Lmaooo

lmaooo

People were posting that before release. It's been out for almost a week now and you don't have a single new clip to post? Come on now.

Doom was never good

This is actually fun when you play it

Is there ANY way to turn off the parry hitstop, or at the very least reduce its effect? It's absolutely driving me CUHRAZZYYYYYY

is this nikke that famous gooner game?

my favorite part is the turret segments that are visually identical to fake phone game ads

It's like they took the gameplay of dodging projectiles in the first game and chose to make everything about it worse.

Can you even call this doom?
At least 3 had cool encounters with all those claustrophobic as fuck rooms

this isn't doom is it?

Personal, I hate “green” colored energy. I remember dropping dragon age inquisition way back because it was bright green magic energy bs.

Stop playing like a pussy.

No new webms? Surely Anon Babble of all place plays video games right?

I rely on the Steam overlay for recording but played on Gaymespass

What is it with faggots acting like Doom 3 was any good lately? It was absolute trash both when it released and in retrospect.

Doom 3 is good
Max Payne 2 is good
The prequels are good
It's just that Millenials all have shit taste

I bet you haven't even played Doom 3

is this a runescape boss??

LOOOOOOOL he mad that his game doesn't produce good gameplay clips

why is your game speed so low?

its super slow on 'normal' difficulty
even nightmare is meh, gotta play it on 120%

shield throw that bounces back into his hand

for fuck's sake, they aren't beating the capeshit allegations

KEEEEEEEEEK no new cope? Sure a shitposter of all subhumans have copes right?

yeah actually, there's a mod to remove the slow-mo shit entirely

i've been playing it at 150% and refuse to turn it down

Hiding behind walls for hours instead of sidestepping the fireball and killing the imp

Playing like a passive, slow, retard

This is your fault. DOOM is meant to be played fast.

timing of each parry is completely different

solos ficti- ACK!

Post the one in the mech suit

This game really shut Doomfags up when it came to vs battles.

There's a mod for it now and id will be adding a slider in a future patch

gun finally starts firing at 30 seconds mark

the main villain has the protagonist at their complete mercy and they throw them off a cliff instead of just executing them

Was he saves by the hentai woman?

Yes, play a good game.

Parryslop

x.com/Mr_Rebs_/status/1925236548838011327
It's a success, get over it

3 million players

may we see the sales numbers?

press AWESOME button when enemy flashes green!

hit red enemies with shield just like captain america!

*soundtrack chugs impotently in background*

be sure to explore the levels and go to the pre-marked locations on the map to POWER UP and become a true legendary BADASS

Cool game, marty

Players

Everytime

What happens if you stay between two red sphere rows ?

I'm out of touch so when I heard everyone talking about being able to parry any attack in the new Doom game, I thought it was something like Mount & Blade, and didn't see what the big deal was.
But it's actually color-coded "press now" gameplay? lol

It's just like 1993!

Why not just make all projectiles parryable, remove the retarded slow down time thing and increase the projectile speed

Was this game made for retards whose only entertaintment was coloring books?

The actual story is a real marvel-tier shit, I wouldn't mind if doomguy could just walk around and smack demons without that shit.

play doom 2016

fireballs fly at you at breakneck speeds you can feel the flames on your face

where can I experience this in dark ages?

Why demons wouldn't just stop using green projectiles and swords against doomslayer? They are clearly doesn't work on him.

they're colorblind you ableist fuck

Because ESL retards such as yourself wouldn't know what to do otherwise

Doom (og) can be either fast and reactive, or slow and atmospheric. That's the beauty of it.

cope

But it's actually color-coded "press now" gameplay? lol

yup, it really is

Using nothing but orange projectiles in this economy?
What are we made out of money!?

I only play good games
it is morally wrong to play bad games like this

z axis aiming

Not DOOM

These boss loss cinematics go on a bit long

They basically stopped after dark age, hence there is no use for the shield in 2016 and eternal

STAND AND FIGHT!!!

here take this

RETURN
TO
FORM

holy jobber LMAO
it reminds me of the webm of master chief beating the shit out of him

They are clearly doesn't

Doom???

It's like Bethesda looked at Returnal and said, yes, we can also do that, but lets make it much worse!

that fact that no thread mentions that you cam make the game faster and we use the same webms anyway is fustrating

Controversial Opinion: That setting should be cranked up to make the game feel faster by default and those who want to dial it down may do so, not the other way around.

I couldnt finish the game
It is SO FUCKING BORING
I just couldnt

not an argument, if need to adjust the game speed beyond the default for it to fee correct they fucked up by not making that the default

Why is Doom a shitty bullethell now

No? The game was a prequel anyways. Dude literally kills himself and then fights out of hell back to life.

when id gets shut down

this is exactly how you play Athena on Borderlands The Pre-sequel.

Looks pretty good to me. Much better than Shart Phages or Shiternal.

wtf are these fx nah it looks like something out of those 3d atari games from the 80s

Doom in name only.

That's not doom, bro.

single player game

hit markers

There is no greater indicator that a game is a piece of shit than this.

They are mortally challenged

Why do they feed in monsters piecemeal against the doom guy in every game? Why not just teleport in as many cyberdemons as the arena can hold?

Doom has always been about strafing and dodging projectiles aside from the hitscan zombie soldiers, now there's just more projectiles so it's harder.

visually goofy but this was a fun fight

you will never experience the Expedition 33 menu for the first time

Grim.

dude, you playing on i'm too young to die?

cyberdemon birthrates collapsed

biggest launch in ID's history

more than Eternal? Then why is the all time peak concurrent players on steam less than 1/3rd of Eternal? Even Doom 2016 surpassed it. not that it's the only indicator, but it's a pretty clear one with numbers like that.

The game is fast enough, I just want an option to turn off the constant slow motion from parries and melee. Not only is it tedious it doesn't even make it easier, it throws off your timing.

"Parry shots" are so weird in games from a lore perspective. Like what causes the parry shots? Why aren't they all parriable? Do the enemies know what causes the parry shots? If so, why don't they stop it from happening?

Ah yes, a boomer shooter.

The doom slayer can sense when a demon fucks up their hocus pocus demon magic and send a flawed projectile that has reflective properties, and they fuck up often because they fear him.

Played the first 5 chapters. Game seems alright.
Only thing that seemed really dumb was the tyrant fight since the best strat seems to be just to stand still next to it and blast it with the skull crusher and parry. It dies in seconds. Fighting them in Eternal was way more frantic.
The stand and fight (tm) is also somewhat dumb since in bigger fights you're constantly worried that some small mob will walk up to you and backstab or shoot you from far away. If you're not full health you can easily die to that.
Fighting in general has been satisfying and not too easy on nightmare 120% gamespeed.

no way... no way this is fucking real

We have dismissed those games.

this isn't HDest, one fireball won't be the end of you

They're called cyberdemons again, and yeah the game literally even gives you a load screen tip that says get up close with the cyberdemon to bait(they even use the word bait) parryable melee attacks. It's a questionable decision to make the cyberdemon a melee fighter, but you're really expected to run up to them one you can otherwise they rape your shield with their rapid fire and can summon spikes when you hide. They made the other powerful demons more varied because it's a mix of ranged and melee, but with the cyberdemon you're pretty much forced to fight it close range.

Why would you build a weapon like that?

they did that but all that did was make people buy the rest of the episodes

to surpass metal gear

That's why the villains always lose. They let honour hold them back and give the hero a second chance. But the hero doesn't give them or their henchmen a second chance, he just massacres them on sight.

Doom the Dark Ages if it was good

mmo mechanics

no thanks

Anon Babble anons expose themself as skillets who never played bullet hell or shmups

You guys just can't s OP telling on yourself.

free mouselook

dude it's totally like a shmup, get good!

lmao what, anon please

Setting the game on faster speed makes it look weird.
Did they announce this?

rofl
roflmao even

This looks so fucking lame. The only games to do parrying well were Sekiro and Dead Cells.

What's the matter, I thought you idiots liked those 2hu shmups.

that is the game eternal haters wanted and they are loving it!

Is there a cut in the video at 1:01 or is the game actually that shitty?

toys and treats pop out of him every time he gets hit

the turbosoulslop parryfest turn based Sekiro sold at minimum 3x as much

Was parrying in Doom really at fault?

Only a back to back Sekiro sequel would reveal how much people liked that playstyle. Coming from FromSoftware almost anything would have sold some numbers.

DOOM is meant to be played fast.

Nah not really. That's more of a somewhat recent trend with all the trannies and whatnot.

You don't even have to aim the parry LOL
It just auto redirects to the enemy

Why is he wearing skin colored gloves?

It's an FPS so most people wouldn't want parrying in it but the presentation definitely hurt it. If you could simply parry any projectile then it would be much better received because it's straightforward and makes sense. Enemies sometimes shooting green projectiles is just ridiculous and looks stupid because it makes it look like the enemies are deliberately fucking themselves over.

Just beat Doom 2016.
Great game. Dogshit boss fights.

Time to play Eternal I guess.

what a fucking giga silver with that crosshair placement, I'd just 1deag it with a wide peek

t. faceit 5

Why would anyone who plays shmups play normalfag zoomer shit like nuDoom?

It's Dark Souls!

Fantastic game except for the last level.
Haven't played the DLC campaign yet.

try Ultrakill

is this a mobile rhythm game?

was i lied too?

i thought this game was failing.
7x faster to 3 million players than DOOM Eternal.

Not yet but it's probably designed to be one eventually.

The original Doom literally invented organized speedrunning. The only tranny here is you.

They remaster the game?

now

Never played past e1m1?

Made by the same guys that made wolfenberg.

Doom was never bullet hell, doom 2 was never bullet hell. Bonus leves might've been hard but it wasn't bullet hell. Stop projecting. This webms looks like a shitty version of risk of rain 2

Parrying in E33 looks and feels cool as fuck
"Parrying" in Doom look like Fischer-Price color match discoball nonsense

Doom was never bullet hell,

Dude shut the fuck up, you literally dodge projectiles and shoot back in all classic doom games

STAND
AND
SHITE

doom is very overrated and put enphasis on the very

how do they compare to 2016?

That's all Doom games though.

Anon Babble reacting to this in the same way they did to eternal

Never change, faggots

The original Doom literally invented organized speedrunning.

So doom is for trannies? Good to know, and thanks for playing.

The fact that they're listing "players" instead of sales means there's definitely some fuckery going on with their count.

And it's a good thing. Game should look like a game, not gay pretentious movie slop.

The game is on goyimpass so they can say any number they want, since they don't publish user data, other than say that there's 50 million subs (which is probably also bullshit).

It's already hard enough to see enemies in many games when everything has to happen in some incredibly detailed world full of clutter.

i don't care about doom but just so you know who spams these repetitive low effort threads

Honestly it's a sad state that advertising you have a gajillion bajillion players is even seen as necessary for a fucking single player game. You could be the only person in the world playing the game and it wouldn't affect your experience at all.

Fuck off

NPCs want to be part of "the next big thing". It's always been this way.

not an argument, if need to adjust the game speed beyond the default for it to fee correct they fucked up by not making that the default

So giving people options that you cannot find in almost any other game is bad now, mkay?

why the fuck is doomguy lefthanded?

Guys can you unironically recommend me some bullet hell FPS games? i remember seeing one that looked pretty kl it had stupid ahh toy-like weapons but i cant recall the name

I found out that Returnal is a bullet hell game over any other shit.

ah yes, the Fird Person Shooter. thx

The sad part about this is that I would actually like to play it but I can't ebcause I'm a poor fag and mandatory RTX fucked me, nciely done id.

Sir people be lenient english is my second language and the acronyms are hard

DooM used to be good

That's not what bullet hell is.
You might know bullet hell as shmop.
It's a subgenre where your job is to dodge projectiles and maybe switch colors. Basically nothing like doom.

it was mogged by shadow warrior lets be honest

what happens when red and green balls touch?

can see what's happening

can make fov higher than 50

Yep it's a real game

well let's get this started

players

players

Now reveal the sales.

game speed 150%

Basically.

launch game

+1 player

quit game

launch game

+1 player

lol
LMAO

I enjoyed the dark ages gameplay I thought it was fun and I kind of want to go back to play even after beating it. My biggest complaint are the filler missions and not enough time is spent in hell. I hope the expansion dlc focuses on that. It also felt like they had 20 different people making maps, some were tight with cool secrets to get to while other had the same issue that some doom 2 maps had being too sprawling.

this is peak gameplay according to dumb boomers

Ahhh yes i see the issue now.
ITS A FUCKING SHOOTER IN WHICH YOU DONT HAVE TO AIM AT ALL
FUCK

STAND
AND
FIGHT

awkwardly punching Hasbro plastic Cthulhu with a shitty visor effect, cartoon colors, zero weight animations, random pickups dropping like a piñata

Who is this for

Those niggers at id just don't like mecha at all.

Reddit loves every single one of those characteristics
the prospective sales figures for just funkos of the mechs, notcthulu, doomguy, and the non doomguy human characters must be insane

Sekiro

sekiro is just long enough for you not to notice how lackluster the system really is

and that game probably 1/20th the budget of nu-doom

it was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the shield throw, it't fucking Athena lmao.

the modern audience delivered to you by those who only had gaming in their lives.
Also known as Players™

I died inside at the 4th turret section

nice of him to show you which slow moving blob projectiles are ones you can block
maybe these demons aren't really bad guys after all?

I retroactively regret buying 2016 because I helped fund this slop

Let’s face it, no one played the game and got any clips that make the game look good, did they.

Grim.

okay this game will take place in the distant past

we're still going to be running around with high tech weapons systems though

whats the fucking point
why couldn't we get hexen doom
I'd care a lot less about all the parry shit if you actually needed to do it to survive in a melee centric combat system instead of it being a get out of jail free card while you hold m1 and wait for your not glory kill indicators

people who buy funkopops.

Games made by 80 iq people, for 80 iq people.

this is just a quick time event with extra steps

doombers will defend this

is this the new candy crush saga?

I actually think that this specific type of manly wholesome beard badass redditor died in the recession

That probably feels really good while playing but it also looks hella goofy

I know people have used the term "parryslop" before, often needlessly or exaggeratedly, to denigrate games they don't like or shitpost but this is actually fucking parryslop

I managed about 5 hours playtime, was already pretty bored by the game and uninstalled when they put me back in the mech. I'm guessing there's more flying shit too which was even more boring.

modern market

You laugh now, but this will be the industry standard till at least 2035.

It's a rictus laugh

I'll continue laughing and not blindly playing industry standard slop for a few more decades then

Doom: Peggle Edition

this is peak gameplay according to dumb zoomers

implying it’ll take even that long for real time generative ai

brown hands typed this post

SAAAR

turn them off

level one

looking up and down

not sprinting

this person does not know how to play the game

sir the ai is generating fast, very fastly we will generate the needful ai

shill33 parries are harder than TDA, ponder that

ENOUGH WITH THE TURRET SECTIONS

How does he not know how to play the game? He didn't take any damage and killed everything. If you played that way in Eternal or TDA you die because these games being good at them puts you in the fun zone. If that's not a "fun" way to play than the game should be better designed.

you're massively overthinking it. from a PR perspective calling them "players" is a more friendly term than sales. 3 million players are a community engaged with the game, 210 mil in sales are a brag and the itemization of their player base as a bottom line.

just wait for the brutal doom mod that adds the cap america shield and the key that lets you rev hte lawnmower

speedrunning

you use this word like it means something good

watching some streamer play nu-doom

they shield charge a big enemy

eat all their armor and like 70% of their life in retaliation

they still do it again and again

what the fuck

read

Needs a style meter and this would be the perfect webm.
CRAZY!

Eternaltrannies got filtered so fucking hard by this game. It's a Doom bullet hell and they couldn't handle it lmao

it's more Doom than The Reddit Ages.

Nah it's missing the fingerless glove -meter.

Wesley Wolf called it Red Light Green Light lmao

bullet hell

what is this new cope buzzword? Is the "boomer-shooter" genre outdated already?

This is what modern game developers think "smart" gameplay is.

Bullet hell is an old, old term. Shut your infant mouth, zoomie.

7/10 bait

When you crank up aggressiveness and shot speed the turn down damage you deal to 50%
It certainly does turn into a bullet hell

it is extremely painful

mouselook

Faggot

you're a doom guy

for you

bullet hell, more like parry hell kek

fuck they're desperate they are already releasing the DLC 1 trailer
youtube.com/watch?v=RLYAwAc62k4

muttoid devs have to kneel before the ESL chads when making their shit slop games? KEK what a bunch of little bitches

its fun albeit, btw I like almost all doom games can't say any of them are particularly awful

Does anyone remember a kids gameshow, I think it might have been Canadian, that almost always had Bop It as one of the prizes?

2 fps

forced rtx its the best my 970 can do

This honestly looks like a chore to play, I don't want to fucking STAND I want to MOVE

You will unfortunately have to move a lot, or you WILL die you can clearly see I got hit once and that took away quite a bit of armor and HP.
It's simply a corner section where I got ambushed in later levels you constantly have to look around because even a low tier zombie that spawns behind you can kill you very fast.
So you have to constantly keep moving.

They're referring to shmups... but these zoomer faggots want to pretend they're hip and cool boomers like they were born in the 80s when in reality they were born in the late 00s. They call it 'bullet hell' because they're fucking retarded. just like zoomer fags call retro fps - 'boomer shooters'

Doom 2016 was surprisingly easy on Ultra-Violence.
Is Eternal the same way? Should I just choose a harder difficulty for it on my first playthrough?

a low tier zombie that spawns behind you can kill you very fast

that's actually sounds pretty fucking annoying. its not Dead Space why are thye angling for gotchas

I think it might have been Canadian, that almost always had Bop It as one of the prizes?

Was it Uh Oh! on YTV?

Ultra Violence is the way to play any Doom game.
Eternal Ultra Vioelnce felt more like Normal mode except on the Master Levels

its one of the more common complaints, the worst is not even that though imo its the invisible imps that spawn in the middle of fighting an elite, you might not notice them considering the chaos and those can instantly fuck you up kek

start on UV finish the game get hooked on that sweet difficulty curve then play nightmare and get your arse kicked and have to get even better on nightmare
its so good

Eternal kicked my ass on HMP blind playthrough. It's not an easy game, took me 3 playthroughs to learn it and get good. I recommend HMP.
TDA on the other hand was very doable on UV.

This is pretty much my take

I feel so vindicated to finally see this.
Why make your animations responsive and communicative when you can just have a little obscuring X that also turns red. It's dogshit game design.

slaughterslop

yes i love using only 1 or 2 weapons if they give you the bfg, and holding M1 down so cool

So inferior to Id's games. Jesus.

Game is pretty mid, the parrying is remedial and I don’t think it’s that satisfying of a mechanic. They also seemed to drastically reduce the execution animations. I liked how in 2016 you could jump on them when they’re in a daze and stomp them out, now it’s like the most generic and boring same hit every time. The gimmicks are annoying just diversify the guns, animations, enemies, story and call it day.

SUBWAY JOCKEY

Man, eldritch beings don't fit in Doom. This really shoul've been Quake.

yeah you watched the new video thanks for your unoriginal opinion take it to reddit faggot

I got the last achievement an hour ago and I don't feel like replaying it at all. It's not a bad game and I had fun in my one and a half playthrough but I think I saw everything it has to offer. Did any of you play it more than twice?

I'lll take it to your mom fag.

This "bullet hell" was just insulting.

Weren't you fags the SAME ONES pushing this "epik doomguy" idea?

he didn't deny it

yikes sweetie I knew I hit it on the head

just started this shit and

MELEE AMMO (max 3)

wtf

I played the first chapter, you’re this mad I criticized it?

here's some math based on the game that isn't followed by capeshit tier superhero origin story

Wow, I can't believe this post and what ID is doing with Doomgu- sorry, DOOM SLAYER currently are exactly the same. You have truly shown me the error of my ways.

Rip and tear, slaya

brother you bought it, I'm just sad but you do you

It's incredible how much worse than that Doom 4 early trailer Nu-Zoom turned out to be. This is absolute repulsive, looks no different than all of those generic dudebro fps games from 2010's.

Gotta say the grenade launcher is the shittiest weapon in any doom. The grenade cluster you get with the last upgrade can't even kill a zombie, what's the point?

This shit isn't fucking Doom. This is some tryhard indie boomershooter.

this is the final boss say something nice about him

Auto-aim faggotry makes it better!1

Why do doomtroons love this shit? The game has zero skill at that point.

Made the game "harder" in a patch

All it does is increase damage done to you

lame ass devs

this is the final boss of the mech minigame say something nice about him

you already take enough damage on nightmare though I don't remember how it compares to eternal the damage wasn't really an issue

A girlboss voiced by Debra Wilson would've tanked that.

fires 1 (ONE) bullet

waits until (lower difficulty speed) fireball impacts wall before coming out of hiding

Doesn't get more disingenuous than this.

they increased it even further, i was getting killed in one hit more frequently cause shit like pinkies were doing over 100 damage

What's your favorite bullet hell, fellow shmup bro? Mine is Nier Replicant!

Oh my Science, did the Doom Slayer™ just freaking punch Cthulhu in the hecking face?!

this isn't Anon Babble, phonefaggot

Play Doom Eternal as a cover based shooter. You'll die because the game is designed to put you into the fun zone. Sorry that og doom isn't well designed.

lel

Yes, every enemy is stuffed with ammo and medkits. Truly challenging. Truly Doom™

That's so freaking badass!!!!

It is incredible how playing Doom / Doom II actually makes you feel like more of a powerful badass than Dark Ages does.

gotta play it on 120%

i wouldnt play this on 4,000% or 1%, dogshit is dogshit at every speed

you're brown

Is he the only cosmic enemy to get cyborg implants? I think it goes against the image of old gods. They should have a primal sanctity, and be beyond technology as we understand it.

wtf color blind bros.

Yea because he's ded and got repurposed/resurrected it seems

increase enemy projectile speed

reduce parry window

increase game speed up to 150%

Then it became fun, unironically

How is it even particle to make melee feel so weightless. Nothing looks like it ever connects even even weight up on an enemy.

Forgive me for phoneposting. Possible*

SHWOOP

BING

WAHOOO!

BONK BONK BONK

YIPEE

I didnt wrote that post

kek at all the ADHD tards replying to this

Doom didn't look like this anon. This is just shitty aesthetics

I feel like a retard watching this bullshit

These suck because Doom doesn't give you the mobility to avoid damage well and you have to facetank everything.

plebbit screencrap

How embarrassing

I like this kind of gameplay more than eternals tbqh, yes parry especially with shock rune and the final melee weapon is overpowered but as long as you master that you feel like you can just go up to demons faces and fuck their shit up, you know what you're supposed to be doing lorewise as opposed to eternals zipping as zapping around.

giving a single flying fuck about the lore in a doom game

holy shit kill yourself

lorewise

lol

Stranger of paradise does it well, especially with greatsword build

So glad i grew up with proper shootera and not this boomer shit

Yes as opposed to being a sissy

Who the fuck do you think youre fooling, faggot?

These screen grabs are from eternal, and Eternal has no turret sections.

God this board is just shills and counter shills. Dead internet.

you guys are such cynical faggots, what games DO you like?

Hugo Martin is a fromnigger hack

Game is too slow on 100% turned it up to 130%. You can shield throw to destroy armor immediately once it turns red.

Im surprised at how poor its doing. I think its worse than Eternal but its better than 2016. 2016 was too basic, but TDA just lacks the raw adrenaline of eternal. Ammo is plentiful, parries are reliable. Weapons are fun and all but the game is definitely more basic. Mech and Dragon segments are also kind of there. Theyre not bad but they feel like filler and nobody wanted any of that in a Doom game.

What really sucks is the story. 2016 was deliberately saying fuck you to the story. This has cutscenes full of boring characters including an ugly girlboss bitch. Music is just there this time around. No stand out tracks. Really poor.

Overall I think its a good game. Gameplay is fun but its more basic than eternals.

see

Amid Evil.

turn auto sprint on. The game is fast as fuck

this is kreed maykr that they were hyping up in the previous game? holy fucking kek

I liked Doom

Game is too slow

game is much faster than eternal.

but TDA just lacks the raw adrenaline of eternal. Ammo is plentiful, parries are reliable

the only thing harder than tda in lauch eternal is gladiator+icon fights. and maybe 1 fight on final sin. otherwise the games are pretty equal on difficulty

t. beat TAG1 on UNM, and TDA on Pandemonium

cthulhu vs a giant robot

eww, get this shit out of my face and never refer to it as "DooM" please and thank you.

This is the bait people fall for nowdays

its no less bait than retards posting the same ball parrying tutorial boss

This tells me nothing faggot.a4rx2

I just responded because I mention HDest whenever I can because it's unintentional comedy sometimes

So True Bestie
Take My Gold

why he have tits on his back

yes not liking what you like - cynacism

he has no dick

no thats not how it works

hell > everything, including actual gods, concepts and the makyr
however
random guy injected with alien jizz > hell and therefore everything

"reddit is bad" meanwhile you are ribbing on a game using evidence posted by people who want you to feel a certain way about something instead of forming your opinion yourself.

Hottest character in the game for sure.

Eh. "Bullet hell fps" is a cool idea and I don't think that that itself was the problem. It's just that it's too easy. If they had balls to put in some actually difficult patterns it would been cinema but no, they took the safe boring approach.

the anon who originally posted these webms of his gameplay on Anon Babble provided no commentary positive or negative however

Way too much waiting on some kind of finish after hitting enemies that don't really react 20 times in this. Is Doomguy gay? Why is all his combat just foreplay?

Why the fuck does it need to do EPIC SLOMO every hit? Is that a toggleable thing?

g_enablegameTimeScaling 0 but you need a mod to make the command go through. They put in all the difficulty options but couldn't include slowmo toggle...

This has cutscenes full of boring characters including an ugly girlboss bitch

True, but is she really a girlboss if you go and rescue her? She barely appears in the game. The only girlbossy part she plays is in the final level where she commands the sentinels while the slayer kills the faggy prince of hell.

SPBP

I mean the alien jizz was taken out of the actual lord of hell so it kinda checks out?

because it gives the impression of the animations having weight when they otherwise sort of lack weight or impact
go look at the cthulu mech fight and watch how limp the feelback is for every action is especially the finisher with the shoulder cannons that's supposed to be your dopamine reward for filling up the stagger circle

youtu.be/KJBUF-s15co

bullet hell is about dodging, not being required to stand your ground taking damage with your giant hitbox

Wasn’t the slow mo and previously the glory kills used to give the player time to breathe and think his next move? I always see those pauses as such but I understand people not liking it, hell i get tired of them once I get used to the rhythm of the game.

You are dodging the red ones, there just isn't enough of them to make it engaging.

they only look dumb in video recordings but they feel fine in game. they are basically glory kills but you get to look around in them.

so how many more years do we have to keep dealing with this shit

With what? Do you even know what the circles in Doom are for?

just play this game, you will have a much better experience than with nu-doom

bwahahahaha

lmao

only issue I have with the parry is the slowdown really. seems unnecessary

I can't even sit through this webm
there has never been a single boss battle in FPS games that wasn't total shit
when will they learn and stop making them

they are inorganic input indicators that are the equivalent of key dangling because the player cannot be trusted to perform the correct input otherwise

doom 3's graphics blew people away when it came out which is hilarious now but the game was a big deal and it was fun and fuck you

The worst part of these new Doom games is people are trying to say Doom 3 was good.
Even when I was 12, I clocked that piece of shit for what it ws.

old... le good!

In Doom? No they aren't.

What are you laughing at, I'm right.

the graphics were good

Everything looked like it was made of potatos and everything was perpetually dark

it was fun

It was a series of incredibly narrow corridors and heavily scripted encounters, you can literally memorise the entire game's encounters to the second.

and fuck you

Fuck me yourself, coward.

yes they are, whether the flashing circle is orange or purple prompts you to do one of two different inputs and the giant simon says balls were laughed at the moment they were revealed in the pre release footage

youre mad because im obviously right

whether the flashing circle is orange or purple prompts you to do one of two different inputs

Please go on. Entertain me. The different inputs?

It should've been Blood.
Not Doom.
Blood is way cooler.

all of TDA's bosses were pretty good. you're just experiencing it through shitposters, which obviously doesn't help your perception.

if there wasn't slomo how could you have the time to soiface at the screen over how epic you are?

Not him, but from a PR perspective it makes more sense to refer to sales or "copies sold" because it looks good to investors and bumps up the stock price, which is what they truly care about when releasing metrics like this. Not referring to sales is always a bad sign because there's no other reason to conceal them

but le cummoonitee

They don't give a fuck about that. They already have the money of the people who bought the game and played it past the capacity to refund it.

Goddamn that is so cringe, it's like it was written by a 13 year old

Why did they make her a lesbian

wtf is this stupid magnet pulling punching and kicking shit?

What in the actual fuck is this dog shit

It's getting harder to tell which posters look at OP's webm and earnestly go "OMG WOW THAT GAMEPLAY LOOKS SO BAD WTF IS GOING ON", falling for the same bait of Game Journalists struggling to play the tutorial and taking it at face value as an indication for the type of game to expect.
With how common it is I'm starting to believe Anon Babble genuinely is just full of knee-jerk retards who are happier to pretend a game is as bad as their imagination thinks it is, and scream at the top of their lungs about it, than to just shut up and go and play fucking video games.

They tried to turn doom into a rhythm game, that's why everything is magnetised and you can control the speed through settings.

this kills the shitposter

Game Journalists struggling to play the tutorial and taking it at face value as an indication for the type of game to expect.

If game journalists were doing these webms, they would be playing way worse

youtube.com/watch?v=8mEP4cflrd4
You mean like OG Doom?

all modern western vidya does this

Now that you mention this, I’ve been wondering, why JP game companies don’t do this, some of them announce sales when the game sells well but when they don’t, they simply don’t announce anything about sales/players/shipped copies, etc, like square enix with ffvii rebirth. The game didn’t do well but they didn’t go for the players or shipped copies route, why only western companies do this when the game is failing to meet sales expectations?

This post reeks reddit faggotry, no wonder this shithole is fucking dying. it's filled with crybabys retards like you.

Everything is dying according to people like you.

the only alternative to that is either making melee useless since making it hitbox based means you can't reliably hit anything, or making it so youre not punching but you're sending shockwaves like blood punch.

Western public relations is all about image and narrative, which usually involves lying when things go badly (recall "and that's a good thing!" taglines), or as close to lying as they're willing to risk in a legal sense. Why the japanese lack this attitude, I cannot say, perchance they simply don't kvetch as much over stock price drops and just knuckle down to do something tangible to recover it.

You're right, a Game Journo would be missing every single time - but it's still very much a "PUSH A TO JUMP" tutorial segment.

This post reeks of election tourist trying too hard to fit in.
Also

it's filled with crybabys retards like you

Nice ESL.

damn you might have to actually need to judge distance and timing line up with what the enemy is doing can't have that

its so boring

I think it's meant to be a replacement of Eternal's glory kills, but it's not a small kill animation.
It kinda just moves you towards the target and then moves you back to where you were when you pressed it.
It doesn't offer i-frames or anything like in Eternal though, and using it poorly on Nightmare+ is basically a death sentence.

I don't really get what's wrong with it. You have to parry the green shit back at him? Ok? I've never played a single Doom game btw lol. I just don't get what is so heinous about this clip that I keep seeing it everywhere. Seems like a thing in a video game.

that's just a bad suggestion. so you'd never be able to hit them reliably? which means you never use melee for half the enemies when instead you can just stay at range and spam your weapon at it, which is that every player would do the first time they try to melee some demon that keeps jumping around and then dying because of it.

KEK what the fuck is that shit

who was doing 5 glory kills in a row on the same enemy in eternal?

you're right nobody ever made a game where you need to properly distance and time your attacks because that would be impossible

That imagouse. Romerog Doom. mouse. Obviously you couldn't aim in y axis but you could still aimge is shit. sly you couldn't aim in y axis but you couldD still aiYou could play Wolf3 from the start wih the m with the moth a when they weren't even planning on makinking Doom. mouse. Obvioum wituse. Romero was speedrunning it with a mouse years ago

The only people who think Doom 3 wasn't good were people who didnt make it out of mars lol.

It's a new mechanic. You essentially get 3 free Glory Kill charges to use whenever, but you can still do the same Glory Kill animation on low HP enemies.
It felt a little weird at first, but with how many enemies the game throws at you it ends up working out.

so you'd have players wait around to hit an enemy they are at melee range with? again, nobody would use melee if you can't reliably stagger something leading you to getting hit which means there is 0 reason to go into melee range because you are relying on getting a melee hit off.

defeats the purpose of having the melee as an option. otherwise it can't compete with ranged options.

you're right nobody has ever included melee attacks in a shooter without having them magnetize you to the target several feet away because having to find a time to close in and get into range is just impossible

based
I've literally never enjoyed this shit

even the most consolebabby shooter halo didnt do this, are you retarded?

check out other videogame threads

people enjoying the game and discussing it

check out thread on the new Doom, actual doom fans are shitting on it because it's obviously cringe and literal shit

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY DOES Anon Babble HATE MY HECKIN BADASS REDDIT GAME, YOU DON'T PLAY GAMES???!!?

kill yourself you manchild faggot

so where is the example of a shooter that does this. halo? that game where everything moves in slow motion?

actual doom fans

don't flatter yourself, tortanicfag

doom

glory kills and blood punch. both are there for the reasons listed.

the original doom retard

if you're 30+ years old you should be aware that theres a good chance most of what you read on Anon Babble is posted by someone half your age
this applies to most of what you read on the internet

Your game flopped, keep coping and seething over it.

inb4 but muh 3 million players!

players

LMAO

...is irrelevant to this discussion because it's some 2D game before mouse control even became a thing.

post a game with a kbm control scheme and equally fast combat as TDA where you have to rely on melee hits.

careful anon you're going to hurt yourself moving goal posts that much

check out other videogame threads

people enjoying the game and discussing it

Do not even fucking kid yourself with this bullshit you lying fucking faggot. You are either new or extremely delusional if you earnestly believe that the way Anon Babble talks about nu-Doom is SOMEHOW exclusive to just this one singular installment of the game.

Anon Babble talks about EVERY NEW FUCKING THING the exact same way, begging and pleading for everything to be the newest Tortanic.
Even when your retarded bullshit doomposting rhetoric completely irrevocably and demonstratably BTFO, there will still be a legion of you obnoxious faggots crying about this shit for years.

Pic related.
Go castrate yourself, then consider suicide.

quake

quake doesn't require you to rely on melee.

talking about slowmotion when none of the enemies in the webm even moved once

right, you have the option and in the right situations its quite viable

a rare based anime poster

parryslop is over

in what situation in quake are you required to land 3 back to back hits in rapid succession on an enemy that keeps jumping around in order to utilize a built in mechanic?

You cannot make quality judgements on anything without looking at what other people are saying about it. Literally all you're doing here is being a contrarian amongst contrarions, you are no better or worse than the rest of Anon Babble, regardless of whether new game is the next tortanic or not.

because that's not what the webm is trying to showcase? go ahead and show me how you utilize a hitbox based melee on a komodo running around in a game with no reliable way to stun superheavies.

if you're cool and bludgeon a fiend to death with your axe because you're not a pussy or out of ammo to utilize the built in mechanic of reducing an enemy's health to zero

so at this point you're running out of ideas and can't understand why the game design demands that you reliably hit melee attacks on enemies that have wildly more mobile movement than quake's simplistic enemies

lolz

its a fun fight, but i hate how lame the attacks look, not idea why the changed the eternal/2016 energy balls to holograms or something

to be fair it makes sense here, he knows doomguy can revive from death and says he will look a more "permanent solution" of trapping him in energy prison

its a cool bit, but its badly presented, dark ages story is a complete mess of good ideas and terrible realization

you sound like the faggot intern who pitched the idea

its okay to admit that you've never played any of the shooters until 2016 but you shouldn't try making things up about enemies in a game you've never played

Anon Babble talks about EVERY NEW FUCKING THING the exact same way, begging and pleading for everything to be the newest Tortanic

Anon Babble has enough TORtanics to stay busy for a while (Marathon, Fairgame$), but TDA was a flop and there is no denying that, we're merely trying to figure out what went wrong this time.

You cannot make quality judgements on anything without looking at what other people are saying about it

Written like an actual fucking NPC. The fact that you need other people to do your thinking for you speaks absolute volumes.
Yeah, you can go anywhere and educate yourself on the way other people's thinking - but if you've come to Anon Babble and arrived at the conclusion that the people who post here are of sound judgement and aren't just by and large extremely bitter faggots who get mild excitement from shitting in video games as a hobby, then I'm sorry to say the only judgement call you've made is a terrible one.
It's more productive to go to a Steam page and read the reviews from people who have actually played the game, than to take whatever "TOTALLY UNIQUE ANONYMOUS POSTER WHO HAS MADE THE SAME THREAD 7 DAYS IN A ROW WITH THE SAME WEBMS AND IMAGES" at face value.
And FWIW, Steam reviews put the game at an 86% positive - so it's alright.

But also

YET YOU PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY, VERY CURIOUS

Lol, lmao even.

but you shouldn't try making things up about enemies in a game you've never played

ironic because you are talking about a game you have never played, because anyone who played TDA doesn't need a dissertation for why you can't have non-homing melee in this game. it's just obvious from the get go.

NTA but I remember checking out Anon Babble back in 2011 and everyone was creaming their pants over how good Dark Souls 1 was. This board and this board alone directly influenced me in buying (and it became my favorite game of all time). This website seriously does talk shit about everything today and I don't know if it was always like this.

If Dark Souls 1 came out today, this board would INCESSANTLY talk shit about how Blight Town was a broken piece of shit. Of course, people mentioned it back then too, but the attitude generally was "despite the major fps drops in Blight Town, Dark Souls tends to be an amazing experience". Nowadays it would be nothing NOTHING but straight shit talking. gifs and webms ALL DAY about the fps drops in Blight Town. You would get the impression that the entire game was a broken mess from visiting this board. There is sentiment of "cooler heads" prevailing today. We just hyper focus on flaws and pretend the whole game is nothing but those singular flaws.

pretty much, E33 has great sound and visual design, you can parry on audio cues alone
in Doom Dark ages they removed attack audio cues from Eternal for some reason, so its all visual, and for some reason they removed the energy ball attacks too, so now attacks are those wierd balls?
no idea what they were thinking

its okay to admit that you've never played any of the shooters until 2016 but you shouldn't try making things up about enemies in a game you've never played

we're merely trying to figure out what went wrong this time.

lol how naive. the board has at least 50 people that do nothing but look for the next tortanic bandwagon.

cherry-picking this hard

if you're looking for some kind of toxic positivity echo chamber about your dogshit retarded game, reddit is the right place for you and maybe you should stay there you disingenuous nigger, keep coping and seething.

ok so you're trolling i get it

There is no* sentiment of "cooler heads" prevailing today.

We already know why it hasn't been a ground breaking blockbuster financial success
It's:

On gamepass

Overpriced if it isn't on gamepass (oddly enough the collector's edition is priced pretty decently)

Poorly optimized/forced RTX because lol nvidia

It's a game made by a Microsoft-owned studio, it's designed to bolster the "value" of having a Gamepass subscription.

no I'm pointing out that you've proven your ignorance of any video game outside of the nudooms where there were decades of shooters that had melee options that didn't feel the need to magnetize you to enemies for fear that you'd be sad when you missed, hence
its okay to admit that you've never played any of the shooters until 2016 but you shouldn't try making things up about enemies in a game you've never played

Go cry about bear sex or whatever the fuck else you do in your spare time. Certainly not playing video games.

sovl

Absolute truth nukes.

Written like an actual fucking NPC

You misunderstand me, Anon, I am saying that (You) cannot make quality judgements without looking at what others are saying, namely contrarians on Anon Babble.

Didn't read the rest, probably just an autistic meltdown.

players

every time
sales are literally the only thing that matters when it comes to determining a game's success

you were told to give an example of a game where enemies actually run from you and you're required to reliably hit melee or the entire game design stalls and you didn't actually provide any examples, you just went into a lockdown mode or trolling mode.

Are you retarded?

You aren't meant to actually admit that you're projecting your delusional fantasies on to other posters.

You're the one crying tho you stupid faggot lmao

Yeah okay, if it makes it hurt less then keep telling yourself that lil bro.

those are your coping goal posts after a dozen posts of trying to dance around the fact that you can have melee in an fps without having to magnetize animations to ensure retards don't have to feel bad for missing
first it had to be something faster than the other anon's halo suggestion, then it had to be true 3D, now it has to "stall game design"
I'll be nice and not pin you too hard with the "native m+kb" controls goalpost shift for the original doom but regardless,
its okay to admit that you've never played any of the shooters until 2016 but you shouldn't try making things up about enemies in a game you've never played

GG and 2016 nuked the site and you're standing in the ashes complaining that people have no houses

no you were the first in this argument trying to bring up how doom having no tracking melee attack means it would work in TDA which features completely different designs

examples of which you cannot provide because it's apparent you have no idea what it is we're actually talking about since you haven't played the game. to you the enemies don't exhibit any movement patterns outside of what you've seen in the 10sec of total time you've spent watching meme webms about the game.

You're the one coming into this thread, witnessing a bunch of anons complaining about a game, then proclaiming that they're all contrarians so the opposite of what they are saying must be the truth.

Has it entered your mind for even a second that, perchance, the criticisms could be legitimate? Fuck no, that much is obvious. So as I said, all you're doing here is being a contrarian amongst contrarians.

you're the one saying that its impossible to expect a player to land melee hits without the game pulling them in from several feet away
then I list games where you can run in and land melee hits in a shooter that don't require you to be automatically pulled in several feet and also don't give you generous stagger animations of open air the way nudoom does
you've simply never played anything before doom 2016 and are mindbroken into trying to damage control for this game at all costs or just baiting
either way
its okay to admit that you've never played any of the shooters until 2016 but you shouldn't try making things up about enemies in a game you've never played

GG and 2016 nuked the site

True

you're standing in the ashes complaining that people have no houses

I don't really think this is a good analogy. It's more like complaining that your once white only neighborhood is now full of niggers.

2016 doom was the only fun NuDoom

yes you're autistically screeching about someone disagreeing with you because you thought you were gigabrain for pointing the game having melee attack tracking is an automatic con when there are games where you don't have tracking despite apples not being comparable to oranges, and now you're mad when pointed out your comparison was never valid, i get it.

autistically screeching

amazing projection
all I've had to do is stick to a single salient point and you immediately start moving goal posts seething
that this has all started because someone said that auto tracking attacks are a boring trope of dumbed down modern gaming made you mad is endlessly entertaining
now
its okay to admit that you've never played any of the shooters until 2016 but you shouldn't try making things up about enemies in a game you've never played

you shouldn't try making things up about enemies in a game you've never played

so have you played TDA

Ok then, mention ONE, just one, "good", and no Dusk, no Amid Evil, no F.E.A.R. (great game btw). and not any game made in GZDoom, and if you mention Call of Duty, i will skin you alive and flail you corpse.

What were they thinking...

thank you for your concession

it's and Id game

so inferior to id's games

your bait is bad kiddo, try again

so you were making things up about enemies in a game you've never played?

yeah, you enjoy getting kicked in the ass, right?

its cool in theory if you're able to get over the wow cthulu aspect

that this has all started because someone said that auto tracking attacks are a boring trope of dumbed down modern gaming made you mad is endlessly entertaining

now

btw, i never said it was boring trope. so this was just your projection and poisoning the well from the start.

Tron 2.0 baybee

I said it was a boring trope because of modern video game design

That's the only cool part about it. The gameplay is what sucks.

Who let you out of your cell, Civvie?

lol are you are still in this thread after being fucked in the ass so hard

terraria boss fight are gooder then 3d game boss

keep samefagging you autistic shit there's nothing wrong with the tracking

Nintendo ass gameplay

why won't you reply to me anymore does your ass hurt too much?

this is retarded

Ok you can stay(based btw), but the rest of you niggers better come up with something, and i want to hear good fps NOW!

i'm joined thread now bro
what u talking about

how mind broken are you

This could have been good, but they botched it

What is it about old Doom that inspires such autism and hatred for nuDoom? Most of you weren't even alive when those games came out.

Bros i just beat doom 2016 it sucked it was a bunch of arenas connected by small corridors but none of the arena designs changed fundamentally how i approached each encounter (they were too small and all enemies are capable of getting into higher places) beyond deciding when to get the power ups it was very repetitive and boring plus weapon balance was way off

is doom eternal any good?

Who the fuck is talking about tracking? The whole mech/dragon sequences are as shallow as your pre-frontal cortex.
They are all vapid flash without any meat.

Unlike probably most of the people in this thread, I've played the game from start to finish on the hardest difficulty.
I've formed my opinion on the game (it isn't stellar) so I come to see what other people think about it, but when I enter this thread and see a bunch of faggots crying over a webm of the first tutorial encounter and are using that as the basis for all discussion, I know that it's full of bad faith disingenuous faggotry. As is always the case on Anon Babble.

There is zero quality of discussion to be had when all the people participating are literally proving that they are outsiders. Once cannot discuss the game's peaks and flaws in any way that matters when it's abundantly clear that the people participating in this conversation are spectators.
Why the fuck would you talk about a movie with someone who has only watched the trailer and a few cherry picked clips on YouTube? You wouldn't - and that's absolutely insane to assume that anyone should.

This is a recurring problem on Anon Babble.

It's funny that you have that picture saved, and seem to be sat so highly on your high horse that you've immediately come to the conclusion that I am here to be a contrarian.
You literally cannot perceive for a moment that I am here arguing upon my own beliefs. Either it's because you lack the capacity (but have Dunning-Kruger'd yourself in to believing you do), or you are literally unable to not argue on anything that isn't bad faith - you can do nothing but project and try to argue on your own projections.
You're EXTREMELY good at strawmanning.

old good new bad
unironically

El filtro ultimo

wooooooow

Yeah man, I'm gonna go to Anon Babble's Anon Babble and cry about people hating my heckin badass parryslop game, and tell everyone they're not real gaymers like me. I'm a very serious big boy

It's an easy thing to assume about you because you have yet to argue for a single merit or peak that the game has, you are exclusively complaining about what you perceive to be a bunch of outsiders shitting on a game you've invested your time in.

You may not believe it's worth your time to argue with them in good faith, yet the same could be said of you since you haven't provided anything but complaint about what others are saying.

So at this point you can do one of two things, you can dismiss the thread entirely as not being worth your time, or you can continue to engage with it, but you shouldn't imagine you're any better than anybody else here, myself included. You're not really saying anything but "stop saying game bad, you didn't play."

It is very good but Eternal is better.

Eternal has more focus on platforming and mobility mixed with fast paced combat, but also rock paper scissors style gameplay where you need to use the right guns on the right enemies.
It has an issue where it takes a while for the combat cycle to click, and that's because you need like 5 guns at a minimum for it to work. The first few stages are kinda lame but the later stages improve significantly once you have a bigger arsenal.

But other than that it's hit or miss.
The people who like it, LOVE it.
The people who don't like it, REALLY don't like it.

How old are you?

Eternal has more focus on platforming and mobility mixed with fast paced combat, but also rock paper scissors style gameplay where you need to use the right guns on the right enemies

Ok im already filtered i dont think its for me

spbp

Ah, there's your fallacy. You do not know what I've been posting about, you can never know beyond following a chain of comments and making an educated guess (unless of course your a janny in disguise and you've just outed yourself). For all you know I could be a completely different faggot who has hijacked a comment chain and been arguing for the sake of arguing.
Of course that isn't true, but I'm highlighting a point.

You pick on the only post I make complaining about people who don't play games and instead obsess about Tortanic bullshit.
Understandably you can only inform yourself with all that you know about me, in that I've complained about ONE thing in ONE post - and now you're basing all of your responses on the fact that you ASSUME that's all I've posted about?

That's bad faith arguing buddy.

90

Eternal is much better in my view. I have many overlapping pet peeves with both games, but eternal earns my respect through relentless aggression.
The balance is kinda ass between mods, but nothing as bad as 16's remote det and siege railgun.
The ramp up to a decent arsenal is quicker, and the bestiary is much bigger and deeper.
It's still mostly arena combat, although Arc Complex stands out as a memorable pacy spectacle.
If all else irks you, the meathook is a saving grace, it's just endlessly fun to use.

Understandably you can only inform yourself with all that you know about me, in that I've complained about ONE thing in ONE post - and now you're basing all of your responses on the fact that you ASSUME that's all I've posted about?

That's bad faith arguing buddy.

You are so very correct

Anon Babble talks about EVERY NEW FUCKING THING the exact same way, begging and pleading for everything to be the newest Tortanic.

Yup, extremely correct.
Glad we came to this conclusion.

all of this reminds me of call of duty giving you that lunging aimhack feature on your melee attacks

I guess my ultimate point is that you only get out of a discussion what you're willing to put into it, and that is the board's real problem at the very root. You'll actually see most boards complaining about this in one way or another, struggling to articulate precisely what's wrong. There aren't many effort posters left, if any at all.

now this thread is about a schizo having a meltie and samefagging his own posts

I think its been like that for at least the last hour

is doom eternal any good?

Depends on who you ask. I liked it, it’s more fast paced than 2016 and there is a lot of vertical movement in the arenas. Unlike 2016, you have to use all of your arsenal for different things depending on the enemies you are fighting. Overall the game expects more from you, enemies are faster and hyper aggressive towards you, ammo is scarce, and you have to move around different levels to evade and keep attacking the hordes of demons hunting you. It’s fun if you can manage the fast paced combat, maps are more linear in some cases and still are designed as arenas connected by corridors, but there is more verticality to the maps compared to 2016, with platforming in some areas. Story is shit but games fun overall.

Yes, and I firmly believe the root of this comes from the fact that by default a huge chunk of this website is full of trolls and shitposters, but also mentally unstable immature people incapable of holding actual conversation.
It makes it incredibly hard to have meaningful threads when you have participants who show zero interest in actually discussing the flaws of the game, since it's clear they do not have any investment in the discussion and are just here to shitpost.

Like, for the sake of it: I find that one of the game's bigger flaws is that there's far too many pseudo-open world segments that lessen and lengthen the game experience.
If you're going for basic completion (which frankly you should be, a solid chunk of the game is in optional content) then you end up spending a lot of time just slowly walking between areas "looking" for secrets.
But it defeats itself in that you open up the game map and it tells you exactly where all secret stuff is - so all you're left doing is opening up the map, seeing "oh I haven't been THERE yet" and then slowly walking over to the other side of the map.

But we don't get people discussing that. We only get people parroting bullshit that's become common talking points from people who clearly do not play the game.

The fuck are you?

nudoomfags are mentally ill

true

Kek