Doom The Dark Ages

HOLY SHITTTTTT

the dark age indeed...

Is this the biggest flop of all time? Keep in mind Concord was not a 30 year old beloved series.

doomsisters...

JUST

I will never spend 70 on a video game

games unironic mid as fuck slop
2016 was the only good one of the "trilogy"
eternal was bingbing wahoo arcade bullshit for ADHD riddled faggots
dark ages is for mid-life crisis BADASS YEEHAW faggots
and neither are fucking doom

kill yourself OP
total tortanicfag death

I got bored of 2016, but at least it had a nice presentation/art.

The revolting UI of eternal alone let me not consider it.

its definitely got the attention of the AAA industry, this is pretty bad

its $1 on game pass you dumbass

What? People beat this SINGLEPLAYER GAME and moved on. What's the problem?

Companies don't know what gamers want. It's over.

so what's next for John Doom after Dark Ages?

people beat it and moved on

The MH Wilds defense I see.

hey guys whats the most hated part of doom eternal

uhhhh
the shitty marauder?

lets make a game around that

No one bought it, no one wants to buy it, let alone spend their time playing it. But sure keep telling yourself the sold millions of copies and those millions of players have finished it, retard.

The most tumblrtwitter choice would be a Steampunk setting.

All three are a parody of Doom.

Blatant rip off of international Karate+ on the commodore 64

based on the sales, retirement

Nah, 2016 was an actual attempt at making "Doom, but today."
It's not great, but you can see if if you look past the bullshit obvious "we need to add this because MODERN GAMERS" like the halo ass 'story' etc.

lol it has less than half the max concurrent players Failguard did
and we remember how that turned out

SHUTUP BIGOT
ITS ON GAMEPASS

which does nothing positive for the success of the game

Holy shit that's true. Kind of odd I don't see this being pointed out everywhere, I wonder why.

The thing that even id didn't understand was that 2016's "Halo ass story" was actually good. Everyone was pleasantly surprised by it (unskippable cutscenes are a technical problem, not a story problem).
But it's like id heard none of that praise so they decided to go all in on Marvelshit instead.

Gen Z doesnt play games, they watch people play games

good thing dark ages is boomercore slop for

*Cracks beer* YEP ME N THE BOYS DOIN MAN STUFF MANLY MAN YEAH WE BADASS *cranks dragon handlebars*

basedbeared millenials having their mid-life crisis

I feel this game came about from a misunderstanding of what people wanted out of nu-Doom.

Eternal felt like they had somewhat of an understanding of what people wanted and expected out of a Doom 2016 sequel, just that they went a bit too far in certain aspects and some of it didn't work. It coming out right at the start of the lockdowns, the Animal Crossing x Doom memes and good word of mouth about 2016 helped Eternal immensely in the sales department.

In an Xbox Direct presentation, I remember they mentioned the theme for the gameplay in Dark Ages was to "Stand and fight" as opposed to "Run and gun" and "Jump and shoot" of 2016 and Eternal. It's clear they designed a lot of the game around having a shield which might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but it just leads to less interesting gameplay as opposed to just going around and shooting shit while avoiding attacks. I feel the decision to slow the game down and focus on blocking/parrying certain colored attacks made the game seem a bit boring and slow compared to the previous 2.

Doom Eternal felt like it went too far in taking what worked in Doom 2016 and amped it up in terms of the gameplay/combat at times. The Dark Ages feels like Id heard the criticism some had about Eternal and overcorrected and made a game that is far too slow and less interesting as opposed to something at the pace of Doom 2016.

It also seems that the developers wanted the game to be "epic" and "badass" but failed to realize that Doom 2016 and to an extent Eternal were already that, not because of setpieces and cutscenes, but from the gameplay itself. Doomguy doesn't need to do "epic" and "badass" stuff in cutscenes, you the player should be doing "epic" and "badass" stuff in the gameplay.

Should have added cooking mechanics

I actually like Doom TDA. On my third nightmare run, with modified game speed and parry window. Getting bored, but 2.5 consecutive runs is a good sign.

I do kind of want the game to fail because Id needs to be punished for forcing ray tracing. That single-handedly ruined the experience for 95% of players. All for some Nvidia shekels.

I still had a week of game pass left so I gave this game a shot. I forced myself to finish the first 10 chapters to see if it got better. It doesn't.
The parrying feels novel for a little bit, it reminded me of Cuphead in first-person. But the constant slow-mo ruins it.
The levels are too vast and the gameplay ends up feeling like a chore. It's like each objective is an invisible checklist. 0/4 portals destroyed. 0/40 demons killed. Be a good little slayer and kill all the mobs so the boss loses his invulnerability. It all feels like Diablo 4 or some shit, it's slop game design.
The kaiju and dragon segments are also braindead garbage. The game just doesn't have anything remarkable about it, there's no reason to play it.

so was Expedition 33 and Oblivion

This game is $120 AUD. Why? There have been a bunch of decent games this year <$90. What justifies this game being so much more expensive?

eternal also had denuvo cracked day 1 because of bethesda leaking the denuvo-less exe which made them remove it immediately from the official game which improved its performance and increased the buzz around it when pirates played it
well, here they have their denuvo-infected game with forced raytracing. I hope they enjoy their sales

make sure to download tunic and carrion on gamepass

I might try it when it gets on sale for 5 bucks. Is the parry window as big as it seems in some videos? Sometimes it looks like the green thing super far away and the guy still gets the parry.

The parry window changes based on the difficulty you choose

I might try it when it gets on sale for 5 bucks. Is the parry window as big as it seems in some videos? Sometimes it looks like the green thing super far away and the guy still gets the parry.

The default parry window on nightmare is huge. You can even parry things behind you.

muh le moved on cope

two friends tried playing this shit on gay-pass
they both quit at the dragon part
one called it busywork
one called it "gay faggot woke shit"
second friends kinda weird ngl but he prob right

Hopefully Hugo is fired and nu-doom/DA SLAYA is finished

I think this game is better than Eternal in literally every way. 2016 remains the best but this isn't too far off. The plot, which is an Eternal holdover, is primarily what's holding it back.

There's a retarded story involving some Stronk Womyn that keeps interrupting the gameplay.

At this point it probably is just some lefty's wanky writing taking too much oxygen (yet again) so may as well just call it what it is.

Wilds having only twice as many players as World is crazy to me.

people can't run this game because its an unoptimized piece of shit

Anons said the same about MHWilds and that got a peak of a million. That can't be it.

And what games are these 2 usually playing?

lol im still on 567.02 from april
game ran butter smooth compared to my two friends who updated their shit for the gameready drivers

Boku no Piko, Natsuyasumi, and Otokonoko Delivery
whats it to you

I don’t understand how it’s woke

lol im still on 567.02 from april

the fuck, drivers are the last thing you look at when you need a 50 series card for med 1080p

you couldnt see how spiderman 2 was woke either you manchild fuck
stop skipping leg day

bruh i played on high/some ultra or w/e at 1080 on a 4070ti 12gb
it ran at like 70-80 FPS (All the upscaling shit off, fuck that gay smeary shit)
dont underestimate how fucking awful nvidias last 2-3 driver releases have been
or youre a lying fucktard or something
idk

Wilds did well solely off hype (which TDA didn't really have), it tanked super-hard almost immediately

or youre a lying fucktard or something

no, i've seen their charts, thats where i m getting my infor. i m not giving nvidia any money.

I liked him better when he was just doomguy

or w/e

Everyone who says this is just a liar.

i forget if its called ultra or very high, OR W/E
niggerlet
was only two options anyway, everything else was high cept shadows
shadows turned down because nvidia has been faggots for 6 years about shadows shitting up the performance unreasonably

I don’t watch or play Spider man stuff though. How is dark ages woke?

microsoft game

is anyone actually surprised?

what freezes more
doom the shit ages
or the Anon Babble catalog

Too expensive?

It's "only" 70 for you thanks to regional pricing. In yurop it's 80€ which is about $90 of your american burgers right now.

sounds like your pc is ass

sounds like im a retarded faggot who doesnt get whats being said because autism stops him from picking up social cues

nice blogpost idiot

this was a filler game as is, it basically did nothing but explain muh wraiths and add an excuse to throw quake in it like a multiverse. they don't know what to do with their stupid setting they feel so indulgent on, they may as well just fuck off to a different IP

Not sure why so much of the story seems to be centered around that one dyke, who the hell plays a Doom game for some random stupid cutscenes showing characters no one cares about?

2016 was an actual attempt at making "Doom, but today."

Only two or three maps felt like that. 80% of the rest of the game is just Painkiller, especially the entire final third.

Does this get added to the "get woke go broke" compilation because of the difficulty setting thing?

i said attempt
i didn't say success

this game is just a excuse to try and revive quake again isnt it

The SLAYA riding the dragon like it was a Harley is possibly the only kino thing about that shit.

I'd rather take that over 100% Painkiller.

Obviously it's a pipe dream but can you imagine if GTA6 flopped? It would cement the collapse of the industry.

It really feels like it lacks the replay value of eternal but I don't know what it is

Eternal literally retired him, then they went the prequel route but didn't do the 2016/Eternal bridge that people actually wanted. Should've committed to a new Quake or something entirely new

Honestly? It just might happen. I know it sounds crazy, but with the cost of living shooting up everywhere, a completely insane dev cost, and cockstar wanting to price hike, it's very likely that it will under perform.

it sucks

Do they still even do a $1 deal? I looked and it's $12 even on a new account

the worst part of Eternal is the movement leading to an overreliance on platforming

cut back on both of these, making a true blend between 2016 and Eternal

Autists hate it and are celebrating the game's "downfall"

Make it make sense, is it just blind anti-Microsoft/gamepass hate or something more?

Dark Ages was the Doom love letter to Quake, so the next one will be the love letter to Wolfenstein and we'll see Doom but WW2. There will be a promotional clip of Doomguy punching a nazi. Debra Wilson will return but this time she won't be merely a voice actor, she'll have an entire character modeled after her. The game will release before the Elder Scolls Hammerfell game drops. Screenshot this post.

the platforming was the the only good part of Eternal

all muti-hour rpgs

lol great point, retard

Nah, they won't do shit to close the gap.

After Dark Ages' somewhat tepid response I wouldn't be so sure. It feels like they tried to bet on the whole "people want to see more of Doom's cyber-knights! lots more!" angle, which didn't really work out. With that in mind, it's not hard to imagine the devs shuffling their initial plans and using the planned dlc to relatively close the book on all this night sentinel stuff, with any future nuDoom games focusing more on traditional Doom-like settings or even more cosmic-themed junk (which people seemed to resonate with more in comparison).

Probably helped that the game was only fifty bucks.

must suck for poorfags that 50 is the new budget price lmao

WORLD WAR DOOM

All these years and there are shitbads still malding over the fact they they were filtered by Eternal.

More like dark ages of Doom

OOF

World War 1 trench warfare but DOOM

Doom weapons styled as WW1 guns

Unironically sounds kino

Honestly I'm still trying to wrap my head around their direction in the first place or why they went so off the rails.

2016 is UAC, Mars and Hell places, nothing too much to talk about being too off the mark, though there's all this weird codex lore about Night Sentinels and Argent D'Nur that the Doomguy fought with that people scoured over at first, and the devs being coy about being a full reboot or a sequel since they weren't sure if it would land

Eternal triples down on being a sequel while quoting the comic directly for the memes, suddenly gets super indulgent on the Night Sentinels like they're the coolest thing ever and Doomguy's bestest buds for the ones that didn't turn traitor, the background lore is super important to shit making sense like this is 343 Halo writing, you get some sci-fi base and city stuff but half the game is Hell and fantasy planets of Sentinel hold-outs

Dark Ages decides clearly people want more of Doomguy's Sentinel buddies, and while there's still bits of sci-fi, it's like almost entirely fantasy and eldritch stuff and abandons the franchise aesthetic entirely in favor of being up its own ass about the Sentinel homeworld, Cosmic Realm, and being basically Warhammer-lite, both original and 40K

It feels like the more they "find a vision" after 2016 was a fluke, the more it stops being Doom and starts being an original IP with Doom stapled on top.

They need to cut back on the gay ass capeshit angle. Both the story and the gameplay are suffering from it at this point.

Struck a nerve. Get a job and buy a new rig.

Anon Babble is now calling Cyberpunk 2077 an RPG

holy fuck, make up your mind

left 4 dead is a good game plus cheap and can run on laptops.

I'm not playing 120 dollarydoos for forced story and forced ray tracing nu-doom. I'm just not going to do it.

Doom: The Dark Sales

I just can't get my head around the system requirements or how much space it needs. All of the videos I've seen of it and there's nothing that tells me it's dramatically better graphically then Eternal or really even 2016.

80% of the rest of the game is just Painkiller, especially the entire final third.

This. Liked 2016 overall but it was arena fights out the ass for the majority.

Holy shit a sane opinion on this dogshit ADHD slop. Based.

For specs it's their new bullshit after megatextures, really. They want to make large environments that are more easily lit with a real-time global illumination, combined with tons of destructible shit everywhere that can make sure the map doesn't need pre-made chunks for lighting changes and so forth. The engine is functionally forcing the equivalent of The Finals' light rendering or UE5's Lumen GI at all times, for a game that frankly doesn't actually do any big shit to justify its necessity.

Grow up and do your homework timmy

halo 3

2007

8 hour campaign

unique experience that seamlessly transitions from 1st person shooting, 3rd person vehicle combat, and interesting set pieces

has legendary ost

has hidden collectibles and easter eggs

entire campaign can be played in coop in a lore friendly way

competitive multiplayer with 10 maps and 9 modes

forge mode allows map and mode modification

theater mode lets you re live the best moments

$60

nudoom 3

2025

8 hour campaign

unique 1st person parry combat? Kek

has hidden collectibles and easter eggs

$70+

This isn’t a rejection of the doom brand itself, this is a rejection of the value proposition at the price point. We have reached the point where the AAA model can no longer generate profitable products

doom redditernal killed all interest in this series

Here's the other side of the factor: there's no real replayability the same way Eternal or Halo 3 had. Eternal encouraged an arcade-like grind where different strats could have different outcomes, and enemies weren't so predictable as to always run at the player all the time but did do shit like flank, fly back for suppressive fire and other stuff. Its AI and their combat structure ironically brings to mind elements of F.E.A.R. combined with things like the Master Levels post-launch that added more challenge and content mostly for free. Every time you play Halo 3 on the other hand, between enemy AI, vehicles, and certain elements of fight dynamism, you basically have to know the game inside and out and be ready to trick kills for Youtube clout to be able to create a consistency between playthroughs. Shit gets out of hand real fast if you let the AI gain an inch to take a mile on Heroic/Legendary. All of this, plus multiplayer; Eternal's was dogshit but people have co-op mods now, while Halo 3 helped stem console online gaming as a de-facto audience for the industry forevermore.

The Dark Ages isn't just like a 10-14 hour campaign, it's a meandering one with large levels most people actually seem to fucking hate for how empty and pace-breaking they are, and the enemies are often more akin to walls and turrets than they are the dynamic enemies of Eternal. Things drag out so much that they kinda feel like a slog of a marathon, and there's not much cool variety since the game is so focused on bullet hell parries that it can't really afford the same batshit antics of even 2016 to a degree. Combine this with no multiplayer, no extra content, no neat unlockables and so forth, like no secret levels or Master Levels or ANYTHING of note, and it's not much wonder people kinda go "eh don't think I'd play this one again." Never mind secondhand impressions.

I think the worst part about it is how mediocre and forgettable it is. no matter what you think of eternal and 2016, both had extremely iconic scenes and sparked discussion and memes whether you liked them or not. so far I’ve seen fuck-all from dark ages
weren’t 2016 and eternal pretty really well optimised too?

liked the games or not*

todd always wins

He'll be replaced by her

He needs more retarded mounted weapons on different parts of his body

DOOM 4: Search for Slayerguy

light blue coloring

Welp, there's your nuCrash.

Call me....CRASH

reddit guitars start squealing

hourlong lore videos begin

everyone beat the game in 3 days, during a work week.

playercount threads are probably one of the worst vidya-related threads on Anon Babble. i cant possibly imagine being subhuman enough to enjoy these threads

Where do they get off charging $70 though?
Just corporate greed from some suit? Or was that the number needed to reasonably reach a profit?
Because if it’s the latter… grim

I am human enough to enjoy calling you a nigger faggot howeverthoughbeit

Because it's the AAA standard, therefore they'll uphold it. It's why Switch 2 games bumping up to $80 has people paranoid as fuck, because if this was released later this year or the next, it would be $80 for this exact same product.

These are bad numbers and it clearly flopped, but long way away from biggest flop of all time.

STAND
AND
FIGHT

Faggots don't even realize the Doom remake took off around when Eternal was releasing, you're all full of fucking shit you dumb nigger robots.

Saints Row bro

Eternal had melee too, you know.

Game flopped because it's woke as fuck

it's over, john

What's woke about it

back to hell.

Plus there are a bunch of other females talking over comms

b-but muh goypass!

youtu.be/PeM09Nmumkw

This YouTuber says it's because there is no real physical copy of the game because if you buy the physical version, it's going to be like EA's Command and Conquer ultimate collection edition where the box just has a bunch of numbers that you have to enter into the website to download the full game. Apparently, the Doom: The Dark Ages disc is only like 85 megabytes and is used to download the whole "always online" game. That is the reason why fans are boycotting the game.

so what's next for John Doom after Dark Ages?

Another reboot

it's woke because there's a woman

the gameplay loop is much worse than eternal. the shield is boring. there is no dash or vertical element like eternal. the only fun move is the shield dash.

this seems like a game made by a different team entirely. Eternal/2016 are much better.

WHO ASKED FOR RED LIGHT GREEN LIGHT PARRY SLOP

someone needs to stop that fucking orange, even euros are paying through the nose for digital shit now

Roguelike Deckbuilder.

but the old doom didnt have movement like eternal

it also wasnt parry slop pretending to be doom.

Doom fans are such faggots

play classic doom

have momentum, speed build-up, smooth release, and it feels particularly good with analog controls, it also means dodging projectiles can be a bit challenging if you're too cause up in running about

play any modern doom

you move at a set speed, from zero to a hundred in a quarter second, and ever walking with analog is pointless because the games are designed around split-moment directional shifts, and now you feel like a robot that traded sheer speed in for gyroscopic legs

why not make quake with no parry shit

That is the reason why fans are boycotting the game.

It's one of the many, MANY reasons.

because Quake doesn't have the intellectual property power of Doom for one, and because Machinegames would probably be the ones to do that

Sweet digits

zoomies cannot into analogue movement.
they need dashes and iframes

it'll drop with a $100 price tag and retarded spec requirements while being barely functional on consoles. if its anything different I'll be shocked.

it's not the movement that's the problem, it's the auto aim, they need to be able to play the game with a controller. have you seen how bad the auto aim is in fortnite? or halo infinite?

even fighting the arachnotrons. in eternal, you can take out their tail with a sticky from the shotgun or any explosive. in this game, you HAVE to spam shield cause it uses a chaingun.

this isn't fun. eternal was fun.

Don’t be discouraged by the shills who shame you on here, it’s totally possible and we can actually make it happen through the power of memes and anonymous friendship

You asked for infinite ammo and you got it. Live with the consequences.

weren’t 2016 and eternal pretty really well optimised too?

2016 and eternal ran very well
but they got cocky and thought they could sell a game that like 95% of steam users can't run at 1080p 60fps

well I can, but id might not.

Doom 2016 and eternal were made for 8th gen consoles, dark ages is made for 9th gen consoles. Optimizing games for turd worlders using 8 year old gpus has never been a concern for AAA games and doesn't affect sales considering games that run like shit even on good hardware still manage to be successful on pc.

I seriously wonder what the development of this game was like, because Eternal they had the anecdote where they, at least on a mechanical level, DID just make 2016-2. Tons of new weapons and powers for doomguy with no limitations.

And they absolutely hated playing it. Playing a push-forward combat shooter where there's no pushback and you just blow through everything mindlessly is not fun, and outside of the parry mechanic that feels like what this game is. The rest of the game just feels kneecapped. Were they confident at all in this game, or were they just throwing shit at the wall trying to "win back" loud casuals after Eternal scared a few off?

It's nice to dream that but there is no way it'll flop no matter how much it costs or how badly it runs. Monster Hunter Wilds is an ugly and overpriced game that was clearly shown to run as shitty as it looked and it still broke sales records for Capcom. People seem to just blindly buy shit if it's hyped up enough.

There's literally nothing left to do but essentially do a Halo Reach, where you see the Night Sentinels get stranded in Hell, and get picked off one-by-one, and then Doom Slayer's rampage in Hell until he's sealed away. There's not a whole lot to cover between '16 and Eternal. The Slayer got out of Hell, and got to the Fortress of Doom. With Eternal, he's destroyed "Heaven", killed God/Satan, sealed off Hell forever, and ensured that demons can never leave Hell again. I could be wrong, but I think they even solved the energy crisis following the destruction of the Argent facility on Mars.

I just want to see a DLC bridging The Dark Ages and '16, and I'm fine calling it a trilogy with that.

I get a lot of Gears of War/Halo vibes from Dark Ages, which I don't completely dislike. There hasn't been a game like that in a while.

It definitely looks better.

I feel like I've read this exact post year ago, wtf?

After 2016 and Eternal feeling nothing like the classic Doom games, I was really hoping Dark Ages might bring it back with the focus on projectiles and bigger maps. But after that initial reveal, I really didn't like much of what I saw sadly.

2016 was not. eternal is the most optimized game of all time.

They abandoned the megatexture meme thank god

That’s pretty decent considering everyone is playing for “free” on gamepass.
I love how everyone tries to claim gamepass = not a true game. Go fuck yourself niggers.

I'm interested in Doom, but I haven't bought it yet. I can't justify spending $70 on it. They might actually have a problem. Then again. GamePass so it's not like the numbers even matter. They got paid regardless.

What happened to "I'm too young to die"?

$10K AMD PC

runs at fucking 60 FPS

This.
I don't normally keep a gamepass subscription active because I don't use it a lot of months. My normie friend paid for a month for me because he wanted to play golf with friends of all things in a big group. So now I'm using my month to play both Doom and Expedition 33. Both games I probably would have waited a year or more to go on sale otherwise.

gamepass = not worth purchasing

Fixed it

Very nice digits, and yeah while it certainly doesn't seem to be doing that well it can't be as big a failure as something like Concord. I mean, at least it released and is a functional game.

Become the demons

There's 100% going to be a spin-off with her as main character

I hate TAG2 so much it's unreal, everything about it revolts me.

16 year old multiplayer Valve game that frequently goes on sale and runs on a potato

More active than a 4 day old full price AAA single player

Wow this is so surprising

Why does Eternal get such hate? They changed some things yes, But thats usally what you do or they should have just remade 2016 Doom. The setting where fucking great in Eternal. Sounds like purity fuck only say it was shit.

Is this surprising to you too? Why even cope this hard about this trainwreck?

Still waiting.

It won't flop but it may not make enough money considering some already estimate GTAVI to cost 1 or 2 billions.
Low chances tho.

Honestly I really want to play it but would be down to skip it if we got enough people on board to really fuck with Rockstar for some laughs.

new game comes out

Eternal is now somehow good

I don't know. I pre-ordered Eternal from Wal-Mart before it released. I got my game in the mail just as the pandemic was ramping up. Open up my game and see a cardboard disc with a code on it.
At that time I was still stuck with 3Mb DSL. It took over 2 weeks to download. Tried to return it before I redeemed it. Couldn't. I never did play it.

This is genuinely going to be the end of new singleplayer AAA games.
Even legacy series being risky without anything really wrong with them (that an exec can point to anyway) means that new singleplayer games just aren't worth it.

Its the boomer Zelda cycle

ENTER

Toom: Eternal Pride

Clair Obscure: expedition 33 wom!
50$ games won!

The funny thing is their homeworld burns and the Wraiths inside them got turned into fuel for Hell, so either she fucked off to some other dimension like the good Sentinels and just didn't show up for the finale in Eternal, or they introduced her and made her a living macguffin woman and then she'll fucking die. They pigeonholed the most two retarded options possible for this.

Changed to not offend some imaginary people.

only browns care about GTA so they probably wont be able to afford it