Why has this still not been topped?

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Why has this still not been topped?

Have you been topped?

2016 was better

I don't like NuDoom.

2016 was bette-ACCKK

Meathook is such a beautiful tool.

Jamie pull up the euro trucker doom video

time to reinstall doom 3

I like to shit on Doom 3 from time to time, but the industrial design is just so fun in it. I adore the spinny glowy things, it's so comfy.

Looks fucking awul. My DooM is not some fucking Unreal Tournament spazz style of game.

Same, shit is gay and there's a reason why everybody and their grandma made memes about this shit. On par with soulsborne fanboys who can't ever take a joke and have to make 50 response videos whenever someone doesn't like their game.

TAG 1 was such peak. UAC Atlantica might be my favorite level of the franchise. The Living End is still strong competition tho. Hard to top a good Romero map.

Based

It filtered so many slow boomers

TAG 1 was such peak.

It's like eating shit is a hobby to these people

wish they made more master levels or cbt
i eat that shit up

Based retard

TAG 1 pre-nerf on Ultra-Nightmare was the pinnacle of the Doom reboot trilogy. Not our problem you suck at the game.

I've played through Doom 3 two times and I was working on a third somewhat recently until I got bored. Cool game for the time but not all that interesting anymore.

Don't forget your ritalin, little zoomie.

Is there now a re-release that actually respects the balance of the original?

sickest player ive seen is some korean pulled cbt atlantica on ultra nightmare

Zoomers hated Eternal.

Slop

No

This doesn't help your arguement like you think it does.

None of you losers even beat the master levels.
youtu.be/SnCw9ESwnFk

Timesplitters 2 is more fun than 2016, Eternal, and Dark ages.

Just say you're a shitter, anon
No shame in being bad so long as you're aware of it

They don't call ir Zoom Eternal for nothing.

But this isn't Doom 2016.

you fags can't even get your manufactured outrage straight.

your grenade cooldown is ready

your melee cooldown is ready

your stun cooldown is ready

enemy is flashing blue!

enemies eyes are flashing green lol! better attack!

you dont like the eyes flashing green mechanic? too bad we'll force you to use it.

change your weapon its ineffective because... it just is ok?

2016 was an ok start for another Doom game

one (1) guy makes a video where they weapon swap constantly just because it looked cool and for fun

Dev team decides to base the next game around this completely to force it on everyone else.

What the fuck was their problem

>Dev team decides to base the next game around this completely to force it on everyone else.

I never get this argument. How is it forced? I play the game just fine without using it.

God you guys really are like fromsoft fans

iD and FromSoft fans are the highest IQ fanbases.

Old I'd fans maybe, modern I'd fans and fromsoft fans? Dumbest group of people I've ever met.

I'll take "things that never happened" for 200 Alex

i'd

thank you saar we've sen t$0.05 to your account saar

Yeah yeah trannies and buttplusgs.
This absolutely mogs shitoom in gameplay, level design and weapons

I kneel...

This is not a doom game

Either you didn't play the game or you have some kind of functional retardation. There is nothing in the game that forces you to constantly weapon swap to max your DPS. Even on nightmare.

why is using multiple weapons so hard for you?

See, to you this is awesome shit because it pulls out knowledge checks and reflexes constantly, it's basically a DMC3 of shooters by chaining the kills together while managing resources masterfully. I can GET why Eternal's fans love the shit out of it, and especially when it's at its craziest.

I just don't have the mental energy or reflexes to really want to deal with something like that at length as an entire game. I prefer 2016 simply because it isn't so crazy, doesn't feel like I'm mastering a fighting game's worth of twitchy reactions.

Did I say it was?

I don't need to play a game to have an opinion on it.

You poor bastard really think this trash impresses anyone, huh? Man you zoomers are so fucking easy, like dangling keys in front of a retarded toddler.

The greatest single-player FPS of the last decade.

At least you have the balls to admit you're a troll.

That's Titanfall 2.

OMG bro eternal is so peak look at how cool this looks!!!!!!!

My man.

Christ, what an eyesore.

Titanfall 2 is great but it's nowhere close to Eternal

Yep, because it's miles above it.

DE budget/normal enemy ai + uk buttplug support/boss design/secret bosses and encore levels = my dream zoomer shooter

cod slop but with wallrun and mech

Embarrassing

arena slop with cooldowns and insta-resources

Disgusting

Viper mogs every shitty boss fight in Eternal

I miss him bros ;_;

No, it wasn't people who say DOOM 2016 is better than DOOM Eternal are retarded.

there alot of shit going on here but you damn well know it isnt hard once you start to follow these strict weapon swapping rotations to cope for the lack of damage theses weapon have needing to abuse weapon swapping to start with.

eternal weapons

lack of damage

Genuine retard

Worshipping Eternal is a mental illness.

The Doom 3 plasma gun unironically has the best reload sound of all time.

enter room

doors shut

demons start spawning, max 4-5 of them in the room at the same time

walk around and shoot enough of them they stop, doors unlock, exit room

move through the most boring barren environments possible on mars and in hell

enter another room

doors shut

rinse and repeat for 12 levels

D16 will always be just a primitive proof of concept for a nuDoom game, no matter how much Anon Babble tries to gaslighting me into thinking otherwise.

Eternal is the same but with sick smokin style parkour instead

Eternalfags aren't Doom fans and they never were. They're the FPS equivalent of those fags who would keep making threads dedicated to muh CUUUHRAZY action games like DMC and Ninja Gaiden.

Played

DOOM 2016
DOOM ETERNAL
DOOM THE DARK AGES
DOOM 3

Back to back the past couple weeks

Explain why I have the most fond memories of 3

Doom is not supposed to be a movement shooter. 2016 is a true Doom game, Eternal is tranny zoomer slop.
Based, sounds exactly like a good Doom game.

so are they are all strong and quick swapping is actually unneeded to accomplish the same damage output if you weren't quick swapping?

You're a contrarian and going by the reddit spacing a faggot as well

Unique vibes of being a horror shooter that doesn't tip too far into horror compared to most other examples, and a really good atmosphere and aesthetic design while it's at it, low-res textures aside?

I’ve been permabanned from Reddit since the 2016 election

I'm a poltard loser

Much worse

So they weren't wrong and you're an electionfag

DOOM 3 just feels better as an overall experience even if the gameplay isn't as polished. You're just John Doomguy trapped in a space station full of spooky bloodthirsty demons and there is a sense of gravity to the situation because you aren't a comic book hero like in nudoom.

actual election tourist in the wild

Why would you admit this lmao

My only real issue with 2016 was excessive focus on arenas rather than having gameplay throughout.

DOOM 2016 was similar to DOOM Eternal in its style of gameplay, if you hate DOOM Eternal you should hate DOOM 2016

It was never good to begin with, everything tops it.

it's basically a DMC3 of shooters by chaining the kills together while managing resources masterfully

Except you expend resources in DMC however you want because it's a fun game and you're encouraged to freestyle while Eternal locks you into a rigid play pattern of cooldown management

Doom 2016 played much more like traditional doom, much less bing bing wahoo jumping shit and more focus on just shooting demons through levels.

Based anti-console gameplay. This is impossible on controller thats why Anon Babble casuals hate on this

Eternalschizo still using the same tired arguments and ad hominem

Ungodly levels of cope

more like more focus shooting 2 demons at a time in shitty arenas
nudoom sucks and you would never be able to navigate a level with a set amount of resources

It is. Objectively and inarguably. Eternal is a shit game and you are a retarded tranny.

This kills the Anon Babbleigger

Yeah, with boredom.

I first played Eternal on a Xbox one in Nightmare and loved it.

Eternal haters are shitter players trying to cope, they find it "tedious" and not fun

dmc3

encouraged to freestyle

Fucking retard

Nigger who cares if you jump around and shit that's totally a gay reason to hate DOOM Eternal they will never make DOOM like DOOM 1 and 2 again it will get dull if you don't innovate in the formula a little bit now that's not to say all changes are good.

Exactly, could be queake.

I'm playing Dark Ages now, and honestly in terms of graphics, I think Eternal looks better.

Doom 2016 played much more like traditional doom

Ah yes, remember stats upgrade system or weapon upgrades? How could you forget corridor arena level design with 5 enemies max per encounter in og doom games?
Fucking 2016fags are the worst

And I think DOOM 2016 is overrated.

Will I like Eternal if I thought 2016 was boring and uninteresting?

As the shooter most overrated by Mexican children?

how long until we can actually talk about the game without mindbroken tortanicfags shitting up the place

Perhaps
It is just improved 2016. If you did not like the core gameplay of executions and shooting don't bother then

all these geriatric boomers seething

Based.

Is it just me, or does DOOM fans always hate the new DOOM game that comes out? It's like stick to DOOM 1 or stop complaining unless you have something valid to complain about.

It's funny back when DOOM 2016 came out people were complaining that it was too modernized and wasn't like DOOM 1 and 2

These aren't Doom fans. Doom fans who didn't care for Eternal have years worth of wads to keep them busy. This is just regular contrarian screeching from faggots who don't even play video games.

For me, its appeal was limited. I can happily go back to Doom 1, 2, 64 and 2016 and replay them without any feelings of boredom or apathy. I've beaten Eternal twice now, I've become accustomed to its gameplay, but going back to it now feels like a pointless endeavour. I get no fun out of it any more despite being good at it. And I've tried a few times.

No. Eternal fans hate Doom and only like their embarrassing Fortnite clone. The Dark Ages is fucking great, a much better Doom game than Eternal and the best fps in years.

I love playing classic DOOM wads.

Case in point. I guarantee this faggot hasn't played Eternal or the classic Doom games.

Bait used to be believable

Doom

most important skill is keeping track of 50 gorillion cooldowns and constantly switching weapons to make sure you optimize your DPS rather than just dodging attacks, aiming, and shooting

4 equipment pieces on cooldown

>most important skill is keeping track of 50 gorillion cooldowns

Based brainlet

I love all DOOM games, but it's funny that you mentioned DOOM the Dark Ages because it's not doing so well right now not to say I don't like it which I do, but facts are facts. I don't know why it's failing, but it is?

In terms of actually shooting demons, i.e the bit that matters, it played more like doom.

I don't know why it's failing

$70 and it's on game pass

Honestly, I like both Ultrakill and classic Doom better than Eternal, but I do find it really funny how the game managed to filter so many people. It's the only modern, singleplayer western AAA game I can think of that actually has depth and takes skill to play, and that was enough to filter literal thousands or more. I've seen people claim that Eternal is bad because it's too "video gamey" or "arcadey", as if that's somehow a bad thing. It's genuinely bizarre to me, but it really goes to show that casuals completely dominate the industry these days. People too used to walking sims and other literal non-games.

Not even in the top 5.

the average Anon Babbleirgin is dogshit at video games

Whoa no way

Post your top 5

singleplayer western AAA game I can think of that actually has depth and takes skill to play

this sounds just like the average ninja gayden fanboy

In terms of actually shooting demons

95% of your time spent executing demons in melee

Ok retard.
2016fags are actually braindamaged

Makes sense, I don't know if game pass will be around for much longer if that will be the result of all games that are on the service. And the game industry needs to reverse course with this greedy pricing they are putting on games thanks to Rockstar and Nintendo.

Maybe in your playthrough, fagnuts lmao

It's probably because Eternal actually demands you be fast, efficient and think on the fly in ways most modern games simply don't anymore. What do you need to play Elden Ring? Some prep, a bit of consideration, and then the reflexes for dodges as you learn patterns. Meanwhile Eternal gives you a double dash, double jump, two separate grenade types and a flamethrower for enemy control and resource management, two separate insta-kill weapons that have their own ammo pools with differing conditions of how they work and what they're used for, and a whole entourage of weapons to constantly swap between while enemies chase you down to shove fireballs in your face and their claws up your ass nonstop.

It's not much wonder people got filtered. Give a normie Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge and they'd get filtered too. All reflex and split second reaction, strategies on the fly, enemy spam with shit flying everywhere, and if you stand still for a second, you die.

Based

he could've just done a meathook launch into destroyer blade and killed everything much cleaner. they made sure almost every continuous fire weapon in eternal has some kind of potential purpose.

dark ages really illuminates why eternal handles quickswapping the way it does. if you leave it in the game but don't balance the game around it, the game is too easy if you do it and it feels like you have a really interesting game just around the corner if you actually DID design the game around it. in dark ages quickswapping is gone and the game just feels so much less aggressive and dynamic. you effectively just walk up to things and engage in a parry duel, or click on them at mid range and parry what you have to. it's just not as interesting to play, the only people i see praising how the combat has changed are people whose definition of freedom is "the freedom to mindlessly use one single weapon for the entire game" and don't care about any other kind of freedom of playstyle

It's probably because Eternal actually demands you be fast, efficient and think on the fly in ways most modern games simply don't anymore. What do you need to play Elden Ring? Some prep, a bit of consideration, and then the reflexes for dodges as you learn patterns. Meanwhile Eternal gives you a double dash, double jump, two separate grenade types and a flamethrower for enemy control and resource management, two separate insta-kill weapons that have their own ammo pools with differing conditions of how they work and what they're used for, and a whole entourage of weapons to constantly swap between while enemies chase you down to shove fireballs in your face and their claws up your ass nonstop.

It's not much wonder people got filtered. Give a normie Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge and they'd get filtered too. All reflex and split second reaction, strategies on the fly, enemy spam with shit flying everywhere, and if you stand still for a second, you die.

underthemayo is the biggest Doom Eternal shill on youtube and he is terrible at every other game.
youtube.com/watch?v=Oe-I1i9bVmg&ab_channel=UnderTheMayo
he cried like a bitch when he played elden ring

Eh, the way the shield and melee attacks can play off of different guns makes for quite a bit of freedom. "Freedom" isn't why I like TDA combat more than Eternal's, though. Besides, even on higher difficulties you can SSG your way through Eternal too if you want to. I often did simply because the hook was so fun.

Now play DOOM 1 + 2 their expansions and DOOM 64 and rank what you like more?

Any game that tried to force you into a "fun zone" is automatically shit and any other game that just uses freedom as an excuse to make poor enemy engagement is a shit game

Microsoft told them to make Dark Ages easier, guaranteed.

I think that's a case where he's so invested into one particular game that he falls apart trying anything else. A mediocre fuck like me is nowhere near as good as someone like him at Eternal, but can play a broader range of games decently well instead.

2016 defenders have to be among the dumbest people on the board.

replay them without any feelings of boredom or apathy

2016

This

Yep. Sorry to piss in your rice pudding, but that's how it is.

Seems like it
Enemy aggression is neutered in tda compared to eternal
Even at max slider.

sure pal
he struggled badly with code veronica
this guy is only good at doom eternal and nothing else

I dunno. I was funposting, but most of the well-regarded retro shooters are games I enjoyed more than 2016 or Eternal. Dusk, Amid Evil, Hrot, Cultic, Turbo Overkill.

I still need to finish Hrot, though, and obviously Cultic has a ways to go.

The undisputed goat N64 and 3D platformer title ever made.

Amid Evil, Hrot, Cultic, Turbo

Holy shit, an actual shit eater

I beat eternal on nightmare and I'd say the only thing in the mainline campaign that approached a tough souls boss was literally just the icon of sin fight. the rest of the game wasn't easy but I never felt like I was in a hole a mile away from completing a section like I do when I get smacked with a fuck off pattern from a spinning top in souls

don't you get tired of sleepwalking through arenas that put up no challenge?

I like good games, sorry.

The mechanics are always so fucking impressive in what you can do. Weapon combos actually reward you for pulling them off when Shiternal is just a long input process of constant weapon swapping. I would rather make a spreadsheet in Excel than play that trash again.

Dusk, Amid Evil, Hrot, Cultic, Turbo Overkill.

damn thats a lot of indy trash

i love all the streamers saying they prefer TDA over eternal because it's easier lol

I tend to prefer lower budget games that are good to expensive games that aren't as good.

How can it be topped? It does what it does perfectly. All you could do is add gimmicks on top of it.

Yeah, that's why I stopped playing Eternal and went back to games that I'm actually entertained by.

Doom Eternal was actively harmed by not having an arcade mode. Doing this shit for a high score would be great.

budget games that are good

they are not good
i remember how duskworld died
the entire dusk fanbase is so scared of multiplayer games

It's as if sniffing one's own farts was the embodiment of a human being

I don't know I just think it's really bizarre to have a holier than though attitude and go to bat for 2016, it's like are you a bit dense or something.

The eternal fanboy once more proclaims how proud he is for having the worst taste in anything ever

This has to be a humiliation ritual but then again most eternal shills suck at these games

holier than thou

What the fuck are you actually smoking? Why do Eternal enjoyers think like this?

Eternal perfectly achieved its goals, and the DLCs and later master levels proved they can't add anything new and compelling to the game. You just got gimmick enemies.

I don't know I just think it's really bizarre to have a holier than though attitude and go to bat for 2016

The pot is now calling the kettle black

what the hell?
i dont like doom eternal at all

This shit really is a humiliation ritual for you guys

hrot

Amid evil

cultic

good games

Why are you lying, shit eater

that 1% life glory kill

alright that was cool

I am currently playing Doom Eternal and the movement feels a lot worse than expected.
I keep getting stuck on terrain and sometimes I just suddenly come to a halt after dashing despite not letting go of W.
I died many times because of it.
The game in general seems quite buggy.
I enjoyed Doom 3 a lot more desu.

All the seething responds to this really shows why The dark ages got botched so hard. These shitters couldn't handle eternal and turned their complaints into a worse game LOL

Eternal fans hate Doom

I do?

Dark Ages just topped it in shitness.

This.
It's obvious that id was told explicitly to dumb down Dark Ages after complaints about Eternal being too hard and complex.

reread the reply chain.

Going straight into Dark Ages from the Eternal Ancient Gods DLCs, it feels so slow by comparison. It feels like going from Devil May Cry 5 to the first Onimusha or something.

Eternal being too hard and complex.

so hard and complex that a guy like underthemayo can finish the game in ultranightmare

I remember talking about this like four years ago and people were telling me I wasn't moving enough. As if that's the problem.

All I want is a DLC that covers the betrayal of the Night Sentinels up to the Slayer getting sealed in the sarcophagus, and I'd be fine with them retiring this particular timeline of Doom. Move on to the Quake or Quake 2 setting or something. I'm partial to Quake 2 because it's the first PC game I ever had.

Every stereotype you have of zoomers applies to Mexican zoomers. They play roblox, fortnite, and cod mobile.

No that would be eternalfags who think their mariodoom is somehow representative of doom

You mean the guy that can only pla

All I see is a faggot getting uppity because one anon said he prefers replaying 1, 2, 64 and 2016 over Eternal.