No seriously why is no one playing this? it's THE DOOM

no seriously why is no one playing this? it's THE DOOM
i thought everyone and their mother is gonna play it on release
eternal got 100k peak 5 years ago, it's 2025 so any dogshit fotm gets several hundred thousand peak every month
and don't say game pass, e33 is there as well
and don't say "not weekend" cause it won't be much different

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It's too demanding for turdie pcs

i have rtx3060 and 5700x3d
game runs at 60+ fps on ultra nightmare with dlss on quality in 1080p

BLOODY BITCH BASTARDS WHY IS NO ONE DOING THE NEEDFUL

shills need summary execution

eternal got 100k peak because it is a better game

PCchods too poor

It's not long or hard enough to actually spend real money on. People are beating it on gamepass within a few days and moving to the next game also parry slop

I didn't like Eternal, so I think it's safe to say I wouldn't enjoy this either.

This game is like it was made for people that hated eternal

It's not doom and it looks and plays like shit.

too expensive and demanding
no way in hell im paying that price tag for, what, 15 hours of gameplay 20 tops?

y-your poor

no, im not, cause im not stupid enough to buy into ripoffs like this
unlike you, who needs to prove it

dlss

1080p

Sad days for pc gaming

No it isn't, its just veering off even further into the direction Eternal went with the gameplay and story nonsense.

Playing zoom eternal 2 over Waifu Obscur: Sexposition 33

Ain't paying 80$ or 110$ when game is in the gamepass

Eternal was well optimised
this one is not
eternal sucked, lets face it
i hoped for it but i cant run it, it doesnt even look good

DLSS 1080p

grim

they're avoiding numbers for other platforms

yes that includes gamepass

Sad!

Too expensive for what it offers.

shillpass killing another game

SAD!

No option to not have Raytracing off

Runs like shit on most of the cards it claims can play it

changed to OPEN WORLD GAMEPLAY

Previous versions had code and visuals so optimized that it ran perfect on low end low teir graphics cards and even ran on a Nintendo switch while still looking great.

I have a bit of a personal grudge from DOOM ETERNAL being sold to me on the BETHESDA store and then BETHESDA revoking support and killing access to my game I paid full price for, so IF I decide to eventually play this I am not going to be paying close to full retail

I hate raytracing so much

in their desperation to appeal to epic reddit gamers spewing memes and postironic shitposts they forgot to make it fun

and don't say game pass, e33 is there as well

It's more expensive than E33 and that is even more reason for people to play it on gamepass, you get and pass this month and play E33 and doom

bad optimization

mandatory raytracing

denuvo

managed to piss off both those who liked Eternal, those who didn't, and those who didn't care

absurd asking price, losing even more sales to goyimpass and random FOTM releases

"advanced access", killing hype and giving normalfags time to reconsider

Usual tale of AAA faggots blinded by greed.

Putler has fused with Satan, thus creating SUTLER

Only Doomslaya and the Doomvengers can stop this threat to democracy

*shot during the battle*

*SphereHunter jumps on a demon and breaks his neck using her legs*

SphereHunter: Captain Zelensky, there are too many, we can’t hold them back!

Dave Rivera: My cyber forces are fading. Grummz must be behind this!

*Doomslaya and Isabelle rip through enemies using chainsaws*

RIP AND TEAR!!

*Sutler approaches the battlefield*

*Steve tries to attack him with his chickenjockey ability but is repelled*

Keanu: This is the end of democracy…

*A bolt of energy strikes from space*

Rick Sanchez: Ursula?!

Kojima: Hi, Ursula-san,I'm Hideo

Ursula Von der Leyen: Hi, Hideo. Do you have something for me?

*Ursula takes the Infinity Funko Pop*

*Sutler charges furiously at Ursula and they clash with equal power*

*Sutler uses one of his Infinity Funko Pops to attack Ursula and steal the final one*

*Doomslaya’s dragon tries to strike back at Sutler but is slain by him*

Steve: No!

BetterMan: murderer! You killed Dragorino!

Doomslaya: My friend…*furiously approaches Sutler* You killed my friend! Now how will I share his pics on r/chonkers?!!

*Doomslaya and Sutler fight brutally*

Sutler: This is your end, Slayah!!!

*Isabelle steps between Sutler and Doomslaya*

Isabelle: Slayah…forgive me.

*Isabelle is mortally wounded*

Doomslaya: NOO!

*Sutler takes the last Infinity Funko Pop*

*Steve jumps on Sutler trying to snatch the last Infinity Funko Pop but is easily defeated*

Sutler: I… AM INEVITABLE

*Sutler snaps his fingers but nothing happens*

*Steve looks at Sutler with a smile despite being badly wounded*

Steve: I… AM KYIIIIIIV

*Steve snaps his fingers, eliminating all the demons and thus saving democracy at the cost of his life*

not a single memorable song in the entire ost

wtf

Not interested in nu-doom. Hated Eternal and don't like the direction they were going with Doom Medieval. Tim Willits can suck my ass.

Tim Willits left in 2019 or some shit.
He is actually in charge of Saber Interactive.
Maybe that is why Space Marine 2 actually popped off.

have you seen how low doom 2016 and eternal go during sales? wait a few months and it will be half the price
plus most of these games are on game pass so people just play them through that. nobody cares about revisiting the average AAA game.

I really enjoyed the last two but the price is too high for a 10 hour game

I'm not paying full price for a DOOM game, half off maybe

$80 / $90

RTX 4080 to play it smoothly

Denuvo

Gee i wonder why

Barely feels like a Doom game. Might as well used the Quake name. ID needs to move on.

why the fuck is it even 80 bucks? are they insane? do they not want to sell the game?

Lol, what other numbers?
Steam is the only platform that has publicly available concurrent player numbers.
Publicly-traded companies would never offer this on their platforms, that would be bad for shareholders.

nigga, im not buying a single fucking gaming console anymore. most i can do is put it on as a wallpaper, wait 3 months and watch it die out. On the other hand, this show about magical girls is pretty good. I´ll give you my wallpaper right away. Burn in hell, fake ass.

Hexen is not a very marketable name and Raven is stuck in the Call of Duty mines until the milk runs dry.
So we are left with a game that plays like a lot of things at the same time while not being particularly good at anything.

you will own nothing an be happy.jewface

they want you to rent it on goypass

I've only ever played the first level of the first doom and didn't like the game. Anyways, why the fuck are jeets and low iq retards obsessed with steam chart numbers as if it's the only platform or as if it means anything. I know have zero personality is hard but try not making this shit your personality. Fucking pathetic

It's possible the extreme difficulty of Eternal turned it into a niche franchise like Returnal. Will have to wait for GamePass numbers to know for sure.

muh mandatory gaytracing

They dug their own grave.

I don't care about doom games and it's also like $80 or some shit. Who needs that.

if the game isnt popular then why bother playing it?

Looks boring as shit nigga
Not buying

zoomer trend to mimic oldfag boomer shooter cancer

literally same reskinned goyslop like 4 abd 8 years ago

same old boring unoriginal uncreative unfun weapons with literally same behaviour and mechanics as previous nudooms, just reskinned. Not even shoulder flamethrower like before.

except you're forced to engage in obnoxious disgusting meleefaggotry with no real option

same uncreative bulky enemies that just exist as target practice and easy to dodge

arena-like maps that are also linear, no real reason to explore

the only selling point is overrated title

can get more content and more fun from free mods for old dooms

I will NOT buy your goyslop, mr. (((Bethesda))) PR Agent.

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Finally this embarassing chapter of Doom can be put to rest

don't understand doom

turn doom into a capeshit game

why is no one playing my garbage

Whoever suggested the shield and the fucking GOT northern cape should be raped and lynched

30,000 players

HUR DUR WHY ISNT ANYONE PLAYING DIS GAAME?

ultra nightmare

runs the game at 720p internal resolution

Why not just bump down some graphics settings and actually run it at native 1080p? Surely that would be a bigger visual fidelity upgrade than increasing shadowmap resolution from 8k to 32k.

These are catastrophically bad numbers. Close to the point where they should seriously consider cancelling the DLC development or at least heavily scaling down its scope.

Because TAA looks bad?

So use DLAA instead you dumb nigger? You don't need to drop your internal resolution to 720p to get ML-assisted anti-aliasing.

greedy bastards bros, raytracing shills wants all the costs on the consumer
Fuck them

Graphic settings don't do anything in this game

They are doing worst than Doom 2016. Forget Eternal. They really should be doing better than this since they should have more fans than 9 years ago.

that is bad number anon

30% more fps seems like a better deal to me.

it's THE DOOM

SO HECKIN TRUERINO!!

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just veering off even further into the direction Eternal went with the gameplay

That is objectively not true and don't understand anything about games if this is your opinion lmao

dlss on quality in 1080p

so you are playing at 720p on a fucking 1080p monitor? LMAO

Reminder that the Indy game peaked at 12k on Steam and it wasn't considered an outright failure by M$. Also on Goypass day 1.
You just want to have your daily flail around like a retard session by declaring this a flop.

it really isnt plus theres the console players youre delusional

We are seeing the last phase before the collapse of this shitty industry.
The devs are trying to sell even more expensive games to consumers who they hope will buy stupidly expensive hardware to access the garbage they're shitting out. They're leaving the optimization of games to Nvidia's disgusting algorithms, which make all games look like badly compressed Youtube videos (I have an RTX3090 and modern games are simply ugly in my experience). It's total chaos from an industry that's on its last legs.

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it really isnt

it do be

Because none of their promotional material has made the game look particularly exciting
it's been a lot of gimmicks and slow shooting galleries
and given that Eternal was controversial in its own right, people are naturally wary of jumping in

M$ is just US glowie company at this point and money isnt real for corporation of that size connected to government which is printing reserve currency for entire world.

dude just waste $8k on a gaming PC that will be worthless in a few years lmao

Fuck off I can't play any of this badly optimized garbage.

I hate number autism so fucking much

Sales figure faggots

Metacritic faggots

Concurrent player faggots

Can you retards even image growing up in the 90s and just playing fucking games?!

Doesn't price make a difference? Isn't this like 70 dollars and the previous games were 60 or less?

Baguette JRPG was also a day 1 jewpass and it still had a massively higher peak
The game simply reeks of dogshit

I was too busy playing E33 to realise it had even come out.
I'm not paying £70 for a video game either.

and what do you want me to do? western aaa slop with mandatory ray tracing, now that dlss is a mainstream meme devs don't want to optimize for shit anymore, plus nvidia pays them to do that to sell nu dogshit cards
korean khazan runs at 100fps on ultra in native, bitch

70 dollars now is like 60 dollars then, inflation is a bitch

80 eurobucks

it's really simple

denuvo

I won't even bother shilling it then. I'll just keep playing AI Limit

They burned the mick gordon bridge and farmed out the soundtrack to low-rent contractors

a fucking JeRPG from a new studio of ex-ubifaggots is outselling FUCKING DOOM

grim doesn't even begin to describe this

doom fan here, bought 2016 and eternal day one. I'm simply not paying 80 for a fucking video game, ever.

I ain't paying more than $40 for a video game. Only mentally ill tendies do that

It's free on gamepass so you get it from the MS store not Steam.

Eternal runs on my 9800x3D and 3080 with well over 100 fps. I get like 80 with DLSS performance all settings on low here cause of forced RT

Disappointed to hear the soundtrack sucks. I thought Hulshult might have been able to pull off a few bangers, guess not.

The MS store is dogshit and I won't be using it because all of my experiences with MS's "apps" have been fucking awful.

free

on a paid service

Also, E33 was also on Gamepass, compare the numbers.

Why is no one playing this

30,619 people playing right now. I don't know anon that sounds like a lot of people

Eternal leaked a DRM-free version on release

still sold great

this one has Denuvo

flops

What's the lesson here?

doom eternal

requires 3GB of vram

doom: the dark ages

requires 12GB of vram

what's the excuse, and it's not higher res textures, the game is 20GB larger than eternal

The price of the game and the requirement.

STAND
AND
FIGHT

RETURN
TO
FORM

It's ironic because the industry is in a dark age. No ingenuity just slop flops.

Its on goypass, no reason to rent it on steam for 5x the price

This. I'll get it once it's $30.

graphically speaking it feels cheaper than the previous game, even their funkos look cheap. also gotta hate the captain america bullshit.

It's a basedllennial game and their age is over

no seriously why is no one playing this?

Too expensive.

worse enemy variety than eternal

whiplash doesn’t even have a toy despite being in the game

no pain elemental, archvile, prowler, or gargoyles

I don't know if it's because of adblockers but did anyone else feel like the marketing was very minimal for this game? I felt this game just kinda came out with no fanfare

There is a reason why the first games died, same with duke nukem and everything in that genre.

Its easily to get fatigued of the entire genre and the first news rode nostalgia but that only goes so long. Can you say their is any real major innovation from the original games?

My can't run it

6 hour shooter campaigns can't compete with 40+ hour action games with great innovative gameplay, great OST, great worldbuilding and a story that gets the player invested.
shooters can really only now survive as F2P and by scamming 11 year olds with skins

But you're not getting 30% more FPS because you're cranking your graphics settings all the way to Ultra Nightmare. Instead of slightly reducing the graphics settings you ruined overall image quality by dropping the rendering resolution down to 720p.

tda levels

openworld

You fucking troglodyte
These are literally foundry 2.0 from 2016 levels
Slit your throat, lying retard

No, just like Clair Obscura it had multiple showcases dedicated to it, it just doesn't look like a Doom game, so people who wanted a Doom game are less interested.

I think it's a good thing that this overreaching piece of shit is flopping

NOOOOOO MY BOTTOM LINE

suffer

speaks gibberish

I accept your concession

I literally just learned this game existed from this thread. And I watch a ton of gaming content on Youtube, no idea why the algorithm decided not to show me a single video about the new Doom game that's been out for 3 days now.

Based Hugo filters millions again

GOTY

It got 1/7th the peak player count of fucking shadow dropped Oblivion (20 year old game) which also released on Gamepass. Absolutely brutal flop.

Just buy a real GPU, stop being such a poorfag. You can get a 5070ti for only $900 on newegg and it'll run everything without a problem.

because it's shit

reddit fucking aesthetic

worse enemy variety than eternal

worse music

worse combat

no glory kills, one of the things that made eternal so great

shitty dragon and mech missions just because reddit thought it would be cool

it’s a prequel, so no one gives a shit because everyone knows how the story will play out

Literally no one asked for this game. They should’ve just moved on to Quake.

The audio and hdr is fucked. The movement is absolute shit. The game also feels cheap in a weird way, like a budget game. How many Indians worked on it? 2016 and eternal are masterpieces so this feels like a big step down in quality.

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The game is fun but the soundtrack is so disappointing. So far I can't remember a single track except the one used in the reveal trailer (which is also in the first mission)
Meanwhile I memorized Meathook right after it started playing in Exultia

i mean if there was a shooter as engaging as MGR maybe making them 6 hours would work

Nigga you have a top of the line $500 CPU, the game should be running absolutely amazing. It doesn't even look better than 2016 or eternal

mgr

engaging

LMAO

This game is literally doing AC: Shadows numbers on Steam. Keep in mind that DOOM is a PC series while AC is a console centric series. Absolutely brutal. I was not expecting a flop this legendary.

The game also feels cheap in a weird way

Kinda felt the same way and I can’t explain it either

What is this supposed to prove? There's an $870 5070ti right there in your screenshot. You don't need to go for the highest binned over-priced SKU out there.

can’t wait to see a webm of the end game credits thanking Sanjeep

I'll buy in from summer sale next year. Fuck outta here with your 90€ games.

It looks like dogshit and only retards buy games at launch price.

Le poor

Imagine being an adult and being "excited" for a videogame lmao.

play through the end of the dragon flying level so like start of stage 6

lose motivation to continue

Damn this kinda sucks when something you look forward to is just kinda lame. Gamepass saved me here

You’re posting about video games on Anon Babble.

Big tech supported this. Fucking complete clowns.

but recent RPGs sold well

Yes, because you can get like 10x the hours out of them. That's what happens when people start thinking hard about the value of what they're buying.

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I'm at Chapter 13 and it's safe to say I wouldn't pay full price for this game and they want what, $70? Fuck that
It's an okay game it's not a $70 game
Glad I paid to rent it on Gamepass alongside Oblivion

it's doom in name alone. it's ugly, dark, poorly optimized, with boring sections, and continues to be bogged down by the non-sensical "lore" they added and many cutscenes.

I ended up buying witchfire instead it fills the void of Doom for me. It's bretty good.

Doom 3 was a masterpiece though. Don't bother replying if you disagree, you are objectively wrong.

boasting about game's rent

renting toddslop of all games

Giga trans vibes from this post

personally havent played it because i really dont care about it
it looks like a fun game but it also looks like a game i dont care aboutsxdst

Doom 3 blows this shit out of the water

2 weapon slop straight from 7th gen

Shill this pile of crap elsewhere

I can and did
and because I care about the state of the industry for our hobby, I am interested in what kind of games succeed and what kind of games fail
as that drives the trajectory of the industry and gives me insight to if I should expect things to get better or worse

Bigger maps and more enemies.

It's 3 weapons and two abilities though. It's fun to me better than eternal.

Doom 3 is also ugly, dark, poorly optimised(for the hardware that was available at its launch date), and has a ton of non-sensical lore dumps through audiologs and terminals.
And yet it's still a great game because it understood what it was trying to be.

Waiting for that to come out of EA first but I'm glad all I ever see is praise for it. Can't wait. Hope I like it.

its 80 fucking bucks, just buy one month of gamepass and buy discounted if you want to replay it

3 weapons

fun

Whatever, guess you just like to devour shit.

Vindicated. I knew it was weird when they removed glory kills for just the lazier melee kill. Should've just made eternal 2. But then again TAG2 showed they wanted to back track from what eternal was like

game is shit as fps with 2 enemy max per encounter

game is shit as a horror

great game

D3troons everyone

Nice try ESL fag

It won't boot on my 1080ti.

the shield is gay, the slow color-coded projectiles are gay, the story is gay... it just blows

Doom 3 is an IQ test and you just failed it. I'm sorry you weren't born white.

None of your opinions matter because you're either
A.) Paypig who paid full price to own garbage
B.) Cuckold who formed his opinion based off YouTubers and Twitch Streamers
Seethe

dogshit game

iq test

Subhuman please

Why would you pay a bunch of money and use some gay computer launcher when you can play it on gamepass?
Anons claim this trend of "current player watching" is a zoomer thing but I'm pretty sure it aging millennials trying to make sense of an increasingly baffling world, to them

Post hand brownoid.

projection

Yup, ultra trans vibes from your posts.

it's not selling a gajillion copies

Normies need the bullet

I feel like I just saved 80 bucks thanks to Anon Babble sharing all these webms

subhuman nigger tries to change the subject

What's the matter, too much shit from devouring id tech 3 tech demo?

too expensive. I'm waiting for a sale

Looks boring as shit.
Also don't like the forced ray tracing, yeah it looks marginally better but it also runs significantly worse.

That's a lot of yapping and not a lot of hand showing. Guess you're just too embarrassed to show your brown hands.

shiteater makes demands

Yikes

Game had 0 marketing, normies didn't even knew another DOOM game was being made

I'm not paying $70 for this trash.
It's not doom, I'll play it when it drops below $20

Based Alizeebro.

why the fuck would i play this when i can play the plethora of excellent doom wads?

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Which wad

Full release is next year, I'd wait especially if you bought doom. I just think the only issue is lack of levels. It's hard.

what second life world is that?

short arcade-y single player game that's only 10 hours long, released early to those who pay extra, and is on multiple platforms, one of which offers it for free

HURRRRRR It ONLY HAS 30K CONCURENt PLAYERS ON StEAM IN tHE MIDDLE OF A WORK WEEK WHAt A FLOP

steamchart fags are unironicly mentally ill, this is the worse way to measure "success". Go back to actual sales you autistic fucks, next you'll be bringng up achievement percentages..

ancient aliens. enjoy hitting the peace pipe.

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If Anon Babble and mainstream gamers all hate it, that means it’s good. They’re too busy sucking off E33, which is a boring game with shit gameplay. Doom was never about normies. FUN is all that matters, something that Anon Babble desperately hates.

They blew all their money on the mecha and dragon sections

Don't even bother responding anymore. Everyone knows you're a street shitter.

you sound pretty desperate right now ngl

normiecore series

Doom was never about normies

What the fuck did he mean by this

you say this every time since 2016, we get it faggot

1080p dlss

what a fucking disgrace bros

BASED ARYAN DABBING ON JEETS

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Doom was never about normies.

And yet the releases are entirely catered to them. Focus groups are a thing.

FUN is all that matters

Something that this title lacks.

The Anon Babble contrarian shit stopped being entertaining over a decade ago.

ANCIENT FUCKING ALIENS

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Played

doom 1

I enjoyed it first pc game ever

doom 2

same as first much fun if not better kinda sucked no section swap but much super

doom 3

ngl when I was a little buddy the opening made me shit my pants helped me get over the fear of the vida Much fun still enjoy it to day thoe noticing its cracks still good time.

doom 64

great game little odd but hey still good

doom 2016

Great enjoyed the hell out of it kinda feels not so doomy but blood guts kill kill kill much fun

doom eternal

why do I have to sweat so hard to enjoy vida I didnt really sigh on to so much mechanic spam and things look a bit neon colored shit storm at times but over all was good enough

doom dark ages

Muddy messy bag of shit that if it wasn't for the names alone it wouldn't be doom spammed with quick time events, cut scenes, turret sections, and all manner of gimic's that where never apart of the core doom identity if anything its a progression of what doom 2016 and etenal was a rhythm biased shooter vs boom shootin.

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>tranny socks
Gotcha, subhuman

nvidia gaytracing is unnecessary, my 7900XT could eat this game but now I have to deal with framedrops because of some fucking puddle on the floor probably + denuvo + i don't buy games before they drop to $50 because no game is worth more than that

and yet you still buy shit careening out of bethesda's ass like the toilet you are.

samefag

Embarrassing

Normalfags stopped buying vidya to save their money because they realized GTA6 is going to cost $250 a pop.

samefag

Embarrassing

more like $350 after taxes, duties, tariff fees + tip.

copies his master's linguistics

Typical d3troon

consumes shit

wears different troon socks

You just can't make this shit up

achievement percentages

This will actually be hot topic here before long

e33 and doom are my main new games right now

It’s a singable player game. I will wait for discount.

normalfag calling anyone a normie

peak irony, I appreciate r*ddit at least for allowing faggots like you to expose yourself so easily

doom is DOOMED

I'm playing and enjoying it

dogshit

Oh it's another zoomer doomer post. Why do they all use the same words?

I just don't really play new video games anymore. They've been too shitty for too long and I lost interest in new games

It's like making a pizza and taking away the highly praised topping and replacing it with a lower quality cheaper version and then increasing the price of the pizza –expecting it to be well received

It is going to win the FOTY.
Flop of the Year.

it's not hulshult this time, they got another team to do the music

I have a backlog of 7 games that cost me $70 total.
One of them is a collection of four games.
It'll be another 6 months before I am open to a new game, and then I'll buy one for $30

fps games died?

Doom 3

you meant to type Quake 4, but that game is none of the things you mentioned, it's great. Doom 3 is a borefest where you walk into a room or a corridor and an enemy teleports behind you. At least you can skip the useless lore.

the boss demon is gay too, looks like something out of Destiny

i'm glad I got my 4080 before everything completely collapsed in on itself.

Aryan post, doom 3 is ahead of its time and generation, sadly with too much brownoids it will be a hidden treasure at this point.

i noticed the difficulty spiking hard at around chapter6? the game feels a lot harder than eternal for me (basic nightmare+lowered parry timing)

was getting absolutely raped by the game for the past 2 hours i was slogging thru these 2 maps but i think something clicked towards the end or maybe i just realized how op spamming the shield bash + ssg was, but like, trying to use any other weapon beside maybe the skull crusher and you're back in the slog.

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finish the siege part 1

Man, ignoring the combat changes which I am not against the levels being big ass open areas where to get upgrades for weapons you actually do need to explore every corner.

The game is absolutely harder than Nightmare on Eternal, especially if you play at 150% gamespeed. Even before touching the base 250% damage you take and putting it to 500%, which seems a tad ridiculous. The one thing I've noticed alot after replaying Eternal last year, is beyond prediction alot of projectiles straight up just home slightly towards you.

I like the game so far but is there a way to turn off that cheap-looking scratch/bite effect that pops up onscreen when you get hit by certain attacks?

cursive script

Why are you still here granpa?

That's a relief to hear. I just beat the fifth stage and about to get the dragon, but so far Nightmare in this feels like UV (what I normally play) in the last two games.

alot of projectiles straight up just home slightly towards you.

this has always been the case but its more egregious in TDA because the weird way the encounters are designed, enemies are "local" to their part of the encounter and dont move from there but they can still aggro you and just constantly throw shit at you from a distance your guns cant even reach. you basically have to have shield out any time you come out from behind cover since they'll nonstop shoot at you as well. it was extremely annoying on the night foresty map, by far the hardest or the most annoying map for me so far and i'm not even 50% into the game

Because it’s over

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did you get held at pic rel? if not then i doubt you will struggle like i did. i was pretty tired towards when i played but i still remember getting stuck for a bit on picrel, much earlier

So far I only got stuck at the room after you first get the spread skull crusher gun. For whatever reason that took me a few tries. And I died once to the elite Mancubus encounter because I didn't notice the little imps spawned in partway through.

it doesn't work

been going through the blood swamps since I burned out on the game when they released, Getting back into the game took awhile but I just reached Urdak.

Eternal is still the weakest nuDoom game

not anymore

You're not an eternalbro. Shoo shoo.

price

There is zero reason to buy this game when it runs like shit and can be completed on a free trail. You need a carrot and this game lacks it.
Seriously convince me to buy this game at it's full price when I can get more for less even with new games this gen

Put 220 hours on Eternal, it's possibly my favorite fps
I will probably put similar hours into TDA as it is also a great game, but not quite as good. But then again everyone knew from the beginning that they would never top Eternal

I think you guys are underestimating how many people were turned off by Eternal suddenly turning it into some kind of single-player e-sports game.

inb4 "shitter", "git gud", etc

Yeah yeah yeah, we've heard it all before, but if you want to know what the true public reception of a game is, don't look at its sales, but the sales of the next game, and how many choose whether or not to come back.

70 dollar games

Only 12 hours duration

Lmao

I-it's on gamepass that's why it doesn't do numbers!

So was expedition 33 and Oblivion remaster, cope

every single game has to be a bloated 40+ hour repetitive rpg

There are many valid complaints for this game but that is just fucking retarded, retards like you are why devs take 10 years to release a game nowadays

it's a shit game
I have to play it on 130% speed to even match the difficulty of doom eternal

I liked Eternal but it felt at times more like a character action game than a shooter.

Buying games on release in 2025

I have zero interest in buggy and incomplete games.

Oblivion is anti poorfag PCs and still got 100k+
Cope

you just defend a 12 hour repetitive slog you stupid cunt

It's not weekend yet and people are just learning how good it is through people like UnderTheMayo and Dunkey
It will hit its peak on Saturday and continue to sell and eclipse that shitty French game that bots are shilling here constantly

they turned doom into a simon says parry sim with mandatory (imo very poorly done) spyro dragon flying segments
all the obnoxious colors constantly flying around on the screen because everything needs to be color-coded for the retarded mandatory shield mechanics

just eyecancer and busywork after an hour or two, feels like they smashed the recent god of war games and doom together

wasnt eternal 2 so normies hate it
was too much like eternal so everyone else hates it

no seriously why is no one playing this?

I liked Doom Eternal but I'm trying to save some money and play games I already own and haven't beaten yet. Also, I've barely even touched the Witcher games, Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring or Dragon's Dogma 2 Also I'm saving my money for Ghost of Yotei.

for me this game is going to be value for potentially 3 update cycles (1-2 major dlc, then after all the master levels). the argument for just buying vs renting it depends on how much you are looking forwards to the DLC and potential post launch content.

Never really got to play 2016 or eternal
Can i just play this first
It's on gamepass anyways so it's not like i'm losing money

I saw Debra Wilson was involved and NAH NAH NAH

Based, the only aryan opinion. Play it with some awesome mod like DoomArcana and you get far better experience than any nudoom slop.

Needs an 800 bucks GPU to run at 60 fps medium 1080p

Narratively, it's a prequel to '16, so I imagine you probably could.

If it takes that long to be complete while missing features found in other games while still trying to shill me shitty skins in a single player first person shooter I will just wait a year or two for all the content

The game would be bearable a bit if you could shield charge without a target

"Why are graphics stagnating? This is bullshit!"

"Ok, we'll push the graphics forward."

"I have to buy new hardware now? This is bullshit!"

To me is a blessing since this game is a visual mess and the only way i can see some enemies is thanks to the shield targetting, maybe the should let you disable it or something

The graphics are still stagnant and they used shortcuts at the expense of the consumer to rush this incomplete piece of shit through the door.

Better than 40 hour repetitive slog you fat mess

Accurate

Somebody bought the game and has massive regret
Let me guess you need DLSS just to play at 1080p

I just wish you could quick-dash. That's the one thing I miss from Eternal.

Why would someone buy a 12 hour game and just beat it once when Ultra Nightmare is the true challenge of the series for the modern games

most fags ik are either playing on pc gamepass or xbox gamepass. one guy ik is playing on ps5. all i know is ill buy it on sale eventually with all the dlc

No, it's because it released during covid.

the retarded marvel slop Doomvengers story turned me off this franchise for good.

I'm waiting for a keep the dead mod, idk why they have the corpses disappear after a few seconds. Can't even enjoy the cool gore system

Nope 120+ at 1440p because I'm not poor

Almost done with my 2nd playthrough on nightmare and thoroughly enjoying it
You on the other hand are seething on Anon Babble

well speaking for myself im not playing it because im too busy smoking crack

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So DLSS regardless
Also I'm not poor either the difference is I have standards and won't eat industry poison slop

Whatever helps you feel better about being a whiny fat retard

what is optimisation towards specific hardware

zoomzooms aren't the brightest.

Doesn't deny the DLSS cope

Sorry for having taste you seem very upset most gamers don't want to buy your slop and will only rent it

No I just thought your comment about it being only 12 hours was stupid. I'm now sticking around to call you fat and retarded because you clearly are

are you serious?

Yeah your feelings are hurt kek

Your ankles probably hurt worse than my feelings bud!

Look I just dont think Dark Ages is fun.

Is this supposed to be a controversial opinion?

Alright you're too ass blasted
Get your last word because you're autistic and full of regret and I'm going to play a fun game.
I'm going to play strangers of paradise hope you enjoy your slop

Same, it's just reskin of same old slop released 4 years ago and 8 years sgo, based on cliche slop released 32 years ago.

Faggots who got scammed $100 are going to cope hard

Oh yeah your cholesterol felt that one

Maybe I'm the wrong audience but I quit a few minutes into the tutorial. It's just not very fun. There's no 'fun factor' no 'wow this rocks!' You know?

strangers of paradise

Also a gigaslop bit whatever.

Does it look meaningfully better than what those thirdie PCs can play?

Game runs and looks great on my Xbox.

Get your last word because you're autistic and full of regret and I'm going to play a fun game. I'm going to play strangers of paradise hope you enjoy your slop

KEK the irony

rtx 3060

should I even bother?

just watched the final cutscene

you were right Anon Babble
this game is literally marvel slop with a doom skin
feeling second hand embarrassment

Shockingly, it's really not. It runs spectacularly well, and who doesn't have an RTX card at this point?

I'm not paying €79,99 for this shit or literally any game. I was already skeptical of buying €69,99 vidya so these publishers can go fuck themselves if they think that I'm going to blow my entire months fun-fund on a single fucking game.

If i'm paying 1/6 of a fucking console for one game then it better have enough content to satisfy me

xbox chads, now is our time.

I have to admit, I'm pleasantly surprised by the giant mech parts. They are fun as fuck, and I was not expecting how destructible the environments are.

Yeah yeah we get it, you're poor

me

And that's bad, because???

noooo a need my goyslop every month where it's just same reused assets all over again with little to no new content and absolutely lack of originality

Kill yourself subhuman, even cod has more innovative originality than nudoom slop.

noooo a need my goyslop every month where it's just same reused assets all over again with little to no new content and absolutely lack of originality

Like souls games?
Also calm down zoomer before you piss yourself

Gay marketing shill thread

even cod

Yes you didn't have to say it, we all know this board is closet cod kiddies

if you hate one goyslop you must like the other

zoomzooms are at it again

Doom was the first game I bought in 3 years, I can guarantee you're eating a lot more slop than me

are you me

strawman

i actually just bought goyslop but you are the one who play it

this board is brown, I am leaving

Yeah it's brown because of fat morons like you shitting up the place

I'm playing it on game pass. Liked it at first but the movement is starting to feel shittier and shittier.
I thought I was happy about the inclusion of a sprint button until I realized it's toggle and not hold which feels like total ass, with no option to change it other than turning on auto sprint which has its own hang ups.

Go back to r*ddit faggot, your projections are weak

calls someone reddit

while also using "muh projection" as a coping mechanism

Holy leftist, yeah you're fat

Not Hulshult as the other anon said, it's a team who also worked on the Master Chief Collection.

Yeah it's missing some options that Eternal had. No way to turn off the compass at the top of the or the loot numbers in the corner. And no way to turn off the melee indicator on the reticle without changing it to just a dot. I don't need 2 indicators to know how much melee I have

turn doom into reddit shit

only redditors are left playing it

i cried. rest in peace,, big chungus

Projectingmaxxing

The compass isn't even useful because it has no marked directions.

The only projecting going on here is projectiles of food flying into your mouth

1080Ti here, not upgrading until good games come out.
This is the kind of game that didn't even need raytracing (linear, no day/night cycle), they made it obligatory because they wanted to save money while making your performance shit btw

Why dont you like Eternal?

I'll get it when I'm done playing Clair Obscur, which I have no doubt is better than TDA, even though I'm sure I'll enjoy TDA too.

still running a $150 1050Ti i bought in 2019. it covers the good era of games perfectly. games up to 2016 run at 1080 60 high settings, games up to 2021 on mid/low settings, and everything after is just uninteresting. still using a hard drive too. are there any good games coming out? i have the money to upgrade but if i'm still just playing l4d2 and new vegas it would be pointless

Obsessed fatass projecting + seething

Sure glad they had plenty of time to add pussy hand holding settings for every mechanic so the game plays itself tho!

Got nu-doom for like $4

Got Eternal for $12

As always, I'll be waiting.

"projection" is the gayest possible defense or banter you could add to this and it's all you got
Why would I call you fat if I was fat? Bet you failed math but definitely passed lunch tubby!

i like it overall and have 260 hours in it, but the skyrim levels were soulless, the sentinel sideplot felt like a parody of bad fantasy writing, and the gameplay relied more on special moves and combos than actual shooting. it looks like dark ages doubled down on all of those. i liked eternal's music and the earth levels but it looks like dark ages doesn't have that magic

the gameplay relied more on special moves and combos than actual shooting

Hmmm good point. Im currently playing Doom Eternal but Im not a Doom fan, just jumped into this. Was wondering from the fan perspective what problems they had with Eternal. I do enjoy the gadgets but the more they introduce its becoming dangerously close to too much.

Seething and projecting, your post do indicate that you're brown though because of how retarded and angry it is.

The game feels like it was made as a 3rd person fantasy game but is somehow an FPS.
It plays shitty like all the nu-Dooms with a bunch of QTE shit and animation locking nobody asked for.
Why didn't the devs just make a fucking hack and slash game out of this? It would have been way more interesting and the animation locking would be justified.

Yea, I didn't expect it to match eternal. Eternal pushed every mechanics to the brim already, to the point that it turns off less coordinated players.
The game req is just too high so I'll just wait when I upgrade and get the game on sale

Someone just posted CP in the catalog. Not even loli hentai, CP.

You're boring, and clearly projecting considering how angry you are. All that fat rage. Fat and angry, sad!

I didn't like Eterna's hub between missions, it got pretty annoying trying to get upgrades and shit done around the ship. HOWEVER I now appreciate it a little bit because some of the mission transitions in Dark Ages is beyond reasoning

get nade launcher and get a little tutorial at the end of a mission

end, no story

mission start, YOU ARE IN HELL NOW

Like t he jumps between areas feel like we have no buildup.

PS3 graphics

Parryshit

Need top of the line GPU for the game to work

No challenge

Racing sections (LMAO)

Worst enemy design ever

Slow Motion shit

Mobile game UI

Cut MP and Map Editor

Worst bosses of all time

No Mick Gordon

is this the worst game of all time?

I thought this was a troll post but holy shit. 30k is insane. Even Ass Creed had more players and that was also on subscription slop

Game has the XBOX stink, no thanks

Ass creed is a bigger franchise, or it used to be before shadows killed it.

The real ass creed numbers are out, 376k sales on steam, 1.27 million on sony, unknown but less than Steam sales for Xbox
Not sure how that would translate for this though.

That 1.27 should be a 1.7, bad typo

your shit game has no waifus, only trannies

holy fuck it flopped that hard LOL

I can smell the curry and cow dung from your post, it's really this brown tier retarded

RT required cuts out alot of people. This game basically looks the same as Eternal when in combat, but requires 4 times the requirements. I'm interested in seeing how many people bought it for console.

middle definitely but why are they in the simpsons house

Is this "CP"? it doesn't look like anything seriously worrisome.

I really think at least a portion of the dev team wanted to make a Quake or Hexen reboot out of this but got told to slap the Doom brand on it and continue the MCU-ish cringe from Eternal. Probably Hugo Martin's doing with Phil Spencer's backing.

This game feels like the best parts of Doom 1 and 2 when you have the Pulverizer out going fill auto on huge groups of fodder enemies. Fuck yes, this is such a massive upgrade from Eternal it's not even funny.

doom is largely irrelevant today, but you have to be retarded to claim FPS genre is dead

The ui looks like corporate slop, especially the font

nu-id doesn't know how to optimize games and also they've been putting gameplay in the backseat to make DOOMguy some capeshit superhero. It's kinda gay

Industry is in a dark age

You could say it's... Doomed

I'm not enjoying it as much as I thought I would desu.
Stand and fight is an epic for the sauce we did it reddit tagline but when it's just parry ikaruga but way slower it feels lame. Oddly enough the combat in Eternal felt meatier and heavier and that was zooming across the map like an ADHD ridden zoomer off his meds.

Shitty off-shoot ODST tier spinoff and third game in a particular continuity is the most expensive entry

Why is this a thing? They did thi with the remaster of Turok 3 too.

I can smell the curry and cow dung

So what you're saying is that you're a fat Indian, got it
Especially going by your fatass "projection" logic kek

too brown to understand how projection works

Please kill yourself, you're too braindead (and most likely obese judging by how obsessed you are) and unfunny to talk with.

I'm just fucking tired of every game asking me to parry.

Name 100.

The fat seethe is off the charts

now say the same about french tranny slop and you gonna get torn to ribbons by local indian mafia

My call from the first gameplay trailer was that it was both not enough like and too much like Eternal so nobody was going to love it, and I was right. It feels like a game of compromise.

For a game that's called "stand and fight" it's much, much less aggressive than Eternal. In Eternal you can zoom into the face of anything and do some combo bullshit and trash it all. This game's slow weapon swap speed and the more committal nature of almost everything you do makes that not nearly as much of a thing. It's also weird, Eternal's got the flame belch so that no matter what your playstyle or preferred weapons are, you can refill armor by getting close to something, but in this game there are conditions on getting armor back. You need to use certain weapons over others.

In general I can feel the lack of freedom of approach compared to Eternal constantly. I'll just say it, people who complained about no freedom in Eternal were just shit in the game. You were basically never constrained by anything in that game if you were decent. This game you feel so, so much weaker and less able to just riff and go ham with everything you have.

My thought of an Eternal sequel was always a game that focuses more on speed and scrappy evasion, giving up the brooling stunlocking shit that Eternal often boiled down to against big boys. This does the polar opposite. There's less freedom, less movement, and you are forced at gunpoint to brool and stunlock things to win.

age of chivalry mod, pirates vikings and knights 2, age of chivalry the game, age of chivalry 2, mirage, arcane warface, lichdom: battlemage, killing floor 2, can't remember the other slop

Jacky Chan 1-100

why are insecure pol dicklets so obsessed with saars? Are they still mad about Elon calling the right retards?

apple is no doubt better than orange

Explain how projection works. Why would someone call you fat if they are fat themselves?

Archville has the 'never gotten it before' euphoria while the Baron has enough control that you can tell he has hid sluts under his Hell-Desk multiple times. Revenant is a memer fuck screaming WRRRRRY.

That's only nine

and zoomers still didnt create anything yet other than ebonics they stole that also from the 80s and 90s

I shouldn't be surprised since we go through it every time, but people trying to tortanic dark ages by holding it to eternal (the zoomers doom according to the same people) is a bit funny

Doom the Dark Ages: 20 hours, 100$, 85 metacritic
Expedition 33: 60 hours, 50$, 93 metacritic
Why would I buy Doom?

poorfag autism

size is not a criticism, make space

That's way too much than there should be, and you can also add all the mount and blade goyslop.

Now name me a first person mana system Magic shooters?

Uhhhhh... Heretic/Hexen?

trannies are really studio warring against doom

buzzword cope

Enjoy the shart ages bro.

Why would I play a fps shooter when I could play a jrpg

Only on Anon Babble do you see this kind of retardation

heretic

Pickup slop, no mana system, literal doom clone in literal sense as it has doom exact code for 90% of weapons

hexen

Same as above, no mana system as it's relied on pickup. Exception of sapphire wand that takes no ammo.
Pickup = ammo.
Mana system = regenerates/replenish without external world.

30k has to be like 1/10th of their projections… kind of incredible how hard digital-only backfires, even for triple-A titles…. Market will change from this, a good thing

Aint gonna pay that much for a game and I wont go for monthly subscriptions

The game will still be good in 1-2 years, probs even better with patches

I watched a video on Ongbal's channel, and it's just some goofy cartoony shit with a super easy block mechanic. The boss literally kept talking non-stop in a JRPG villain style.

This is not Doom.

Thats bullshit, its a clear move away from both the bing bing wahoo and the stupid 3 weapon switches per second puzzleshooter gameplay

their projection for a gamepass game is also 300k concurrent on Steam

Nah, anything "lost" by Steam is made up by having it on PS5.

is anyone else not enjoying dark ages as much as eternal? I don't know why I'm not having as much fun but I'm just not

AFAIK Steam counts some consoles in their current playlist. Basically everyone with internet access is counted…

This but Sony

this looks like shadow warrior

Behold! This is how much Doom graphics have improved in the past ten years.

whole time im playing TDA i just feel like replaying 2016

game takes advantage of higher specs

poorfags lose it crying poor optimization as they aren't real PC players,

makes me laugh every time, and they say consoles are holding us back

that's almost everyone i feel like

In general I can feel the lack of freedom of approach compared to Eternal constantly. I'll just say it, people who complained about no freedom in Eternal were just shit in the game. You were basically never constrained by anything in that game if you were decent. This game you feel so, so much weaker and less able to just riff and go ham with everything you have.

It's the exact and total opposite. 2016 and Dark Ages are pure, unrestrained freedom to approach every enemy and encounter however you want with whatever you want. Eternal is tethered and bound by abysmally low ammo counts, stupid abilities on cooldowns that must be spammed, having to chainsaw and glory kill every single enemy nonstop, and individual enemies all having a weakness to specific weapons. Eternal absolutely never let's you play how you want and forces one solution on you at all times, the definition of railroaded garbage. The Dark Ages is so fucking refreshing, you can carry more ammo for your weapons and use whatever you want at any given time because barring a few instances every weapon is viable against all enemies. There's no chainsaw or glorykill reliance as ammo and health pickups actually exist on the map and are suitably abundant. The Dark Ages is how not only Doom should play and should be, but the FPS genre in general. Fucking soulless retarded tranny.

It's too long and there's too much gimmick crap. I started a second playthrough and got bored after the first map.

70 dollars now is like 60 dollars then

It isn't
Everything got more expensive and smaller while our wages remained the same
Video games are not an expenditure that's high priority

It's fun, but a little too easy at times on Ultra Violence.

people hate eternal for being ADHD social media bait

this game slows it slightly, attempting to be a mix of both games to cover the new defensive options

autists hate it

Naturally, kill yourselves.

No I'm enjoying it more

you're actually retarded lmao

TDA definitely looks underwhelming, though to be fair it it throws like 10x the amount of enemies at you that 2016 does.

Eternal "fans" are a vocal minority of braindead troons, and that's a fact. I'm glad iD was smart enough to veer away from their praise here. There's hope that whatever their next game is will be one of their best yet in going back towards their older games, assuming Hugo Martin isn't allowed to MCU-ify it at least.

I don't think you can say this with a straight face. Eternal's campaign doesn't have a single enemy that makes you interact with them in one way. Swap speeds are quick and ammo is infinite so you can use whatever you whenever you want with no gap. Meanwhile in Dark Ages you're constantly forced into retarded shield minigames. You have to stick with one weapon at a time because slow swap speeds make doing otherwise clumsy as fuck. Everything aside from shooting is committal and interrupts other actions.

Try to fight a cyberdemon on nightmare without engaging in parrysloppa and tell me this game is more free than Eternal. It's absolutely insane.

You're also forced into playing the dogshit dragon and mech levels which is more egregious forced gameplay than most shooters period

Eternal is my least favorite of the trilogy but it never forces you into taking down enemies any certain way. It suggests ways to counter them but there's always alternatives.

Everybody seems to hate the mech but I thought it was alright. Felt like early-game Breakdown before you got the upgraded moveset.

the dragon gameplay is the true undiluted dogshit but the mech is just bad because it's a slow, stupid combat setpiece in a series basically defined by having good shooter combat.

Eternal was fun, The Tard Ages is not. Simple as.

Some people believe all video games should have non-lethal stealth takedowns... so the bad guys can be rehabilitated into good guys in the unspoken meta.

No me. I prefer watching their flesh get shredded before the final bullet obliterates them.

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This

there is literally no sense in which dark ages is attempting to be anything like 2016. 2016 is dead simple freeform run and gun, it's Eternal without the challenge and balance. Dark Ages still has relatively limited ammo compared to 2016 and it forces you to play simon says games absolutely nonstop. It's less mobile, less aggressive, it's just some weird third thing that's kind of like Eternal but different in enough ways that someone that likes Eternal a lot will not like it.

I just can't take the shield seriously
I think it mostly comes down to that. Rather than moving quickly around the map, double jumping and shit, you just hold x to block or whatever

Is this the Final Fantasy effect in action? Autistic game directors think it's cool to keep revamping their series to the point that fans have been completely splintered and they can't gain enough momentum for their newest releases anymore regardless of their perceived quality.

yeah it spawns of a bunch of fodder enemies that infinitely respawn

damn fps campaigns really peaked with wolfenstein new order huh

$70 in this economy for a 10 hour game

Half of people are too broken to afford that l shit.

i have a rtx 3050 which can't run quake 2 rtx at 60 fps. am i good?

Doom is a console franchise now. Nobody cares about Steam.

It's all about Gamepass and PS5.

I thought it was going to be used as a boomerang like in Godfall. But it acts more like a magnet that gets stuck in an enemy and pulls you into an enemy like a bull moving at light speed. And all nearby enemies die from the shockwave. I love it.

game isn't even on the disc it just has a file size of 85 megs. game is 85 gigs, disc can hold 100 gigs

miss me with that shit.

its actually just too expensive
i love doom but i cant justify the purchase

Yeah it's embarassing getting seen playing a game with less than at least 100k.
I put off trying the game because of that.

I'm just not really into shooters where you constantly change weapons. It feels silly.

THE DOOM is Doom 1993 and wads for Doom 2.

like a bull moving at light speed

Charging at least speed, I should have said. It's invigorating seeing a pack of demons and connecting to the one in the middle to destroy the whole group instantly.

I'm on a 2080 Super and it's smooth as butter at 1440p ultra settings and DLSS on. You should be fine, it runs a lot better than I was expecting from reviews and benchmarks. I would consider it technical wizardry from iD yet again because it looks better than Eternal, has significantly more enemies on screen at any given time, and the environments are full of destructible objects and yet it never so much as stutters.

in this one i think you have to change weapons less than in 2016 and eternal

least speed

Light speed. Jeez. Time to go to sleep.

70 bucks

2080 super min requirements

lost 80% of the pc playerbase right there

Active people have reputation bro. Playing low numbers games makes you look like those quiet ugly nerds at school.

people vastly overestimate the mainstream appeal of doom. eternal was big because everyone was at home
also the game costs 80 euros and requires a fairly good gpu to run. this eliminates vast majority of pc players

Surprised more people aren't talking about this. It's what Nintendo is doing with their switch 2 games too.

covid killed game designers, way too many normies got into them and now everything needs to be cinematic and slower so they can understand whats going on

I don’t even have a card that can run it.
I can’t justify such a purchase because I hardly play modern games. Outside of Eternal, the only two games that released this decade on the PC that I would play is Talos Principle 2 and fucking Tetris.

For me? The promotional material simply didn't hit as hard the Eternal or 2016. And now having watched youtube videos, its no wonder.

I considered purchasing it but it was more expensive that I thought. Like some anons posted here, I'll probably just buy it once it goes on sale and/or they have a complete edition.

I can't afford a $80 dollar game in Drumpf's economy