knew that if Master Chief isn't there, show would not get any attention given some of their other live action series of Halo. They should have either made a live action action movie starring Master Chief or a CGI movie starring Master Chief on the level of Gantz 0. Live Action just can't work with superhuman Master Chief.
Steve Downes is like 73 years old. Master Chief is gonna need to be recast along with the announcer eventually, or for the former's case at least be replaced with a new protagonist eventually. Dude is already having trouble putting on some of the voice lines as is, he's no Masako Nozawa at like 88 for Goku but I doubt he wants to be.
Microsoft is recasting Master Chief and Cortana with AI, serves Steve and Jen right joining the commie SAG-AFTA shit. Voice acting has been the biggest mistake in gaming since cinematic movie cutscenes.
back then, people hated Halo 2 and Halo 3
You are not a real person.
don't bother with him, just a thread schizo screaming about normies
Since a good portion of posters in this thread are even mildly positive about any of the post Halo 3 ODST stuff Id say it doesnt even matter what they do with Halo anymore.
Make it AOC saving an alliance of aliens and humanity from space whitey, it really wouldnt make a difference.
For reference what Im getting at: Halo used to be a science fiction shooter, set in the far future with a lot of actual science fiction tropes. They toned that down with every entry until Halo 3 but it was still there. ODST and Wars were the swansong of the series.
If you even think that Reach was alright then go fuck yourself, it was already nothing more than cod with a Halo paintjob to appeal to the new NPC class. Bunch of Spec Ops dudes dicking around doing miscellaneous missions on not earth, muh war tragedy, get the fuck out.
343I never made sense for them, Halo Studios does.
This ones 343i and this ones Halo Studios ARE the same.
....
No seriously, it is the same but worse.
They lost Joseph Staten and hired Concord's marketing director.
Concord, the game that was aborted on launch.
Nothing about this will work out.
The best outcome for Halo is that Treyarch or Id Software get to do a spin off of the series or that Valve buys the Xbox brand alongside Halo.
343 couldn't be bothered to program the water
Seriously? I never noticed that.
I got Halo 4 GOTY edition for like $10 and I thought it was a great deal since all the MTX were included and I saw a ton of maps that I liked it even when the COD style was super shit but I am fond of INFINITY SLAYER and the Mantis.
Spartan Ops
I was doing the LASO stuff at the time and Spartan Ops managed to be all the more frustrating because it is so dull. So very dull and it seemed to go on forever.
I don't hate the idea, I did not hate the story, I did dislike the characters a lot but I liked having my own original Donut Steel Spartansona character inside the Halo universe, that's neat, that's fine.
But why all the achievement had to be done in solo mode? especially since the mode is just somewhat fun in co-op.
Why do Infinite fanboys lie constantly?
I getchu, it's kind of like Tf2.
Every time I go back it's worse.
I'd rather they make their own scifi universe instead of continuing to rape a decent one over and over again. They won't have to limit themselves to halo since they clearly don't have what it takes to expand upon it.
You weren't real back then, trash like you ruined video games, something that was just a fun hobby made for nerds.
They lost Joseph Staten and hired Concord's marketing director.
So, what, Joe's a hack and Halo's MP has no future anyway. Never got the Staten shilling.
Treyarch
Read above
id
I don't want Parryslop Halo edition
Valve
Haven't made a game in years, is woke now
Maybe you should just not come up with any ideas. Want Halo to survive, trim the fat, gut MP, lower the budget significantly, stop trying to make shitty space operas and character-driven nonsense, focus on making a fun gameplay sandbox. Actually put some good use to the lore from a GAMEPLAY STANDPOINT, not some story crap. All you need is a Master Chief save the day storyline, nothing big, nothing special. Move away from the Covenant and Flood and no, the red pirate Covenant is not moving away from the Covenant.
CE is considered one of the greatest games ever made
Yeah, if you only played 3 games in your life, the other 2 being Concord and Avengers.
MP slop
Marvel slop
I really hate the mainstream and globalization.
Trim the fat gut
Take your own advice LOL
Owned.
is woke now
Fags like you don't even know what "woke" means anymore
They're blocking off games from even entering their store, you retard. That's as woke as you can get. You don't seem to know what it means given that you can't shake the brainwashing, you dumb grifting commie faggot.
the developer of H3: CE is a tranny
had some sort of mental breakdown
holy shit anon please do something with your life
tranny
mental breakdown
pretty sure that's a prerequisite
Yeah but it was a tranny with halo autism so xhe was making a decent job
I bet it will be even buggier than the MC collection. And whoever greenlit the mesh and texture remakes for Halo 1 should be shot.
So assuming this is actually successful in revitalizing the series
I've been beaten enough that i can't even imagine such future
You should do something about yours, why do you zoomers not want to go back to the 80s-early 2000s era of gaming when things were so much better?
A Bungie dev of Halo CE-3 trooned out?
still caring about halo
Why?
ANOTHER UE5 slop remake game
This industry is dead.
I'm not a zoomer I grew up playing those games, this also has absolutely nothing to do with you calling me a grifting commie for calling you out because you said valve is woke
I feel like the Anniversary remasters were peak laziness from 343I.
Really, this shit posts now, what a crappy network.
personally i just think halo is a shit IP and got popular due to lack of other options rather than some innate greatness that it's entitled to in 2025
assuming this is actually successful
They put fat lesbian catladies in charge, it's fucked.
They are woke, why do they block some Japanese games but don't block some LGB garbage that's more degenerate? I don't know what this hating American and Japanese thing going on with the west and the east but it's getting on my nerves and it has no place in America. If you're a nationalist, you either love this country or you get out, I don't know why there was never a law in place to prevent this kind of shit.
infinite starts with the biggest and baddest flagship of humanity somehow losing to covenant remnants and Chief gets manhandled by an oversized gorilla
That alone made me drop it.
The halo ce remaster using 3's engine you dense fuck
It did, I liked it for Halo CE but it got really shitty after that, I could at least see what Microsoft was doing with Infinite's campaign wish it panned out better. Funny enough, I more excited for the series future now with all the changes going around that I ever did because Halo is no longer top dog and that's a good thing.
Who cares, that ship was the remnant of Halo 4 and 5, Infinite killing it at the start of the game made the campaign better just from that alone.
Piere Hintze is in charge, a man, that chick doesn't do shit. I don't know why you retards keep bringing up some dyke bitch with no control over the studio.
Comparing Halo 4 to Sonic Adventure
The only thing people like about Halo 4 is Cortana's design.
Going open world and just 1 biome was a miss for Infinite's campaign. I don't think anyone complained over Halo 5's environments just the shitty story so I don't know what compelled them to do this.
It's still incredibly shitty storytelling and tells a lot about the company when they need to restart the story three times.
Move away from the Covenant and Flood
No. Don't do that. People like the Covenant and Flood. Nothing introduced to replace them had anywhere close to their charisma. Halo is as much Covenant and Flood as it is Master Chief.
UE5
I CANT WAIT FOR IT TO RUN LIKE SHIT AND LOOK LIKE EVERY OTHER UE5 GAME
It isn't likely happening btw
You could argue that either Knuckles Chaotix or S&K are equal to Halo 3: ODST.
you've clearly never experienced chaotix
john gets cucked
john cucks cortana
its just part of the cycle of cucking anon
Idea was pitched for this UE5 Demo (It literally stated it wasn't representing a game on screen) and it hasn't been pushed.
True
I don't get why there's such an obsession with remaking CE anyways. CE is literally perfect. It's 2, 3, and Reach that have flaws.
Shut up, many series have done this, the Covenant don't make Halo, Master Chief, Cortana, the Forerunners, and the gameplay sandbox makes Halo, you can literally just take the entire Covenant's gameplay sandbox and shove it into another faction and call it a day. This also expands the universe. Flood don't even have a weapon or vehicle sandbox of their own and can easily be replaced. If you refuse to expand the universe when the whole point of Halo is Master Chief overcoming impossible odds to protect humanity and the galaxy then stop making new games. The Human-Covenant War ended in 2007, dammit, if you want to bring that back to badly, do it in remakes. Nostalgia is holding this series back, this doesn't mean gameplay, this doesn't mean Master Chief, no the same stupid ass 30-year war is still going on despite it already ending in the third fucking game, move on already. This shit is as bad as the forced Cortana story going from Halo 4-Infinite.
Credible insiders have been saying otherwise, so how do you know this?
All the cut content from 2 and 3 has a lot of potential
When you think about how big Halo was during and around its peak, it's genuinely crazy how much Microsoft fucked it. They need to just give it a rest and shut the new Halo devs down.
Lmao, it's chief fag from /hg/.
I thought you killed yourself after infinite flopped
While true, people still imagine 90s and year 2000 Halo that we never got and wonder what could have been, remake is an opportunity to add those, also, Halo Studios really needs to make a real Halo game to understand Halo. This is why the new games suck so badly.
I don't know lol.
If you refuse to move on from the Covenant and Flood, then it's seriously time to stop making Halo games. It doesn't matter what dumb idea you come up with, it's still the same game from 2001. Bungie knew when to end it.
Then we're getting a remake of CE that will expand to 2 and 3, a MP-only game, and eventually a Halo "7".
Everybody saw the writing on the wall. Top executives left to gamestop of all places. Kinect was a brand assassination and so was halo 4. It's like within the transition from xbox 360 slim and xbone everybody at xbox was replaced with a complete fucking moron and feminists
Sorry anon. It's been genuinely quiet regarding this project.
What have you've been hearing, tell me, I must know?
I've been hearing nothing. That's the thing.
I'd like a Halo prequel that follows the events of the Eric Nylund novels (and midquels too). Those books are so good.
Remake 1
Remake 2/3 as one game
Removed the gay ass forerunners aren’t human retcon
Keep chief in perma sleep post 2/3
From there make something entirely different to what they did from 4-6
Then it's somewhat a secret, the credible insiders have been stating the same thing I've been stating and Piere even hints that the Project Foundry stuff will be used in future games. You 343I dev that you've been talking to may have been laid off as to why you're no longer hearing things.
You can't undo the core of 4-6; Cortana MUST go rampant and she MUST die. It undermines the entire character arc of Master Chief and Cortana (and the underlying lore) to not do this. Does she HAVE to become a villain? Obviously not, but she must go through the stages of rampancy and self delete. Period.
They're keeping it secret
Uhhhh of course they would but credibl-
shut the fuck up dude
halo should be rebooted as an RTS like it was meant to be, wars > halo CE >>>>>>>>> rest of the halo games
Removed the gay ass forerunners aren’t human retcon
Get over it, Microsoft retconned that in 2011. Before they left, Bungie stated that they have their own lore and canon, Microsoft has there. Current Halo isn't the same series as Bungie's. Never understood why Bungiedrones and 343 shills were so anal about this and just lied all the time.
You shut the fuck up, it's been known for a while what their UE5 projects were.
*theirs
Gunplay infinite was good. Cope and seethe. They also added:
1) fusion coils you can pick and through (based)
2) jackals that twist their shields (based)
3) brutes and elites that you fight at the same time (based)
4) a grapplehook that you can do a million things work and use infinitely in the campaign (based)
5) seat switching on vehicles without getting out (based)
6) vehicles that give you a warning that they’re about to self destruct so you can kamakazi the enemy (based)
7) a bigger BTB mode without all the gay pay to win and PvE from the shitty war zone mode in 5 (based)
8) a unique take on CTF in BTB where the flag changes position after every capture, becoming progressively harder to cap (based an sovl)
9) a unique take on KOTH in BTB where you have to capture all three hills at once to score a point (based and adrenaline pumping)
10) the most insane forge to that, with scripting (giga based)
11) brutes that throw fusion coils and suicide grunts at you (based)
12) the most kino halo soundtrack to date, being heavily inspired by Marty’s original trilogy soundtracks (based)
Wtf are you talking about?
Don’t care. It was gay and lame then. It’s gay and lame now. Also you’re wrong.
Delete all the 4 and 5 lore, chief wakes up on some covenant world, civil war still going, and gets to fight the proto-banished, he finally meets arby again, they have a beer, kick some ass, infinity is retconned to just another unsc carrier.
Game ends with them heading to zeta halo, cortana never goes rampant she is just damaged from gravemind's tentacle rape, and retires to live with another raped AI, mendicant bias
Multiplayer is literally just halo 3's sandbox but prettier, no sprint
Why Halo CE again? Why not remake 3 which is the most beloved from what I've seen? Even 3 was a show off game too with the map maker and physics engine. People are stupid.
I thought H3 was the beginning of the end and just switch to PC entirely.
Tried MCC but it just felt gross and off putting
Don’t care. It was gay and lame then. It’s gay and lame now. Also you’re wrong.
How am I wrong, Bungie never retconned it, Frankie didn't retcon it, 343I did hire a guy named Jeremy that did retcon it and that retcon went into full effect in 2011 after Bungie already flew the coop. Before 2011, humans were Forerunners in all of Bungie's games, end of story.
The hexagonal stuff makes it look like the mountains are glitching out like they're not rendering properly.
Delete chief, have an entire game about spartan 2's showing up spartan 4's fighting in tandem with 2's using 4's like grunts. Show some love to odst, give them edge of tomorrow mechs with thruster packs like starship troopers. Get back to the ONI/CIA conspiracies, have Oni making flood spores in their basement or something. Give me one drop of the starwars prequels/40k politics between factions.
Have halsey die and clone herself as a spartan candidate
Because it's a full remake and not a remaster. How can Halo Studios learn how to make a Halo game if they keep hiring out to just put an ugly graphics layer over a better game? This is why we had three straight games without a Scarab battle or Warthog Run. Warthog Runs should have been a damn stable by now.
Dickhead, my original post is agreeing with you.
Sorry but every halo game with no chief has been dogshit
odst = dogshit
Reach = dogshit
both wars = dogshit
2 = half kino half dogshit
5 = half dogshit hald mediocre (blue team ruins it, chief does not need a bunch of lackeys)
1 = kino
3 = super kino
4 = kino
Infinite = kino
Chief toys sell the most, most kids wear Chief's costumes on Halloween, Master Chief's skin was popular in Fortnite, you're a vocal minority, m8, no one cares about your side characters. delete the Covenant and Flood, reboot the series entirely starting over, or just kill the ip if you can pick between these two things. You don't see Gordan Freeman fighting the same damn aliens from Half-Life, just a few leftovers.
Yes and? If they wanted to show off what they can do with Halo then the third game would have been the better choice and also has connection to that also being a show off of the game's engine. It also follows the trilogy of HDing the Halo series since they did 1 and 2 already. Missed opportunity is what I'm getting at. Even on the Master Chief collection it's Halo 3's multiplayer that's the most popular.
If you're remaking the trilogy, you start from the beginning, Halo CE is the game you can do the most experiments, Halo 2 needs the most work, Halo 3 is putting all of that together. You then use everything you learned from the Halo trilogy and put it in a game set after Infinite to make the ultimate Halo game.
Chief's old and his story ended with 3. He served his purpose, stopping the second firing of the halo rings. There's no plot thread to expand on. He should be relegated to cameos like a DMC character in order to save the series. None of the post 3 games with him have even been playable. In recognition of xbox's failure he shouldn't be the face of the brand any longer. There needs to be a new story and plastering his face on a box isn't cutting it.
Um no sweetie. Everything pre 343 was kino. Post 343 halo wars 2 was kino and infinite was half kino.
calling 4 kino
Why would anyone listen to anything you have to say?
Reboot the series and hand it over to ID
Lean into hard sci-fi/fantasy aspect of it
Spartan-IIs age slower than any other Spartan generation, Master Chief ages slower than Spartan-IIs. If this is a Steve Downes thing, don't worry, he's getting replaced by AI so now Microsoft no longer has a reason to replace Chief or Cortana, other characters may get the boot though, who knows. You keep claiming that it's Master Chief holding the series back but in reality, it's the Covenant and Flood that's been doing that and 3babies refusal to move on from 2007. Humanity needs new enemies current and ancient. Bungie's Halo ended in 2010, this new Halo needs to expand beyond that but keep it Halo.
The only coping and seething is from 343. You can't fuck up the multiplayer that hard and expect people to come back when you try to fix your mistake.
Because I assume you're retarded like this other poster. It is "core" lore that smart AIs in the Halo universe live 7 years, go rampant, and essentially kill themselves. This lore is more or less based on Halo's predecessor, Marathon, but it didn't have the strict timeline rule that Halo's rampancy does. This faggot wants Cortanta to "retire" and have a happy ending. She is destined for a bad ending. Her BEST outcome is heroic sacrifice, and she gets a bit of that in 4, and it should have stayed that way as far as I'm concerned. Master Chief should have grown as a character; ironically become more human from the passing of an AI. But no, faggots like you can't handle the EXTREMELY TELEGRAPHED death of character so retards at 343/MSoft have to make up the worst fan fiction imaginable to keep her alive and chugging for more slop sequels that mean nothing. Master Chief is a child soldier stolen from his parents designed to be an efficient killer of humans, and he was before the Covenant invaded. His handlers are evil, and had no idea their child soldier program could potentially save humanity from alien invasion. Dr. Halsey is a mad scientist, Cortana is a smart AI made from a cloned brain of Halsey, and is essentially her daughter, and somehow despite everything, Cortana and Master Chief bond and find solace in one another. It isn't hard to wrap your head around.
I don't want parryslop Halo edition.
If they're remaking the whole trilogy that's different
Why do you think it was made in the first place
To cuck fans of the series and rebrand it for modern audiences that don't and won't care about it (all part of the plan)
Multiplayer wasn’t the problem. People actually enjoyed it. It was the cut content, greedy monetisation, and janky launch. Plus for a live service game they couldn’t add content because of their retarded pajeet coded engine. Also the open world design of the campaign had some draw backs. But the actual gameplay itself was fine. That’s why it actually got a decent reception at launch before it became clear 343 couldn’t fix all the faults.
When did I say chief is holding the series back you aspie? I was posting what it would take to completely revitalize the series, which requires recognition of turnign over a new leaf
343 did this in 4 and 5 and infinite you little bitch nigger but failed to pull it off. But I guess as long as chief is in the game you'll buy it
Yup, that's the rumor, it will start with Halo CE and from there, Halo 2 and then Halo 3 will be added as DLC, remakes that is.
I’m not reading all that shit bro. What part of ‘keep chief and Cortana asleep and do something different for 4’ did you not understand?
If the multiplayer was actually good, people would overlook how barebones it is.
There's only two ways to do that, you get rid of the Covenant and Flood, or you reboot the series from the ground up. This is the only way to bring in old and new fans alike. No one like factions coming back from the dead after they've already been defeated.
They did. At launch. People complimented the gameplay.
Then nobody stuck around because the gameplay wasn't really that good.
Yeah nobody likes what 343 did great observation. Which takes you back to my original post now doesn't it.
keep chief
add new aliens
I don't know sounds kind of braindead, but considering the modern audience that might be enough to limp the brand along, worked for 4
The thing is, a Halo game with 0 recognizable enemies would be panned for not having anything that was fun to fight like in the old games. And if they made the new enemies function just like Elites, Grunts, etc. it would raise the question as to why they didn't just bring back the old guys.
nta but they would most definitely skimp on the designs just like they did with 4
So we're looking at halo 4 but worse territory
No. Stop being dense. You’re living in the age of live service games and short attention span zoomers. Think for a second.
All that is 343 lore so not canon
Yes, what's wrong with importing the Covenant's sandbox into a new alien, being afraid of dropping the Covenant is why the series is dead in the first place.
There have been so many games that have dropped an old faction, replaced them with another and just kept the same gameplay. What you've just brought up is an excuse.
Halo infinite failed because it didn't have maps or forge or game modes. Halo is basically just a Tribes clone and heavily inspired by WAD mods but interfaceable on a console.
All the joys of PC gaming in you hands with thumbsticks. Halo 4 failed for the same reason. Shit forge, shit maps and weapons, shit game modes.
Are their some Male Elite x Female Human in the canon?
Maybe it's time for Halo to move away from its old fanbase and establish a new one, one who isn't Bungiedrones or lorefagging 343shills. Sometimes it's best to leave things behind.
There have been so many games that have dropped an old faction, replaced them with another and just kept the same gameplay.
After a decade of using the same enemies?
People already complain that Infinite doesn't have a plasma rifle.
halo soulslike
they should have just done a Halo 3 remaster if they wanted to make another easy remake, that being said if they really insist on this it should stick with the original story with at best some extra line added from the original books
Yeah if they actually cared they'd be doing one of those blur animations plastered on top of halo 3
Most people stopped giving a shit about that post-launch. Hell, Halo 4 was a primary example of 343I's retardation on keeping the Covenant and then cluttering up the sandbox with UNSC weapons, Covenant weapons, Human Tron weapons, oh I'm sorry, I mean "Forerunner" weapons. They got cold feet and fucked up the glowing robot faction. At least with Infinite they just made all the weapons feel like they're just Chief's weapons instead feeling like three separate factions while trying it's best to be like those other twitch shooters instead of Halo. I praise Infinite for finally trying something different while bringing back the spirit of Halo. Halofaggots can't even get interested in the Endless, something that isn't fucking Flood because it's not the Flood. I'm starting to wonder why Microsoft is getting rid of the Xbox fanbase along with the Halo fanbase and replacing them going forward.
Most people stopped giving a shit about that post-launch.
Because 99% of the playerbase evaporated after a week.
Nobody gave a shit about it then, the same faggots making a fuss about that made a fuss about the Switch 2 and look how well that's going for them. Halofags remind me of idiots that wanted Trump but then complains when he actually starts doing what he said he was going to do and fixing a broken corrupt country and nationalizing and isolating it again. If you can't allow the series to try new things and stay what it is, then maybe you need to be left in the year 2007. Halo 4 was not the right way, Halo 5 was not the right way, Infinite is getting there but now it's time to actually get there.
Infinite is the exact same shit as 4 and 5, just with a more "classic" facade(that was ruined in month 1 when they released the fucking cat ears)
why does it look like an action figure instead of a guy in armor?
I'm solely talking about the campaign, MP was crap from the beginning the next one will flop. The next one is most likely going to be the last one too, what need is there for a Halo MP when COD and Overwatch exist?
halo MP is different enough and has fun game modes
Halo MP is dead, no reason for it to exist anymore, Halo should just pull a Doom and go singleplayer-only already.
halo is the only thing keeping arena shooters alive
Halo MP may be dead, but it's still got the majority of the players compared to campaign. Where most people will play it once and forget about it.
Arena shooters are dead and will stay dead, Halo is a terrible arena shooter and how can it keep that alive if it can't even keep itself alive? Halo's heydays are over. If not even Microsoft believes in the multiplayer anymore, why should anyone else?
Halo SP will bring in the most money from purchases especially in the future. MP would have to survive a month for once and stop dying in a week. If it can't survive the next round, it's over. Video games are moving towards singleplayer, the MP era is coming to an end, and that's a good thing.
Is Halo SP really going to bring in much money when it's going to be on game pass day 1?
unironically they would be better off making full blown remakes of Halo 4 and 5, its not like it would be to hard for 4s case since you really just need to make some relatively easy rewrites, level changes, and art changes to get people to be more open to it
So assuming this is actually successful in revitalizing the series,
it wont be
All we need is to move towards Singleplayer with co-operative side modes and I'm happy.
Halo is saved
Has this ever happened to any game?
WC3
They make a sequel that brings it all back to basics. It will mimic Halo one in many ways. The key selling point is they make a real Halo physically in the game. To manage world size and tech, you shrink a Halo to be real small.
So, UNSC builds a mini Halo using fragments of a larger one. They wake master chief up and it is a redo of the first game. Before cov arrive he is woken up to get retired. He is done. They don't need him. But then covemant strikes and they do.
Most important aspect is the real Halo. It will be small enough to be fully modeled but still a huge open map. But it's also naturally limited to be a very wide corridor.
Key reasons are gameplay. Sniping the upturned curve. In gameplay reenacting odst drops. The Halo breaking into pieces near end game and it's effect on gameplay. A crazy natural day night cycle with a Sun and planet in skybox and the illumination possibilities within the turning ring.
The first halo was huge levels and beautiful skyboxes. They went hard to sell you were on a Halo. You save Halo by giving us the actual Halo.
lmao, I thought bonnie ross and wolfkill were bad enough
Bungie (after CE) was terrible at writing. 343 were too focused on what they were criticized for instead of going forward with their own vision.
At this point, I'm not really caring about a reboot or a new remastering of the original game.
Most likely, I can see Microsoft getting rid of Game Pass when Xbox is fully in Windows in the future to maximize sales potential, from there, Microsoft is most likely selling Halo on PlayStation as well, Switch 2 if it's powerful enough to run on there while also putting on Steam on PC besides their own unified PC Microsoft Store.
We can probably get that now.
I will at least say this, I can see the potential in the Banished. I say next major game should add more new things to them, more new aliens like the Skimmers, the Crusher, Sirens, if the Behemoth isn't too much like the Crusher, add them, Prophet Prelates, a prominent Banished Spartan, Banished with smart AIs and mechs. New types of super Hunters, just go completely mad and I would love it, also new vehicles mixed in with the old. New types of Sentinels and fulling going all out on the Endless without bringing back the Flood would also help a lot. Boss fights, can forget boss fights, give me giants to fight. I feel like things like this would do wonders in Halo.
So anon, what will these women do? I want job descriptions.
343 were too focused on what they were criticized for
343 cancelled the spartan ops movie they had planned because not enough people were buying the paid episodic dlc, and then wrapped it up in the most poorly drawn comic I have ever seen
they don't give a fuck what you think
best armor he's had in awhile
the game is ass
This is torture
They are Microsoft at their very core, if it doesn't work, eliminate it.
cool but fuck me when the first game has you beat in variety you have a fucking issue cmon
At least they will keep the armor in the next game. I can't wait for the next game in 2030+ to incorporate everything that was cut from Halo Infinite's singleplayer campaign. I feel like all the new stuff got cut for the nostalgic stuff.
Halo 4 was overhated
Infinite is good
but even the worst Halo, which i think is Reach
I genuinely feel sorry for you having taste this terrible.
I like it but I wish there were more biomes.
I don't know how you can dislike Reach and consider Halo 4 overhated, Halo 4 is just a worse version of Reach.
They don't. Nobody thinks this. Halo 3 actually looks better than most games today.
Halo 4 did a lot wrong, but it was more fun to play because the guns didn't fire marshmallows.
Manlet Chief
Halo 3 actually looks better than most games today.
I'm not talking about the graphics, man, I mean the gameplay.
What's wrong with it? Not enough slide canceling and sprinting?
Halo 2 and 3's duel wielding sucked which also impacted weapon balancing. The equipment options in 3 are dogshit. The writing is AWFUL between those two games. The pacing goes from "WAY TOO SLOW" to breakneck. People who criticize 343 for "requiring" outside info give Bungie a pass despite them using information NO ONE knows about (Cortana vision, anyone?). Power weapon spawn camping killed any sort of investment in actually being a good player in multiplayer. So many of the vehicles and weapons serve so little purpose alternatives, and a lot more.
It's slow and dated, you know it is, telling people to fuck off when they tell you this is just going to keep the series under. Infinite is the way, my friend.
It's stupid to say stuff like that but I get what he means. Halo 3 doesn't have the problem where shit blends in together, everything stands out and nothing clashes while having a lot of color variety.
Infinite was a flop. The series is dead. Just leave it be.
What's funny is the main reason Halo CE has better writing than Halo 2 and 3 is because most of it was written by Microsoft, not Bungie, and because it was closer to Marathon than the other games Bungie made after it. Halo CE was truly special. It having so much cut stuff and I can't bring myself to hate it because Halo CE was just so unique, the 90s version, the 2000 version, and the 2001 final release.
There is literally not a single thing wrong with slower gameplay, turning a slow game fast is just as stupid as turning a fast game slow.
CE had a solid story. There were problems, of course (Cortana not telling Chief about the zombie parasites is BIZARRE), but it was leagues better than 2-Reach where Bungie just made set pieces first and then stuck them together with spit and terrible dialog.
I know, the MP was shit, I also knew that was going to tank the series and the fact that they waited until October to fully reveal the campaign was borderline retarded. 343I self-sabotaged that. It's a wonder Microsoft "dropped the hammer" on them.
There's plenty wrong with slow gameplay, but making the speed effortless is a mistake(the 343 games)
343 really should have just kept what Bungie was doing with Reach and ODST. Don't bring Chief back ever and just make side stories in the universe. Idk how they fucked it up so hard.
There is when you're as slow as a snail.
halo is the sonic of fps
I agree
There are more good halo games than good sonic games and it's not that much
Nobody will agree with you, but you're right. They had an interesting universe, there's plenty of fans that love UNSC aesthetic, and instead decided to focus on Master Chief being space Jesus.
It's interesting how many great games are made by dudes in a basement referencing movies. Then corporate comes in for the sequel and wants it turned into an actual movie
I love Master Chief
But in a game where isn't in it, is like making a mario game without mario
Those suck though, just build off of Infinite's campaign, there is so much they can add to the Banished that wasn't in the Covenant while also the Endless add a new mystery never before seen in Halo, and then the Forerunners, there are still Sentinel types and monitors, powerful ones that we haven't faced yet. Going crazy with weapons, grenades, and vehicles are also a must. Just go crazy with the power fantasy of Chief and Cortana just wreaking havoc on alien scum. Hell give me Scarabs, Stratos-Sentinels, and other massive things to take out, make Offensive Bias a boss fight. Make Master Chief and ultra badass.
It was written by FASA. Just like FASA did the multiplayer (networking too) for 2 & 3. Then Microsoft killed them after taking their budget for the sublime Shadowrun FPS and giving it to Halo 3 which was an inferior multiplayer experience to Shadowrun.
This, I never liked them, I don't see what's interesting about them. Halo's lore sucks and it's only fun when you're the guy everyone wants to kill and you just badass it up like the Doom Slayer.
Wow, I didn't know this, it's a wonder why I felt there was a huge quality drop after Halo CE in terms of campaigns.
Man, I ***LOVE*** FASA's work with Crimson Skies. I always wanted to see a sequel to High Road to Revenge.
like making a mario game without mario
Absolutely retarded comparison. There are plenty of good mario games that don't have mario.
mario game without mario
but mario is the worst part of his own franchise
Reach
The worst Halo, objectively speaking. Halo is good because of its gameplay flow. The 1-2-3 shoot-grenade-melee flow was sublime. Then bungie had a gas leak and said "I know, lets put in powers that completely pause the flow of gameplay entirely, also glory kills and sprinting, you know things that keep you from shooting, meleeing and grenading. That's what our perfect formula needs to really fuck its shit up for good."
An ability that takes a player out of the core loop is something that shouldn't be in the game. Reach was a mistake. Sprinting was a mistake, vaulting was a mistake. So many mistakes starting at reach and continuing to subsequent games. Bungie got lucky with Halo and we can see that with the garbage they pumped out after leaving Microsoft. They needed a retard wrangler in charge.
FASA was officially shut down on September 12, 2007
I think you might be onto something
Nobody was talking about the gameplay.
It isn't a secret. Watch the developer commentary for 3. They go into detail about how Bungie couldn't figure out how to make the online work with their upgraded engine because FASA wasn't involved anymore. So Microsoft pulled the Shadowrun team to overhaul the online multiplayer portion of the engine and as a result Shadowrun suffered severely.
why on earth are they remaking a game that does not need one in the first place?
and why are people ok with that bullshit idea?
resident evil
dead space
final fantasy
any remake in the last 5 years
Money and zoomers.
I feel like any new stuff got cut because of incompetence
Resident Evil and Final Fantasy remakes are completely different games.
Dead Space didn't need one.
Watch the developer commentary
I meant "documentary" or "making of." It released with the game and is quite illuminating as to who the real talent was behind Halo 1-3. It certainly wasn't Bungie.
also glory kills
Optional, and you just had to hold down the melee button for longer.
and sprinting,
Only if you had a piece of equipment, and the equipment in Reach was ass. The multiplayer maps took a ding to this because they had to be HUGE *and* vertical to account for sprinting (though that was WAY too much) and jetpacks.
you know things that keep you from shooting, meleeing and grenading
Sprinting is a good inclusion because it can save someone who didn't open up fire first. It's sacrificing the ability to fight for flight. With "de-scoping" getting hit first means you are at an inherent disadvantage and it then all becomes about who can hit the other guy first with no interesting alternatives, which is I think flinching works better with scoped weapons.
Reach was a mistake.
Yes. Because the weapon system went from "what works best with this fight" to "which combination of weapons suck the least."
Sprinting was a mistake, vaulting was a mistake
It depends on execution. Limited default sprinting and clambering were good additions. I would genuinely like to see someone try modding that into the original games because both could add layers to the baseline gameplay.
The worst additions to the gameplay were Bungie's. Duel wielding is EASILY the worst thing ever incorporated into the games. It's not inherently bad (like with Wolfenstein), but it denied the player access to melee, getting in vehicles, turrets, and equipment. You'd have to be stupid to go for duel wielding especially with no long-range duel-wielded weapons.
I've watched and currently am watching the making of documentary and it doesn't seem anything about it has anything to do with FASA, it's mostly them just goofing off
There was no need for sprinting or vaulting. Those were for shitters who couldn't use movement techs. All they needed to do was increase base movement speed by a tiny amount and maybe make slop jumping and other physics based jumps easier for normies. But noooooooooo, can't arena-shooter style movement techs in a console game for the target 80 IQ audience.
also glory kills
Imagine being such a tryhard faggot you don't like assassinations.
resident evil
2 was decent
3 was dogshit
4 didnt need one
dead space
worse than the original
and the original is also perfectly playable already
final fantasy
the less said the better
also:
oblivion
soulless overhyped trash
he called assassinations "glory kills"
nu-doomfaggot LEAVE
They fucked up the story and lore so much I dont care at this point.
Oh, you know it
Vaulting wasn't even in Reach.
THE ENDLESS HAS ARRIVED
Vaulting wasn't even in Reach
So many mistakes starting at reach and continuing to subsequent games
continuing to subsequent games
subsequent games
subsequent
Remaking CE AGAIN
What even does UE offer that the HALO engine doesn't? Both of them are built off libraries from the mid 90s, but the HALO ones were written later.
All they needed to do was increase base movement speed by a tiny amount and maybe make slop jumping and other physics based jumps easier for normies.
That's not what I'm talking about. Giving people the chance to climb over obstacles at the expense of other moment and weapons is an interesting choice and all you need to do is press the jump button again against the geometry of the game. Having two different speeds changes how you engage in fights.
can't arena-shooter style movement techs in a console game for the target 80 IQ audience.
Halo isn't an arena shooter, especially with longer TTK, slower movement speed, and vehicle options back in CE. It would be further from the original formula that Halo 5's unlimited sprinting if they upped the speed. The sprinting in Infinite is a joke because it barely changes anything and then you wonder what was the point. For Reach, 4, and 5, sprinting is a legitimately different mechanic to consider for both yourself and enemies.
she/her
Boone
Not him but assassinations were always stupid, a lot of Infinite's complaints revealed who were the newfags who started with Halo 3.
why doesn't the PP EMP vehicles
Because it didn't do it in Halo CE and 2
where muh Assassinations
Were those in Halo CE, 2, or 3, no, then why should they be in Infinite?
I hate that all the new weapons work better in Campaign
Hmm, it's almost like the game was made with the campaign in mind just like Halo CE, wow
3babies on up have been a cancer since they came in.
What even does UE offer that the HALO engine doesn't?
No one left at 343/Halo Studios knows how to use the engine anymore. It's the same across many IPs where the original devs left and the new blood has no idea what to do.
Halo 4/5/6 should've been stories about Locke and his team, not Chief and Cortana.
An engine that doesn't break down and take hours just to put new shit in it.
watch some halo videos and some 20 year old movie videos on youtube
get video recommendation
"Oh so you want to go back to your childhood, like me. Well you can't, you're wrong and deluded, grow up."
What the fuck lol, google algorithm is hitting below the belt
That is very sad. I'd say I feel bad for 343, but this is just par for course by now.
especially with longer TTK, slower movement speed
Because it is on console and there is a limit to the level of finesse a human can achieve on a controller. But yes it is Baby's First Arena Shooter: Console Edition. UT2K4 was an arena shooter with the same sort of vehicles and expansive maps as well.
Vaulting and sprinting is CRINGE and has no place in Halo. None. Period.
Kill yourself, glad Microsoft had the balls to kill him, get fucked.
tl;dr 10 years developing blam 2.0, half a billion dollars, hire indians on contract, cycle them out every 6 months, fire old guard, hire ideas guys
Place your bets, are they going to promise Local CoOp for a THIRD time in a row before breaking it or will they actually try this time?
SheBoone
These are executives trying to convince board members that microsoft can still make games when they actually can't, they've scared every competent programmer out of the industry
Locke isn't dead and why would you be happy about 343 dragging Chief and Cortana's characters through the mud? You really want to sit here and tell me you're happy with how Cortana ended up in Halo 5? How Chief is now? You're REALLY fine with those stories? Because if you are you're either underage or a brainless sheep
They may not promise it at all, they could add it, they could skip it but given that future campaigns won't have multiplayer, they may be able to add it now, maybe that is.
i hate that you are right
Schrodinger's Locke. We don't know if he's dead or not, but they gave his helmet to a Brute as a trophy and will refuse to show him ever again.
Locke isn't dead
Prove that he's not, oh wait, you can't so shut up. There is no secret dialogue in Infinite stating he's dead and his helmet, chest plate, and fingers are being worn by a Brute boss in the game. Just in case you post that so-called concept art of him floating around, that was confirmed to be some fan art from some 343shill. He hasn't appeared in any media post-Infinite, he's dead and even the game pretty confirmed as much, cope. He was just another failed Microsoft experiment, so he was eliminated like all the rest.
*alive
The human characters are the only thing in 3 that look terrible but they're barely on screen.
This thread only proves that the series will forever be dead.
Remakes
343 apologists
Microsoft apologists
"Uh actually these games were never good!"
Please just let it die.
Esl
CE remake likely wont happen.
Anyways...
Halo Art:
Art of Halo (Book):
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Art of Halo (CE-Reach Era)
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Art of Halo 3
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Art of Halo 4
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Art of Halo 5 (In Pictures)
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Art of Halo 5 itself:
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Art Compilation from CE to 4
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Art of Halo Infinite
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Lore:
Halo Books:
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Halo Encyclopedia (Reach Edition)
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Halo Encyclopedia (2022) PDF and Images
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Warfleet:
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Mythos:
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Halo 3 Bestiarum:
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Halo Prima Strategy Guides
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It would be good to finally bury halo
Halo 4
An ancient evil awakes
Halo 5
Okay the ancient evil was dealt with off screen
A new ancient evil awakes
Halo Infinite
Okay the new ancient evil was dealt with off screen
A new new ancient evil awakes which is like super cool and dangerous
Imagine caring about Halo at this point.
This. The jumping off point for Halo fans was after 3 or Reach. There's no point in hoping for Microsoft to unfuck what they've done since
Series needs a refresher, remakes and a new game that tries some new things will do that. Halo died for several reasons.
Bungie kept claiming that the fight was finished but kept making games after Halo 3
Halo copied COD multiple times
We're fighting the Covenant again in Halo 4 after we beat them in Halo 3
Prometheans suck
Forerunner weapons look human, 343 didn't even try
linearize the games further
keep thinking getting rid of the Chief and Cortana would fix things, makes things worse
MP outlive its usefulness
The Banished and Endless is probably the most original ideas the series has introduced in years and they were introduced in an unfinished game. UE5 may actually save this series.
retconning halo 4 in a comic was amazing
almost all images of this have been scrubbed off the internet
CE remake likely wont happen.
You're just saying this because you no longer have anyone to leak this shit to you anymore because Microsoft gave them the boot, lol.
>Forerunner weapons look human
That wouldn't have been an issue if they didn't retcon Forerunners as their own species.
Not even Bungie made that shit look human, 343I were just lazy and wanted Halo to be COD in space.
series needs a refresher
I'd prefer Master Chief to be some badass character controlled by the AI.
The player character being your custom spartan like Halo Reach.
Bungie kept claiming that the fight was finished but kept making games after Halo 3
All prequels and different stories.
Humaltion riual.
Infinite needs a do over, UE5 is what Halo needs given that Blam! was just too much for 343I. It was also stupid to put all your bells and whistles in one game. 343I did this to themselves.
Halo 4 ancient evil was kino
Halo Infinite ancient evil was lame as fuck
They called Halo 3 the last Halo game, the end of Halo, people were annoyed we were still getting Halo at the time.
Not him but assassinations were always stupid
Actual retarded zoomer adhd take.
I can't take 5 seconds to humiliate the enemy, I must always be on the move!!!!!!!!!!
They already remade Halo 1
you have no proof of it even happening.
remaster and remake are two different things you twats
Two different things that both equal slop.
I wish they would do a Battlefront-classic style game mode. PvP with a hundred bots thrown into the mix.
Reach was the reason why following halo games were so bad
that would be sick
It looks so fucking bad in ue5 holy shit
the repetitiveness ruins it
i have a friend who works there and the stories he tells are absolutely insane
infinite launch delay was literally inevitable despite xbox team basically begging them to ship *something* for the launch and just patch it later, but the game was simply unsellable at the time
battle royale was pushed hard by higher ups despite the studio floor pushing against it, ended up having to be dropped anyway
rank and file teams keep being frustrated and burning out and leaving by execs not understanding what halo is supposed to be like and demanding stupid features
They can't make campaigns
Halo Infinite has a fuckton of narrative flaws due to the turn-heel development. Trust me, it could have been a lot worse, early demos had it imitating God of War linear walk-sessions with 'press X to enter thin passageway' shit, but it's the first game in the franchise where Chief's more expressive personality was done near-perfectly. In 1-3, he's just a catchphrase dispenser, and that's cool when you're a kid, but it lacks substance compared to the handful of good books involving him. And in 4-5, he's an emotionally stunted autistic sperg (the non-endearing kind).
they can't make multiplayer
Multiplayer in Infinite is pretty good, it just lacked content so hard on release that nobody stuck around. It didn't start getting meaningful updates until like 18 months in.
Chief's more expressive personality
nigga you gay
Blank slates are boring. If I wanted a blank slate, I'd play a stick man.
Only way to revitalize the series is to retcon 4 to infinite.
Halo is dead. The original Halo CE and 2 players are long gone, and new players don't care. I knew Halo was dead the moment my coworkers casually said "halo is gay now" right after the big #gaylo campaign. Halo is dead. Halo is not coming back. It's like the Star Wars novels or Star Trek: It's gone, depreciated media from an earlier time. There is no way to make Halo cool again, even if Microsoft wanted to. And Microsoft does not because they are getting out of the games business this generation and will not approve $600 million for a new AAA shooter game that doesn't include diversity, equity or inclusion.
remember this?
halo is dead. It's done, it's over. Halo is not cool and cannot be cool again after years of gay pride, woman, gamer girl and other weird gender bending stuff that turns off men and male teens. There is no way to go back. No amount of money can make a gay thing cool.
wolfkill and bonnie ross pushed for chief to be an emotional manbaby because they hate men
Again, Chief had a personality in the books long before 4 and 5 happened.
no he didn't, he was a generic soldier
3baby calling anyone a zoomer
Assassinations didn't exist before Reach, Zoom Zoom.
No, offense, but Halo CE-3 needed remakes, real remakes.
shut up trannoid
My proof is actual Xbox insiders that work directly with Microsoft and know the games getting released to PlayStation, face facts, you lost your source of information when Microsoft cleaned house at 343I.
halo been dead since 3 kek you niggas love eating slop
This, one of the things in video games that need to be heavily cut down on is story, when devs can't put their all into it, we end up getting better games, it's almost like John Carmack was right.
Remasters aren't remakes, faggot. Don't touch the original if you're just going fuck it up with some ugly ass art style layer on top.
Vaulting and sprinting is CRINGE and has no place in Halo. None. Period.
That's an assertion, not an argument.
Because it is on console and there is a limit to the level of finesse a human can achieve on a controller. But yes it is Baby's First Arena Shooter: Console Edition.
"It's not an arena shooter, but it also is an arena shooter"? Does the fact that the game has two different health systems (where most games have both of them as regenerating) not already indicate it isn't an arena shooter?
Call of Duty 4 is closer to an arena shooter than Halo.
What does this post even mean? Are you saying you shouldn't add story to a game unless you're all in, or are you saying what Carmack did about just barely slapping a story in like an old porn movie?
That also applies to remakes.
Remember how they removed the police stuff from Halo: MCC because "solidarity with BLM as they rioted across the country"? I am done with this franchise.
"W-well I!"
You're an anon with literally no credibility.
MUH RAYMAKES ARE BETUR
no they aren't, die bitch
remake 2
Live too long and....
Remakes are essentially new games retelling an old story.
You either remake it or you don't fucking touch it. You want them shove some crappy ass new layer to Halo 3 ruining its perfect art style so you can Blur's Marvelshit cutscenes with errors everywhere.
not an argument
There is arguing objective facts. Vaulting, sprinting, and powers that take you out of the shoot-nade-melee gameplay loop are NOT Halo and thus do not belong in Halo. They belong in COD.
I'm not the one with the leak, people like Tom Warren have it, there are several others as well. you're just salty because those furfag 343 employees got the boot.
The latter
UE5
343is art style is already plastic slop, UE5 gonna make it even worse + demonstrate their 0 understanding of light and shading
Call of Duty 4 is closer to an arena shooter than Halo.
Yeah if you play classic mode
There is arguing objective facts.
No, that's an opinion. And doubling down on your opinion doesn't make it a fact. You have to actually argue why.
I explained why. Anything that takes you out of gameplay is objectively bad game design and the first three Halo games were identified by the constant state of full player agency while in combat.
I dont want them to touch it nigger, go away stop replying to me, kill yourself
I don't know. A good story in a game can help motivate/hype you up while playing it. For example, I can't imagine MGR being as memorable as it is without Senator Armstrong and his speech.
nta but there's definitely some games that can be held up purely by their gameplay and ones that have their gameplay enhanced by story
True, it works for some, not for others, I guess.
In my opinion, gameplay and music are at the top of the ladder, but a good story can complement and make both of those way more impactful.
Gameplay > Music > Story
You can take away the story if you have good Gameplay and Music. You can take away the Music if you have a good story and gameplay. And if you just have music and story, you're making a fucking movie.
Gameplay above all, but true peak experiences have all of them.
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You can do all that without master chief. I agree new aliens and forerunner stuff needed to be introduced but having the Banished destroy the entire UNSC is fucking retarded when they couldn't even beat the one fleet in Halo Wars. Having them be main UNSC antagonists makes no fucking sense.
You can't, HE IS HALO, you don't get rid of the only selling point this series has because some losers online think they make up the whole fanbase. Master Chief's name gets plastered everywhere, he is a icon of video games, no one even knows who anyone outside of the Master Chief and Cortana are. Microsoft wants mascots to push the Xbox brand, they know Halo has no weight without the Master Chief. They tested it before with both Bungie and 343I and it was proven then. Now Halo needs more spin-off games but there is no need to ruin the one thing keeping the mainline games going.
Remember when they brought in Staten or whoever and were like "WOW look guys halo infinite is saved now we promise" and then the poop ship that is 343 caught fire and he unceremoniously left? Fucking hilarious.
I don't even care to play the old Halo games anymore.
Halo fans are delusional and stupid, and yes, that was funny as hell. Not even PlayStation will save Halo's MP.
People didn't stick around because there was fuck all in terms of content and they were barely able to do two barebones seasons in a whole year. They really started to hit a groove around season 4 but then MS wanted to move on to the next game.
It still was one of the most aesthetically abhorrent Halo games out there and the multiplayer was fucking awful, every problem with loadouts in reach was ramped up to 11 in 4. The only thing I remember fondly of 4 was the Mantis an even then it didn't really fit Halo that well.
while also the Endless add a new mystery never before seen in Halo
The Endless are boring as hell, just another empty primordial mystery race trying to recapture the magic of Forerunners but failing because they offer fuck all about them. Not to mention they already tried this shit with the Primordials.
Endless haven't even been revealed yet except one that may have been devolved by the Forerunners. I don't want to fight the Flood again when I already beat them in Halo 3. Plus, with the Flood coming back in the remakes, they'll just do everything they can with the Flood, at that point, why even bring them back after the 3 remake, no point.
Primordial
bookshit that hasn't even been shown in the games yet, who gives a shit if it's not in the games.
Endless haven't even been revealed yet
That's exactly the problem, they spent an entire damn game dangling an empty mystery box thinking people would be content with a glimpse for yet another "an ancient evil awakens" bullshit. 4 might have had a shitty story but at least the Prometheans felt kind of built up as far as mediocre antagonists went. Infinite spent the whole game gassing up these literally whos without really showing why anyone should care about them. The Harbinger was such a bland nothing character with a generic design that did nothing but deliver vague exposition because it's obvious they're just winging it and came up with the bare minimum in a sad attempt to pivot.
I love how their best idea of trying to hype up the Endless was the single most obnoxious method possible: by making them so inexplicably powerful in unexplained ways that they can "survive the Halo rings". That these previously hereto unmentioned super threats that even the warmongering Forerunners feared and sealed away, have some strange time powers that basically break the logic of the franchise that has never had anything time-related but cryopods that somehow ignore galactic extinction bombs.
Even a child who was mostly exposed to the games prior would probably call bullshit if they can think about a plot critically. I could live with canning the Created War shit because they wanted to back away from the bad reception of Halo 5, the pablo pilot and the Weapon reboot shit, sidelining nearly every single character and element they had prior to soft reboot the story, but the Endless were a fucking writing disaster, shit that makes MCU writing look intelligent.
You can't call the Endless lame until they're actually revealed. They're also now adding to the game to see if they're actually fun instead of using some bullshit lore excuse like the Prometheans who were never fun to fight and just added too many fucking weapons, grenades, and vehicles to a sandbox that only works with two major factions. The Endless are different but of course there needs to be a show don't tell thing going on in the future. Wonder what they can do with them in Unreal Engine 5. I like it because it's finally something different from the Covenant and Flood and not some random ass book crap no one has read. After so many god damn years, something introduced in a game because Halo is a VIDEO GAME series, not a book series.
I still say it's better than what Halo Wars 2 did to the series. If the Covenant Empire and Flood return to mainline games ignoring the remakes, I'm out of this series. At that point, it would be dead, killed by nostalgia. Microsoft Halo isn't Bungie Halo, so it's about time Microsoft start learning that and stop trying to recreate past success that they will never have. Build a new fanbase and stop focusing on a fanbase that is aging out.
It's a shame because the little multiplayer thing they had going on had a much more interesting beginning of a story, the stuff with Dinh was actually getting good before they straight up shitcanned it all.
MP story was shit, that's why Microsoft killed it. No one even fucking played it. Why do you guys always praise the most lamest shit in the series. If I wanted to play Crash Bandicoot with an ugly man-looking gorilla staring at me, I would play that.
Considering how Infinite went and how poorly everything seems to be going that they're harkening back to nostalgia all over the place even more than they were before? I wouldn't be surprised if the current time of things is just abandoned altogether and they use the rumored remakes to start over fresh. That way they can try to sell the only things that anyone actually cared about for the franchise over again.
You can't call the Endless lame until they're actually revealed
I can and I will if they're gonna put the focus on them for an entire game but reveal basically nothing of consequence about them. Plus hit the nail on the head on why they suck so much shit from a narrative perspective. 4 and 5 had kernels of interesting ideas brought down by horrendous writing. Infinite had fucking nothing and set up nothing beyond vagueries. Like I said, I'm almost positive that we barely get anything about the Endless because not even 343 knows what they are, they dangled an empty mystery box in the hopes they could fill it comes time for the next game. The problem is they didn't even bother to make the box enticing, they just brought out a plain cardboard box and said "you're gonna want to see what's in this next game" and that's it. At this point things are going nowhere fast and I don't know if I want to see more post Halo 3 Halo because they don't even know where to take the series.
Microsoft making 343 a team of random contractors who barely know what they're working on before they're replaced by another group is why Halo feels so disjointed and shitty now.
You type like a bully victim lmao
Okay then, come up with a new faction that's as compelling as "fanatic cargo cult mixed species alien empire".
They're not, if you've been paying intention, Halo Studios hasn't dropped anything related to the Banished or the Endless yet, they've been building on them as a set up to something else. I wouldn't be surprised if the remakes reference both the Banished and the Endless.
I can't suck until we fight them. The only thing that sucked about them is tell don't show.
4 and 5 had kernels of interesting ideas brought down by horrendous writing
If it isn't fun, I could give a single shit about it. What was Bungie's rule regarding enemies in Halo?
The Endless are a set up, most likely and introduction to space magic at its full extent. I wonder what they look like though and how they can survive Halo and why humanity's Ancestors were afraid of them along with knew about them before even the Forerunners.
I was the one bullying you 3babies back in the day. You were saved by the left and their reddit website which protected you from us while you created false narratives about the series and how people actually felt about it.
Anything can work from robots from the future, to alien space pirates, to shapeshifters, another alien empire, anything. Hell, even walking lizard with tails and cool weapons. You can even still use some of the old Covenant aliens and mix them in with some new ones that don't look human at all. Just make anything up, use your imagination
*attention
Halo 4 and 5 caused that because they're not Halo. Halo isn't its lore and never was.
Sprinting killed Halo because maps then had to be designed with sprinting and vaulting in mind meaning all the maps are boring bland open spaces.
Sprinting killed Halo multiplayer
Fixed that for you
Imagine if Doom moved on from demons because theyre le "repetitive" and was about killing Viatnamese people instead
The Dark Ages seems like an attempt to move it towards cosmic monsters, I may be wrong but it does seem like that's where nuid is taking it.
This is the most schizo shit I've read all day, impressive.
Theyre still demons, no one is telling 343 they can't create new aliens alongside the covenant
rank and file teams keep being frustrated and burning out and leaving by execs not understanding what halo is supposed to be like and demanding stupid features
That's literally a Dilbert Strip
True, I think they're actually doing that to differentiate the Banished from the Covenant a bit.
Says the retard from reddit, go back.
I absolutely hate Bonnie Ross with every fiber of my being. Stop defending woman leadership. They can't lead for shit. Eventually, man is going to have to come to this conclusion someday.
Good morning sirs
Go back, sar
Saars I am fitting in I said the thing
Go learn to use the toilet and stop liking poop, saars
Haha saars I said you're from reddit and to go back, that's what all of the Anons say saar
Gaylien still shits up halo threads with his fursona