Why is this game so much more memorable than Fallout 3?
Why is this game so much more memorable than Fallout 3?
World building, characters, story, setting, quests, weapons, factions.
Better games are more memorable, usually.
Fallout 3 is so forgettable it just kind of blends together. All I remember is dirt hills and le wacky weird shit that's literally the same from each other
its a straight upgrade, everything you can do in f3, you can do better in fnv, and it has way more things to do too
characters, they are just really memorable in good and bad ways
they did will in making the mojave wasteland a character itself, with a history, and reasons for its importance and why it's being fought over
the capitol wasteland has none of that, it's just a place where not much has happened, and not much is happening, and there isn't really any importance of it over any other place other than it was once the capitol.
the most memorable things in 3 are stuff like discovering and alien ship, old ruins, a awesome weapon, a silly settlement.
NVG is more focused on it's characters and world, player expression, just writing in gen
I prefer NV but the random encounters were missed. I prefer the skill checks too but that's more preference
Because you're a contrarian tranny
This. It's a damn shame random encounters aren't in New Vegas. I actually really liked that in 3. They could have even expanded on them more or have them be more reactive.
what the fuck are even the point of Fallout threads anymore? It's just shit flinging between fallout 3 and New Vegas. Pretty sure I seen people post around here that there's like a whole discord dedicated to making Fallout threads just to argue and bait in it the whole time. Anon Babble and the internet are completely dead.
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because its a great game
Fallout 3 has like 15 quests in total, game is just empty
I don't think they're as bad as people say but they're certainly way worse than NV ones
Also Fallout 3 DLCs are just awful
Why are you lying faggot. The game has roughly the same number of locations. The map size is roughly the same, 3s may be slightly larger due to the underground sections and if we disregard all the areas blocked off by invisible walls for NV. Finally finishing the game takes roughly the same amount of time.
The characters in 3 are mostly very boring. The only really interesting one I can think of is Uncle Leo, and he's easy as fuck to miss entirely assuming the game even spawns him in. Honorable mention to the synth I guess.
The story in general has kind of whack stakes, or characters that don't really act like they should in context; even when bullets are flying in the main quest it all seems weirdly casual. I felt this pretty keenly in the run up to GNR where one of the cocky knights gets pasted. The Lyons' Pride dudes want to be real serious about it but said knight was being a dipshit for the whole fight so hearing them give her a posthumous promotion to Paladin has no impact. For more generic stuff, people in the Wasteland seem to be kinda... fine with how things are. Very casual. Business as usual. It doesn't feel like any of them are really struggling even though the entire region is in the midst of a water crisis, and that gets undercut further by stuff that just exists to be silly like the Machinist and AntAgonizer.
Locations are based entirely around their gimmick and there's no real thought given to how the whole area works. If you deleted Arefu from the map you'd remove like two quests and no one who wasn't rushing the Shishkebab recipe would notice. Canterbury's like this too. It kind of kills the vibe and makes it difficult to get invested.
No player agency, and the powers that be are all really boring. The interesting shit for the Brotherhood all happened off screen. The Enclave are just bad dudes that roll in at the 11th hour. Raiders have some personality but you can't interact with them. Gotta be a vault kid looking for Liam Neeson.
Sucks 'cause I like the DC map more than the other 3D Fallouts but the setting just doesn't carry itself.
Why are you lying
Contrarians love Fallout 3 newfag
no, 3 is the more well regarded game
3 is the more well regarded game
On reddit
You crybabies are even worse. You throw a fit in every thread about "oh no I saw this thread twice in my whole life better go into thread seethe over it like a sexually assault victim".
It's just shit flinging between fallout 3 and New Vegas.
and none of these zoomers have even played 1 and 2. Maybe some NVfags have but you know the 3/4 Bethesda kiddies wouldn't bother with them since Toddslop defines the series for them.
Rivet city is especially bad.
Biggest city in the entire game
Barely anything to do except tiny little unmarked shit
That should be illegal in Fallout games. It's the same shit with Megaton
but megaton has survival guide quest
So what? 2 actual quests?
1 and 2 are dogshit games with the worst gameplay ever. 3 and 4 easily mog.
crazy how lucky obsidian got with FONV. they literally haven't made a single good game since it.
A total fluke that they still desperately grasping to to this day "from the creators of Fallout: Newvegas" has been their moto for nearly 30 years cause they haven't made anything worthwhile since.
The only thing I respect about fallout 3 is that the map is so unapologetically hateful. The underground tunnels in DC make it feel like an actually nuked city and rivet town feels like a real ship-town and not a skyrim-esque theme park dungeon.
The rest is dogshit I'd end up writing an essay about shitty details
they literally haven't made a single good game since i
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Pillars of Eternity
Tyranny
Pentiment
Grounded is really good for survival game
Yet a completionist playthrough on Fallout 3 takes about 115-130 hours and for Fallout New Vegas is 140-160 hours.
Quantity isn't everything. Here's an example Cold, Cold Heart. Curtis gives you some cage warnings. Quest finished.
considering that outer worlds was just a terrible attempt at space fallout, I'd say they have no versatility.
It's an actual RPG for one thing. Bethesda doesn't have the intelligence to say, let you play as a pacifist who solves problems with words, not violence. Easily my best NV playthrough of all time and I've done just about every kind of potential playthrough at this point.
Honestly you could ask the same about any thread on Anon Babble in 2025 anon.
What is the point of Tendie threads?
What is the point of waifufagging threads?
What is the point of [New Game Here] threads?
What is the point of Smash Bros threads?
What is the point of Twitter screencap threads?
Anons were making the same threads before the site went down last month and they'll keep making the same threads this time next year and as somebody who's been on Anon Babble since middle school back in the 2000s, I wouldn't have it any other way desu. The sheer amount of unbridled autism for better and for worse is what makes Anon Babble unique even after 20+ years
‘Completionist’ Fallout 3 playthrough includes shit like collecting ‘rare’ junk items and other autistic shit that doesn't belong in RPG
Collecting iron ingots in Pitt just isn't fun
they literally haven't made a single good game since it.
PoE1 and Tyranny were pretty good. Outer Worlds was overhyped trash, and Avowed is modern corpo slop complete with troons crying about "chuds" this and "the wrong people" that all the way to bankruptcy.
‘Completionist’ Fallout New Vegas playthrough includes shit like collecting 'rare' creature eggs and other autistic shit that doesn't belong in RPG
Collecting various eggs just isn't fun
Your comparison just doesn't work
Bleed Me Dry only requires you to get four items from four different locations. It's still somewhat nasty quest because of the cazadors
Mill Worker requires you to find 100 fucking ingots in one horrible location and they're intentionally hidden
It's 50, although it's still a bit of a pain in the ass, especially if you didn't level Lockpick to 50 since that'll lock you at 49 ingots or something.
Because trannies keep posting about it.
It's 50
It's 100
Irrelevant. Takes roughly the same time to finish.
He's right it's 100 ingots if you want 100% completion.
found the discordfag
Wait are you talking about F3 DLC the pitt or new vegas?
Takes roughly the same time to finish
Absolutely fucking not
Bleed Me Dry is pretty short and most of the time you'll just be walking through these horrible sewers
I'm talking about Pitt
Star caps in NV are extremely easy to find
I like both of them, I think for side content not related to the overarching story 3 did better. most is just people trying to get by, while in new vegas it feels everything is related to the huge power struggle.. it makes sense but there aren't really random encounters of any meaning.. are there even random encounters in new vegas? I always run into the same 4 or so "here are 8 enemies from X faction". 3 just has an awful main story that doesn't make sense in the time it's set in and for some reason has 1 singular choice being "poison people" (it doesn't) or "give safe drinking water" (it doesn't)
Sup schizo, still crying about NV being better?
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Characters
Pretty much this, I can't name a single memorable character in Fallout 3. (I like Fallout 3 but I like Fallout New Vegas more)
Huh. It is 100. Idk why I cut it in half in my head. I even got the PA in my last playthrough a couple months ago
Maybe not because of the game itself, but for me it’s because I started to do hormones and crossdress around the time I was playing it.
It can take you anywhere between 30 minutes to more than two hours. Odds are you will take 15 minutes per egg type. Unless you already have a bunch of locations unlocked and you use fast travel and are high level.
Imagine being so mad that a game is better than the one you like that you have to larp as a troon just to push a narrative against it.
New Vegas fans really do be like this tho
they scoo-be do-be doo be like that
Start of FO3
Go through your character's life from birth, childhood, and teenage years before dealing escaping vault into wasteland.
Or...
Start of FO:NV
Get shot in the head and buried. Somehow don't die to an obviously lethal wound.
Gee anon. I don't know. What game has the better start? The one with the most unique and interesting start ever or the one that makes me say this is bullshit as soon as the game starts? Truly it's a mystery.
Anon, troons have infested all of nerd culture by this point, this isn't the anti-New Vegas own you think it is.
All the locations you need are not far from the places you visited
And even the time you mentioned is basically nothing compared to collecting 100 ingots
Is OP even in this thread?
Who makes the thread and then just.. never replies?
Is this content farming
Are we training an AI
The Mill worker quest takes about 30 to 60 minutes give or take.
obviously lethal wound
9mm
Look it’s all he has, he’s been doing this shit since at least 2021. He just sees or makes NV threads and spams this shit for hours.
You spend half an hour just trying to find those last two ingots
You need the minimum 20 minutes to collect all 100 of them if you know where they are and basically speedrun the quest
So we agree that it takes the average player roughly 60 minutes to finish both quests.
Thank you
You should demonstrate to all of us how it's not lethal by shooting yourself in the head.
I've been throughout the thread constantly. What a bizarre post
because f3 (and any other turd howard's game) is a fanfic at best
Fallout New Vegas and 3 are just two completely different games. Fallout has nver been a real dungeon heavy series until Bethesda. It was mostly town and settlement exploration and not dicking around in abandoned caves
People have been shot with 9mm in the head and survived.
Not here. Maybe you have some anons who post the gigachad shope but that's just them coping knowing their game is shit
you start with .22 to build up a tolerance idiot
You've never held a gun before in your life.
statistically, on the whole, gunshots are like 7% lethal or something.
looks like a fallout new vegas item icon
Kino
people have survived getting shot in the head with 9mm
9mm is more fatal than nonfatal
I can hear the chirp through your post.
Fallout 3 is literally the best in the series. New Vegas is a redditors game.
It's like saying that every man is a rapist.
Are you retarded or just underage?
some of the very deep DC/mall locations are great in isolation.
Are you guys excited for Bethesda to remaster Fallout 3 next and watch everyone forget NV even existed as FO3 remastered is hailed as the greatest fallout game ever?
Yes, because people never survive after being shot
Police and other US agencies have literally switched from 9mm to something bigger because 9mm just isn't enough for rabid niggers
are the police execution style glockings nigs point blank like benny without killing?
sure, but contrarian doesn't mean "contrary to the popular opinion on Anon Babble"
That literally happened
Except for the fact that the person was white
Despite the stereotypes US police don't discriminate on race
The world is actually interesting to explore. The quests were more interesting. That was my first impressions playing them back to back.
All they're doing is proving how absolutely cultish they are for New Vegas. Game has an absolutely terrible opening and they still defend it rabidly. They're pathetic.
it looked like early 90s 3dcg and matthew perry was profoundly miscast but its not even bad.
YES! And they're all surviving just fine with no long term damage of any kind. Naturally this is after having been buried in the ground for quite some time too. Getting shot in the head is completely harmless.
says something is nonsensical
show that it’s not
cries how proving him wrong makes him part of a cult
Why can’t you retards lose with dignity?
Nigger what the hell are you talking about? I show you the stat of how 9mm kills more people than every other round and you think pointing to a freak case of someone surviving means it's harmless.
The opening of FNV is pure trash and it's embarrassing how rabidly you niggers defend it.
show you the stat of how 9mm kills more people than every other round
Which was retarded because this isn’t about how many people get killed but rather that it is possible to survive.
you think pointing to a freak case of someone surviving means it's harmless
No one said it was harmless retard, just that it was possible to survive.
The opening of FNV is pure trash
It’s not, you’re just looking for anything to latch onto and like usual you failed and are now going apeshit.
Somehow, the main character survives an execution and burial
has to add in burial because he knows he can’t arguing getting shot in the head on its own.
Yeah, people have survived that before. And the game explains how as well. They didn’t even bury him properly, it was a shallow grave for fuck sake. Did you play the game
Meanwhile, FO3's opening...
You're born, then play as a baby, a child, and finally fully grown. You get personal connections and motivations. You know your character. The most soulful start imaginable.
my wife has beautiful fangs
So you mean it takes away the choice of having you decide what your life was like and how you grew up? I know you’ve reached the random rant part of your mental breakdown where you suck off your argument but you can’t even defend one point, you’re not going to be able to defend this. Just go trash your room now and save everyone the hours of bullshit.
He also survives having his entire brain removed btw, even converses with it. No use getting hung up on realism in such an unrealistic setting. But you are right about one thing, Fallout 3 is better than NV.
has to add in burial
You mean the game adds it in. I didn't make the game anon. It's okay though, I don't expect basic levels of comprehension from people who think the opening to FNV is good.
They didn’t even bury him properly, it was a shallow grave for fuck sake.
The burying doesn't even matter you stupid retard. It's just the proverbial icing on the shit cake. The burial is just letting us know that he laid there untreated in the ground, unable to breath even, and still... somehow, Palpatine returned.
Did you play the game
Yeah. Of course I did. FO3 was great and I was looking forward to FNV. I played the buggy fucking mess on release. That shit was unplayable until it got patched heavily.
And yet, Anon Babble refuses to tell me what mods should I install to get the best NV experience possible.
viva new vegas wabbajack
Fallout 4's is better because it does away with any pretense of roleplaying by just making you Nate. F3 makes you James' child which already does a good job of eliminating a good 90% of character building, but it's not as good as just making you a guy with a predetermined voice, personality and backstory. I hope they just get rid of character creation entirely in the next game, that shit is for gay nerd roleplayers.
So you mean it takes away the choice of having you decide what your life was like and how you grew up?
The courier is literally a blank slate whose past is completely irrelevant and effectively doesn't exist before the start of the game.
I know you’ve reached the random rant part of your mental breakdown
Projection.
You mean the game adds it in.
You added it into your argument because you knew you couldn’t defend someone surviving getting shot on its own.
though, I don't expect basic levels of comprehension from people who think the opening to FNV is good
So you’re just going to act smug to cope with getting btfo as if that will make it so someone can’t survive getting shot in the head?
The burying doesn't even matter you stupid retard
If it doesn’t matter why did you bring it up?
It's just the proverbial icing on the shit cake
More like you tried saying something were immediately proven wrong, and now you have to say it makes it worse when it doesn’t.
The burial is just letting us know that he laid there untreated in the ground
So you didn’t play the game, because almost immediately after Victor gets him out and takes him to Doc Mitchell.
Yeah. Of course I did
Yet you thought he just laid there in the ground and no one helped him? You’re a terrible liar and you outed yourself immediately.
I need someone else to confirm your post before I invest my time in Viva New Vegas. Really like that it has its own installer, makes it simple.
The courier is literally a blank slate whose past is completely irrelevant and effectively doesn't exist before the start of the game
So an RPG protagonist then? You know someone that you make and then decide their background and life as well as how they fit in the world?
Projection
Resorting to “no u” right off the bat, every schizo does this.