Why are the devs "philosophy" so retarded and hypocritical? They're acting like somekind of elder god is manipulating your ass to buy games on sale.
Factorio
They're eastern europes OP. If you ever had the displeasure with one you'd know that decades of commie-raping turned their brains mush. Thats why they keep trying to genocide each other while not once moving their asses to fix their shithole.
They propably sniffed too much reddit fart.
those jester awards
Maybe the awards werent such a bad idea.
Why does Factorio need to go on sale?
Why do I need to sniff my own fart
Sounds based to me.
Our game is worth this amount, fuck off, we're not gonna reward people hunting for discounts fucking over the people that just want to play the game at any time
He's probably wrong that it's not worth it in the long run, I assume the nerds crunched the numbers on this shit, but he simply doesn't want to be part of what is essentially the original FOMO exploiting.
"I would like to buy this luxury product."
"Very well, here is my price."
"That is too much, you need to sell me it for cheeper!"
"No."
"FUCK YOU! HYPOCRITE! GREEDY! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! GIVE ME PRODUCT! GIVE ME IT! HERE IS 10K WORD ESSY ON WHY YOU MUST GIVE ME DAT FO FREE!"
Why are you niggers like this? Buy the game, or pirate it I don't give a fuck but crying about the price is subhuman behaviour.
What is retarded about this? Why do games have to go on sale?
luxury product
games
Retard spotted
I have almost 630 hours in this game, honestly for the price I paid I got a bargain.
how is that inconsistent with their philosophy, i thought their philosophy was to only raise the price over time.
You don't need games to live retard. They are not a utility or a necessity, this makes them a luxury item.
I’m sure none of these reasonable individuals were in threads crying about the Switch 2’s price, the increasing cost of games as a whole, or the tariff situation. Nope, surely not. Because that would be hypocritical.
Just say you like money you disingenuous cunt
Based, they should make it cost $100 to make the entire internet loose their minds.
reminder that they rised the price from 20 bucks to 35 bucks because "inflation"
Apperently their logic doesnt count when it comes to rising their own prices.
It's literally just typical eastern europe bullshit to milk retards.
Yeah I don't care about the Switch 2, I don't play nintendo games for one and if a game is too expensive I just pirate it or don't play it. There are thousands of games to play and complaining about pricing is a waste of time. People can sell games at whatever the fuck price they want.
Just pirate retard, game has no drm
That's also not hypocrisy. The game is sold at decently steep but realistic indie game price. Even if the game were sold at 60 bucks, it would still not be hypocritical. If it goes beyond that, then we can talk.
Now, with that said, you accidentally touched on something there, because it is worth noting that the philosophy the OP is talking about is somewhat similar to Nintendo's philosophy. They barely ever do sales by modern standards. It's not that they literally don't do them, but they very rarely do them and when they do it's extremely rarely above 50% off. That's definitely part of the reason why people got even more pissed off than usual when Nintendo raised the prices even further.
are you implying that life hasn't gotten more expensive in Czechia the past 10 years?
Videogames ARE a luxury item.
thing i own has increased in value
i feel richer already
30 to 35.
You know if they were just honest and said "we want the money" I would be ok with it, but all that bullshit about hurrdurr muh devaluation and durrhurr muh early adopters paid more so it would be unfair to charge less and hurfdurf muh [industry greedy CEO marketing talking points].
Hell, it's just about the principle. If they raised the price to 60 and then discounted to 55 I would buy it instantly, but I won't support this bullshit coping and lying.
That said, I have only reached the third planet in SA and already start feeling burnt out. Is it worth going further?
we want to be hecken honest...
but we will also increase the price of our digital product because of (((((inflation)))) !!!
There's only one planet in san andreas
Hes not necessarily wrong but not necessarily right either.
Putting the game on sale while its still in active development and receiving updates is wrong, a 5%-10% off sale or something small with a big new update to bait people in can work but generally you shouldn't put it on sale.
But after development is done, the game is finished, its been finished for ages, nothing is changing, not putting it on sale just means people forget about it and never buy it who would see the sale, remember, and buy it.
I'm sure when they are finished with factorio and are trying to release a new game they will put it on sale, if not, they truly are retarded.
sure but it is ultimately up to them. If they never put it on sale who cares except poorfags too retarded to pirate?
it's fair enough. they have no intention to ever put it on sale, so they save you the time to wait for a sale
Everyone itt are hecking wholesome civilians that work for the love of the game and would give away their work for pennies after an initial successful year to people that can just get it for free elsewhere anyways. Kill all CEOs!
People can argue over whether the game "needs" to go on sale, but it stopped being relevant to me as it remains one of the very few non-Paradox games that I have actually pirated. It was easy to pirate and retained the ability to host and play with friends. In addition, pirating the game let me avoid extremely strange and petty shit like wondering why the devs go on here about how sales penalize people for not researching and buying within specific windows yet announce periodic price increases here which would do nothing but penalize people for not researching and buying within specific windows. It also let me dodge the fucking faggot bullet of a dev debating that a high game price (and rising price) is necessary for future development while charging the exact same cost of the game for those updates he is supposedly charging high prices to maintain in the first place.
The dev is a huge fucking faggot and their business model is one continuous double standard, but I won't speak out against him anywhere but here solely because he makes penis tuckers seethe like you wouldn't believe.
I paid 60 Euros for Baldur's Gate 3. My perceived value of the game was around that price. It was on some slight sale. I would not pay 80 Euros for Baldur's Gate 3. I am not willing to pay more than 250 Euros for Nintendo Switch 2 as that's my perceived value of the product.
this is literally the first game i've bought in over 10 years and even then i only did it after like 400 hours of pirated playtime
i do not care, well worth my dollarydoos
The game is free thobeit.
Imagine being poor AND a paypig at the same time. The lowest of the low.
Literally just work any job two hours.
If they raised the price to 60 and then discounted to 55 I would buy it instantly,
I'm glad they don't.
Buying games only when they're on sale is literal cuckoldry
Ideally you'd see a game you want, and just buy it. If you don't have money, or just don't care, then pirate instead.
Discounts are not pro-consumer, they exist to psychologically entrap people in the mindset that less is always more. That's how you end up buying 5 packs of shit you don't need at the store, because "lmao buy 2 get 3 free"
Notice as well that women love sales more than men do. They have coupon fetishes. They like daddy corporations telling them what they can spend money on guilt-free
no
okay. I shall not buy, then
*spends money on a different game*
I.just saw this exact post in a thread asking about a sale. You sound like a faggot.
Is there a factorio mod or in game way of determine the ample amount of supplies for results?
Like if am building 4 auto crafts that are all making gears, what's the best way to determine the exact amount of iron miners/furnaces to have a constant supply?
Factorio is good and worth its price
Tendieslop is bad and should be significantly cheaper
Since it depends on many factors, like tech level, modules if applicable and in Space Age quality, you are supposed to calculate it for yourself.
That said, if you're not autistic, just build shit until the input belt is full.
Unless you live in China then that's like what 16 hours?
no dev is obligated under any circumstances, ever, to put their game on sale for you. lmao you fucking retarded dipshit, you piece of trash
exact amount of iron miners/furnaces
Estimate how many you need, then double it, then double it again. Then go back later and build even more because you always need more.
Helmod
I've never seen this idea that promotions are anti-consumer practices before, in any area of commerce, in any culture, at any time. The only problem you might have is someone buying a game for $30, for example, and the next day it goes on sale for $5. That person will probably feel a bit wronged, but it's the kind of thing that if it really bothers you, will make you never buy anything at full price in the first place.
That comparison with promotion and psychological practices for making the price seem lower than it is, is pure rationalization, and is usually done by people who are trying to invent a noble motive for something that isn't really noble. And the fact that the original dev said he thinks promotions aren't good in the long run kind of gives away that his view is purely economic and not ethical, and that he thinks it's not worth selling his product cheaper so as not to exhaust potential consumers and reduce the money he can make, because apparently he wants to live off the same game all his life instead of using the resources to build new experiences.
They're acting like somekind of elder god is manipulating your ass to buy games on sale.
Yeah. The Jewish one.
There's a lot of different factors that can go into supply and demand, but you can look at the throughput on the info screen when you hover over a machine, and then calculate it from that.
no consumer is obligated under any circumstances, ever, to buy a game at a pricepoint too high for them. lmao you fucking retarded dipshit, you piece of trash
Isn't it drm free? If you can't afford it, just pirate it.
That's true. Nobody is obligated to buy it. You absolute fucking drooling retard.
It's clearly not economically advantageous or you'd see this kind of behavior everywhere. As for sales, they make more sense ethically for goods that lose value over time, or just need to be cleared because they take up physical space. But for a digital product that has arguably only gained value over time, putting it on sale is purely a trick to get people who otherwise wouldn't be interested in the game to purchase it.
That is the most retarded reason for a game price I've ever seen. Just you say you don't want to the lower the price because money and be done with it.
the only DRM is that you can't download mods from the official site if you don't have a valid purchase. The only reason you'd ever "have" to pay for the game is if you
1. want to give the devs money
2. you've played the base game so much you need mods to stay entertained
3. you're too retarded to pirate
Even if you're a giga-autist who only measures game quality in dollar per hour played, if factorio doesn't btfo other games in value despite the price it's probably just not your kind of game. You can even pirate it easily if you're an omega poorfag or that's just your style (of pretending to not be an omega poorfag). I'm not judging, I used to be omegapoor too.
I literally don't know where the fuck else I'd have gotten that many hours of autismal bliss with just 35 dollars. I'm not telling you that you should buy it, in fact if you gotta ask whether it's worth it, it's probably not.
Okay then
Enjoy not having my money, you braindead kike
Hey dev when's the next sale?
Wow you really owned the imaginary developer that is hurt and poor because you believe they want your 5 bucks
no dev is obligated under any circumstances, ever
well then I will just pirate the game since the faggot dev has to act up like a bitch
Inflation isn't real. Make things cheaper or I will simply pirate them.
satsifactory is way higher value and it's on sale
If you have a product that never goes stale and you have an infinite supply of it, then buying shit when its NOT on sale is basically stupid tax.
This way, its much more honest.
I WISH software was sold with the same type of mentality, im fucking tired of the whole "You dont own anything" shit murricans are trying to spread everywhere in the world.
Cant buy shit even at premium anymore, even if you wanted to. All you get is "license to use" and monthly subscriptions
If youre a thirdie just pirate shit if you cant afford it, who gives a shit
putting it on sale is purely a trick to get people who otherwise wouldn't be interested in the game to purchase it.
What's wrong with that though?
Wow you really owned the imaginary consumer that is hurt because you believe theyre upset theyre not playing your game
That's nice and all but I can easily pirate it at any point. So it's up to you, the developer, to convince me to give you any money at all.
THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD YOU BUFOON
it's worth the money
you aren't entitled to anything
fuck you
build a cool factory
It doesn't but most things go on sale after being old . Even Nintendo puts their mainline games on 20% sale (botw, Mario Odyssey, kart, smash bros, etc)
It's clearly not economically advantageous or you'd see this kind of behavior everywhere.
Well, it makes sense in the guy's head, he said that.
And perhaps it makes sense in rare cases where you have a high-quality niche game with nothing similar to compete against, and where you're in a scenario where you intend to live off that game all your life rather than trying to promote your work and brand to make more profit on future releases.
But for a digital product that has arguably only gained value over time, putting it on sale is purely a trick to get people who otherwise wouldn't be interested in the game to purchase it.
The value of things is how much people are willing to pay for it, and digital games are no exception to the idea that people tend to consider a new release to be more valuable than a release from 10 years ago. There are various reasons for this, many of them subjective, but in general, if the game doesn't receive an update that considerably reshapes the experience (such as the addition of an online multiplayer component), the tendency is for time to erode people's perception of its value.
What publishers do is either lower the price of the game permanently, or make it go on increasingly generous sales, which in practice is the same thing.
Your game is either good and you are financially stable without having a sale, or it isn't.
But releasing a shitty cashgrab dlc not as just a patch tells me a different story
You could pirate it if it went on sale, too.
It's really quite simple
The devs are pretending to care about consumers and using jewtongue to dance around the fact they just want to milk as much out of their consumerbase as possible. People are pointing out that this is retarded since there are people who will NEVER buy the game at full price to begin with, so you are literally leaving money on the table by not lowering it temporarily for a sale. Players who bought it at full price are not losing anything or having their "game devalued" by this. They dont care. They dont care at all. Just like a potential buyer who would have boughted the game at 50% off is not going to care if they don't do that sale. He's not going to care because he's not going to spend his money on it. Games are not a necessity. No one NEEDS to play factario. The price of the game may be determined by the devs. The value of the game is in the hands of the buyer.
The devs are jews not because theyre not doing sales, but because theyre pretending like theyre pro-consumer and heckin cool and awesome because of it. The truth is that they're pro-money, and theyre retarded because they are not making as much money as they can. That is the point of this thread
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luxury product.
Not even, the cost is below industry standard
I paid like 20 usd for the game
you would know, fagboy
Thirdwolder seethe threads over factorio's price are one of Anon Babble's few absolute constants. I find it strangely comforting every time I see one.
Poor people cope by hoarding
Yeah, I have spent hundreds of hours with the game, and even paying a hundred bucks wouldn't even make a dent into my budget, but the dev's kikery, as discussed in this thread, makes me not want to give him money. And if piracy actually did hurt sales, I would be glad that everytime I fired this thing up this retard were losing money because of his retarded decision.
But they do say they don't want to lower the price because they want more money long term. What's wrong with that?
Frankly, $35 is an extemely reasonable price as is.
What kikery? The refusal to arbitrarily put it on sale? They're being very honest and not swindling anybody or murdering any babies
They're being very honest
No they're not. If they were being honest they would say "it's about the money", but instead they are trying to come up with all kinds of corpo bullshit speak justifying their kikery, and that is what rubs me the wrong way.
If they were honest and say "it's about the money" you would shit on them all the same for being "greedy jews".
Oh, so you agree they're not being honest?
You HAVE to discount the price of your game because..... Uhhhhh.... Well...... Because.... Well...... Pretty please!!!!
it's actually Jewish for a merchant to charge exactly what he thinks something is worth rather than charging twice what it's worth for 85% of the year and some times lowering the price to less than that
No, but I do agree you're poor.
have no arguments
U POR!
Wow, good job. Keep coping.
They tried to make it some pro consumer moral issue when its blatantly not.
Maybe they don't want accidental people buying the game because it's on sale? Or because this is minimal price, since they do updates for free? They already have regional prices.
here's your sale, "bro"
also factory planner
but most things go on sale after being old
but it's the same video game, in fact it has even more content every passing day.
Anything nonessential is a luxury.
Charging a fixed price once for a game isn’t really milking bro.
4. you want to upload mods (my case)
This makes sense for an online game where you don't want retarded tourists flooding your servers but here it's just retarded
you've played the base game so much you need mods to stay entertained
you can download mods for free
I'm gonna eat a luxry twinkie later while I use my luxury hammer on my luxury nails to build my luxury chair so I stop sitting on my luxury floor
Sale pricing logic
estimate your ideal return for each unit sold
set default price to double or triple that
occasionally put on sale
I forgot this board is filled with third worlders. Go find food or something, poorfags. No one wants to engage with low IQ subhumans online
if they wanted to milk players, they'd shit out dlcs like rimworld dev do
instead they always improve the game for free, stay in touch with players and modders
actually the best developers in our timeline
now that's just stupid
they'd shit out dlcs like rimworld dev do
But they already did. They literally "hired" (aka told them to work for free) some retarded mod to make a medicore space dlc
That's my problem with the dev. When I was checking out the game to buy it I saw 2 price increases in the span of a couple of months. I just pirated instead since I knew the devs are retards about sales
Just say you're a jew dev and shut the fuck up. No need to come up with more mental gymnastics. It's not like anyone's buying it
Not putting the game on sale is fine. Increasing the price after they finished the game, that's what they deserve to be shot for.
"hired" (aka told them to work for free)
retard
it's mentioned rimworld dev actually rips off other modders work without even mentioning
medicore space dlc
this "mediocre" dlc has twice as much (if not more) assets than the original game, is optional and does not break mods support
He doesn't want the game. He wants to seethe about the game.
rate calculator is the easiest, just select the buildings and you get all the numbers. select the entire supply chain and you'll have a nice quick overview.
The only problem you might have is someone buying a game for $30, for example, and the next day it goes on sale for $5
even then, steam has that listed as a valid reason for requesting a refund
Factorio has bigger problems than a discount. Earendel that fucking faggot is ruining the expansion and it was prematurely launched. They've got a ton of fixes to make to the god damn rocket system which is SHIT and un-fun to use.
People who defend all the scrapped content like the aquillo enemy should fucking drown in liquid shit, too.
The expansion is not what it could have been. Period.
see
Looks like a medicore DLC to me
The developer is a lying faggot and that's bigger than him being a jew
Because it was rushed.
Gleba was confirmed to be a jumbled mess of dogshit during the lan-party and EVERYONE complained about it but these retards REFUSED to remove the agriculture science spoiling because Earendel is a fucking tranny freak.
to me
Your game is either good and you are financially stable without having a sale, or it isn't.
Even good games are subject to diminishing value over time, so it's impossible to remain financially stable without working on new things. Not just games, but all cultural products. It's totally unrealistic to think that people will continue to want to pay the same amount for your product forever.
The spike in interest caused by the Factorio DLC doesn't seem to have changed a trend of a very slight reduction in the number of reviews the game receives on Steam with each passing month. Factorio is an excellent game, but if the devs are really thinking long term (which for a company is 30, 40 years), they're going to have to start running promotions sooner or later, either to bring the price of the game into line with its real value, or to try to attract more fans for future projects.
Or they'll simply die like the writer of a single book, or the composer of a single song.
they removed a ton of shit from gleba before release
poors think that people work to make the poor happy LOL. it's always fun to read threads like this and to read the thoughs of poors LOL.
Perhaps the sale was the base price all along.
poors think that people work to make the poor happy
of course they do
"the poor" in question being the developers, of course
They've got a ton of fixes to make to the god damn rocket system which is SHIT and un-fun to use.
All they need to do is let us launch rockets based on circuit signals and let radars transmit to other surfaces.
t but these retards REFUSED to remove the agriculture science spoiling
Yes, lets remove the only genuinely new game mechanic that mods can't replicate.
Videogames, like all entertainment, keep the normies in check. Without them people would notice how bad things are and burn down the country and ruin everything. So yes, they are nessasary human rights.
but most things go on sale after being old
that implies they lose value, factorio does not lose value.
i bought factorio and refunded it after I couldn't figure it out. I guess I have the wrong type of autism to enjoy it
bro pirate a game if you want to but don't act like you're doing the universe some objective moral good. i bought the game like 10 years ago and still "dodged" all whatever gay faggot drama you're talking about.
its ok
i am an autist too and never had interest in cars, football, demon souls or anime
I could respect his opinion on not putting the game on sale until he increased the price. He's just a greedy cunt pretending to stand on principle.
you are greedy cunts if you had any salaries increase
Third worlders can’t comprehend this.
L+Ratio'ed
What's dishonest about that? The inherent value of the game hasn't changed, but currencies have devalued since.
we dont like sales because it isn't honest to our customers. everyone should be able to buy it at the same price, any time!
we're raising our prices sorry fellas, better buy now or else
It's not a mechanic it's a fucking chore.
Just overproduce! LOL!
It's not hard!
Nobody said it was hard It's fucking stupid is what it is
At Fulgora and Vulcanus have actual mechanics and so does Aquillo despite it the fact it feels like a shitty seablock knock off and was as unfinished as the rocket launching for space age.
Why are the devs "philosophy" so retarded and hypocritical?
ESL cries about a 35 dollar price tag
lmao
adjusting for inflation when wages haven't risen equally
jej
Third worlders can only conceptualize reality as a series of isolated absolutes. It’s really quite sad.
If he was honest he'd lower the price of his game now that inflation has gone down, but he hasn't. Curious
It was like $10 in early access
it never goes back down
That would’ve easily justified bumping the price to $50
Inflation has decreased in rate, it didn't go backwards
The only thing that changes is the rate of inflation. It never reverses.
Anon...
The inherent value of the game hasn't changed
The value of a product is the price consumers are paying for it, not the quality of the product or something.
“Sale” prices are always the actual value of a product. The rest of the time you’re being overcharged 100-1000%
“Economics” is all post-hoc bullshit centered around rejecting all measures of objective value.
The only faggots complaining about this are those too retarded to pirate a DRM free video game - which also means they're not even close to the target audience and too dumb to play the game.
it’s a little deeper than that. the browns upset that things aren’t being priced for them take that as an insult. it’s a clear sign they are viewed as worthless. this is pretty much their entire identity.
retard
its a old single player game the devs wont put on sale
Just pirate it.
If you believe that, then the value is exactly what the devs sell it for at any point in time, so then you also wouldn't complain about a price hike.
They're acting like somekind of elder god is manipulating your ass to buy games on sale.
Everywhere you go on the internet you see retards and their backlogs of thousands of games they buy on sales that they never play and never will.
It’s always “on sale.” It’s always the actual value of the game. They’re never overcharging so they never have to put it “on sale” to trick people into buying it. Early access was $10 because of how little content was available at first. Now the game has 10-20 times the content and they’re still only charging $35
test
rushed
why did they do for four year then?
The game isn't finished
It's not "improving for free"
It's early access
This is 100% accurate.
t. Balkan born in an ex-communist country
Normies can't grasp their heads around sales being a scam, yet they always complain about things being overpriced.
I heard US want to cancel math in schools, but I didn't know they already started.
yes. those are all luxuries due to not being essential
no sale
no regional pricing
No buy from me. I'll take my business to some shady key seller that hopefully stole the game so the devs don't see a single cent. Price things accordingly.
Buying keys from resellers is even more cucked lol. At this point either buy it from steam or pirate the game for free.
They made me pirate it.
Starting on an empty map with nothing at the beginning, that killed my drive, at least I didn't give them any money. I loved the tutorials though, kinda wish they were more of these (or idk, some kind of "puzzles")
Man with no creativity, needs hand holding.
At this point either buy it from steam or pirate the game for free.
I will do no such thing. I will buy it for around 40% cheaper at any given time from some russian key seller and have it on Steam where I can benefit from any and all patches and free content.
If I were them I would block the game in all spanish speaking countries to spite you specifically.
the switch port
I will never buy the game
okay then
maybe, but the beginning is awfully boring, walking around, everything way too coal reliant (I know I can somehow use 4 miners to get it, but it's boring)
just reroll the seed until iron and coal are next to each other/on the same screen
official tip btw
You were never going to buy it at $30, why are you pretending that an extra $5 is some kind of dealbreaker?
$35 for 1500 hours of gameplay
$0.02 per hour of gameplay
Do you even autism?
Exactly. If you're gonna go the scuffed route, might as well go full pirate and not funnel money into shady resellers that could screw devs and you both. At least pirating cuts out the middleman and you know what you're getting.
I didn't even bother reading that crap because I'm already familiar with this low IQ narc cope. Why the fuck can't vulnerable narcissists admit that they're greedy? all of us are greedy to some degree, there's nothing wrong about it. He's not doing it for anyone else than for his pockets.
as an eastern europoor and balkanoid I can confirm. When you grow up having to deal with corruption, jews and retards you're forced to become somewhat of a jew yourself. Plus the brain damage from leaded gas, asbestos, etc. The argument presented in OP is nothing more than manipulation. Basically "give me more money because it's good for you".
I wonder if the game dev regrets selling the game for $20?
it’s more like communism and corrupt shitholes in general cause every smart person to leave
sales are a jewish trick to force you buy shit you dont need with money you dont have.
Doesn't sound very smart of them when they instead could have fixed their shitholes to become better countries they could have been proud of.
more like
Those things aren't mutually exclusive. If you're born into a country, you must adapt to how things are done there, but if you encounter an opportunity to leave for a better place, you'll likely seize it.
No. The sales from indiegogo were a tiny fraction compared to steam. I'm too lazy to find the fff blog talking about it but they posted a pie chart.
Why do retards cry about this all the time. Is this game impossible to pirate or something?
There you have it, the game already had a sale, you just missed it. You snooze you lose.
-_- $60
°â—‹° $30 sale
There's no drm so the game is insanely easy to pirate. It even has a checkbox to allow you to play multiplayer with pirated copies.
People these days don't know how to pirate things.
why don't things just... instantly become better
it's very easy to pirate, just get the gog copy
None of the smart people actually leave, the smart people learn to take advantage and benefit from the shit themselves. Only idiots go to the UK or US just to become literal berry gatherers or warehouse workers. The luckiest get to watch their life fritter away in a call center cubicle. Smart ones work in cushy offices and live in their deceased parent's houses, work 3 out of 8 hours a day and spend their leisure time drinking cheap liquor and going on vacations once every 2 months.
it's LITERALLY female behaviour
I've never seen this idea that promotions are anti-consumer practices before
Think for more than 2 sec, if sales weren't beneficial for producers, no sale would ever exist in this reality ever.
Nobody ever does anything for good of consumer
Work to make them better. Participate in politics, raise public awareness, either create a political party or support those that represent your interests. Running away and throwing shit is easy.
They’re admitting the money of people who can only afford video games when they’re over 80% off isn’t worth anything to them. Such people also bring their own set of problems with their entitled gibbering.
I am to be paying customer equal to first worlders you are to be respecting me
No.
the origin of money makes it worth less
zamn, do you have a phd in economics?
I would have bought it at $5.
It’s browns upset that their money is worthless. That they aren’t viewed as worthwhile customers.
$35 for 2D slop is a scam lmao
trash money == trash people
This is why I pirated it.
This thread has browns bitching about lack of regional pricing, on top of crying about lack of sales.
just vote harder
just flip burgers harder
this will turn your country into Switzerland
that's not how value works you fucking nigger, you cannot "adjust for inflation" a product, its coporate speak, you are merely raising the price because salaries don't increase with inflation
What does that mean? You don't adjust a product for inflation, you adjust the price. If the dollar loses half its value in 10 years, all else being equal, why would you expect prices to remain the same?
Saying fuck you to sales is honestly pretty based, the concept of a "sale" is often dishonest because the seller knows that seeing item X% off is more likely to make people spend money. This is why companies raise prices before Black Friday and then give them a "discount", it's a form of FOMO essentially. Steam has literally confirmed that a third of all games bought on sale is literally never played
because products lose their value over time as there is less demand
people who wanted to buy factorio bought it years ago, you aren't enticing new sales with a price hike, you are discouraging it, this is basic economics you fucking niggertroon
Based autists standing strong against "but that's how everybody does it"-normalfags.
it's their job to track how much money I make at my job
The price of the game stayed the same, but the value of the money went down.
Their approach is that "now" is always the best time to buy Factorio. This does not go against it.
The goal explicitly isn't to entice new sales, the devs already said that. They consider it a game worth the equivalent of 30 dollars a couple years ago. Well 30 dollars a couple ago is 35 dollars now, the percentage of buying power that they're asking for is exactly the same.
to trick retards into buying out of FOMO, only to never even open the game afterwards
i am based and calm
I AM SILLY
for how long are you retards going to keep doing this?
Two things can be true at the same time.
b-but I want a sale so it's bad
Child.
Hyper retard. If we ever end up enslaved it's because of idiots like you.
just pirate the Factorio games? Not like the euro trash is going to send lawyers to stop you. Pirate any developer not willing to even give 5% discount after years of being released. We don't need developers, they need us and our money. I can't play tons of old games from decades past if the gaming industry goes belly up.
Just because I can pirate the game doesn't mean the devs aren't massive jews that need to be called out. They're not mutually exclusive.
game released permenantly on sale (and practically free from the website with little to no intervention required)
literally the most complete factory game that has ever existed and every signle factory game afterwards learned lessons from it
literally the most optomised game that has ever existed and will likely remain that way till the next video game crash and subsequent revolution
after years like this the devs increase the price slitely to reflect modern times
all of a sudden theres a thread a week about the factorio price
theres probably one autist at the centre of all this so its even more apt but let me just say the obvious:
if you like factory games and somehow didnt buy or obtain factorio for free until now, you are now subject to a retard tax. congratulations
all of a sudden theres a thread a week about the factorio price
Let's ignore the fact the subject literally shows up every single time Factorio is mentioned and let's delve into why people are complaining:
Video games are not luxury goods and are neither affected by scarcity.
Not going on sale is one thing, increasing the price like they're going to run out of bandwidth is just being greedy.
but it's always on sale :^)
$35 is too much for thousands of hours of entertainment? The unmodded base game is ~70 hours, but mods add almost infinite replayability.
They should have just charged twice as much for the game and gave retards like you a 50% off sale.
Jeez anon, if you like sucking dicks so much, you can suck mine if you want.
Only people who have never even attempted to solve a public issue say retarded shit like this
if this game released in 2001, the demo disc with 4 hours of content would be one of the most played demos ever.
Then why haven't they implemented that yet?
Fucking asshole retards in the dev team probably saying it would make the game 'too easy' like with quality modules in space platforms.
They're gunning to get rid of that, too.
Fucking dickhead Earendel furries should be shot.
Why the actual fuck did they add trigger techs for nauvis? Just let me research oil processing and uranium with packs don't make me go install shit prematurely what the fuck
You faggots are fucking retarded.
lets ignore the fact that i keep crying about it
im not being greedy they are
like i said, retard tax is real
buying games
Literal cuckoldry
You’re brown.
The joke is even if you explain to people that’s what all “sales” actually are, they just go “but I did have breakfast”
How much do you pay the devs to drink their load?
Fellas, is it gay to save money?
they gave me a 20 dollar video game for free because as a none retard i am not subject to the retard tax, hope that makes sense one day
I know far too many women who buy almost useless crap just because it's on sale, yes you are gay because you're not saving money you're wasting it, you fucking woman
Better not rent anything. Better not have any debt. Better have exactly zero in your bank account at the end of the month, living paycheck to paycheck, down to the penny.
Not much and i'm sure it was a bunch of loose ideas during that time. Space age's announcement came out suddenly without warning and rather close to its release, it was a never ever expansion scenario.
Wube wasn't secretly working on it. No way in hell. Isn't it evident that the devs observed space exploration become the most popular mod and thought "let's do something like this, hire this guy". The mod and space age are super fucking linked.
all these people advocating piracy
you are the reason why console exclusivity is a thing
if you cannot afford $30, you really shouldn't be playing vidya and should be working few extra hours instead to get above the poverty line
the only excuse is if you live in a 3rd world country
I make $120k a year as of right now, I save over $2k a month, even with something financially reliant on me, and I'm still not purchasing games I can pirate.
Cry about it.
How much did your government pay you to learn my language?
Isn't it evident that the devs observed space exploration become the most popular mod and thought "let's do something like this, hire this guy".
No because they showed off early space platforms years before the game was released.
consoles exclusively having shit games is PC's fault
in a way this post was so wrong that it ended up being true again
The truth is that they're pro-money, and theyre retarded because they are not making as much money as they can
Have you considered that they're against manipulative sales tactics? Exactly as they stated in OP's post?
I refuse to believe the Factorio devs are slavnimals
now that inflation has gone down
Inflation has only slowed. Prices are still rising overall.
You are a LARPing poorfag brown. Do you even have running water in the run down mud hut you live in?
Post hand, you LARPing subhuman rat (you won't).
Why? Now you have something in common, Vlad.
Why the fuck are factorio threads always full of faggots seething with rage about shit that doesn't matter? The game is fucking great, it's possibly my game of the decade
It's cheap and easy to pirate, I played hundreds of hours before I bought it, and I only bought it because I wanted easy mod support
The devs actually improve and support their game, and even hired a modder, this is how devs should be
virgin
MUH VALUE
You know shit's bad when they start talking about hours played per dollar lmfao
Parallel evolution then, what a coincidence. How fortuitous. Well met.
Don't buy the game if you don't like it.
awards are great
everyone says so
I shall exaggerate my opponent's position for clarity and fun
NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE HYPERBOLE, ONLY A 1:1 REPRODUCTION OF MY ARGUMENT IS ALLOWED OR I WILL LITERALLY GO INSANE
It's good for both sides, genius. The producer manages to sell a product that nobody was buying, the buyer manages to buy something that he wanted, but he thought the price was too high.
If you believe that, then the value is exactly what the devs sell it for at any point in time
No, because even if the dev is managing to sell a few copies of his game at whatever arbitrary price he has decided, you still don't know how many people want that product, have the money to buy that product, but have decided that the asking price is unreasonable and have stopped buying.
so then you also wouldn't complain about a price hike.
Most don't complain when they consider the price to be below fair value. Just imagine an extreme situation, imagine that Bethesda announces Doom Dark Ages port $0.75 tomorrow, in all physical and digital stores, but at launch decides to increase it to $1.25. Do you think the average consumer, those who can afford a hobby like video games, will complain about that price hike?
If you think the price is too high, they don’t want your money. It’s on gog for a reason, and it isn’t more sales.
nintendo does predatory fomo bullshit therefore it's okay
tendie retards think this is a good argument lol
People are so fucking dumb they'll bitch about the game never getting a sale when in reality the real issue is the fact that the expansion launched incomplete like fuck off pirate it nobody gives a shit faggots.