I, WHO STAND IN THE FULL LIGHT OF THE HEAVENS, COMMAND THEE WHO OPENS THE GAMES OF HELL

COME FORTH, DIVINE LIGHTNING
THIS ENDS NOW

I N D I G N A T I O N

What did Charlotte Castlevania mean by this?

eehh do you guys play with en dub

Oh, blackness shrouded in light,
Frenzied blaze clad in night,
In the name of the crimson demons,
let the collapse of thine origin manifest.
Summon before me the root of thy power hidden within the lands
of the kingdom of demise!

EKSUPUROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHYOOOOOOONNN!

Does he ever stop being a fucking hypocrite? I tried but I never could finish the game because everyone in the party is so fucking despicable.

He looks like he wants to fuck physically stunted 28yo girls

male

I have tales of zestria somehow in my steam library but never played it
is it any good?

It almost killed the franchise and it got its director fired after a huge controversy. It's the black sheep of the series.

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so I should replay symphonia then

Fun fact: This was all an act and Anise actively sold out Ion because she's a money-grubbing cunt.

It's easily the worst of the series but if you have a sense of humor and high tolerance for garbage you may find the trainwreck amusing.

She wouldn't have kept the peace letter safe if that was the case

The peace letter was worthless without Ion, from the start of the game Anise keeps conveniently losing track of Ion as part of the plan to surrender him to the church, and only fails because Luke and Tear run into him and keep him safe, eventually while Luke is doing other shit she seizes the opportunity and fulfills the plan, gets the money and Ion is killed, but the party and the narrative never hold her accountable because Ion conveniently has a random clone.

t. got filtered by her

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I don't know how you managed to completely misinterpret the narrative presented to you.

Same, more or less, I still finished the game but ever since she appeared I lost all my investment in the story, she's not only an irredeemable twat but she's such a fucking Mary Sue she actively breaks the rules and the lore of the world.

We get it, you like the flat slut so you think up of excuses for her shitty actions.

Wouldn't be an Abyss thread if there wasn't someone shitting on Luke, Jude and/or Anise or the entire party while saying Act 1 did literally nothing wrong

Hey, I just explained things as they are. Regardless of personal enjoyment it is a fact that the game's the black sheep of the series and that it killed Baba's career.

dub

fuck off

You sound mad

Act 1 Luke* I'm retarded

Zestiria was complete ass and killed a lot of good faith with the fans

Berseria comes out and is a much better game with a likeable cast, regaining some trust even though the battle system barely compares to older games

Immediately fumble with Arise afterwards, quite possibly one of the most boring Tales games with all charm removed and awful gameplay mechanics

Man it's like they just want the series to die. Why can't these developers give me another Abyss, Vesperia, Graces f, Xillia 2, or Hearts R to enjoy? It's like they just didn't want to make a Tales game at all.

Sex with Natalia.

Abyss is one of the few cases where a JRPG party contains members that are actively hostile towards each other. Not even "my worthy rival" kind of hostile.

It's not even like they don't have the talent anymore. Yoshito Higuchi, director of Symphonia Abyss and Vesperia is still working at Namco working on a producer role and tweeting things about Vesperia and teases about Abyss. Takumi Miyajima, the scenario writer for Symphonia and Abyss is also there having worked on Scarlet Nexus and scenario support for Arise's DLC. They've got people that made the three most beloved titles in the series still with 'em but they'd rather spend their money on the nth failed gacha game.

What the HECK is that!?

Sex with Arche.

Sex with Mint.

天の完全な光の中に立つ我は、地獄の遊戯を開く汝に命じる。
神の稲妻よ、現れよ。
今こそ終焉を告げる

憤怒

Hypothetically if the combat system of Arise was good would the game be enjoyable? Gameplay is important but I feel like a big reason why people like Tales games is because of the party and how they interact with each other so I'm not sure if making the game fun to play would suddenly make it good.

No, because even when I was having fun comboing boars, I was doing it with the most boring cast in the franchise. Arise has multiple problems.

Soul

Guys stop detailing the waifu thread

Didn't know Jade was someone's waifu

Does Arise have the worst story in the series? Not that the games ever have amazing stories or anything, but Arise has a particularly bad one

Uggghhh.... It's playing dumb

My biggest issue with Arise is that this shit is fundamentally not a Tales game.
What sets Tales apart from other action rpgs is that it combined fighting game conventions with action rpg rules. You have to play bait and punish on harder fighters. You have to block and backstep in response to boss movies. Artes have a level of commitment that makes you pay attention during combos. Graces twists this with sidesteps ala 3D fighters.
But Arise is just anime Darks Souls. It is the same shitty framework as every uninspired post-DS1 action rpg. You have a dodge roll to cancel attacks, meaning you rarely commit to attacks. You have a stagger bar, meaning you have to think about your current combo strings much less. Bosses don't even follow the same rules as enemies because they cannot be staggered.So every boss is just wailing on an enemy with your finger hovering over dodge roll. The team attacks for enemy weaknesses is just the system from Xillia, but infinitely shitter because you may not have access to the right counter because it runs on a fucking cooldown.
Tales has fumbled a lot throughout the years. A lot of these games are fairly mediocre. But at least it had a sense of identity. Arise selling well does not feel like a win because it is barely Tales. It's just the parent company trying to cash in on industry trends That they already helped create. Any good idea is game has (team attacks, selling scrap drops from enemies, two clashing worlds) is executed better in another Tales games. Fuck Arise.

Its second half suffers considerably moreso than any other mainline title. Rena is basically a straight line with fight after exposition dump after fight after exposition dump. You can really tell they ran outta steam.

I think it has one of the most solid worldbuilding and lore of the series, but playing it is a bit rough.

This. The decision to not making it as a new IP is a mistake.

This anime and game were soo good.

Easily the single most forgettable heroine in the franchise