Doom: The Dark Ages is unplayable on budget hardware

He bought a 3060, thinking it would last him through the generation

lol
lmao, even

Even UE5 games are less demanding than this.

ID software used to be the main proponents of software optimization, and were staunch vulkan supporters
Then Microsoft bought them, made them switch to directx12 and this happened

30 fps is playable

denuvo tax

Just enable DLSS

holy shit 9070xt btfos the 5080

id software have never shipped a dx12 game.

so the game cannot be played on a card with less than 8GB vram at all?

Even if it could, the frame rate would suck.

damn, my nephew wont be able to play with his 1660 super, he was looking forward to this

3080

84 fps

3080 can be found for budget prices nowadays so what you're saying isn't true

yes it can. you just turn down the texture pool size. at default it's 2gb. if you reduce it to 1.5gb 8gb cards run flawlessly.

And you communist pcfaggots have the audacity to make fun of Pls5 and SeX enjoyers having "no games" when you can't even ruj them

what does a 5090 do on 4K Ultra? is there any card that can play it at that resolution?

misinformation??? on MY Anon Babble???

They are still far more optimized than all UEslop games

ah ok

this game still uses vulkan, retard

Every game that pcfags complain about running bad runs EVEN WORSE on console

actually true

fucking unrealslop, if only they had used a proprietary engine this would never-
o-oh, never mind...

It is more likely than you think! In fact off the top of my head on PC no id software game has ever used directx. Doom 1 & 2 were lmao dos days. Quake was software and used some opengl shenanigans for the 3d accelerated version. From there it is opengl all the way until 2016 got a vulkan patch and eternal plus dark ages being vulkan only.

More embarrassing part is 4080 mogging 5080.

yea 4070 ti almost beats the 5080 too

shitty optimization in modern games impacts PC harder you dumb macaque. The overwhelming majority of Steam users can't even run this at 720p, let alone the 10-20% who have capable hardware

Why does it run so well on the 9070xt?

consolefag cope

Perfect balance between rasterization and RT performance.

You shouldn't trust benchmarks from a known AMD shill.

t. UserBenchmark

it is totally normal that a 9070xt and 7900xtx are nipping on the heels of a 4090 when in 99.9% of other games they are slower than a 4080 (regular, not even the super)

Numbers which nobody else has either.

thirdworld steamtroon cope

consolefag cope (again)

6700XT not there

So i bought last year and can possibly get 60 FPS on medium setting on some medieval parry slop? No thanks

Ill be honest, alot of the time i hear discussions about performance, a lot of the stuff goes over my head. Terminology like vram and occlusion and vulkan
I just know I have a 3080 and I believe thay means my performance will be ok.

Why don't they make a mod that removes raytracing?

where's the 1440p numbres

im curious if someone actually will find a way to disable it

the game will probably be a shimmer fest with out it i imagine, like turning off AA in a modern game ends up with picrel

Total PC tranny death

almost fell for 3.5 meme

buy sapphire 290 instead

lasts me entire console gen and then some, fantastic card

grab shitty msi 5070 right before crypto/covid price hike

upgraded to sapphire rx 9070 for 600 bucks

I think I did alright. Keep in mind most of Anon Babble is full of retarded animeposters.

RT is the future of gaming because it's way cheaper and better than baked lighting, it's smarter to start now and force hardware to use it than to be caught unprepared by the next generation. In a few years and a few more generations of GPUs, people would appreciate ID going full into pathtracing and RT in the long run.

2070 not even in the graph

Haha... c'mon guys... the 2070 is not THAT old haha....

RT is the future of gaming

More like an useless gimmick meant to make the consumer spend more by destroying raster performance

no card under 8gb vram is on that list

Gaming is the only 3D rendering still being done without raytracing. Everyone else moved on decades ago.

If any 40 series card can barely handle your game on medium settings at 1080p your game is optimized like shit, I don’t even care what it looks like. The mere fact that games are still benchmarked at 1080p in 2025 is proof of how low optimization standards have fallen.

Because it's the only one that cares about real time rendering performance, all other kinds of 3D graphics have the luxury of being able to wait for their frames

turns on DLSS-Q at turns settings low

so anyway that's 144fps on my 5 year old entry level gpu

pre-rendering vs real time rendering

That's the issue you retard. Even the strongest gpu's still lack the horsepower to achieve rt at acceptable performance.

RX 6600

welp glad i swapped out that card this year

I own a 7900 xtx. Stop being poor Jamal.

RT is the future of gaming because it's way cheaper and better than baked lighting,

Billion fucking games

Lighting has never been an issue

Most budget is spent on voice actors, accurately remaking some real life city and marketing

Most consumers are poorfags that can't bear the extra costs of having RT

Its like you imagine its a solution to a problem that never existed. When in actuality they just don't give a fuck, they did it just because.
Always on RT and upscaling necessary makes it seem like they fired everyone that knew their shit there, Mick Gordon included and just hired the usual AAA slop developers.

You're missing the point, the industry is building next generation hardware to be better at RT than raster. In 20 years your top of the line nVidia GPU will be shit at playing old games, just like 5090s are shit at physix today.

Is it forced hardware RT or just software RT?

baked lighting takes months of processing to be done and adds hundreds of GB of data into the game, with hardware finally getting powerful enough it's smarter to just turn on forced RT and skip all those problems and get benefits instead.

tired of hearing this shit, games still take 6 years to make even with RT, if anything they're taking longer

you are the ideal consumer

i bought a 9070xt actually, so im chilling and dabbing on y'all poorfags

Yeah because they still have to bake in the lighting for people like you with 10 year old GPUs.

because gaming is real time rendering retardo

better than baked lighting,

not for real time rendering retardo. and never will be. what you are correct about is that it's cheaper. so publishers will get to lay off their lighting artists and save a bunch, but you as the consumer will carry that burden of having to buy a thousand dollar gpu to run games that can't match the graphical fidelity of games of the yesteryear outside of marketing stills without needing x3 the rendering power and fake frames, which again, comes out of your pocket. not the publishers

Lighting has never been an issue

you've never made a game, tard
I still remember the story of how sega had to depower a whole city block with hundreds of PCs to try to finish baking the lighting on sonic unleashed and they still couldn't make it in time

i have a 4080 super retard, stop projecting

NO SAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE RTX IT IS NOT NECESSARY

SAAAARRR

raytracing looks like ass. baked lighting is far superior

Rajeesh projecting because he has to shit on the street

many such cases!

I assumed this was the usual 4k raytracing and upscaling chart and thought you were overreacting but it's fucking 1080p medium. How the fuck.

Isn’t PhysX a completely outdated solution from a time when CPUs were generally overloaded, so Nvidia decided to calculate some physics on the gpu instead? What would even be the point of making sure newer gpus run PhysX well? Can you even tell the difference in performance?

youtu.be/412Vr848fdw?t=35
You tell me

baked lighting takes months of processing to be done and adds hundreds of GB of data into the game

Doom Dark Ages size - more than 100GB, largest its ever been in its franchise

No benefits ever found anywhere

Still pretending its the solution to bunch of problems that never existed in first place. Time to accept ID Software fired everyone and hired bunch of AAA slop devs

Doom Dark Ages still has baked lighting. Path tracing is what you use to avoid that. "Ray tracing" just means you're using ray traced light sources for dynamic lighting. Path tracing is when literally everything is ray tracing.

Is RX 6800 good? I stream to my steamdeck often. I'm on RTX 2060 atm.

Garbage engine.

It's game-specific. The new cards mog the old generally speaking. This engine in particular is a clusterfuck for Nvidia.

Doom Dark Ages still has baked lighting

It literally doesn't, it completely replaced it with RTGI and that is why RT is always on for this instalment.
You tried to justify solutions to problems that never existed in first place you don't even know what you are saying anymore.
People always cope that everyone is done for a reason and it has to mean something

levels are completely static yet still need RT

I don't get it. Surely it can't be that much work for artist to just fake the lighting? It worked in the past, why does it suddenly not work?

It's so over for me

The hardware for playable fps while doing raytracing just isn't here yet. They should quit pushing this shit already

>He bought a 3060, thinking it would last him through the generation

The 3060 was a 1080p60fps GPU from two generations ago, five years ago. If you're expecting it to breeze through every game in the next half decade you're extremely entitled.

>Billion fucking games

>Lighting has never been an issue

fuck off idiot

It should be something that can be fixed by drivers.

1.8tb

I see you were a victim of the shady practice that assumes 1kb = 1000b without telling you

baked

games mostly use dynamic lighting

Yes, it is normal for XTX to stick near 4090 outside of RT of course. Is your next line going to be "AMD has shit drivers"?

Path tracing is what you use to avoid that.

No it isn't. You don't even need ray tracing at all to avoid baked lighting.

They took away all the fun movement so 30fps should be fine for this game.

It is not normal.

Wtf is this shit?
I paid £1000 for it.

based 4080 owner

15fps is fine actually

I have a 5700xt.... How fucked am I?

OP:

119 vs. 137, +15%

Your graph:

112 vs. 133, +18%

The game is definitely AMD-favored, but not by THAT much.

The game is hardcoded to not run on your GPU (pre RTX cards for Nvidia, pre 6000 series for AMD) purely for planned obsolescence.

Is this with or without ray tracing?

Some form of raytracing is forced. Probably with the lowest RT settings is my guess. The lowest preset doesn't perform that much better than medium in any case.

in this thread we cling to outdated solutions

You can force software Raytracing on Linux. Indiana Jones is also technically "unsupported" because it requires RT accelerators, but it runs fine even on Vega cards: youtube.com/watch?v=cT6qbcKT7YY
No idea if you can do this on Windows.

Raytracing is enabled by default. Path tracing isn't available yet.

mfw proud owner of a 3060Ti rugpulled by Jensen

global illumination doesn't replace baked light you mongol.

is this you? you ran from the other thread to cope here?

Given we know AMD cannot into ray tracing I think it is clear that OP's chart should be held with suspicion.

wtf why's 9070xt so strong?

4070ti super as fast as the 5080

nvidias 5000 drivers must be fucked

it should be able to handle 100-120 fps on low + dlss, as long as there is not 8gb bottleneck

Good ray tracing

Death to nvidia

Didn't expect my slop card (4070ti super) to go head to head with the fucking 5080

Then i won't.

code of the game is optimized for consoles running on AMD

I'm not playing in those conditions, id will get my money in 2-3 years once I've upgraded.

Kek I spent near 1K on a 5070ti only to get mogged like this, not that it matter since I don't play parryslop

Clearly they can, as long it's not Nvidia specific RT code that is.

Feels good man.

stuck with fsr2

oh no no

And why does it beat the 5070 Ti which has slightly better theoretical performance across the board.

stuck with fsr2

I'm not.

Loving the generational leap from a 4070S to a 5070Ti
Absolutely ebin

What the fuck are those completely random numbers lmao
Also reviews are saying the game runs well
Not that it matters since I wont play this trash

Yeah right. Hard pass for me. I'll probably try it on sale when I get my new PC in 2 years from now.

Driver devs must have been replaced by vibe coders at Nvidia

i also have 7900 xtx. how's the latest driver going? i keep hearing bad shit, im still on 24.8.1

Works for me. It isn't like I can play every game extensively to test but i've not had any issues in my use cases.

I never understood why the system requirements keep getting higher and higher? This will only exclude more people from buying and playing your game. Shouldn't optimizing be a priority since it will at least run on a system that meets the bare minimum requirements?
What are the developers thinking?

I never understood why the system requirements keep getting higher and higher?

You know what is bullshit? Far cry 1 won't run on my voodoo 2 sli setup.

isn't the pc port literally sponsored by nvidia?

Hoping for software solutions such as DLSS to pick up the slack, notice how the shittiest examples like MHW barely mention native resolutions in their recommended specs. This is compounded by the fact that DLSS also works well to attenuate problems in modern engines such as dithering, shimmering and others.
There is going to be breaking point where the hardware at "reasonable" prices isn't going to keep up with modern AAA visual fidelity+incompetence, but for now unoptimized garbage is perfectly fine because people standards are quite low (again, see MHW's massive success).

watched a youtube video of some guy who had a 5090rtx

Couldn't run borderlands 2 with physx (ran below 15fps) because the card lacks the component that is necessary to run it efficiently.

What a joke. As the years go by, all we get are diminishing returns.

3060ti should still serve you well for this game though

youtube.com/watch?v=JMxgzw9HvN8

the guy is playing on low settings if you want to skim thru. doesn't look bad to me. and as long as you're upgrading, don't buy nvidia shit. they are basically trying to kill gaming in 2025

Yes.

Then why does it run so poorly on nvidia?

You don't need 32bit hardware support my guy. The only good thing about this is nvidia did actually finally open source all of the old physx library so at least if someone wanted to fuck around with it and possibly make fan patches they can.

'cuz id software actually knows what they are doing and have a long history of not leaning into propriety technology.

AMD still win from both nextgen consoles and devs focusing on them.
They won't rewrite the engine just because nvidia also throw them some cash.

dont listen to the retard. microjew is xbox. xbox is ayymd.

Because it's still optimized for consoles first, which are amd boxes.
that + horseshit nvidia drivers currently

I have a 3060 ti and was thinking about upgrading but I just can't bring myself to do it, I only play at 1080p and the new gpu are so bad, what games are even worth the upgrade?

finally open source all of the old physx library

Only PhysX 3, which these games don't use.

Doom 2016 ran buttery smooth on my i5 processor and 970 card. Dark Ages doesn't look any more advanced graphically yet requires stronger hardware. How is this possible? Surely game developers don't make backroom deals with hardware manufacturers to increase spec requirements artificially, they would never do that right

now compare the amount of ps5s to the amount of ps4s and ps3s

And it's bad for business when the only people who can play these games have pc's that are worth thousands of dollars. Limiting your customers.
They don't need to go down the fortnite/WOW route of simplifying the graphics but at least optimize the size of the asset files and write better algorithms for performance so that even a 1000-2000 series cards can run it. Think of the profits mr shekelstein!

wait the game FORCES raytracing??? it can't even be launched without it?

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

Does it run on eck

They're expecting you to play it with DLSS/FSR enabled. Enable it and it runs quite well on 5 year old GPUs.

t.

'cuz id software actually knows what they are doing and have a long history of not leaning into propriety technology.

This game literally has mandatory RT.

6600 bros...

Dark Ages doesn't look any more advanced graphically

You're basing this on compressed Youtube footage. Don't be like that.

I don't think you know what RT is or why it isn't some nvidia only technology.

Needs DLSS to run well

Not leaning into proprietary technology

60fps on a 5 year old midrange gpu using the latest and greatest technology isn't running well

Look anon, your decade old laptop is not a super computer like you think it is.

not that anon, but mandatory RT sounds like extremely lazy or incompetent devs that literally refused to do baked lighting from the outset as a design principle. if they cut corners there, where else did they cut corners? it's like hiring someone to build your house knowing that they skip foundations because it's too time consuming.

How much better than 2016 could it possibly look, which already had pretty damn good visuals 9 years ago. Holy shit 9 years have already passed

put setting on max

put 4k

put dlss performance

set lossless to 4x

oh yeah its gaming time

the game runs on native medium 1080p at 60 fps on a 5 year old midrange (3060ti), safe to say it will run double that on low + dlss.

that said it would run even better without the forced hardware memetracing shit, that is entirely on microsoft/zenimax. all their recent games required hardware memetracing.

Holy shit 9 years have already passed

latest and greatest technology

Such as?

Ray tracing

Metro Exodus is 6 years now, anon. It's not this revolutionary technology any more.

go from games that can play on a potato to games that require a 5090

microsoft definitely did id dirty after acquisition.

I 'member when you needed a pentium to play doom at 35fps - if you owned a 486 you can go fuck yourself for full speed gameplay.

35 FPS with a software renderer is basically equivalent to 60 FPS in a modern renderer in terms of latency. Combined with a typical CRT running at 70Hz, it would have been very snappy.

you are so deluded and retarded

Not that anon, but this is UE5 on a 3060.
youtu.be/KNjJ59mqZmw

The 4070super continues being the patrician choice for GPU's.

Yes but the pentium was the most powerful and expensive cpu mortals could buy at the time. The cpus people actually used ran the game like shit.

7600XT

It's all over
I bet GTA6 will run without an issue on such hardware

Can't get 144fps in new doom on a fresh 5070 on a fucking 1080p on a FUCKING MEDIUM

the 3060 on 1080p medium here averages 60fps while the image says it would average 54fps on 1080p medium

Bro why do they keep adding shit that makes the games run even worse?
Do the big publishers have a competition on who can make the worst running game?
They does even look better. But are still getting bigger.
I bet this is gonna be 120gb minimum. For a fucking fps.

all that to look and play like borderlands with a gritty reshade lmao more like DOOMED

Jesus christ, this game isn't going to feel smooth at all running a 4k 240 OLED.

Weren't 2016 and Eternal exceptionally well optimized? What the fuck happened?

Well this is from the latest techpowerup review data.

techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-9070-steel-legend-oc/14.html

GB means RAM or VRAM?
I ave 4060Ti. my RAM is 16GB but VRAM 8gb

Depends on the model. There were 100MHz 486's that were miles ahead of the low-end trash.

forced raytracing on

looks the same as doom 2016

this industry is a scam

Id tech engine supposed to be BASTION of good optimization above all this 20FPS DLSS Monster Hunter Wilds tier slop. It has fallen. It's all over. The future of 12 FPS DLSS OFF > 60 FPS (RTX 9090) UPSCALE from 240p DLSS ON is real.

It is a gpu benchmark and is listing the vram capacities of the test cards.

it's like hiring someone to build your house knowing that they skip foundations because it's too time consuming.

Keeping a legacy render path is like building a stone house but adding some wood between the walls so you still need to worry about it rotting.
Around 60% in the Steam HW survey have an RT capable GPU. But I assume they know what percentage of people on non-RT hardware buy new full price games and wouldn't do this if it was a significant portion.

forced ray tracing in idtech8
literally cant get 144 frames with low settings and dlss/fsr on performance no matter the hardware, even top tier

Games aren't getting less optimized, hardware just isn't keeping up.
Doom Eternal also didn't shine on then 5-year old hardware. The difference is that upgrading actually meant something. What do you get with a brand new card for $380 today? A measly 128-bit bus with 8GB of VRAM. What's the point?

Games aren't getting less optimized, hardware just isn't keeping up.

Games don't look visually impressive despite their hardware requirements. And not only graphically but physics and AI are all dogshit compared to old games.

Meanwhile people are playing Clair Obscur at an average 49fps on 1060s

1080p

medium

RX 7900 XTX

24gb VRAM

can only muster that many frames

Grim.....what the fuck happened?

For the visuals games deliver they require retarded hardware

And not only graphically but physics and AI are all dogshit compared to old games.

Except they literally improved that in this game.

If you for some reason have a GPU with lesser than 8GB VRAM then you may have way bigger problems than just that. You probably should wageslave until you can get a used bare minimum PC. Eternal running on your GPU was nothing short of a miracle. TDA likely wouldn't have been able to run on it regardless of forced raytracing.

The poorfag whining Steam is going to be glorious.

I just upgraded to a RX 9070 XT, so I will be running the game with fantastic frame rates. See ya later, poor fags. :)

with fantastic frame rates

Literally can't hold 144fps on 1080p MEDIUM

1080p

medium

WHAT THE FUCK?

i bought one too
that's no excuse to let your standards slip so hard you accept rayjeet slop performing this badly

1% low is 121 FPS

So literally perfect for a 120Hz lock that modern TV's support? Feels good.

20 years later and we're still at crysis 1 destruction level

I refuse to believe my Sapphire 6600 can't run 1080 medium at a locked 60

Let me guess, you *need* more?

yes i want my rocket launcher to carve a dent on the ground so i can launch another rocket and crouch inside it to evade enemy fire

Doom Faction

better than doomk souls parrying

is this the first id game that doesn't run well lol

Doom Dark Ages still has baked lighting

That's a lot of knowledge about the game that didn't even come out.
Which exact part of in-game lighting is baked in Doom DA?

3080 10g already this low

ugh

I hate ray tracing so much it's unreal, bros

Boy I sure love ray tracing tanking videogame performance since its inception while not even making them look better at all.

Yes.

If u hate ray tracing u hate reality. Stop this escapism. Touch grass and breathe light.

optimization in gaming is dead

hate reality

stop escapism

you hate being smart

muh never obsolete 2060

There will be a driver release better optimized for the game. Have some faith.

nvidia's shitty drivers aren't the biggest problem here, at most you'll see a 20% uplift for the 50 series
it's entirely on microshit for pushing it through the door

It's not just GPU, games are becoming much more CPU demanding

RT is the future of gaming because it's way cheaper and better than baked lighting

AC Unity has better lighting than today's games, and it came in 2014. I'm playing Tlous Part 2 right now, and that shit is better than many RT games.

the x3d effect, amd has managed to make a masterpiece of engineering and now everyone is getting sloppy

retard

If PS6 has x3D then yeah, it'll only keep getting more demanding. I just hope GTA 6 is optimized

that would seem like a major waste of amd's resources, consoles never target anything above 60 and that's why you want x3d

4070 Super

running at 4k

66 fps with quality upscaling

that's actually quite good; 4k is a complete meme resolution that got pushed by TV manufacturers because they could finally make 4k screen for affordable prices despite GPUs and consoles being unable to deliver that

the entire industry should have done the same thing when they went from 720p-1080p and just made 1440p the new target resolution, which interestingly enough is the sweet spot between FPS and visuals for most GPU's in the current year despite 4k launching several years ago

if a 12GB card is able to hit over 60fps in a brand new game running at 4k then that is good, upscaling or not

I just hope GTA 6 is optimized

Rdr2 runs on fucking base PS4. Rockstar is probably cooking again.

Why are you writing in third-person?

Yeah crappy 30 FPS and checkerboarding, today that plays even worse on high end OLED tvs/monitors. They never patched it for current consoles neither.

RDR2 is the most barren empty world in any video game ever. Of course it'll run on dogshit hardware. fucking GTA 5 has more NPC's and more buildings than RDR2 and that game ran like ass on its original platforms.

We have nothing to do but wait for china to release a 1024bit bus GPU with 64-128gb VRAM. We will never see real innovation from AMD or NVidia ever again that isn't gaytracing delusions.

Yeah crappy 30 FPS and checkerboarding

Standard console experience. It still looks great. meanwhile shit like cyberpunk can't even work on base ps4.

Differnce is PC release is delayed to who knows when and console players don't even get any update for next-gen consoles

I have a 2080 and I preordered it. Did I fuck up?

Weird decision. Only zoomers play Zoom, and they're also completely and utterly inept about technology. The chances of them having a machine capable of playing this are slim to none.

medium native TAA

51fps on a budget card that's 2 generations old

But that's not too bad? Just go from medium to low and turn on DLSS.

It's a 4 year old entry level graphics card
People in 2007 couldn't even run Crysis at all in 4 year old cards, and people who bought a 8800GTS to play it got like 25-30 fps.

aifags get 10000 dollar cards with 64 gb of vram but you'll never see this in gaming because Nvidia has fostered a defense force of onions creatures who say le 8 gb is enough to defend paying 2000 dollars gaymer cards

preordering digital games

yes you did

Crysis actually looked amazing in comparison to everything else. Doom looks identical to all the other AAA slop in terms of graphics. There are no more leaps in progress anymore.

Crysis really shouldn't be the standard to compare anything, it was unique in a lot of ways when it released. UE3 games were coming out at the same time and ran pretty well on potato hardware.

AAA on PC gaming is unplayable for anyone on a budget

We've known this for years. Also PC GPUs are going up in prices again tweaktown.com/news/105188/tsmc-fab-prices-in-the-us-surge-with-nvidia-gpu-price-rises-for-geforce-rtx-and-ai-gpus/index.html Enjoy shitposters. You're not poor, aren't you shitposters? Weren't those your exact words? You. Aren't. Poor.

PC GPUs going up! 16GB VRAM from 600 dollars to let's make it 800 dollars!

If even Rockstar (A team) fail it will be total downfall of optimization for entire AAA industry. No any hopes will left.

These AAA games that look and run as good are they in the room with us now?

is preordering a digital game and worse then buying a digital game when it comes out? Minus waiting for reviews I dont see the issue

They should offer better highest quality textures. Can't even fill 12GB VRAM. lol.

being a guaranteed bag of money is the most self hating position you could take
allowing even the slightest amount of negative press about the game can alter your position

If it saves time and cost why is the game more expensive?

Negative press? Wait what the fuck happened, I've been offline for 3 days what did they do to my doom!? This was a guaranteed GOTY nominee, what happened??

Njudea pushes for RT to be a requirement

gets BTFO by AMD

What's the next step of their master plan?

The path traced version with unplayable framerates will restore their relative lead.

There is 100% a conspiracy that developers are being paid off to purposely unoptimize games. If this industry had real journalists they would expose this rampant faggotry

will run on 1050ti i3 7000
eternal did and 2016 did
otherwise its shit

That chart is for comparing video cards, not getting to know how well the game runs on your video card. Because any sane person would turn on upscaling and increase their fps by 50% instead of using fucking TAA

The 6600 was a potato from day one.

I love watching PC_Chuds freak out trying to find out if ur 3000+ box can play a game while console chads just got to see if it released on ps5.

realism

don't care, also wish nudoom had the same walk speed of old doom

Yep, no need for us to worry about game perform-ACK

I game in 1920x1080 and turn all that retarded frilly graphics settings off (raytracing, glare, bloom, vignette, etc.) and even turn shadows to low or off. I think my 3060 will be fine.

You can't turn RT off in dark ages lol.

doesn't even dip below 50

NOOOOO I MUST SPEND MOAR MONEYZ!!!!!

So why not call it doom enlightenment?

Dark Ages because of the realistic shadows which are now black instead of grey or blue.

PCfags

hurr durr why would anyone own a console when pc is better???? console games are holding gameing and graphic back!!!!!

Also Pcfags

hurr durr what do you mean i can’t play this on my 10 year old toaster??????? unoptimized trash downvoting on steam!!!!!!!!

Why are you faggots like this?

This game doesn't even look better than last doom. How is it so demanding. What is going on.

Muh youtube compression

You can tell the difference between a PS3 game and a PS4 game through YouTube videos.

DLSS has been disastrous for video games.

If you want a car analogy there are people who drive rickety ass busted cars and people who drive executive class shit. The latter making fun of public transportation makes sense on some level.

Saves PC gayming

Yep, sometimes Aymdee is just based
Ordered one this weekend and will get it just in time for DOOM
I also can't wait to try and play Hitman on 4k 60fps ultra settings and everything

Because 9070xt is currently the best price/perfomance GPU money can buy
Only downside being that it "only" has 16gb of VRAM compared to the 20 and 24gb of the 7900xt and 7900xtx respectively
Unless you are rich (or retarded) and don't mind shelling out 2000 bucks on a fucking GPU, you have no reason not to get a 9700xt

Not even the 2080Ti is on the graph anon

Same as RX 6800/4060Ti

lol why must PC_Chuds make shit up to try to prove a """point""" just admit you wasted 2 grand on gaining an extra 5fps already

Goyvidia so desperate, they had all major YT reviewers shilling their overpriced garbage

Yeah bro, I'm totally gonna spend 3000 bucks on a single piece of fucking hardware
Jesus fucking christ, the actual Dark Ages™ of PC gaming, and there are no brakes

Doesn’t really work as an analogy since the peasant PC players are holding back graphics and scale probably even more so than the console players which will get an incremental industry standard upgrade approximately every 7 years, which is not guaranteed with the 3rd world PC player base.

and people who drive executive class shit

yet you see them pull into the drive thru at mcdonalds, curious.

2070 super

who gives a shit about fps on 4k ultra --

1080p on medium

the fuck

meanwhile shit like cyberpunk can't even work on base ps4.

That's called incompetent developers. RDR2 (way more going on in that game 2077) ran fine on the PS4.

its fucking JOEVER

either drop $3k on a overpriced GPU that will last you 2-3 years or you buy a dogshit console and play games at 30fps.

its unironically over for us frugal fags.

RDR2 (way more going on in that game 2077) ran fine on the PS4.

To this day, this is still the biggest technical achievement I've ever seen in gaming
Literal eldritch witchcraft
Even better, they made it run on a fucking Xbox One FAT
And the game doesn't look bad at all on PS4/Xbone, blurry of course, but still real good when you take into consideration the PS4/Xbone specs

Graphics settings are almost placebo in that game. Only resolution matters.

As frugal fags we just need to skip AAA slop or learn to play at 30fps again
I'll be playing Doom at a locked 30

980ti

honestly i just need to fucking move out of this major city. rent is too fucking high and i cant believe i fell for the tech IT meme.

If PS6 has x3D

Consoles have bad thermals as is, how are they going to cool an X3D chip?

Not him but ZEN5 X3D is easy to cool because AyyMD flipped their design.

the absolute state

its just only going to get worse isnt it?
how much is a 60xx gonna go for? like $4000?

That's hilarious considering how well optimized the first two games were. I pulled 60fps on a 970 on 'ternal, and didn't even need to crank much down aside from shadows.

Remember when ID was famous for stupidly optimized games?

Eternal running on less than 8GB vram was nothing short of a miracle

It was at 60 on 3.5gb, retard.

AMD gimping games once again.

X3D's are honestly kinda juiced right out the gate, and at this point, AMD expects everyone to do the standard negative PBO offset undervolting until they find something sane. My 9800 is excellent under air (Fuma 3) at -15, and if they were asked to target console specs/heat, they could probably whip a contard X3D up, but this would add another $100-$200 to a console everyone expects to have retardo pricing and a GPU relying on upscaling

Worse than consoles

Why even bother? Just run the game at 720p if you have to but get at least 60

cant believe i fell for the tech IT meme.

I feel for the medical meme and regret not going tech. Is every 4 year college degree/registration job dead end with a barely livable wage unless you’re an engineer or something?

Doom 3

or quake, or doom 1993

Do MEGATEXTURE issues count as performance?

How the fuck is this not complete false advertising?

Nothing false about it.

of course it's a complete lie
Lmao

frameslop

but I thought john carmack was le legendary programmer

Can anyone with a 5000 series run vulkaninfo in cmd and tell me what version they have? For some reason mine was on version 1.1 despite installing the latest drivers. Wondering if that's what the problem is with Blackwell.

Legendary for shipping games that run like shit on mainstream hardware maybe.

youtu.be/cDUDxcKcO3k?t=120

you have to go to job fairs and network your ass off to make something of yourself
t. didn't do that and am wagie not working in his major field

The system requirements increase more than hardware gets better. This is the reason why modern games need fake frame gen. The gap will keep growing until the AAA video game market collapses (anyday now oh my god make it happen plox )

post your specs

Vulkan Instance Version: 1.4.303

I guess it was just me. The latest version is 1.4.313 though.

I haven't upgraded in a while.

This shit is playable on a series s, if you have a shitbox weaker than that thing you shouldn't even bother with pc gaming

It's easier to upgrade my PC when I don't pay for multiplayer and have a day 1 20 dollar discount on every new game, let alone anything older than a year

i don't think it mattered that it didn't run on someones pre internet machine with less than a million transistors because none of those games sold as well as people think. they were popular because of "piracy"

9800x3d

5080

1080p

yup, it's gaming time

Inconvenient facts are made up

Keep coping.

besides the retard schizos who pretend devs who account for the existence of upscalers make unplayable videogames, whats their system upgrade timescale

like you cant go

I have no income that I can use to buy pc parts for a decade

its societys fault I cant play games

I too love smearing vaseline all over my monitor

>its societys fault I cant play games

It is, though. They keep buying the stuff I want so the only stock left is from scalpers.

play it on 720p, all low settings

5700xt not even on the list

oh wait I forgot I don't even play videogames anyway so who cares

You can get Doom bundled with a 5000 series if you bought it from select stores after 30.4
Bought one before that? Too bad. Not eligible.

He can't handle 30 fps

Grim.

If you can spend 1500 bucks on a fucking GPU then I'm pretty sure can spend an additional 80 bucks on a fucking game

I just called Amazon within the return window and they refunded me $100. Got a 5070 Ti for under $700.

why play in 720p when you can upscale from 720p

Those power lines

powerlines look bad when upscaled from 480p to 1440p

wow, who'd have thunk it? Still looks better than 720p native lol. Which was the whole point, I would never in a million years recommend upscaling from fucking 480p, I'm just saying why play at 720p when you can upscale from it using dlss?

Didn't ask for your gender transition soliloquy.

My rx6600 can run every single good game at 60+, no point in getting a new gpu.

Still looks better than 720p native

Native

It's not native by definition if the output doesn't match. 720p in a 720p format is native. Bilinear upscaling is still upscaling.

So when that anon said "Play in 720p" what he actually meant was break out your ancient television from 2007 that topped out at 720p to play The Dark Ages? He's adamantly against Bilinear upscaling and was talking about matching that res with a true native 720p TV? I say TV because I'm not even sure 720p exclusive monitors exist, I'm pretty sure even the earliest flat monitors went above that.

Applies to 5070 upwards. It's a pretty sizable fraction of the total value.

Series S 120fps Doom Eternal

He's adamantly against Bilinear upscaling and was talking about matching that res with a true native 720p TV?

I mean, there's a reason why integer upscaling is a big deal, which is doable with 720p. Still not native of course, though the anon didn't make that claim.

But to seriously answer your question, it's simply more performant to not use DLSS or FSR. I unironically played at 50% resolution with bilinear upscaling on my old toaster because I needed to squeeze every single frame out of the games at all costs. I didn't care how horrible it looked.

At wxga maybe.

expedition 33 will destroy this shit

suuuuuuuuuuure, whatever helps you sleep better at night clutching your gtx 1650.

50 fps is still better than ps5 and kikebox s performance.

impressive, but preset K actually kinda sucks in motion, preset J is noticeably better.

He is, his code is famously so well optimised his own team goes "wtf", but he did it to push visuals even more

5080

1080p

Cringe

Did nvidia update the drivers? They seems a lot better now for nvidia according to newer random benchmarks I've found. 5070ti matching the 9070XT, 4080S faster than 7900XTX, aka what should have been the expected result.
That means every nvidiot gpu should benefit from this. Techpower/spot etc did those benchmark too soon.

3070 8gb

allmost 60 fpc

Not great, not terrible.

But God forbid I get to RT 5090... I won't play Doom, I won't play games, I'll just download Stable Defusion and generate furry porn non-stop until my computer burns out or I die of dehydration. Maybe I'm just a retarted cummer, but I'll die doing what I love.

They used drivers provided by nvidia. I press X to doubt on your rando youtube numbers.

*black screens*
Great feature novidio.

Benchmark was done before the latest NVIDIA and AMD driver updates

You all should know by now to NOT pre-order, to NOT play on day 1 and to NOT play the vanilla version.

preset K actually kinda sucks in motion, preset J is noticeably better.

I did not know that, do you have any comparison shots that shows this?

If a fast paced shooter can't run at over 120fps on a modern midrange card, then it is a failure in software engineering. It doesnt matter how shitty you think the RTX 3060, 4060, Radeon 6600 or 7600 are. They are the hardware that people actually have and actually use. If your game can't run on those specs then you are in the wrong for not targeting your product to your actual audience. It's simple as that. It's like if Toyota made a Corolla with F1 suspension then blamed people for not having F1 asphalt in their countries.

This is the price you pay for gaytracing son.

UE3 games were coming out at the same time and ran pretty well on potato hardware.

Lol
Lmao even

That comparison

You are a confirmed poorfag and/or thirdworlder. Join us in the 21st century, play on low settings, wait for the first patch with the new drivers, or just don't play.

Consolefags are all phoneposters.

UE3 games were coming out at the same time and ran pretty well on potato hardware.

name some games

Sounds like an nvidia problem.

It's not a shooter it's parryslop, 60 is more than enough. If people beat ZOOOM Eternal on consoles at 60 with a controller than 60 is more than enough for The Slow Ages