Give players what they want

Literally who wanted this?

the only thing that would make me change my mind would be
1. public execution by firing squad of every single developer
2. complete groveling and supplication apology from all the people responsible
3. the entire company scrapped and all assets given for free to anyone who requests it
if and only if these are met, I will consider buying the game
I am not mentally ill btw

require rtx

It's a fun game but it ain't Doom
Which is a problem when Eternal was almost as Doom as Doom, probably as Doom as a modern game can be

Gamers don't want shitnuvo and shit perfomance

dont think theres ever been a shooter from way back that didnt turn to complete shit trying to adapt to current generations of players, they worked back then for a reason and to suddenly remake/remaster/reimagine them now is just stupid

Just look at the video of the mech fight against a huge demon. It looks like a super Sentai fight. No impact or strength in any of the movement.

give players what they want

I don't recall seeing a single huge tiddy in the trailer or the in-game footage since release

Nobody asked for a third Doom game. Eternal already gave everyone what they could ask for and Dork Ages does nothing interesting

But Monster Hunter Wilds did fine. If they didn't want to pay the $100 2-day early access, they could've waited with the $70 one.

Which is a problem when Eternal was almost as Doom as Doom, probably as Doom as a modern game can be

easy there, buddy

Lack of multiplayer is the reason, but they won't acknowledge that fact. People want a basic competitive multiplayer mode to go with any given FPS and they skipped over that entire this time for no good reason.

Just watch it, this will end up being considered the best Doom in 10 years out of the new trilogy.

The price is the other reason.

retards buying shit for retards is fine

Good work anon you figured out why the industry is fucked. Tune in next time when we figure out why it'll never be fixed

$80 DOOM: The Blandening edition.

base your entire gameplay around boring shield mechanics

DOOM dragon segments are lazy developer tier content

require rtx when most of the planet probably still doesn't have a card that can operate it

put it on gamepass after people watch early access streams about how shit the game is

Literally the ONLY thing keeping bethesda alive right now is the oblivion remake. That's two fucking stinkers in a row. If they manage to make the next elder scrolls flop we might see another ubisoft tier collapse.

Fuck em.

MH is one of the most popular franchises in the world and especially in Asia where the market for shit like that is huge.

You fags spent 5 years complaining that Eternal "wasn't a real Doom game" and then instantly did a 180 when this was shown off. Now you're going to spend the next 5 years complaining that this "isn't a real Doom game" and then do a 180 as soon as the next game comes out.

MH has a live service angle going for them so they can afford to do that shit. Doom was never that type of game. It came first and has a ton of goodwill but it never actually had the pull to demand $80 for a singleplayer centered game. And most of the competition there is now FREE with skins/lootbox/VIP pass business models so it's way behind on all metrics.
Just a complete shit show all around. Fun to watch every now and then.

Eternal should have been considered a magnum opus. But covid hurt it.

reddoom

do nyot reddoom saar

I don't think anyone was hoping for a Doom version of redlight greenlight. The obnoxious colored parry slo-mo shit is retarded. And you're paying a silly amount for a short single player game.

I'm pretty sure Microsoft is driving up the purchase prices mostly because they wish it is going to drive more people into becoming renters instead of buyers through the Game Pass.

require rtx when most of the planet probably still doesn't have a card that can operate it

Yeah the entire point of pc gaming is to look and perform better than a console, and they shit all over that by halving everyone's performance cause they were too lazy to light the game. High end cards should easily be hitting 200 frames with a game like this and they're struggling to hit 150 without upscaling and framegen

Monster hunter is not a huge franchise. It's had 2 huge games and that is it retard. The only reason world blew up is because streamers & it was under 25 bucks within a year. The only reason wilds is doing well is because they paid asmongold & a literal tranny to shill their shit

It's true. AAA studios always try to put a hat on a hat

also, the slippery slope is a fallacy, chuds

require rtx when most of the planet probably still doesn't have a card that can operate it

It's this one by far.
It's by no means a great game, but a major franchise like this with little to no controversies that's vaguely positively regarded should've sold like hotcakes, particularly given that worse games have easily sold better.
But the outright inability to play the game due to requiring what's essentially (in the grand scheme of Graphics card ownership) a niche feature present on only a few owned cards is a death sentence on PC, despite it being a feature on most Consoles.

80$ saar

PC players are only interested in playing flavor of the month meme indie garbage like Palword and Cookie Clicker

what they want

Clearly no one wanted any of this

It's not about the gameplay
It's not about the cinematics

It's about the fact that it's a prequel. That's literally the only reason. People instinctively hate prequels. They know they are unimportant because otherwise the story would've started with them. To make a successful prequel you need to promise them that they will witness a great change, like Anakin turning into Darth Vader. TDA doesn't have that at all, Doomguy doesn't change, he is a killing machine from start to finish.

Thus, everyone knows that TDA is simply less than Eternal

reddit trannies cried about Eternal being "too fast and too weapon focused"

iD instead of just ignoring them slows the game down and dumbs down the guns

proceeds to add scripted bullshit turret sequences and other gimmicks too

and a fucking story which no one asked for when Eternal was already panned for its somewhat minimal story too

80 European credits

Yeah fuck that, I didn't like Eternal's gameplay and having a shield gimmick sure doesn't sound worth the price

It's not Doom. It's not Quake. It's not Hexen. It's a little weird and a little bland.

I just got done playing it for 10 hours, what the fuck is this story?

I think Capcom and From are the only ones that could milk me for 70$ or more, since I know almost for sure that I'll spend at least a hundred hours on a monhun or souls title, probably a few hundred hours in fact over a long enough time. So it isn't the worst bang for buck. Something like Doom I'd play once and be done with, not opening my wallet for that.

who asked for a giant robot?

we want the marvel audience

When did I say I wanted slow, shield focused combat with an emphasis on parries?

I don't think either game was a real doom, faglord.

If it didn't have doomguy or doom in the title no one would even fucking know it's a doom game, just be some random fucking fantasy faggotry 7/10 blip that's forgotten about immediately.

To be fair, half the casual audience was complaining Eternal had a giant robot in the base that never got used.

wilds isnt 80.

Give players what they want

kick out composer that made the soul of your reboot

keep gamifying your game with color-coded parries

make guns kinda poop

remove swapping entirely instead of making it not mandatory for microscopic damage phases

They did a lot of things wrong with this one but outside of that the game is pretty good. Genuinely just burned a lot of goodwill with eternal and the drama. Also

can't run game

Optimization is a myth to modern devs

the entire point of pc gaming is to look and perform better than a console

The entire point of PC gaming is flexibility. You can run it on your $5000 beast to make it look better than consoles at higher FPS, or you can run it on your old budget PC at low settings and 30 FPS if you want. Or even an 'eck.

I didn't even know about it being a prequel, the moment I heard it had forced raytracing I did a 360 and walked away, stopped looking into the game and basically wrote it off.

10 hour long game

2 of those hours are in cutscenes

Turret Segments and weird flight segments

Removes one of the most renown video game composers of all time.

Story is only loosely tied to the actual Doomslayer

Slowed down gameplay

People complained actively about the one faggy enemy that forced players to react and parry. Dude what if we designed a sequel with that mechanic as the main gimmick.

Gee I wonder why there might be a couple complaints.

this brown cringe gabage shit is not doom

but THIS cringe garbage shit that's also colorful and represents all colors from my favorite rainbow fag flag is DA REEL DOOOOM I SAY RIP AND TEAR RIP AND TEARINGLY HAHA LE EPIC ZOOM SLAYA SLAYS DEMONZZZ FUCK YEAH

Fuck off, nigger

no controversies

The Mick Gordon thing was huge even if it was everyone's fault

80 EU bucks for the same copypasted American school simulator

No thanks

I wanted mandatory ray tracing, always online drm and cringe ah ah lore at a 70 dollar price tag?

My friend was going to buy it but didn't because it costs fucking 90€ for standard edition

As a rule, man is a fool.
When it's hot, he wants it cool.
When it's cool, he wants it hot.
Always wanting what is not.

gameplay>colours

Removes one of the most renown video game composers of all time.

This shit's huge. Music's important, it's like half the reason E33 is selling so well.
It's the reason I got into nu-Doom, Nier Gestalt, Umineko... Just blasting the soundtrack on youtube until I eventually bought the games.

>give players what they want

who asked for a shield, slowmo melee, turret sections, giant robot sections, etc.?

Who wanted this?
You whiny fucks complained about eternal despite it being the peak of gameplay and difficulty out of any of the doom games, and now you want to complain it isn't like eternal

No one asked for this.
It's better than eternal.
It's still shit.
Suffah Painkiller the Bulletstorm ages.

eternal should have had a giant robot section because they kept showing off giant robots and never put you in one
unfortunately in this one the giant robot sections just suck

Monster hunter is not a huge franchise

Anon, they released a freaking hollywood movie for it. It's a bigger franchise than you realize.

It's better than eternal.

it's not

Nier Gestalt

crazy how the story & music makes that dogshit combat worth it

Only bit of Eternal I ever complained about was the DLC, because some of the design choices they made there were retarded. Worst one being that Spirits could only be damaged by the worst weapon mod because they wanted to make a stupid ghost busters reference

It genuinely looks like shit, both in presentation and in gameplay. It reminds me of a mobile game.

I didn't wanted that game

make an entire new fanbase of nu-doom fans

We've returned to the classic projectile based gameplay of the classic dooms!

Also here's your shield (????)

The game is just fucking confused

Anon Babble lost
Eternal Chads won bigly

Doom and Eternal were THE templates for modern PC optimization

lets take about 20 steps back with forced Meme Tracing

How? How do you royally fuck up the one good thing you were known for?

Anon Babbleedditors are so focused on the surface appearance of eternal they can't see the gameplay, which makes sense since most have never played it because they hate video games

It is but that doesn't mean much for anyone that isn't an eternalfag hoping an even bigger trainwreck will absolve them with the star wars prequeleffect

neutered game at full price when I have hundreds of games to play instead

Accessibility is a cancer. If you water down and make everything shitty to not offend or exclude anyone, you get something that nobody gives a shit about.
Nearly every show for kids had that stupid fucking

what if everyone was a grey blob and nothing stood out

and we literally have AAA gaming forgetting that basic lesson.

I'm glad games are dying its been a long time coming

So how many dollars better than doom 2016 does it look?

QRD/Summary of the story? Sounds like a shitshow.

Doomguy gets caught under a fridge so you play as a black disabled trans person (female identifying)

10 hour long game that gets boring halfway in

I run it at the ultra nigger preset. And I think microshit should me refund gapeass for the month. Maybe the first ID game that brings no gfx improvement.

the story is eternal's story

Eternal wasn't on gamepass at launch, and was launched during covid.

Hold to skip

Only if you are a triple a fag who doesn't play any other games. So basically 90% of those cock gobbling homosexuals here, including you.

One of the tragicomic aspects of Dark Ages is that they clearly tried to copy the old school Heavy Metal Magazine aesthetic and vibe, but did it without any of the edge and sexiness that were staples of the Heavy Metal Magazine aesthetic.

I want Doom 2016 v2, not zoom eternal not dark ages.

Good, they will bake their lighting to get more sales.

I watched the digital foundry video, that part where he is in a big room with a huge statue and nothing going on

"all the lighting in this scene is dynamic"

Why?

inqueery

The fact its "queer" at all is the problem.

Wokeslop is over.

Nobody wanted a game gated past a ray tracing video card

give players what they want

Who in the fuck asked for more casual parryslop downgrade sequels?

We are seeing quality indie studios popping up coming out of the wreckage of the AAA studio dumpster fire.

$80 standard AAA pricing is going to be the death of mediocre studios that churn out mediocre trash and expect the masses to just eat it up.

anon san! girls with dicks

Its really the hardware limitations.

The gameplay is fine, but it also requires way too fucking much to run, while looking not much better than 2016 did.

MH wilds was really the nail in the coffin for normies when it comes to slopping ip unoptimized dogshit.

It just comes off as inauthentic. Like the designers never actually cracked one of these opened or took one look at one of the girls in thongs holding big ass swords and went "yikes sweaty, that's a lil too male gaze-y ya'll." It all reeks of the kind of guy that would get uncomfortable if a girl hit on him.

The gameplay is fine

Oh yeah, who doesn't love the constant slowdown every time you block, or that the blocking angles are all over the place. Or were you talking about the gameplay from the dragon and mech parts? Get real, champ.

The novelty of boomer shooters has worn off and people are certainly not willing to pay $70 for one

I'm not paying 80€ for a videogame.
I hope the AAA industry crashes and burns so they get their heads out of their asses.

I didn't want Dark Ages, I wanted a brand new DOOM interpretation. Even if it was something crazy, I'm just tired of Doom Slayer shit. Don't get me wrong I loved 2016 and Eternal and I'll probably get Dark Ages eventually but I'm tired of this portrayal of Doom now. It needs to move on.

Especially when better games are selling $50 or less.

I want horror DOOM again, sue me.

I'm not A$ 119.95 for a FPS game with no multiplayer

What the players want is to shoot at the cyberdemon till it dies. And it seems id Software is hellbent on ensuring there's as little of that as possible.
They're running into the exact same problem as 3D platformers in the late 90's where every developer thought just making a good 3D platformer wasn't good enough and so you got games with endless gimmicks like vehicle levels, additional non-platforming characters and literally thousands of collectibles.
I look forward to seeing the next Doom reboot in about fifteen years that'll go back the basics of shooting at the cyberdemon till it dies.

I was cruising through TikTok, and happened to catch one of the dragon riding scenes.
And that fucking gameplay looked like one of those fake Chinese mobile game ads. Shit looked stiff, rigid, hard, solid. Like you're playing an on-rails shooter.
Fucking dogshit if you ask me.