But Expedition 33 isnt a JRP-ACK!!!

by choice, to focus on development*

You know it's kind of racist to both the Japanese and the French to call this a JRPG

JRPG is defined by tropes more than anything and E33 certainly has has them

I dunno about the other titles but the Chrono Trigger Steam version is fucking garbage so of course it's going to be rated higher?

I hate JRPGs but I love Lisa: The Painful. Never played Undertale, nor Pokémon, for that matter.

So you consider Dark Souls and Elden Ring to be JRPGS then?

*commited career sudoku*

SEE?! JRPGS LOST FRENCHIES WON, BUY THE GAME CHUD, ANIME IS BAD, TRANS RIGHTS!

Journalists have really been at it with this game

FF's job, junction, gambit systems, all still discussed to this day. FF6 and 7's world building and soul. Persona 5 kickstarting the boring UI conversation and reminding people how important art direction is. These "inferior" games move the art form forward. E33 just panders to mouth gaping soul averse redditors and will inspire no one. Mark my words.

On Steam

Almost every other JRPG has always been cucked by sony or consoles by doing the 1 year console exclusive shit and then bringing it to PC, to then having really fucking shit performance.

/thread

E33 doesn't have this in the game

this is a ragebait isn't it. Why do they have to cue a bunch of irrelevant games just because they are jrpgs

on steam

most jrpgs have bad pc ports since nippon can't into jrpg. surprised dq xi doesn't have a higher score because it's a better game

it's because they released the game twice

lol beta tested

weebs hate it, that's how you know it's good

I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan and even I would admit that VI, X, and IX are the only ones that come close to E33. I love XI and XIV as well but those don't count.

Has higher reviews than Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger, and other major JRPGs on Steam

Has higher revies than every mainline Final Fantasy

So does Gone Home. What's your point?

Huh you're right
Cultural appropriation/stereotyping of the Japanese and denies the French acknowledgement of their own accomplishment.

Yes, cross-dressing is meant to be a joke, not something that validates them

The E33 creator probably hates this type of headlines since he's a big FF fan

So does Gone Home.

Eh, no. Only checking FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE INTERGRADE, that game has 30K reviews, Gone Home has 13K.

Nooooooooooo, the Japanese can't call their music eurobeat it's not real eurobeat if it isn't made in Europe!!!!!

Yes, cross-dressing is meant to be a joke

Until it isn't.

weebs hate it

This poster has severe autism. And AIDS too.

Reddit game

the dev teams are all big fans of jrpg, meanwhile these articles always suggest otherwise. Why do they push the anti japan propaganda so hard? Why do the journalist hate the japanese

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would.

yeah Expedition 33's steam sales sure look impressive when you compare them to games that sold better than it before steam even existed

it got a slight laugh out of me and i almost considered taking a screenshot

im glad you enjoyed it more

Wrong, hes a FF8CHAD but he rightfully calls out other FFs as gaarbage

Yes, cross-dressing is meant to be a joke, not something that validates them

not in FF7R

Yes they fucking are, and more than most of the Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy games.

Based

FFnigger in absolue shamble lmoa

Nah, you're just retarded.

So does The Last of Us and at least a dozen other shitty walking sim cinematic bullshit games.

"Higher reviews on Metacritic" means absolutely nothing.

the US government only recognizes the sex you're born as now

our cultural update will be shared with the rest of you momentarily

Barry won

With all this shilling I have yet to hear/see/read a single thing this game actually does better than any Japanese RPG.

who cares? everyone knows yoshi p nothing but a hack

Holy retarded fucking take. Just straight up wrong. Dumbest post I've read all month award

Bump ;)

has more black people than your average JRPG

OK, explain to me why Souls games sans Sekiro aren't JRPGs?

Wrong, hes a FF8CHAD

so he's a FF fan, just like I said

but he rightfully calls out other FFs as gaarbage

he also said that X is a masterpi...

also likes 15

nvm he's a retard.
he likes the worst nomura FF and glazes the worst modern FF.
And I thought frenchies could be redeemed.

The Japs are not impressed

BARRY FUCKING WON

you sound upset

There will always be kino JRPG like Crystal Project that revolutionize the genre while sticking to traditional JRPG roots. Who the fuck cares if AA and AAA try to reinvent the genre? It's far better than whatever the fuck they're currently doing with "JRPG" (but it's actually an action RPG btw!)

he didn't like FF15, he liked the roadtrip idea. Nobody *likes* FF15 except Barry

No one wants turn based RPGs anymo-ACK

KEK

That's not the point. The point was that it was not true that Gone Home had more reviews than the rest of jaypigs.

X had a better roadtrip. He actually liked that one, but somehow he mentioned XV.
I'll pirate E33... someday. Not giving these rat frauds a cent

So does it actually do anything better than your average JRPG?

Yes, everything

92%? How quaint.

animesloppa

Who cares?

Not saying I'm wrong though are you?

Nah. It's an average game at best.

Never heard of the game or the journo before.

An RPG is an RPG. The J and W have always been to make those made by the west and the nips distinct from one another. JRPG isn't a "genre"

it's only a jrpg if it was made in japan, this is just sparkling 4 niggas in a row

puts QTEs in your turn based

yeah apparently they fucking don't

generic normalfag game appeals to a wider audience

color me surprised

3*

You sound mad

Japan lost

thegamer, vice and other urinalists praising E33

hmmm....
HMMMMMMMMMM....
Not sure about this one, boss.

Publisher: Kepler Interactive

also published Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn

the game where the protagonist got raceswapped by Sweet baby Inc.

i'm noticing

Because they play like action rpgs and not like Jrpgs?
Obviously? We just established Japanese rpgs are a genre and not just a descriptor of country of origin
I assume you are the type of person to say that you can't eat Japanese food outside of Japan, or a taco you eat in Japan is Japanese food because you ate it there

Now scores don't matter untill you post Persona 5 metacritic score, then I will tell you about E33 user score, this time the reviews matter though.

mad is an insult

18+ board kiddo

Expedition 33 has unironically less black people in it than either the original FF7 and even more so than the FF7 remake

Old people should die

they already do
young people, too

Couldn't find anything in the game to actually complain about this time hm? I see

Why yes, I am angry.
From everything I've seen the game looks average at best.
I'll even say personally I think it looks bad. It's got an ugly/dim art style.
And not a single person has actually said anything that makes it look appealing in any way.

damn, that's brutal

We just established Japanese rpgs are a genre

No we didn't.

JRPG means RPG made in/made by Japan

Kingdom Hearts is JRPG
Pokemon Is JRPG
Mana Khemia is JRPG
Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicles is a JRPG
Xenoblade is a JRPG
Tales of is JRPG

Souls ARE JRPGs

the genre has NOTHING to do with the gameplay ignorant swine.

as a game enjoyer you are right about the art style holy fucking shit turn down the BRIGHT ASS VOLUMETRIC FOG I GET IT I CAN BARELY SEE ANYTHING

AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Faggot Fanatsybros....

So what does it actually do better than, say Final Fantasy X?

Better characters
Better music
Better voice acting
Better graphics
Better story
The only thing FFX has going for it is the combat

PC peasants are tasteless shitheads

what else is new?

the writing is more enticing and it's got an FF9 style ability learning system that makes for fun builds but I could really do without managing healing being an after thought because the hardest difficulty is designed around playing Bop It

It's actually written for adults

Are you retarded? Action JRPGS exist and turn based WRPGS exist. They're not fenres, they signify their origin

no silly anime tropes so yeah

And by the Japs, I mean one IGN review, which I suddenly considered valid now because it's convenient for my agenda.

Ok
So that means that ostensibly western rpgs made in Japan are Jrpgs and NOT western rpgs?
Like the wizardry games developed in the style of the wrpg versions but released as Japanese exclusives?
I'm sure there are plenty of other examples of Japanese developed ports of western rpgs that apparently magically become Jrpgs and stop being western rpgs?

Chrono trigger

Chrono trigger is a game you play on fucking emulator. not something you buy on steam.

outperforms

in terms of actual 'performance' the game is hastily made in UE5. so it runs and looks like shit. it's out performed by everything.
RE engine games, Indie games, from soft games. everything runs and looks better.

JRPG

4 niggas in a row

WRPG

2 gay niggas + 2 trans talking for 10 hours
hope this cured your down syndrome

Sure you can't get that granular
But nobody does in reality
4 niggas in a row is what a jrpg is to 99 percent of people. Simple as

HAHAHAHAHA Nice try jewish faggot

lmao no they're both made for ~17 year olds, this is nowhere near something like Disco Elysium

Was it produced in Japan? NOOOOOOOOOO IM GOING INSANE

I like how this game destroyed weaboo faggots and makes them cry. FF was never a good game ever. yellow monkeys from Japan can only make Resident Evil and nothing more, remember this, niggers.

Characters aren't anime tropes.

Anon Babble would go inactive

Based

you have autism

EX33 is a JRPG and I’m not gonna create 50 million faggot subgenre’s beccause you gay weebs wanna protect Japan.

im still not going to buy it. also, the chicks in it look ugly, idc what your retarded shill marketing says. so many people here are easily fooled into opening their wallets

are you going to start sperging out over what qualifies as an anime, too?

teenage girl with a tragic past

stuffy but secretly sensitive cool girl with a tragic past

genki bimbo with a tragic past

The Mascot Character

I will give you Verso alone

genki bimbo with a tragic past

the genki bimbo is most of the time the Osana and best girl.

The CEO of the company literally calls their game a JRPG lmao

No idc about that really
Nice answer to my question btw. Concession accepted

nta but you niggers are the ones sperging out
you literally want to say anything west of japan is western lmao
fucking retards

for real this shit is chuunibyou as hell I just beat Renoir in Old Lumiere and the fucker was flying up into the air and summoning giant faces to shoot beams at my parts lmao

You retard, I hate weebs, I merely pointed out facts to retards who want to insist 33 is an JRPG

it is and you have autism
hope your mom dies in her sleep tonight

FFX is better at all of these except graphics

how would you know since you haven't play e33?and when was the last time you played FFX? 20 years ago?

FFX did everything worse.
They even fucked up the main character by making him unlikable and annoying.
And that's not just me saying that. A huge element of the INTENDED story is everyone laughing at Zidane for being backward, naive and cringe.

None of these are acceptable answers.

better characters

I have literally only seen people making gooner posts over the girls and that one dude in an old school swimsuit. Just on that level none of the characters actually look that attractive to me, they all look average/frumpy.
I doubt any character in the game is as complex or interesting as Yuna.

better music

Gonna straight up say you're wrong here.

better voice acting

Is it "better" as in "less fun/memorable"?

better graphics

No.

better story

So far everything I've heard sounds extremely safe and generic.

the writing is more enticing

To who?

comparing it to FF9 when I asked how it was better than x

admitting that the game isn't very well designed after all

No.
You're just telling me what it *doesn't* have, which is not something that it does better.

No one has said anything to make this game sound appealing.

Disco Elysium

the game that has to censor its own language because they're too afraid to use grown up words

I'll be a grown up if I cuss

here have another example

stop seething so hard about a new game being better than 20yo FF games.
you sound like a retarded manchild.

How does it feel to be clinically retarded?

Butthurt seething weeb fag

No.
I am completely in the right to be angry here.
Expedition 33 shills are hyping the game beyond belief.
I look inside and it does nothing interesting.
That's false advertising, and it's getting more than a little annoying.

to someone that enjoys having a little bit more than a save the planet from the evil god plot. yes FFX is very good at pathos but so is E33, which has a narrative on top of it that actually makes you consider real world parallels. and nah say what you want about FF9 but things like the ability system, or even earlier, the job system in FF5 are the most fun Final Fantasy has been.

Wave the white flag Frenchie

All this tells me is that you didn't consider the real world parallels in FFX's plot.

It’s a product of a cultural expression, and that culture is of course, Japanese.

Partially true. It is a specific artistic vision, but JRPGs themselves a reaction to Western dungeon crawlers and fantasy culture. If you stare at the JRPG long enough, you start to see the throes of Western individualism, individual self-determination, and swashbuckling tropes from Western literature that the genre is based on. JRPGs are a synthesis of east and west.

There’s something unique to JRPG that only the Japanese get

No, this definitely isn't true. Toby Fox was able to tap into it for Undertale. People will call me a faggot for suggesting Undertale isn't dogshit, but the proof is in the pudding -- the Japanese gaming market LOVES everything about Undertale.

JRPGs aren't Ghost in the Shell. They aren't tied to a specific Japanese cultural marker. They are the interface of cultural exchange, which is why they survive to this day.

you are a retarded manchild.

and it's getting more than a little annoying.

then stfu and go outside a bit.

I thought it was a tactical rpg is it not

No.
No on all accounts.
How about shilling a good game?

Gonna completely disagree with you on that one.

Read my response again asshole. I'm disagreeing with this post. Unless you're saying you think there is something only Japan knows (not true as well since other East Asians have made fantastic JRPGs).

>There’s something unique to JRPG that only the Japanese get

No, this definitely isn't true

Gonna completely disagree with you on that one.
It's also an argument derailed by half the shill posts saying "Expediiton 33 doesn't have silly anime tropes"

Lil bro thinks ps2 era textures, static NPCs during dialogues, and characters going "eeeeh... Eeeeeehhhhh?? EEEEEEHHHHHHHHHH??!!" while the camera pans to the sky are rich expressions of Japan's cultural heritage

How about shilling a good game?

then make a thread or a you to retaeded to do even that?
or are you scared of being shit on because you only play weeb shit?

Missed a line when quoting you.

now this is a 10/10/10/10 am I right?

Gonna completely disagree with you on that one.

Again, Undertale and Omori are easy counterexamples.

that's rich coming from someone refusing to consider anything in E33. I don't even hate FFX, but how can you sit there with a straight face and say you are "looking inside and it does nothing interesting" when you're asking me about the writing as if you have no idea what's in the game? come on now. you're being stubborn because teenagers use this game to shit on your favorite games and don't want to give it a chance. I did too when the spam was worse.

Oh wow, crazy.
Not buying it lmao

higher reviews than poorly optimized Windows ports of FF titles

Wooooooooooow

Japs can’t compete with kino

If anything, it's more shocking, because poorly optimized ports tend to attract more (negative) reviews.

is this supposed to be impressive or something? final fantasy is fucking garbage poo poo

ps2 era textures, static NPCs during dialogues, and characters going "eeeeh... Eeeeeehhhhh?? EEEEEEHHHHHHHHHH??!!" while the camera pans to the sky are rich expressions of Japan's cultural heritage

This but unironically.
It's the same reason Expedition 33 should be called a French RPG. It's made by French people. Or are the assets made in India?

The only good thing FF ever contributed to gaming was inspiring this game.

No.

I do actually know what the story in E33 is about.
I'm asking you to explain what makes it interesting.

take big european events (ww1, ww2, french revolution etc...) as backdrop

add monsters or some strange power/tech shit

generic groupe of teenagers as chars

cliché bad guy that turns into a monster at the end

anime style

here you go sir, your very """unique""" jrpg that only japs can do

Yep.

"Jap" is a slur.

No matter how hard you want them to be, Undertale and Omori are not Japanese, nor do they feel Japanese.

Let's be real
Metaphor:Re Fantazio sucks. Its fatlus pandering to its western tumblr audience again.

Slurs only matter if they’re directed at people, Japs are insects at best and monsters at worst.

JRPG

Japanese Roleplaying Game

it doesn't HAVE to be made in Jap-ACCCKKK!!!!!!!

It feels like Europe and China are taking America and Japans place in the game industry.

If all Expedition 33 has in its heart is racism and seethe, why would I play it?

it is one of the only games in this style that has made me sympathize with the god/demiurge/whathaveyou style of main antagonists because it does a much better job at framing it in a human context. putting down Yu Yevon was a much, much easier decision

Korea too

JRPG is defined by review scores

It feels like shills are really trying to force that narrative, and, somewhat embarrassingly, desperately want the love and attention of people they insult by calling weebs.

You can’t be racist against Japs just like you can’t be racist against whites.

What causes people to use E33 to dunk specifically on Final Fantasy of all things? Final Fantasy hasn't been a turn-based game in 20 years, there really shouldn't even be a comparison being made.

Aren't most reviews incredibly racists towards japanese games?

I just dived into the area next to monoco station and killed all the fireice monsters. My levels jumped 50+ and I backtracked and killed all the hidden bosses. Thankfully everything was easy to parry.

NTA.

racism

Racism is gay commie word coined by Trotsky.

That's neither original nor interesting.

Communism is cool now grandpa

You are a racist.

I spent my entire day exploring that area too. Fuck whoever made it that big.

I’m not white so no.

Why is FF the face of jrpgs? I thought it would be Persona or Pokemon by now, or is it because ff is easy click baits?

Not only are you a racist, you reveal the racist colours of Expedition 33 shills.

JRPG is a genre insofar that it encapsulates the trends and stylistic choices that are distinct to RPGs made in Japan. You'd have a strong case for the game being a JRPG if the characters had designs that appealed to Japanese sensibilities. Neanderthal looking Gustave and WEG looking females are not appealing to Japanese, so the game is barred from being called a JRPG.

Bump

Whoever is shilling this game desperately wants it to be liked by the Final Fantasy fandom.

FF was that hot girl who used to trigger every other female so now she got fat so the other jealous girls are having the times of their lives
If ff becomes good again watch them suddenly larp as fans like happened with SH2R

what is it about e33 that makes its fans hate JRPGs and Japanese so much?

inb4 it's hecking better than Final fantasy

okay even if that's true, so does Skyrim, BG3, HF2... but fans of these games mind their own business and don't go around hating other things

I look inside

No, you didn't.

Expedition 33 shills

You don't know what the word shill means

it's getting more than a little annoying.

picrel

of course it feels that way to you, you read a plot synopsis and skipped everything the game was building towards. I'm not gonna sell you on the game, in fact, I don't even like it more than Look Outside, an RPG maker game that got released this year. but you are either trying too hard to hate on something out of an over emotional response to kids trolling or are just disingenuous.

Whatever Jap, don’t go committing any rapes or genocides on your way home.

Japs are white, like me, so It's not racist when I call them japs. I call my brother a lot worse.

This is cultural appropriation. Westerners cannot make a Japanese RPG. Come up with a different name for the tropes.

So is nigger, faggot.

Pokemon

Pokemon is a game for kids, is its own little world, and also, unironically invisible for western journos thanks to their weeb aesthetics

Persona

P5 was BIG, but, again, it was more a VN than anything and at least it was

But why ff

Opportunists, just like metaphor rode hard on FF shitposting to be relevant, it's an easy marketing, similar to gachafatties riding on GENSHIT WOULD NEVER BE AS BASED AS THIS CASINO (shin with wuwa), and last years being about ragebait.
And FF was unique in

"Realistic" models

One tale without having to play 400 hours from prequels

Turn based

Bonus point is short so even normies finish it and fap at the endings

And expedition 33 took a great advantage of that since 7R story is basically the same but cringier and 16 was just one character only and trapped on snoystation5.
But yeah when it comes to JRPGs people will always think on FF first, Persona at most for the zoomers and the waifufagging, the rest are pretty much irrelevant or invisible for journos

You are a racist, and everything you say has been delegitimized by the rules of your own game.

You are a shill.

I'm convinced it's the team itself, I remember the Pizza Tower developer acting like some saviour against some over the top avatarfagging "FFfags", it's an easy way to shill a game, which is a shame since e33 is good enough to need that shit and ff is now the center of controversy just like some anon said if you spam

Genshin killer

Genshin would never

You make your gacha less invisible

no it falseflaging ffags

See, it's racist when brownoids like (you) say it. It's OUR word.

dude im so joyless and humorless.. do i fit into le ebin Anon Babble culture yet?

I remember in some FF5 thread some schizo suddenly sperging against FF14 and conveniently shilling some YouTube channel with little views with click bait text to show how much ff14 is hated KEK, like holy shit, it became fucking autistic I DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT FF14 OR WHAT YOSHIDA EATS FOR DINNER

Add to that Nintendies still never recovered over ff7 so they use it to hide behind and shitpost other games they hate

I hold the philosophy that a good story should stand on its own merits even if it's "spoiled".
This is because in order to even entice someone to be interested in a story you have to tell them at least something about it.
In ancient Greek theater the chorus would come onstage and explain the entire plot of the play to the audience at the beginning, and the play itself stood or fell on the merits of its drama and production.

I'm not gonna sell you on the game

Well you're doing a good job at that.

This is cultural appropriation. Westerners cannot make a Japanese RPG

isn't it the other way round then? jrpgs were always just ripoffs of wizardry/ultima for consoles

Tabata probably paid for that

Japanese people didn't call their games "European RPGS"

FF was that hot girl who used to trigger every other female so now she got fat so the other jealous girls are having the times of their lives

If ff becomes good again watch them suddenly larp as fans like happened with SH2R

What the fuck did i read... Are all Japanese mexican lovers such cringe-worthy virgins with analogies about women they don't understand?

I don't "want" them to be anything. They just are. Japanese people even agree with me :)

and the play itself stood or fell on the merits of its drama and production.

the part your skipped? yeah. and this is where the disingenuous part comes into play, because you are pretending that E33 doesn't interest you after being spoiled but a very comparable game like FFX did whether or not it was spoiled for you. fuck off, I really hope you're just pretending and not really like this.

Nigger faggot, JRPGs only exist because nips appropriated the western game Dungeons and Dragons along with using western myths and folklore

Unironically expedition is the closest to a real FF after 20 years, weeb shit is not that good

No, I don't think Japanese people claim Omori and Undertale as their own.

Good. Now I'm sure to call it a JRPG since I'm racist.

Based, Japan made good games when it tried to appeal to the west from a distance
When they became pure weebshit, or when they started to mirror american politics, they became shit

he closest to a real FF after 20 years

That is completely false and you have never played a FF game in your life if you think that is the case.

FFX was released 24 years ago so he's right

or is it because ff is easy click baits?

Yeah I think it's this. Final Fantasy hasn't been turn based in 20 years, and there are some people who played Final Fantasy VII as a kid, they didn't like Final Fantasy VIII or IX, and they only kinda liked X because it had updated graphics, and yet for some reason they still just never moved on.

Like, E33 is literally Persona 5 with Sekiro parries and QTEs like Sea of Stars or the Mario RPG games... why isn't it getting compared to any of those? It's nothing like Final Fantasy. It's not even like old Final Fantasy.

Parryslop, just turn based.

sekiro parries are spammable ackshually

Comparing it to Final Fantasy games on Steam reviews is fucking retarded. It's a game that LOOKS like a generic western game. If it had an artstyle similar to Japanese RPGs, 90% of the people who played it wouldn't have even bothered.

Sea of Stars is self-paroding indie slop
Persona is nip obssession with highschool slop
Sekiro is another genre

E33 feels like a JRPG of the 90s or early 2000s. Even the idea of leaving in a doomed expedition reminds me a lot of the feel of FFX.

No. You don't understand.
A good story will still be interesting to me even if its spoiled. I'll go "huh, well that was spoiled for me but it still sounds interesting enough to see it for myself".
Expedition 33 fails to interest me from the get-go.
Greek theater wasn't about justifying bad stories with well done drama and pathos, it was about telling good stories well.

JRPG doesn't exist
Japanese doesn't even like the term JRPG
You was the one who called it that

It's racist both against the Japanese and the French to call Expedition 33 a JRPG.

Giving a shit about what foreigners think

ngmi

in fact, I don't even like it more than Look Outside, an RPG maker game that got released this year

Based. I played Look Outside right before E33, and I actually think they might be about equal. Look Outside botches the middle of the game, but it stick the landing for the ending better than any game in recent memory. E33 nails Act I, it does pretty alright in Act II, but then it completely botches Act III, so then end up about even in my book. I still think about how satisfying Look Outside's ending was, and I also still think about how disappointed I was with E33's Act III reveal.

That's antisemitic.

so FFX the game with the same themes of people holding onto something that was lost is a bad story, then? was the implication that you liked it in the first place just a little giggle on your end?

I also still think about how disappointed I was with E33's Act III reveal.

Holy filtered

Stop being in denial lmao

No.
I find Final Fantasy X to be a decent and imaginative story told decently well.
Everything about Expedition 33's story sounds either generic or outright bad, so I'm not interested in giving it the time of day.

Final Fantasy was THAT good others can just cope, metaphor was already fucking forgotten while Expedition 33 is organic hype

still a joke, just one that's uncanny enough to invoke disgust because they're taking it seriously

I think E33 being $40 instead of $60 + being made by a new group has caused people to give it a higher score than they normally would

Example in another market:

RX 9070 XT @ $750 MSRP = who the fuck would buy this when the 5070 Ti is the same price and has better features?

RX 9070 XT @ $600 MSRP = holy shit AMD is so fucking back NVIDIAjeets on suicide watch

It is not a JRPG. Was not produced in Japan and none of the creatives were Japanese.

Holy filtered

Nah, bro, I've just seen that trick before, and I've never liked it. For what it's worth, it does the shitty twist well, but it's still a shitty twist. Literally my exact thoughts were "ugh... I thought it was going to be better than that"

You wanna play a game with a good ending, you play Look Outside. Not E33.
There's no bullshit in Look Outside. The thing you are expecting to be the ending is what the ending is. It's actually even better than that.

Dismissed before playing

I mean, it's your own loss. I wasn't too excited about it, I played other games before it, I completly ignored all spoilers for nearly a month, and I was still blown away by the game

Expedition 33 is organic hype

stay mad FF7Rlet

Quit shilling your RPG Maker slop

Kys tendie

told decently well

so the part you skipped this time, again

Why bring up rebirth at all when you seem to think it's better than the original too? You have no credibility.

while Expedition 33 is organic hype

I was saying that at first, but we are now at the point where if you look at look at Anon Babble's catalogue at *any* point in time, on *any* day, 10 of the threads will be E33 threads. That's not organic. It's not *that* good. Like, it's a decent "J"RPG, but the ending sucks and not matter how good you might think it is, there is no reason to always have 10 threads for it up.

Fatlusnigger is gigamad

Those are shitposters trying to make mods to ban Expedition 33 from Anon Babble

I'm choosy about the games I play.
If I play a game and feel it's a waste of time, then it's a loss of my time.
I've weighed the options and I've lost less by avoiding Expedition 33.
Telling me "it's my loss" for not playing this game marks you with a 60% chance of being an actual paid shill.

this it obvious ffnigers tryin to make the game look bad

I wasn't the guy who originally brought it up, and (You) replied to me, little one.

Act III's twist sucks, and it's been done before. It's never a good twist, but E33 does a decent job at it regardless. Look Outside has the most satisfying ending of any game that I have played that comes to mind any time in recent memory. I cannot remember the last time I have been so completely satisfied with an ending. Look Outside is how you stick the landing for the ending of a video game. Not E33.

I do not waste my time with bad stories even if they are "done well".
Get it through your thick fucking skull.

ehh apples to oranges, Look Outside is top tier cosmic horror in that the reveal is its entirely an accident and you influence the very thing that may had influenced your existence in the first place. but E33 did a better job at undytail for me at making me wonder how much the fiction mattered to me and what art does to the people making and consuming it. all around a pretty good year for rpgs.

so sad you can't claim FOTM any more

you lost

Half the Expedition 33 shill posts have been outright racist.

you waste everyone's time with your bad posts though
you've got tons to spare

ffnigers

Again, why is it always the FF bogeyman? E33 is always used to shitpost against FF even though FF hasn't been turn based in 20 years, and even when FF was turn based it was nothing like E33. Most of the FF fanbase seems to be on the "fuck FF" train, so why would they hate this game?

Unless you mean the people who only like Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy VII Remake, but those are just Final Fantasy House schizos, those aren't "ffnigers"

Nintentroons always do that shit everytime some non Nintendo game gets enough attention, for real even despite how popular Resident evil games are you had them crying about SHILLS just when a popular re game released
Other indie games were also popular so the tendie mod banned it, and you already have some schizo crying about SHILL in Fantasy Life threads, of course they will never cry SHILL in all those pokemon and fire emblem threads

being an actual paid shill.

I fucking wish I'd be paid to post about vydia online. It's just a good vydia.
I also dismissed Reverse Collapse last year for looking like chink slop and was one of the best SRPGs I've played.

but it's the same story being told in FFX, which is by your definition bad, except for how it's done well- sorry, 'told decently well'?

E33 is a JRPG and my source is some literal who journalist website

uh?

boo hoo chink

Point to a single one of my posts that was bad.

my source is the gameplay and themes

Mostly tendies recruiting posting

Hello fellow new popular game wouldn't you want to join me against this ip that makes me seethe 25 years later?

Before FF7R/16 were a thing it used to be Capcom or even Persona 5
As you said, ff is a normie ip, and most of their fans are boomers who moved on or roasties still stuck in the Tifa VS Aerith shit.
Ever noticed how conveniently popular games fandoms can't be friends because there is always some shitposter trying to stir some drama?
These are the same faggots who pretend to be PCfags bros when convenient

ehh apples to oranges

"J"RPG to "J"RPG.

the reveal is its entirely an accident and you influence the very thing that may had influenced your existence in the first place

I don't consider this to be "the reveal". Did you even play the game? How, after finishing Look Outside, can you possibly think that this is "the reveal"?

but E33 did a better job at undytail

I don't know what this means.

all around a pretty good year for rpgs.

Yeah, that is true. E33 is still a good game even if I dislike this specific twist in everything that has ever done it before.

so sad you can't claim FOTM any more

you lost

Bro, not everything belongs to your Anon Babble drama narrative. I don't give a shit how popular anything is, I just play video games and then go on Anon Babble to talk about them sometimes.

No, I don't think they are the same story.

Then it should really be called a DnD ripoff.

Oh yeah the cloud avatarfagging never shitposting in fire emblem or Xenoblade threads lmao

take the L lil gup

Number faggottry is killing this board.
Like, why not just play Fortnite or CoD if all they care is numbers?

Fotm

Yeah people enjoy things and move on

70% chance

when you were talking about the ending I assumed you meant the final conversations with the Figure 8 and The Visitor, why everything happened and how The Visitor hasn't experienced anything like humanity before, that this was even the first time it had thoughts because it talks to you. and I mean that I did not feel guilty about the Genocide ending in Undertale, whereas what happened to the painting people made me think about what I was gonna do.

no u

seethe seethe seethe, seethey seethey seethe

you shouldn't feign maturity if this all you're going to post

Yes, it means Japanese RPG, and they are Japanese RPG's

why everything happened and how The Visitor hasn't experienced anything like humanity before, that this was even the first time it had thoughts because it talks to you

I mean, sure, but I still do not really consider this "the reveal". It both is and isn't, I guess. If that's all that had happened, I probably would only have been adequately satisfied to an overall "meh" reception, but instead it exceeded my expectations to the point that I still can't believe how good the ending was.

whereas what happened to the painting people made me think about what I was gonna do.

Oh. Honestly, I don't know how you'd even care after Act III. By the time Act III happens, I care more about all the things that the game doesn't even try to discuss than what's actually happening in the game. There's a correct ending, and I didn't feel bad for choosing it.

Because that anon likely hates both games

I don't think

I accept your admission of retardation as defeat

since we have the retarded term metroidvania to refer to upgrade key hunt side scrollers why havent we figured out a term for dragon quest likes? just call clair obscure dragon fantasy, or final quest like

oh no don't get me wrong the game isn't all just about the ending, maybe reveal was the wrong word. everything about the mutants being relatable and endearing despite the circumstances is what made the confrontation with The Visitor, something depicted as so unknowable, somewhat knowable. and while I agree Verso is the best choice after everything was pretty much destroyed, I certainly related to the feeling of not wanting to let it go(which yeah the game kinda hammers that idea in a little too much). plenty of people did too which is how we get daily Maelle threads still.

it's called 4 niggas in a row

i know you retards would flip your shit if a jrpg actually tried something different and didn't just call it a day with qte's

if the likes of FF7 or 8 is an RPG then Doom or GTA series are RPGs lmao

Come on square enix

FF17 turn based

DO IT YOU FUCKS

maybe reveal was the wrong word

I really don't know how you finish Look Outside and you think the explanation is "the reveal". Like I said, I thought the ending was cool and the explanation and the fight were cool with the biblically accurate angel shit going on, but if that's all the game was I probably would have been like "oh cool"... but then it kept going, and that's why the ending is so satisfying. It answers everything and then gives you even more. All of the endings are pure kino.

ironic you post the last remnant because that game also has qte promts for critical strikes.

they do a basic FFX turn based game

it flops

Its less on the gameplay and more on story/themes, plus more importantly bloated budget. They've been putting out turn based games pretty regularly for years.

less on the gameplay

Even more incentive for Cumenix to go back

Like what? DQ11 was almost a decade ago

I think true JRPG enjoyers want something different like your pic or something like Resonance of Fate. That's not what appeals to the masses though. Mario RPG, but edgy and French is what appeals to the masses. And now that E33 is successful, you can expect copycat games in the future. I'm not going to say that parryslop turn-based wasn't fun, because it was, but I don't want to be stuck in parryslop turn-based JRPG hell for the next decade either. I want progress in the genre. E33 made some progress, let's keep making more progress.

i'm aware of the qte's, but unlike most other games that "revitalize the genre" (for normalfags), it doesn't end there
oh lord knows it doesn't

I just think the conversations with the Fated Four and Visitor are what sell the 2 "true" endings in particular, all the individual endings have great resolutions but that's the cherry on top of the whole thing. well, 8 cherries I guess

They've put out remakes of DQ3 and soon 1+2, Saga Frontier, Romancing Saga remake, Octo Path 2 was just two years ago. Brought back Live a Live out of nowhere. People who want classic FF should like Octo Path. No bullshit crystal shit, focused stories on characters, turn based with its own ideas.

Im a chink and I hate japs.

The best french game is a Japanese role playing game

Even when they win they lose

I just think the conversations with the Fated Four and Visitor are what sell the 2 "true" endings in particular

Obviously, but your posts focused so much on the conversation with the Astronomers ("the reveal") and didn't even mention the mindfuck that is the Visitor so I just kinda get the impression you didn't play it. A focus on "why" not "what". The explanation is peanuts compared to the Visitor. Doubly so because I was expecting the "why", not necessarily the "what".

Pixel vomit anime slop, fuck off.

This, add to that multiplatform day one and an original story, nothing about remakes. Normies love to participate on games releases

anime slop

So its just FF then.

They also released Fantasian. People don't want turn based games, they want turn based FF games
Romancing saga 2 remake wasn't pixel either

FF is like resident evil, it has an aesthetic that pleases globally, not weebs only

If that was the case the games would be bigger hits. Rebirth checks alot of the boxes, but its so anime coded its a tough sell. Its one of the reasons the FF16 demo worked but the full game people noticed it just devolves into the same shit with Ultima. Its a primary reason E33 gets its dick sucked alot, the characters and themes are more grounded and even when it gets overly fantastical its still just about coping with loss/grief.

I dunno man I liked the zooming out if you accidentally get The Visitor to beam its own perception of itself into your brain, the art and writing were very good, but the unfathomable size of it all was something I had already understood just from those old ass charts on how much bigger other stars are from our own sun. not discounting it either, putting that same idea in the context of a higher being works very well in the genre.

Rebirth is

Part 2 of a trilogy

Known story

It's not a new game people can play together day one.

I still can't believe the did a "Remake"... but it's not really a Remake!
...but it's not any different either... here, have some time jannies

They wanted the time jannies and the botched endings to be something people speculate about online, but no one likes it, everyone already knows what the story is, so there's nothing to speculate about. They should have just made it completely different.

The story is pretty stupid when you think about things like what the fuck was Aline doing for atleast 50 years after Verso stopped being with her. 50 years crying alone is just stupid. Nobody does that.

That's because japanese boomers are too coward. Either go full schizo or not.

It was also to bait Aerith fans. I even believe their intention was to bring Aerith back but Tifa became so fucking popular they may just stick with Tifa. Even polls showed majority of people choosing Tifa and someone posted female streamers choosing Tifa as well kek

Lightning in a bottle. A game that only comes around once a decade.

it's going to be a poorly done Baldur's Gate 3 rip-off directed by Naoki Yoshida
he hates challenging the players in any way so the game will play itself

than every mainline final fantasy

Like that's a big achievement. FF is a trash franchise that has been limping along for the last 25 years relying almost entirely on incels who only play the games for the characters. They may as well just go full incel and make it a beach volleyball and gacha franchise.

fuck off weeb

Try to explain how without sounding like a complete asshat

Incel

Femcel post lmao

jrpgs are usually made for women so i don't normally play them however this is made by westerners... so...

is this one also made for women? meaning a lot of crying, wailing women, personal realtionships and whining or does it encapsulate masculine themes like bravery, heroism, duty and sacrifice

Yeah, well, people like jrpgs because they like to see cute and cool characters. Are you some roastie?

FF

Challenging

E33 isn't either

It's that anon who always wants to talk about yoship. He has some gay obsession around that guy

Its a Japonisme / Japonesque RPG (JRPG).

This was a trend from around 1800-1900 where the artsy types of Paris (architects, painters, etc) were all weebs and semi obsessed with Japanese art / fashion. Even Van Gogh and Monet.

Coincidentally, Expedition 33 happens in 1905.

Basically the thing even being a JRPG, combined with the time period / place / tech level of the setting is itself an art history reference.

E33 is a JRPG by nature of ripping off Persona.
The debate should be around which game in the Persona series it stole notes from the most.

Maybe Final Fantasy is just trash now.

known

As popular as FF7 was, you see remakes like RE2/4 or Silent Hill 2 get a new audience and its a known story. Hell Rebirth does more changes than any of those. It really its just too anime-coded, you show someone a trailer with Yuffie's mannerisms and they know if they will enjoy the game or not from that single thing.

Persona is a visual novel anime style
It's why you only see comparisons with FF because it looks realistic and it has the epic journey

Re2/4 as well as SH2R were

One game

PC day one

Release any of these on ps5 or epic only and divide in 3 games. Not even re4r could make normies wait a fucking decade to see how the story ends

Recency bias

You are pretending that people finish video games in the first place, its more of an obstacle getting the initial sale on enjoyment/value from the purchase. Last I checked, not even 30% of people have the achievement for beating E33 on Steam. Games with over 50% are incredibly rare, especially for popular games. BG3 isn't even at 25%, Elden Ring's most finished ending was Ranni with 28%.

People are barely buying games with the intention of seeing the story to the end. They want an experience they will enjoy even if they get bored and quit.

Somehow this is more pretentious than interesting, even if it's true.
And I'm not entirely sure it's true.

so YS is a WRPG?
lol kys you fromdrone faggot, souls will always be a JRPG

That never happened tough

thinly veiled anti-Japan racism lmao. Normies are so spiteful about Japan it's insane.

then Dragon Quest is a WRPG

And re2/4/SH2R are still short games, at most they are 15 hours long
Again, you can't just divide a known story into 3 fucking 60 hours long game, it's the reason falcom is trying to attract new fans with trails remake, Sega changed Yakuza guy mc, or Xenoblade 3 sold less

Shit game

changed

and immediately backtracked cause Ichiban is definitely the 2nd string in IW. The two big successes in the franchise are 0 and 7, and both are departures to get away from the story non-sense of 3-5 as much as possible. With all that new fanbase, the Majima Pirate game seems to have done significantly worse than IW or 7.

Xenoblade shit just leans into my "no matter what, FF is generally too anime-coded to be a big success" viewpoint. The biggest shot at getting normies was tricking them with a demo and all the Western media comparisons and they fucked it up with shit pacing and Ultima.

There's also a bunch of random niche anime that only exists outside of Japan in France because it got a dub

Japan is basically completely and utterly irrelevant to normies. They don't give at fuck about any of that weebshit. It may as well not even exist for them.

What you call "normies" are actually reformed weebs. They're still far from normies but they're just not Japan supremacists like you anymore.

They hated him because he told them the truth

this slop is a Turd Based RPG

b-b-but Muh JRPG!!!

JRPG and WRPG are not genres and will never be, this whole stupid label shit was started by assblasted westoid jornos jealous of the success and popularity of RPG made in Japan during the 00's
back in the PS1 era no one looked at FF8 or Suikoden an said ''hey i like this JRPG!!!''

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japonisme

Brother

I like how it shows the audiences. Weebs keep to themselves and talk about their games, while Expedition 33 fans are obnoxious asshats and the main thing they try do is talking down jrpgs and insulting Japanese who don't particularly care about it.

weebs are subhumans but the average normie AKA the casual tranime watcher and vidya player does care about Japan

Don't be such a seething retard weeb.

The term JRPG came about simply because the design of a Japanese RPG differed so greatly to western RPG that they felt it appropriate to differentiate the genres. It was not an insult. It was an appropriate thing to do same as differentiating Silent Hill from Zelda is appropriate even though both could just be called "third person adventure game".

And yes, people absolutely used the term "JRPG" in the 90s in the west.

You may as well be seething over the terms "cartoon" and "anime" co-existing.

Weebs literally spend all day fighting between themselves

This is worth saying.
It's entirely possible that one day France will one day make a masterpiece videogame that is proudly French, which the French are proud to call French, and which is recognized the world over as being a great videogame.
That game might be a turn based RPG. That game might borrow elements from Japanese style and Japanese culture.

I do not think Expedition 33 is that game, I think it's being incredibly overblown. Looks about par for the course for what you'd expect from a AAA RPG, and the discourse around the game is desperate.
But I welcome good games wherever they come from

Don't "bro" me

No he doesn't. He cares about Nintendo. He cares about Resident Evil. He cares about Fromslop. That's it. Doesn't care about Japan. He only likes things from Japan that aren't weebshit. He sees weebshit and it instantly goes on the ignore list. It doesn't go on the seethe list. Only reformed weebs seethe over Japan. Normal people just don't care.

You could try and hide your seething a little

Yes? What would you call them?

Why is every Expedition thread just consists of people seething about Final Fantasy?
Is the game not good enough to stand on its own?

Unironically this. Glad I got to experience this game at this time. Best JRPG experience of the past 20 years. Its also really sad how far Final Fantasy and Square have fallen since the 2000s.

Was it produced in Japan? No?

Are your pizzas being cooked in Italy? No? They're not pizzas. Oh wait, they still are.

y-y-your are Le weeb

stop projecting weeb troon, only you subhumans are obsessed with this fake term

the design of a Japanese RPG differed so greatly to western RPG that they felt it appropriate to differentiate the genres

a made up term by jorno cucks, the same jorno cuck you weeb trannies hate them now for demonizing your tranime slop
there is already genres to differntiate RPG's, there action RPG, tactical/strategy RPG, turn based RPG, real time strategy RPG.... and so on

differentiating Silent Hill from Zelda is appropriate even though both could just be called "third person adventure game".

what a low IQ retarded thing to say
SH is a ''survival horror'' and Zelda is ''action RPG''
notice how there is no J-horror genre? because horror fans are mongloid subhuman tranime fags like (you) to fall for meme terms like JRPG

They hated for years being called JRPGs because they invented that term so they could separate Western media and Japanese media, for them they were always regular RPGs, and now since Japan is cool and trendy they call it a JRPG proudly, same thing happens with Anime, now everything is Anime because Japan is cool and not the worst thing ever.

He cares about Nintendo

manchildren are not the average norm

Why?
I am actually angry, why hide it?
Why do you think "lol you are mad" has any relevance to the validity of what I am saying?

Easy marketing, sad because expedition shouldn't need that shit

"Japanese Role Play Game" is not an RPG made in Japan.

While ff has too many weeb movements I don't think dividing the game in 3 parts helped. Though I think you are right that 16 got the right aesthetics but it auto boycotted itself thanks to ps5 and no party

SH is a ''survival horror''

Now this is funny coming from someone who claimed JRPG is not a real genre because it was invented by journalists.

"Survival horror" was invented by Capcom's marketing department as an attempt to trick people into believing RE wasn't just a blatant rip off of Alone in the Dark which it was. Survival horror is definitely not a real genre.

For their children. Not themselves.

nobody and i repeat nobody calls dark souls a jrpg you absolute cretin and 99% of the time, people dont even say wrpg because its implied that RPG just means "not JRPG"

expedition shouldn't need that shit

It seems like Expedition 33, the game itself, not just the discourse surrounding it, is entirely founded on seething about Final Fantasy.

I know Exp 33 players never touched a Tales of (Before the Nu-Slop), Trails of (series) or Persona 3-5 game.

Nah, Expedition IS good

is entirely founded on seething about Final Fantasy.

That was the case with metaphor. You will see threads about Maelle, Lune and threads about the Marche debate again
Most metaphor threads were just muh ff this muh metacritic, like 80% of their threads were just this shit

steam reviews are now a subject of discussion, great