She cute. I want to hug her

Nnngh, imagine the noises she makes in bed

Why would a person who spends all her time at home, basically in her room, need to wear an eyepatch?

You are a fetishist and incel that goes for her simply because her being a criple gives you the feeling you could score her, in fact you believe she should be happy that at least you want to fuck her when nobody else will
It's why her life will be miserable because no other kind of man would want her

Technically true
She should be wearing an eyepatch until later in the story the mc or some other character(s) gets her comfortable with not wearing it
while irl you can't really judge a serious burn victim for how they cope with their disfigurement, a game is not irl

She can't wallow in self pity if she dies anything about it, pls understand.

She would be in extreme pain.

Agreed

what is an eyepatch

It prevents infection

implying I wouldn't use lube like a gentleman

Anon... wearing an eyepatch over an empty eye socket is how you get infections. A glass eye would be a good idea. I'm sure she'd eventually get one.

She looks like the pepperoni pizza I just consumed.

Glass eyes look weird most of the time..
She could get a glass eye + eyepatch combo, because eyepatches are pretty cool

If they ever make a direct sequel it should be about Alicia falling in love with a Writer boy.

Time for her to fatten up a bit.

Eyepatches are cool, especially if there's a gnarly scar running underneath that hints at a story of some kickass battle or high adventure. To say otherwise is cope.

Every heavy breath and every moan would be agonizing for her. I don't think lube is going to help.

Autistic rasping

Literally this.
I imagine OP and those that agree with him look like the hobgoblin from the 300 movie

it's another posts about a game by someone who has only seen pictures of the game and doesn't play games.

She tastes like bacon

omg THIS so much this (TSMT)
How dare you mysogynistic incels imagine sex with horrible disgusting disabled unempowered women in fantasy.
This is so problematic.

Real chads go for the prime breeding condition Maelle.

That's her father you sick fuck.

desu if my throat was fucked up, I'd still wanna cum my brains out, even if it hurts

I can cure her.

You don't even respect yourselves do the world a favour please

Maelle is basically the single 100% dead character no matter what.

Alicia is super fertile, what are you talking about?

Yes. He's getting her ready for a man to love. All of her. More of her.

tfw no delicious bacon flavoured kisses every morning.

you could fit like 6 mL of semen in her eyesocket

It's more like her frailty is endearing.
It enhances my desire to protect her from further harm, and thus makes her more attractive

1900's Paris

I just know the perfect remedy.

I love Maelle.
I despise Alicia.

blatant spoiler in OP

is this how you get people to avoid your game? interesting approach from the tranny-melty brigaders

Maelle is a good girl.
Alicia is a good girl.
It's Maelicia you should hate

i want to put my tongue in her empty eye socket

Definitely the cure for her canvas addiction

Maelle is basically her idealized self insert.
The misfit who is brave, overcomes hardships, everyone loves, beats her villain and decides to move on.
Maelle is her Mary sue.

Agreed, that's what I meant.
Outside Alicia is cool. True Maelle is love. Awakened Alicia/Maelle is a despicable little twat.

Same but the tip of my dick instead of my tongue.

Awakened Alicia/Maelle is a despicable little twat

What did she do wrong though?

nothing

What? You don't like a junkie who's rather torture her brother than try and accept the fact he's dead?

how would an eyejob feel like?

Everything.

Everything Aline did, she does it too.
So she's just a cunt with a god complex and unable to cope.

I don't want to sound like a bitch, but that would genuinely be hell. I get pissed off when I'm so sick that I feel uncomfortable and can't go to sleep correctly anymore. For example, the time when I had Tinnitus and I couldn't sleep correctly because it was going like FEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Or when I had the extremely deadly flu (corona lol) and I was feeling unwell and weak for like a few days. Basically I couldn't enjoy shit anymore and just slept till I was healthy.
Imagine that, but it's like 10 times worse and it's NEVER going away. That actually sounds like hell. Nigger, I would never want that, just plug me into the matrix

It's crazy how being a redhead and having clear colored eyes can carry you so hard, I bet she would have shit loads of suitors still

She became a hardcore simp for crooked Verso

You sound like a baby gay faggot.
Or maybe are you a woman (biological)?

Yeah but at least he's suffering.

She was always that, it's hilarious how little shits she gives for the people of Lumiere in comparison, because she knows what they are

At least the teenage pussy must be good

In that era she would get a glass eye at the least.

Lol, I'm just never sick. Faggots all around me cough and are sick like every other month, but these 2 times, where I actually was sick, were disgusting, how can you enjoy shit when something is obviously wrong, everything being downgraded because you experience it through a sick body that tells you to lie down.

do you guys prefer maelle with red or white hair?

White hair and well done.

make her have ginger shit across the body

or make her look like a 90 year old

neither

Red hair with bottom outfit.

Everything Aline did, she does it too.

it was real in my mind

Nigger

The white hair looks wrong on her

Painted Alicia was the cutest, shame she was as suicidal as her brother.

What does she do in her ending that Aline didn't? She even has the

create yourself a fake family for your cope

Part down.

Maybe if her brother didn't abandon her and kill her father she wouldn't feel that way.

Her entire family was gone though and was created just to suffer. She at least has a valid excuse unlike Verso.

Red hair, messy bun, real Maelle outfit.

>create yourself a fake family for your cope

All of these characters already existed, she just resurrected them

You guys bitched because society pressured you to put on a mask for a couple months, and you're out here trying to tell cripples they "need" to wear an eye patch just so Karen doesn't accidentally observe something unpleasant. Now THAT'S funny.

When did Renoir (Curator) escape the Monolith? He says he's been locked up for 67 years. What are the odds that he got enough Gommage chroma to escape just on the 33rd expedition?

WAIT A MINUTE
THE RED AND WHITE TREE???
WHAT DO THE COLORS MEAN

He gets out when the Paintress is defeated.

(I meant Expedition 33, not 33rd.)

when simon barged into his prison to kill him, he left the door open by mistake

why does she do this pursed lip, downward looking smug ass look when she gets the white hair
she does it constantly

I might be insane but it seemed to me like the flower colors when people got popped was dependent on who painted them

I like the white hair. It's like a chuuni true form and I like what it represents for her character

But he hangs around in the camp and he gommages painted Renoir, all of which happens before she's defeated. Didn't look like he was trapped.

possibly. there is for sure red and white, and then white and gold i think?
unsure if there is more than that

because her oniichan only has her now

Clea said she sent in shit to help him out.
So maybe Simon opened the door

Simon got mind controlled by Renoir, so he probably freed him

Because she becomes a little hateful bitch when she awakens.

You mean remade them, right?
Including the brother who REPEATEDLY told her he wanted to die.
Again, how is she different from Aline? Mind you, she was also protecting lumiere for the exact same reasons Alicia does, pure cope and delusion.

if you uninstall the game you basically gommaged the two worlds

I think Red was Aline, white was Verso and yellow Maelle.

wearing an eyepatch over an empty eye socket is how you get infections

Why?

if i install nude mods for maelle that means im painting over her with semen like clea?

She's channeling Danny from Game of Thrones

real maelle outfit, painted me hair

give a withdrawn bookworm god powers

You tell me.

*wheeeeeeze*
*a...a....a......*

I think it's based on what they are. Verso has white flowers and the Lumiere people have red flowers but they were both created by Aline. The difference is Verso is immortal and is Aline's finest creation

Maelle and the Paintress have yellow flowers, although Renoir has red

Lumiere people have red flowers but they were both created by Aline

Weren't the Lumiere people created by Verso, technically

Both are great

This game is so good bros

am i just a simpleton or would the story have been way better if they ditched this stupid family drama twist and just kept the initial premise of the paintress and played it straight from there

Any person picking Verso ending has never seen or experienced how much a person with burns and scars like Alicia suffers every day. If you were a perfectly healthy person trying to patronize them how real life is better than a peaceful "dream" (not even a dream, a life with ACTUAL SENTIENT BEINGS), they'd fucking spit in your face if they could.

It's a midwit psychopathic choice.

No the people of Lumiere were created by Aline. Verso only created the Gestrals, Grandis, Esquie, and whatever other weird creatures were there

This is why the Gestrals and Esquie aren't effected by the Gommage. Renoir is only erasing things that Aline created

u get that plot until Berso reads the letter
rest is fan service

she could just paint new worlds she could hang out in, without tormenting anyone

Why do you want to play the same slop over and over and over again.

This makes sense to me
Like how fat people are trying to push the narrative that "fat" is a perfectly fine word, because in their mind, there's nothing wrong with shattered knees, heart disease, hypertension, oxygen tanks or type 2 diabetes before retirement age, and being unable to properly and completely wash yourself

But then it wouldn't be generating all this shitposting about the ending, which is what the director and lead writer wanted.
This greatly inflated engagement, which in turn meant more opportunities to expand the universe.
Expect to see light novels and comics about previous expeditions in the future.

So basically Verso's argument is:

lmao go paint another world, i want to kill myself and everyone here with it XDDDD

What a cunt.
Literally everything he does is the most evil act in the game.

it would have been fine if it ended there but you would absolutely not see the game still being discussed right now if it had

She can still paint other fucking canvases dumbass, just spend like half a day in one max. Get out to take a shit and a shower. No one is telling her to stop painting.

After a decade+ of having my Expectations Subverted i would love a story that doesnt try to bait me into pages and pages of online discussion about contrived moral choices

i'm gonna go play dragon quest, see ya nerds

you sound like a person that should kill themself

At that point, everyone is already dead, except for Lune and Sciel

The most evil act in the in-game universe comes in the form of Painters creating sentient life by the millions without any regard to the repercussions.
I cant wait for Writerchads to drown all Painters in paint thinner.

You think the Gestrals and the giant guys don't count?

they didn't want to make her look cool, it's a pretty obvious design choice

You need to wear an eyepatch to keep pollutants and infections out of your open wound, which is what a missing eye always technically is.

They are just dogs, not even kidding

Gustave - Robert Pattinson
Verso - Adam Driver
Maelle - Emma Myers
Renoir - Pierce Brosnan
Lune - Anna Sawai
Sciel - Alicia Vikander

Alicia Vikander

Not Anya Chalotra

Cmon now.

I WILL NOT PLAY THE PI-ACKKK

Would yiu guys really watch the movie after playing the game?

spend a ton of time shuffling through archives to find out where the first expedition landed

finally find it

it's a fucking lvl 70 area with nevrons that one tap everybody

Thanks Lune!

you can't even go for girls on your league without being labeled an incel

painted alicia

We need Golgra rule34

When Expedition 00 landed on the continent there weren't any Nevrons.

shes channeling her inner shart

It's all her own doing though.

Cloth gets damp, breeds bacteria which enter in contact with an open area of your body where the eye should be covering

Where do I farm grandiose chroma?

Later, too-cool-for-school-kun

Bros, I romanced Sciel and she cucked me...I wish I could romance Alicia instead...

*pop*

The game is pretty cinematographic on its own. Is there really a point in the movie?

y does my gum suddenly taste like dead skin

STANDING ON THE EDGE OF THE CRATER
LIKE THE PROPHETS ONCE SAID

which onii-chan does Alicia prefer, Gustave or Verso?

She's a big girl.

One gets his waifu and to live happily and unknowingly

One gets to put the piano in the bag for the rest of his life while living a nightmare

refuses to live in Lumiere without Verso

I wonder

That's just typical yandere behavior

Punished "Venom" Guillaume after the Japs review bomb his JRPG tribute game

Only Clea can control other peoples paintings.

This is le woke okay!!!!!!

Do i fit in guys??

Why not both?

So I understand that nobody knows the answer to that.

Verso wants to die
Renoir wants to save her life, Aline's life, and let real Verso's soul finally rest.
Both are trying to accomplish the same thing. If Alicia and Aline could prove to him that they can actually take breaks from the painting and live in moderation with it then he probably wouldn't destroy it, but they can't so he will. He even knows she was lying but decided to give her a chance.

Literally all she has to do is come out, spend some time with him, and go back in. That's the golden path.

Someone needs to hurry up and make a mod so I can swap Maelles face with bacon Alicia

that's only something Alicia says
Simon on the other hand HIMSELF says Renoir is fucking his mind up by the day

But in a canvas you can paint endless amounts of heroin.

tfw no burnt victim mute gf who will give you all her love for accepting her

I would protect Alicia with my life against Wr*ter fucking shits

she was painted by Aline and she blames her for death of Verso

Maelle's ending won't last for long.

The only reason Alicia beat Renoir is because he was completely exhausted and she got saved by Aline.
Now Renoir is out and he knows Alicia is not coming out. He's gonna take a bath, have dinner and have a good night's sleep. Then he's gonna come back in the painting, boot crazy Alicia out, erase everything and hopefully give his bratty daughter the good spanking she deserves.

If they ever make a direct sequel it should be about Alicia falling in love with a Writer boy.

Imagine if writers can manipulate reality outside their works and they'll offer Alicia to heal her wounds in exchange for something

Sorry, I'm just not going to play a game with niggas in Paris.

When they introduced the writers shit i immediately thought it was a reference to alan wake kek

My brother in Christ, half the population of Paris is niggers.

covid conspiracy theorists still at it

Get off my website, you Maskochists.

I've been into worse.

are Alan Wake games good?
I got AW Remaster from PS+ and AWII was supposed to be 10/10 GOTYAY, but I'm not sold
are they like schizo RE4 or more 2deep4u walking sims?
I liked the Control level but I'd prefer more RE style game

CONTINUER À T'AIMER
CONTINUER DE PEINDRE

Alicia will never ask you to give her the chocolate

No, gameplay wise they are not good at all. But narratively, absolutely.

The games are Alan Wake 1>Control>AW2>Control 2, you could technically skip control but that would be a retarded idea because you'd be lost.
They aren't 2deep4u walking sims they're both action horror games with 1 being heavier on the action while 2 is more like RE4Make, control is a hard action game set in not-SCP and I love it dearly even if it's jank.

Tbf all Alicia says is that only Clea can paint over other people's creations. It doesn't seem like Renoir painted over Simon, all he says is that is is "influencing his mind"

What can painters even do if Writers are Alan Wake tier reality benders?

Maelle is for Gustave obviously.
Alicia is a brocon and loves Verso. She stops really giving a shit about Gustave after her memory is restored.

You're not supposed to wear an eyepatch long term, you either wear it for protection while an injured eye heals, or the eye is fucked and gets removed and you need a glass eye implant to support your eye socket. If you wear it on top of a glass eye for aesthetics to larp as Big Boss, or are Dan Crenshaw and want to show you're a tough soldier, that's gay as hell.
Do you know what the center of eye glassmaking in the world was in the 1800s? Paris. Get that girl a fucking implant

Gameplay wise Control is way better than both AW games but in terms of story and atmosphere Alan Wakes are still pretty good (even though there's a shit ton of in-game notes that you have to read if you want fully understand their plots)

maelle wins

They made Control 2??????

Control 2 was being made but their publisher fucked off and so did the people backing the game so remedy is back to teetering on the verge of death.
I hope they find someone else to fund it soon.

What can painters even do if Writers are Alan Wake tier reality benders?

Nothing unless they'll team up with musicians/sculptors/directors against them

I watched the Last of Us season 1, despite knowing what happens. It could be interesting.

I'm sure a nice writer boy will see her inner beauty and give her the life she deserves.

I had heard it was in development but based on your post I thought it released and I missed it somehow.
That's tragic, I loved Control

Painters seem to defy physics as well. Renoir's Atelier is full of floating canvases in the scene where you play as Alicia.

Then they all team up against the Prompters

It will be the fabled Gustave third ending where he revives, tells Alicia to fuck off, and pleads for Verso to stop being a faggot.

short red hair

if theres musicians theyd have to affect the real world, the sound waves just shoot trough the air theres no canvas or paper to contain it like with the others

She stops really giving a shit about Gustave after her memory is restored.

Lmao, no. Nothing in the game hints that she prioritizes the memories of either side.

Ah, that makes sense. Would bandages that are changed regularly work?

Maelle died in act 2. The girl you have in act 3 is Alicia with a painted face and throat like Clea told her to do before she entered the painting.

She looks like she's weak to kisses.

>One gets his waifu and to live happily and unknowingly

Alicia brought Sophie back just so she is forced to watch her fuck Gustave

would?

Alicia is a brocon

Proof?

As I said before I've been into worse.

I regularly see a woman who had bad childhood burns and didn't get skin grafts early, it's not pretty.

You retarded fucking indians should be hunted down in the street, I fucking wish you and pakistan annihilated each other and left the fucking internet forever.

I'm serious.

maelle has the expression of an adventurous street urchin whose eager to help her companions

alicia is a haughty noble who looks down on everyone for not being the ideal version she has of them in her head

The real tragedy of this game is the fact innocent and sweet Maelle got replaced by this stuck up monster

For you

Clea is implied to be closer and have spent more time with Verso and in his painting than Alicia

Clea has her shit together and manages to accept and move on from her beloved brother's death

Meanwhile Alicia devolves into a yandere brocon forcing her fake brother to play the piano forever

What's wrong with Alicia

her canvas, her choice

Golgra > Clea > Luna > Sciel > Maelle
You cannot parry this.

we need to be better painted men

>Clea has her shit together and manages to accept and move on from her beloved brother's death

isn't it explicitly stated that this isn't the case? Clea is drowning herself in her own war against the Writers as a form of coping.

It's why her life will be miserable because no other kind of man would want her

She is the daughter of a prominent high society family with the power to paint worlds.
At the very least she is going to be able to settle for an upper class chad that wants in on the Painters resources, even better if they actually do end up falling for each other over time.
Like I don't get why everyone compares her life to living on disability in a low income apartment beyond that that's their lives and they cannot comprehend the higher level of care and experiences that comes from wealth. Much less for the literal magic powers.

Only a moron like Renoir would paint going after the people who fucked up your family in a bad light.

Clea is drowning herself in her own war against the Writers as a form of coping

What would a war against the writers look like? Does Clea just go over to their houses and throws buckets of paint on them or something?

I'd fuck almost any non fat woman
butterfaces are my favorite lays, toastface wouldn't be anything worse

Does Clea just go over to their houses and throws buckets of paint on them or something?

Sends paintings flying toward them and uses painter powers to trap their psyche in the portraits, if I had to guess.

she's the one responsible for his death

I don't think it's that easy to kick out a Painter out of the Canvas. Since everyone else left, she's in control of all the Chroma in the Canvas now so regardless of her skills as a Painter she holds all the cards. If anything, history will repeat itself and its gonna be another episode of slowly wrestling control out of her hands.

The painters can use their powers to some extent in the real world.
See the dialogue at the end of act two where Alicia thinks that the manors fire damage and be repaired via painting.

The painters can use their powers to some extent in the real world.

I already knew this even without that because we see some flying paintings in Renoirs room.

tfw we'll never get to see Clea fight jojo battles against the writers

Remind me who was acknowledged as best/strongest painter in the family? Renoir?

Fair, I was mostly responding to how Clear can fight the Writers.
If she can paint Irl with even a fraction of what we see her do in the canvas then she is a walking font of destruction.

They don't establish a full family heirarchy but we know that of the kids Clea is the strongest and of the grown ups Aline is stronger than Renoir.

renoir's drafts

Lets be real, there's no way you'd get burns like that and still have your nose intact. Devs just wanted her to remain hot.

Aline is the strongest and head of the painter council, and by the time we meet her in game she had exhausted herself.
Clea is the strongest of the kids but Renoir see a lot of potential in Alicia.

who else said or thought “Dark Souls” during this cutscene?

Basically everyone who played Dark Souls 3 and was the phase 2 transition was calling him Pontif.

Between this and Simon it's obvious that Dark Souls is Cleas favorite game.

How did people interpret the Maelle ending?

I assumed new-Verso was starting to remember his old life, and his desire to die, and I took the jump-scare to be Maelle literally repainting new-Verso's mind to wipe away these thoughts that keep creeping in. You can see this mentioned in Simon's journal, where real Clea transformed his actual mind and made him into a weapon. Then real Renoir did the same thing when Simon descended the monolith to try and kill him (turning him into something like a vegetable until we find him).

But I can understand the interpretation of new-Verso always remembering everything, and being reluctant to play the piano, and the jump-scare was Maelle threatening him to start playing.

If it's the latter, then it's even darker, as presumably everyone knows they're being threatened and just try to be nice all the time. It reminds me a bit of that Twilight Zone episode with the little boy who everyone tries to be nice around because he's a petty God.

Alicia

Wants to write

Verso

Want to compose music

Clea

Likes to sculpt

Imagine being a painter cuck

It reminds me a bit of that Twilight Zone episode with the little boy who everyone tries to be nice around because he's a petty God.

Reminds me of the Justice League episode where they meet the not-JSA and it's all just the projections of a kid wanting the heroes to be around doing hero things.

I took it about he same way as you.
However be careful because bringing up mind control /here/ will induce a shitstorm on whether she is mindcontrolling everyone or not.

Verso accepted he's in painted prison as long as Alicia/Maelle is in control so he might as well do what he loves the most while Maelle is going crazy, same as Aline.

I think it was made intentionally vague, but I got a very hollow feeling from the whole thing, especially when Gustave showed up. The smiles seemed off and Lune/Sciel's expressions looking at Verso hesitating to play seemed uncanny.

Did anyone else notice that none of the kids really seemed all that interested in painting? Verso was into music, Clea seemed to be into sculpting, Alicia was a writer.

I like how they didn't shy away from the empty socket. I think most designers would put in a glass eye or eye patch or some shit, but the French are just like 'nah, gaping empty socket'.

It still irritates me how one eye is completely gone while the other one is perfectly fine, especially with the right side of her face being a bit less damaged than the left side. But both sides were burned up to her forehead.

Shouldn't her eyebrows and eyelashes be completely gone as well, at least on missing eye?

This shit just doesn't add up.

Clea seemed to be into sculpting

Anon, you clearly have a painting on an easel being worked on as well as paintings of Nevrons.
Clea seemed to be pursuing both painting and sculpting to express art.

Its a fun character trait that shows the disfunction in the family.

clea has portraits of big guy nevrons with swords

Clea definitely speedruns Elden Ring on a dancepad with her feet

You know Clea would have the best wargame miniatures, Extra details made with greenstuff and perfect paintjobs.
A real Anon Babble queen.

I dont understand how her throat is completely burnt either if her face isnt nearly melted off, shes just scarred, so it had to be surface level burns right?

It's the hot gas that fucked up her lungs, I guess?

Reminds me of the Justice League episode where they meet the not-JSA and it's all just the projections of a kid wanting the heroes to be around doing hero things.

Honestly pretty sad episode, always feel sorry for that kid. Remind me of another kid in similar but way more fucked up situation....

Yes, but Maelle fans are as delusional as Alicia, and think she's still alive.

There's a harp right in the middle of her room too, suggesting an interest in music as well.
If we're to assume the desk is for writing, Clea is actually doing all the art forms instead of sticking with just one. It's probably a nod to the story talking about how talented Clea is.

She still has her memories but yeah shes basically 2 people in one now, so imo they both died

My wife Clea is so talented...

You are fucking brain damaged, go outside and interact with actual human beings

Built for Big Writer Cock

Chances are that child Alicia acted like a cunt as well, so the other children outside the family relentlessly bullied her until she became a withdrawn bookworm. She's described as a ghost even before she was turned into al literal firecrotch.

I can't get over how she looks like a female chud, it's so fucking hot.
Need sex while she whispers about total writer death and mass fumigation of canvas parasites.

The guild has fallen

Millions must paint

Is Clea a virgin?

The entire battlefield before was Dark Souls as fuck. The way weapons work is also pretty much identical to Dark Souls (scaling, stones to upgrade to higher levels)

Her real body is.

Probably. I'd like to think that the reason she painted over Painted Clea is because she's in a happy relationship with an NPC named Simon while irl Clea has no one.

Clea's bush and pits

bros...

Clea's brush and paints

bros...

I'd like to think that the reason she painted over Painted Clea is because she's in a happy relationship with an NPC named Simon while irl Clea has no one.

Either she's a spinster or a dyke, given her spiteful reaction.

Either she's a spinster or a dyke, given her spiteful reaction.

Eh, for me its more like none of that talent helped with her socially so she's mad that her mom painted her to be this fantasy thing that has the whole package when the real thing is far from it.

Covering your nose with your hand?

Monoco...

She has burn scars all over her nose.

Why does he take the enemy legs to use their powers? Could he do it with any other part?

Monoco is based on Verso's dog, and from a meta perspective, on the dog in the gave dev studio taking peoples' shoes.
Monoco is also, more simply, just based.

Dogs are trannies who only attack limbs

Quit being a bitch, dude. If you wouldn't bust a fat nut on her face, you're on some hoe shit. You don't need an eye patch, you twink. Plug that shit with the tip of your penis and get up. Damn.

Survivor's guilt, also guilt over having caused the events leading to the fire, also being physically scarred to the point where even breathing is painful. And the rest of her surviving family, save her father, treat her with contempt, disgust, or quite disdain. Alicia wound up as dysfunctional as she is because she learned from the fucking best.